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Girl has been injured so far and that light damage was caused to a Military Base but we do not have details of which base. The idf� s Spokesman Says the 10 Year Old Girl who was injured by schrapnel from Falling Debris is being treated by paramedics. Lets take a look at the worlds response to the attack the United Nations secretary general Antonio Guterres released a Statement Saying i strongly condemn the serious escalation represented by the large scale attack launched on israel by the Islamic Republic of iran this evening. I call for an immediate cessation of these hostilities. I am deeply alarmed about the very real danger of a devastating region wide escalation. I urge all parties to exercise maximum restraint to avoid action that could lead to Major Military confrontations on multiple fronts in the middle east. That from the chief of United Nations. In the us, President Biden posted this picture on x, formerly twitter, saying that he just met with his National Security team for an update on irans attacks against israel. He says, our commitment to israels security against threats from iran and its proxies is ironclad. We go live to james landale, diplomatic correspondent. Whats the latest that you are hearing . Whats the latest that you are hearin . ~ �. , hearing . Were hearing here the israeli authorities hearing . Were hearing here the israeli authorities that hearing . Were hearing here the israeli authorities that the israeli authorities that the number of drones and missiles that were fired from iran towards israel tonight was in the number of about 200 in all. Were also hearing that the vast were intercepted and most of those that were intercepted outside of israels borders which represents, if thats true, a substantive success in the allied attempt to try and neutralise as many of these missiles and drones as possible outside. At the moment indications are that quite a few of them were shot down over jordanian territory. But we are also hearing that some did get through and the israelis are saying that there is a light damage to one Military Airbase in the south of israel. Thats where we are at the moment here injerusalem it is quiet in the middle of the night. We had sirens early in the night with iron dome rockets, air defence rockets fired into the night sky and there were explosions that we have not had more of that we have not had more of that for a few hours. figs that we have not had more of that for a few hours. That for a few hours. As you mentioned, that for a few hours. As you mentioned, it that for a few hours. As you mentioned, it still that for a few hours. As you mentioned, it still middle i that for a few hours. As you | mentioned, it still middle of the night and were getting all the night and were getting all the details but do you have a sense where you are in jerusalem that that might be the end of the attacks are now or are there warnings and preparations you are hearing about the could be another wave of attacks or more drones for missiles fired by iran . We dont know missiles fired by iran . We dont know yet missiles fired by iran . We dont know yet if missiles fired by iran . Dont know yet if this is over. We dont know whether or not the last missiles have reached or attempted to reach their target. We at the Israeli Military at the moment are not wanting everybody to stand by and get to their shelters if they possibly can. It is possible that there is at least a pause but we dont know that definitively. We know that some of israels allies in the region have attempted to join in this attack, there were some reports of missiles being fired from the houthi rebels, the protein Running Group that control large parts of yemen protein Running Group. There are limited reports of irans proxies, part of what they call the axis of resistance, above all the hezbollah militia, armed group in lebanon, they have not so far as we can tell joined this in running attack tonight, so to that extent that is the dog that has not barked, but as far as we know right now, there is at least i think a pause. Now, there is at least i think a pause a pause. James landale reporting a pause. James landale reporting in a pause. James landale reporting in jerusalem l a pause. James landale l reporting in jerusalem for a pause. James landale reporting in jerusalem for us, Reporting Injerusalem for us, our diplomatic correspondence. Thank you. With me is christina ruffini, former State Department correspondent. I want to talk about what we and set the scene. Maybe 200 drones and missiles fired by iran towards israel. What you make of what had been telegraphed many days by iran about the response on the way it took place tonight. It about the response on the way it took place tonight. It took place tonight. It was very slowmoving, it took place tonight. It was l very slowmoving, deliberate very slow moving, deliberate response. There is a reason that those screens were used. These drones we have seen a lot in ukraine being used by the russians, they are not sophisticated, they dont have an on board guidance system, you set them, put on a gps target and they go and if nothing stops them they were hurt when you tell them to. They are not sophisticated but can be effective but are also very slow, had a long way to go on as you saw on social media people could look in the sky and hear the distinct buzzing i knew they were coming which meant israel and its allies they were coming and that was probably deliberate. You they were coming and that was probably deliberate. Probably deliberate. You think that what the probably deliberate. You think that what the deliberate probably deliberate. You think that what the deliberate move by iran . It that what the deliberate move b iran . ,. ,. ,. , by iran . It similar to what the us did in by iran . It similar to what the us did in february by iran . It similar to what the us did in february when by iran . It similar to what the us did in february when he i us did in february when he wrote in proxies has full i had a Facility Injordan and had american forces. The us had to respond, or politics are domestic, the us has to account with population when americans are killed or hurt so we heard from american officials leading up from american officials leading up to that that we would hit iran under after the proxies and do this and reporters kept saying when will you do it . They said there is a weather but it was something similar that they were telegraphing to arrive so they could get most likely personnel out of the way so this did not escalate so the us could strike back without going further again. Thats probably what we saw from iran today, they had to fight back today, they had to fight back to the israelis and the strike on syria weather took up a general. But iran doesnt really want to get a fight with United States so they responded in a way that they said iran said after the attack today the matter can be deemed concluded. The problem is the israeli spokesperson then sat israel is indecisive. Spokesperson then sat israel is indecisive indecisive. Moving back to the war of words indecisive. Moving back to the war of words as indecisive. Moving back to the war of words as weve indecisive. Moving back to the war of words as weve seen i war of words as weve seen before tonight. You mentioned you think that the us response, we saw of course tonightjets in the air and various bits of Military Equipment moved into the region stop to what extent do you think that might have played a role in lessening the impact or lessening the actual response from iran . I impact or lessening the actual response from iran . Response from iran . I think there are response from iran . I think there are no response from iran . I think there are no spots response from iran . I think there are no spots when i response from iran . I think| there are no spots when you response from iran . I think there are no spots when you get through the iron dome and what isnt and i think it knows exactly what the playbook will be if it releases this kind of attack against a us ally. This was probably expected and i think some damage might have, there is noise a chance one or two can get there and thats what we were all watching for, it only takes one to hit the Population Centre to escalate this to something none of us want to come will be in the region for but this was very predictable even by those of us who have covered it, its a tit for tat proportional response that could in Theory Finish tonight but now it looks like israel is saying it will strike back. The other thing to look at it as it is very rare for iran to directly strike israel, usually see this through a proxies and even the rhetorically iranian authorities have said we are done and this is it, we are satisfied, this is concluded, that does not mean we wont see other more dangerous attacks from iranian proxies throughout the region from yemen to lebanon to gaza. The region from yemen to lebanon to gaza. Hearing as you said some lebanon to gaza. Hearing as you said some words lebanon to gaza. Hearing as you said some words from lebanon to gaza. Hearing as you said some words from israeli said some words from israeli officials that could be another response. What do you anticipate from israel, how will they go about their discussions within the wall cabinet, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, what will be the only agenda under anthony calculus about whether to respond or if indeed they do, in what way . To respond or if indeed they do, in what way . To respond or if indeed they do, in what way . One thing i won the last do, in what way . One thing i won the last few do, in what way . One thing i won the last few months do, in what way . One thing i won the last few months as l do, in what way . One thing i won the last few months as i should not try to predict what Benjamin Netanyahu or the Israeli Government will do or how they respond because there is a lot of factors that go into that and its not always the perspectives or sometimes different even among us officials and israeli officials as there is a lot of diplomatic back and forth especially between Antony Blinken and the Secretary Of State to get israel to hold back and allow more humanitarian aid and that emotions are so fraught that it is, you are operating on a different set of almost facts when going into these debates i dont want to went about. The wall cabinet has already been empowering netanyahu and other officials to make the decision on how they want to reciprocate for this attack and you have to wonder netanyahu is incredibly unpopular right now, even among the constituents who voted for him, many conservative israelis blame him for the Security Lapse on 7 october and many hostage families think he is not enough their loved ones back and he has this indictment looming over his head that goes into effect when he is no in office so he does benefit by staying in office and there is not likely to be an election while this conflict is going on so not to be the most cynical person in the world but those of the factors at play so you have to think all of that is being taken into consideration in addition to Israeli Security geopolitics and what israeli leaders in the country and peoples persecuting interests. Christina ruffini, stay where you are. Joining me live is Karim Sadjadpour. He isa he is a Senior Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and weve been talking a lot about the israeli Point Of View. I want to get into iran now and how tonights events are maybe playing out within iran and irans leadership. Irans leadership. May i distinguish irans leadership. Mayl distinguish between irans leadership. May i| distinguish between the irans leadership. May i distinguish between the regime of iran and the population of iran because this is the situation in which you have a government whose ideological prerogatives and revolutionary ideology i would say are not aligned with the National Interests of iran since 1979. Iran has been fighting this cold and a hot war with israel and United States. But there is not a natural geopolitical and mentally between iran and israel. This is really the prerogative of irans revolutionary leaders, as christine mentioned. All is in the past, iran had attacked israel, the first time they have lodged attacks from iranian soil against israel and we will see in a few hours whether the attacks were made to actually do real damage in israel or whether they were meant to be merely symbolic as a deterrent. But i can tell you that iran has a population which is not interested in fighting war with israel, not interested in being in a state of conflict with United States and we saw last year the Large Population of iran took to the streets in protest of the government and the women life freedom movement, people in iran see the primary obstacle between them and a Better Future to be their own government, not the government of israel or the United States. Interesting to hear you say that because there was the impression of course that there were some pressure on the Iranian Regime to respond here. Where do you think the pressure comes from and was that part of the calculus when it comes to, as you said, this being an attacks carried out from iran itself and not from one of its various proxies in the region . To some extent, yes, they have to save face to their people, to save face to their people, to members of their own regime, but i would say more importantly they have to save face for the people in the region and there arab proxies. Since 7 october, 30,000 palestinians have been killed and the hope of hamas and maybe some palestinians was that iran was going to directly involve itself and it has not. Irans proxies also have not really been able to defend the palestinians in any way, so i think that if they were to simply have sat on their hands while some of the top generals were killed by israel, the supreme leader, that could have well rejected weakness and invited even more israeli strikes, but i dont think that they are doing this to appease their own population because as i mentioned, this is an iranian population which is really tired of constant state of conflict and this revolutionary ideology which is really what the country nothing more than a misery. To what extent do you think there might be to what extent do you think there might be making preparation by israel . We heard some rumbling coming out of leaders and israel say that they could be a response to this attack, is that something you think iran might be preparing for or already prepared for to see some sort of response after this attack . There is hoping that they can throw this punch and release a statement through the United Nations are saying, after this, we would like to put this to bed but thats not their decision, obviously, thats the government of israel and iran has to be prepared that israel is going to retaliate and respond, i think arana will try to pass signals to the United States in the hopes that United States in the hopes that United States will exercise some restraint of israel but obviously, iran has to be prepared that is real, several years ago have something called the israel was not going to respond to your Runs Technicals in the region, whether that be 11 on, lab anon. And i think ii on, lab anon. And i think as christie mentioned, israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu is under enormous internal scrutiny and he made calculate for domestic political experience even though the guys have been a great success, taken the fight to iran but actually, at home. You mentioned the various different arms of that octopus, that hezbollah has been exchanging rockets across the border with israel, we have seen the houthis Attacking Shipping in the straight, what comes next there . Will this embolden any ally or proxy of iran to go ahead and launch their own attacks on israel . You know, both the proxies, i think the one that is in so early faces of its revolutionary ideology are the houthi in yemen so, i wouldnt be surprised to see the houthis launching strikes against israel or israeli assets that have been done in the past. You know, lebanese, has blah is also in a precarious situation with its Population Stop has paul r. They have been decimated economically and has blah would actually like to avoid the outcome with whats happened in gaza. But again, we are now, we entered uncharted waters, they had not ever attacked israel from its own soil and it remains to be seen what damage the strikes will do. Well know a lot more by tomorrow morning. And based on that, whether or not israel will choose to respond. Mil will choose to respond. All ri. Ht, will choose to respond. All right. Lets will choose to respond. All right, lets turn back to here in

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