Out to you . Out to you . Firstly, if this is true, it out to you . Firstly, if this is true. It says out to you . Firstly, if this is true, it says israel out to you . Firstly, if this is true, it says israel is true, it says israel is attacking the isfahan Nuclear Facility. Three reactors there that form the concrete for the fourth reactor. Isfahan really is, to a great extent, the centre of the Iranian Nuclear programme, both in terms of training, research and fact, some would say the development of the Nuclear Capability so it is a likely site that israel would hit because again, the greatest fear that the Israelis Haveis Greatest Fear that the israelis have is not continued missiles today but a Nuclear Capability tomorrow. We today but a Nuclear Capability tomorrow today but a Nuclear Capability tomorrow. We have heard, of course, several tomorrow. We have heard, of course, several times tomorrow. We have heard, of course, severaltimes not l course, several times not only from us President Joe Biden but several World Leaders telling israel to make sure to mediate any response to the retaliation, if there is one, do not take it too far. What an attack on an area of iran but has nuclearfacilities fall into that category . Would that be a major escalation in this tit for tat conflict . In this titfortat conflict . In the this tit for tat conflict . In the eyes of the israelis and minds of the israelis, yes, it would be an escalation but how are they going to respond . Its clear that last week, iran is shot enough of its long range missiles that they do not effectively have a second strike capability anymore. So, if there was a response that comes out of iran with the capabilities that we are aware of, it would have to be done by proxies. They dont have the drones, nor do they have the missiles to make a significant second strike on israel. Second strike on israel. What did Ou Second Strike on israel. What did you make second strike on israel. What did you make of second strike on israel. What did you make of the second strike on israel. What did you make of the timing. Second strike on israel. What| did you make of the timing of this reported Missile Strike . Is this only coming a few days, what . Five days after iran sent the barrage into israel. Is it sooner than you may have expected . Sooner than you may have meted . Sooner than you may have expected . Its actually later that i would expected . Its actually later that i would have expected . Its actually later that i would have expected. J expected . Its actually laterl that i would have expected. I would have expected the israelis to hit hard and hit early and hit fast. I understand there were some political deliberations that help this up a bit but if israel is trying to reset deterrence and send a strong message to iran, this is actually a little bit later than i would have expected them to respond. The than i would have expected them to remind to respond. The us of course, as we said. To respond. The us of course, as we said, very to respond. The us of course, as we said, very vocal to respond. The us of course, as we said, very vocal in as we said, very vocal in saying, you know, israel should be careful here but also saying it would not participate in any sort of israeli retaliatory action against iran. Doesnt look to you here that israel went it alone . Does it look. It could very well be the case but we will not know until we start seeing the bomb damage assessment, until we get more information. I think its a little premature to be making that determination. I would be surprised if the we did at least provide some intelligence, particularly from our satellites or overhead, but i want to wait until we see more and hear more before i make that determination. Irate more and hear more before i make that determination. We are heafina make that determination. We are hearing now make that determination. We are hearing now from make that determination. We are hearing now from the make that determination. We are hearing now from the md hearing now from the Afd Newsagency and i want to bring you this line here, reaching out to the Israeli Military and officials there saying, we do not have comment at this time. We do know that when iran launched its attacks on israel, these were very much telegraphed in advance. He heard may be hours ahead of time that iran planned on launching some sort of strike on israel. Is it noteworthy at all to you that we havent really heard any confirmation yet from israel one way or the other about what has been taking place . Taking place . Yes, but for different taking place . Yes, but for different reasons. Taking place . Yes, but for different reasons. Many i taking place . Yes, but for different reasons. Many people say one of the reasons that the iranians had to respond to the killing of the irgc officials inside of syria was because, for the first time in a long time, the israelis started announcing their activities and when you start announcing that to the real world, it kind of inspires and almost requires a response on the part of your adversary. This notion of no comment seems to go back into the long standing policy of the iranians to admit nothing, to accept nothing and to explain nothing, which is im glad to see they have gone back to that if they are doing that because in many ways, the lack of information, the lack of bluster actually comes down but of all comes down the situation a bit. I of all comes down the situation a bit. ,. , , of all comes down the situation a bit. ,. ,. , a bit. I want to come back to something a bit. I want to come back to something you a bit. I want to come back to something you said a bit. I want to come back to something you said earlier i a bit. I want to come back to l something you said earlier and believe this is israeli Missile Strike took place is near isfahan calms down. What more do we know about that area, and you mentioned this could be a target that would involve some sort of Nuclear Facility in iran . Facility in iran . Certainly. Anyone facility in iran . Certainly. Anyone can facility in iran . Certainly. Anyone can get facility in iran . Certainly. Anyone can get on facility in iran . Certainly. Anyone can get on the i facility in iran . Certainly. Anyone can get on the internet and look at isfahan. Look at wikipedia and you will see isfahan is a long standing nuclear target. A long standing area of Nuclear Concern for both the israelis, primarily, the iea, iea in particular. I think its generally accepted isfahan is sort of ground zero, no pun intended, of the Iranian Nuclear programme. Nuclear programme. Mark kimmitt, nuclear programme. Mark kimmitt, i nuclear programme. Mark kimmitt, i want nuclear programme. Mark kimmitt, i want you nuclear programme. Mark kimmitt, i want you to nuclear programme. Mark. Kimmitt, i want you to stay right there, if you dont mind. We will bring in michael singh, the washington institute, joining us here. Thanks for joining us here. Thanks for joining us. Ringing you up to date on what we know, we are hearing an israeli missile has hit iran, coming from cbs news, our partner, and we are trying to bring as many details to our viewers as we can but in terms of what we know right now, whats your reaction to what seeing tonight . Seeing tonight . Well, if in fact these seeing tonight . Well, if in fact these initial seeing tonight . Well, if in fact these initial details i seeing tonight . Well, if in| fact these initial details are true, it looks like it would be a fairly limited israeli retaliatory strike. And that i think is what we largely expected. The notion that israel was not going to respond to a direct attack on its territory from iran was always far fetched but i think if, in fact, this is the response, so far it looks like a Response Thatis far it looks like a response that is meant to both deter but also send a signal that is De Escalatory, by not being too widespread, not being too splashy and israeli officials so far been relatively quiet. And i think the Ideal Scenario is this strike has happened, bubbly was much more effective, frankly, than the iranians strikes were but probably. But if it is sufficiently small in scale, they can frankly deny that it ever happened and close this particular chapter of the israel iran confrontation. Mark, bouncing it over to you in the scale of this attack and we only know what we know so far but as it appears now, does it appear limited to you . Would this be something that may be designed to limit the damage, get in a Counter Attack and then call it even, essentially . Well, what mike is probably saying is at their peril, hes probably one of the foremost experts in dc on this but there are other reports coming in that they are irgc elements hit in syria and baghdad, so i think mike is right. If there is one attack into iran proper was Hossein Amir Abdollahian and there is some plausible deniability, and some attacks against irgc in syria and iraq, what they do is a matter of course, mike is right was isfahan. Its limited, focused and in many ways De Escalatory. Its interesting to know now that we are hearing again from some sources and again we will be working to confirm this but this is coming from reuters, saying there was pre notification to the United States from the israelis, thats coming from an unnamed source. Michael singh, weve been talking so much about the role of the us here is a very close ally of israel. Joe biden very vocally warning, Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahu about a forceful response, wanting to make sure that israel showed restraint. Does it surprise you at all then, there may be some sort of pre warning happened between israel and the us . Ida. Warning happened between israel and the us . And the us . No, not surprising at all. Israel and the us . No, not surprising at all. Israel and and the us . No, not surprising at all. Israel and the and the us . No, not surprising at all. Israel and the united at all. Israel and the United States at all. Israel and the United States may sometimes disagree on this states may sometimes disagree on this but there is very close Co Ordination militarily between the two and while israel between the two and while israei is between the two and while israel is unlikely to ask the us for israel is unlikely to ask the us for permission or perhaps even us for permission or perhaps even to us for permission or perhaps even to give it full details, israel even to give it full details, israel would want to notify the united israel would want to notify the United States because the united United States because the United States because the United States has assets in the region United States has assets in the region and air base in qatar and region and air base in qatar and other region and air base in qatar and other places like kuwait and other places like kuwait and the and other places like kuwait and the uae and elsewhere. And so, any and the uae and elsewhere. And so, any israeli action against iran so, any israeli action against iran potentially brings risk to the us iran potentially brings risk to the us interests and us forces and so the us interests and us forces and so israel, as an ally of the and so israel, as an ally of the us, and so israel, as an ally of the us, will want to do that. The the us, will want to do that. The risk the us, will want to do that. The risk that israel takes in doing the risk that israel takes in doing this is because they know the us doing this is because they know the us was not keen to see this kind the us was not keen to see this kind of the us was not keen to see this kind of strike. As always a risk kind of strike. As always a risk that kind of strike. As always a risk that us officials will leak risk that us officials will leak or risk that us officials will leak or speak to the media and its interesting that so far, the its interesting that so far, the only its interesting that so far, the only confirmation we have of these the only confirmation we have of these attacks seems to be from of these attacks seems to be from us of these attacks seems to be from us officials and so hopefully, fully the Biden Administration will keep american officials relatively quiet american officials relatively quiet about this. If israeli officials quiet about this. If israeli officials are also trying to be quite officials are also trying to be quite in officials are also trying to be quite in an effort to remain sort quite in an effort to remain sort of quite in an effort to remain sort of De Escalatory. Quite in an effort to remain sort of deescalatory. Does it stand out sort of deescalatory. Does it stand out to sort of deescalatory. Does it stand out to give sort of deescalatory. Does it stand out to give and sort of deescalatory. Does | it stand out to give and again, we heard from iran on saturday, right before the strikes happened and there was plenty of telegraphing going on and there is a difference, a stark contrast. We have not yet heard from any israeli officials to confirm whether or not this was indeed 100 israels doing. Yeah, no, ithink indeed 100 israels doing. Yeah, no, i think that again is potentially a signal of De Escalation that the israelis are not De Escalation that the israelis are not rubbing the iranianss face are not rubbing the iranianss face in are not rubbing the iranianss face in this. The iranians will et face in this. The iranians will get the face in this. The iranians will get the message. Remember in 2007 get the message. Remember in 2007 when israel destroyed a syrian 2007 when israel destroyed a Syrian Nuclear reactor in syria. Syrian Nuclear Reactor in syria, there was no commentary from syria, there was no commentary from israeli officials. Syrian officials from israeli officials. Syrian officials essentially denied it happened. There was no further exchange happened. There was no further exchange of fires between the two exchange of fires between the two this exchange of fires between the two. This is in keeping with some two. This is in keeping with some patterns in the region, i would some patterns in the region, i would say some patterns in the region, i would say some patterns in the region, i would sa. ~. ,. ,. , would say. Again, a reminder of the breaking would say. Again, a reminder of the Breaking News2 would say. Again, a reminder of the Breaking News2 us the Breaking News 2 us officials coming cbs news, our us partner, and israeli missile has hit iran. Reports from within iran say they have been explosions heard in the centre of the country. We also know that several flights has been suspended within iran and we are also getting reports now, this is from the afd news agency, saying that israels military is saying sirens have Soundedin Military is saying sirens have sounded in northern israel apf. Mark kimmitt, what is the potential here now that we could see some sort of retaliation . We know has below, a proxy and ally of iran, is there across the northern from israel has below. Its israel has below. Its always israel has below. Its always been israel has below. Its always been the israel has below. It� s always been the wildcard. While israel does not have the capability for its second striker a significant second striker a significant second strike because of what they used up in their attack last saturday hezbollah. The wildcard had always been hezbollah, they have the range the iranians dont have and a quantity of insoles of the iranians dont have and that before their targeting is probably better than the iranians as well so if the iranians as well so if the iranians are pulling hezbollah into this fight, i think it brings a different dimension to what is going on here. If this isjust an what is going on here. If this isjustan iranian what is going on here. If this isjust an iranian retaliation, mike is right. Probably not a lot to worry about. But if the iranians decide to ramp it up ljy iranians decide to ramp it up by bringing in their hezbollah colleagues, its a different game. Colleagues, its a different name. ~ ~. Colleagues, its a different name. �. ,. , colleagues, its a different name. , colleagues, its a different name. ~ ~. ,. ,. ,~ game. Mike, what do you take about the game. Mike, what do you take about the potential game. Mike, what do you take about the potential for about the potential for retaliation here . Could it be from iran . Could it be from one of the many other proxies that are there in the region . I think we are seeing initially is that think we are seeing initially is that potentially, there was a relatively limited strike in iran a relatively limited strike in iran and a relatively limited strike in iran and then maybe also some israeli iran and then maybe also some israeli strikes on iranian interests in syria and iraq and ive interests in syria and iraq and ive seen interests in syria and iraq and ive seen those reports as well but mark ive seen those reports as well but mark is right that hezbollah, in lebanon and also some hezbollah, in lebanon and also some iranians sources in syria, are more some iranians sources in syria, are more capable of quickly responding to israel. I will say, responding to israel. I will say, though, iwould responding to israel. I wil