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hello, i'm rajini vaidyanathan. we start here in the uk. defence secretary grant shapps said it would be "irresponsible" to carry on pumping money into the h52 high—speed rail line if costs had spiralled and there was a "perfectly legitimate question" about its sequencing. mr shapps, the uk's former transport secretary, told the bbc�*s victoria derbyshire that costs had increased significantly, citing inflation as having been part of that. he stressed that hs2 was not the "be all and end all" for northern transport projects. on hsz, we do have to respond to the budgets _ on hsz, we do have to respond to the budgets that have been hit not only by coronavirus but by the war in ukraine — by coronavirus but by the war in ukraine i— by coronavirus but by the war in ukraine. ithink by coronavirus but by the war in ukraine. i think any responsible government looks at that and says, does this_ government looks at that and says, does this still stuck up for what the country requires in terms of where _ the country requires in terms of where it— the country requires in terms of where it is— the country requires in terms of where it is sending resources, and the sequencing of that. it where it is sending resources, and the sequencing of that.— the sequencing of that. it doesn't sound good. _ the sequencing of that. it doesn't sound good, then. _ the shadow chief secretary to the treasury darrenjones says labour won't make a decision about hs2 without all of the facts available to them. we are supportive of h52 - being built, but we are responding to rumours and leaks. and look, victoria, this is a really important infrastructure project. i what i say on your showi matters because we, the labour party, hope to be| in government next year. we are not going to make decisions on a national infrastructure - project that involves tens - of billions of pounds without all of the information being available. staying with politics, social care and paternity leave are high on the agenda at the liberal democrats party conference in bournemouth. live now to political correspondent peter saull. good morning from a very blustery bournemouth, on england's south coast, where it's quite an important day for the lib dems, decision day, you could say, because this often and they will approve a pre—manifesto document which will give us a really clear sense of the kind of offering they will make to voters at the general election, which is due at some point in the next 12 months. the key issue they want to talk about is the nhs, particularly improving access to gp services, but plenty of other items in there too. i'm joined by leila moran, the lib dem foreign affairs spokesperson. in charge of our relationship with our closest neighbours just over the water in the eu. lots of people wearing badges and t—shirts but it is not really being discussed in the conference — why? we really being discussed in the conference - why?— really being discussed in the conference - why? we have a set oli on conference - why? we have a set policy on this _ conference - why? we have a set policy on this that _ conference - why? we have a set policy on this that brings - conference - why? we have a set policy on this that brings us - conference - why? we have a set policy on this that brings us back| policy on this that brings us back to the heart of europe, which is where we believe we belong. it absolutely is one of the five strands. i will introduce that pre—manifesto document later on and we make the point that actually if we make the point that actually if we are going to repair our relationship with europe, that is key to getting the economy going again because this will be an election fought on the economy. people are really struggling with the cost of living crisis, they can't see their gp, there just isn't enough going on right now that the conservatives are managing to help people, and we want a fair deal for people. that's what we are selling at this conference. it is people. that's what we are selling at this conference.— at this conference. it is the -a 's at this conference. it is the party's policy _ at this conference. it is the party's policy that - at this conference. it is the party's policy that rejoining at this conference. it is the i party's policy that rejoining is at this conference. it is the - party's policy that rejoining is not on the agenda at the moment because like you said you expected the party policy to move sorry met —— to move — what did you mean by that? irate - what did you mean by that? we ractice — what did you mean by that? - practice what we preach, so that won't change. what i mean is that we have to recognise the relationship with the eu has been fundamentally severed, and it was the conservative party that did that. the eu don't want to talk to us about that kind of thing right now, and we have to start from scratch, so we suggest a four step plan, the first being rejoining erasmus plus, the scheme that allows students to go back and forth. these other kinds of concrete —— these are the kinds of concrete things we need to start with. -- these are the kinds of concrete things we need to start with. there has been talk _ things we need to start with. there has been talk about _ things we need to start with. there has been talk about personal - things we need to start with. there has been talk about personal care in the home and parental pay this weekend. you announced a tax policy tripling the amount that social media firms will have to pay. how much will that raise?— much will that raise? more importantly. _ much will that raise? more importantly, what - much will that raise? more importantly, what it - much will that raise? more importantly, what it is - much will that raise? more. importantly, what it is going much will that raise? more - importantly, what it is going to do is to provide for our qualified mental health professional in every state school in the country. everyone who knows a young person knows we have a mental health crisis among our young people, and we think the social media giants have a part to play in helping to make that better, so we would triple what they pay on their current revenues, from 2% to 6%. , , ., , ., 296 to 6%. there seems to be an internal row _ 296 to 696. there seems to be an internal row brewing _ 296 to 696. there seems to be an internal row brewing on - 296 to 696. there seems to be an| internal row brewing on housing, 296 to 696. there seems to be an - internal row brewing on housing, the plan to scrap top—down housing targets and saying we should focus on building social housing. a lot of members, younger members, pushing for the reinstatement of targets. it is difficult for young people to get on the housing ladder. is there not a danger that by changing this approach you push younger voters towards the labour party? i approach you push younger voters towards the labour party?- towards the labour party? i have hue towards the labour party? i have huge sympathy — towards the labour party? i have huge sympathy for _ towards the labour party? i have huge sympathy for what - towards the labour party? i have huge sympathy for what the - towards the labour party? i have i huge sympathy for what the young liberals and others are advocating. they are desperate to get on the housing ladder, they don't see the end in sight, councils up and down the country tend to build more, they build more social houses, houses young people could afford to live in. we are on the same page in terms of what we want to achieve, and there is a discussion about how to achieve it. the way our councils do it is the best way, i genuinely believe. the main speaker on the conference floor is the party's deputy leader, who will speak on all those health issues i was talking about at the top of the piece. there will be a question _ about at the top of the piece. there will be a question and _ about at the top of the piece. there will be a question and answer- will be a question and answer session with the leader, sir ed davey, fresh from the interview he did with the bbc this morning. this afternoon i am told he will be braving the elements, despite the windy weather, so stay tuned for that later on. you are braving the elements as well there. we will hear from you throughout the day and we will have more coverage on the lib dems conference on the bbc news website. it is one of the world's longest—running conflicts. the fate of ethnic armenians in disputed nagorno—karabakh is hanging in the balance as their leaders say most will likely leave their historic homeland now controlled by azerbaijan. at least 200 more ethnic armenians are reported to have died this week as the military swept further into the enclave. the region is internationally recognised as part of azerbaijan but large parts of it have been controlled by ethnic armenians for three decades. some aid has now reached the enclave, but food, medicine and fuel are all in short supply. tens of thousands of armenians have sought refuge in the main city, stepanakert, many of them gathering at the airport. some aid has reached the enclave, but food, medicine and fuel are all in short supply. in new york, azerbaijan's foreign minister told the un general assembly that baku was determined to, quote, "reintegrate" karabakh armenians as equal citizens. but his armenian counterpart demanded the un establish a mission in the region to prevent further killings of ethnic armenians. the bbc�*s olga ivshina is one of the first journalists to have reached the region since this week's hostilities began. she sent us this report. this is the first time journalists have been allowed into karabakh since the start of recent hostilities. we are currently in a key point in the area. it sits on the mountain which overlooks several strategic roads and towns. the conflict between azerbaijan and armenia has taken tens of thousands of lives, so the question everyone is asking now — will the latest ceasefire hold? azerbaijan military has told us they are currently in control of a city down there, which karabakh armenians call stepanakert and consider their capital, so it's very important. however, azerbaijan has provided no details, no evidence, and this is as close as we were allowed to go. the biggest question now is what happens to karabakh armenians who have lived here for several decades? an official has just told me that they will only target armed rebels, and they are ready to provide security guarantees for the civilians. we are currently conducting mine cleaning. we also established camps, temporary camps. in these camps, we can provide food, water, electricity and also heating, up to 1000 people in each camp. however, there was a lot of mistrust on both sides. the destiny of these people is now de facto in azeri hands. 0lga ivshina, bbc news. earlier the bbc spoke with jason straziuso, spokesperson for the international committee of the red cross. he brought us up to speed on the humanitarian work they are doing in the area. the last couple of days, we sent in several convoys, 70 tonnes of humanitarian goods. that was mostly wheat flour, but also yeast and some sunflower oil. obviously, the supplies can be used to make bread and other bakery items. that's an indication of how dire the situation is. not enough food, not enough medical supplies. that convoy that we sent in today did drop off some medical supplies but it also dropped off body bags. not so pleasant to think about, but an important aspect of this is dignified management of the dead. so it's a well rounded humanitarian effort from our teams the last couple of days. so over the last 72 hours, let's say, there has been an increase in humanitarian access. i think the sides understand that we are a neutral organisation, that we don't take sides. this helps facilitate the activity, the work that we carry out. we have close contact with both sides and we wouldn't be able to move through without permission and we don't seek to move through without permission. so those open channels of communication are in place all the time and allow us to carry out these trips. one of our approaches is to work with other nations that might be allied or partners with the governments involved here and remind the governments involved that they do have a humanitarian duty, that medical supplies must be allowed through, the food must be allowed through, and that anyone who's wounded or sick must be allowed to receive medical care. so those kind of conversations do take place with other nations that might be involved in this region. a second ship with ukrainian wheat reached turkey, despite russia's withdrawal from the un—backed grain deal. the bulk carrier, laden with more than 17,000 tonnes of wheat, left the port city of chornomorsk in ukraine on friday, bound for egypt. it comes as ukraine is testing a new sea route avoiding international waters and using those controlled by nato members bulgaria and romania. a first ship with 3,000 tonnes of wheat has safely arrived to istanbul last week. dr hanna shelest is from the transatlantic defense and security programme at the center for european policy analysis. earlier, she told me that the recent shipment could be a signal that ukrainian grain exports may be possible without russia's cooperation. we know that in addition to these two ships, there are three other ships currently coming to ukraine. we are expecting them today or tomorrow. but at the same time, that is a clear demonstration, that is only... how do i say? that is the exception to the rule. nobody is guaranteed security on the ship. and even that most of the route is happening not in neutral waters, but in the nato member states terrotorial waters of bulgaria and romania. but for several hours ships are coming into ukrainian territorial waters. and they need to be stationed at ukrainian ports. and here, the russian federation is continuing to launch attacks against these ports. that is part of the decision but clear demonstration that russia cannot control the black sea and cannot put their rule for the voyages on commercial sea. are we likely to see more ships on this route carrying more grain? i assume that we will see not only grain, but maybe even other goods. if you remember the first two ships before the grain ship, they were stocked with metallurgical material. that had been in 0desa port since february 2022. for more than a year there have been waiting for permission to leave the port. however, others already passed to the east and it was secured. more would be willing to use this route. we also need to accompany it with the additional security guarantee for this ship, probably with the defence of the nato countries or with controls of the ships over there, to guarantee the russian federation will not be provoking the commercial fleet for the freedom of navigation. and just briefly, this all comes as ukraine is targeting the home of russia's black sea fleet. what are your thoughts on how that fits into the picture? the russian black sea fleet is stationed in the occupied crimea. it is the duty of the russian navy. the key story... definitely there are myths about the city. one of the myths is that crimea is that not that much protective. and maybe not that much defended as russians stated before. for years we heard it was the second most protected city in the russian federation after moscow. the reality is that it is not. that will allow ukraine to push russian soldiers out from the black sea coast from those operations they have been conducting against the ukrainian shore. let's turn to the war in ukraine. russian foreign minister sergey lavrov says the united states and kyiv�*s other allies are "directly at war" with moscow. speaking at the un general assembly on saturday, lavrov also blamed the collapse of the black sea grain deal on ukraine. he further criticised kyiv�*s peace plan as not "feasible" or "realistic". translation: the collective west has a calling card and it's long been - to reject the principle of equality and their total inability to reach agreement. being used to looking down at the rest of the world, americans and europeans make all sorts of promises and they take on commitments, written ones and legally binding ones, and then theyjust don't fulfil them. as president putin pointed out, the west is one that is truly an empire of lies. russia, like many countries, knows about this first—hand. also at the un general assembly, haiti's prime minister, ariel henry, has called for urgent un action to bring stability to his country. he says the security situation has led to a new humanitarian crisis, displacing thousands of people. mr henry said kidnappings for ransom, arson, massacres, sexual violence, and people—trafficking are all on the rise since violent gangs took control. he told the general assembly that the security council must act to authorise an international force to help haiti's overstretched police and military subdue rampant armed gangs. the country's stability has deteriorated, as its largest economic driver, agricultural production, has slowed due to natural disasters like the devastating earthquake in 2010. this has led to illnesses such as cholera spreading on a mass scale. meanwhile, political corruption has made it nearly impossible for the prime minister to manage the chaos. the un says more than 2000 people have been killed in haiti since the start of this year. now, it's time for a look at today's sport with chetan. let's start in andalucia in spain, where the decisive day at golf�*s solheim cup is under way. the scores tied on eight points each after that dramatic fightback by europe on day two. here's the picture as it stands. only half of sunday's 12 matches are under way so far, but already usa are up in a couple of those, leona maguire though, up in her match for europe. europe needs six more points if they are to win the solheim cup. it will be a third consecutive time for them if they can do it. the early stages. we'll keep you right across that as the day unfolds here on bbc news and the bbc sport website. max verstappen is on the verge of a third world title as he cruised to his 13th victory of the year with ease at the japanese grand prix. verstappen's victory helped his team clinch the constructor�*s title and he'll be world champion for the third straight year if he wins in qatar in a couple of weeks. joining verstappen on the podium were lando norris and oscar piastri. their mclarens were second and third. there are five matches in the premier league today, with liverpool, chelsea and newcastle amongst those playing. the game of the day is at arsenal, where tottenham are the visitors in the first north london derby of the season. both sides have made strong starts so confidence is high, with both managers knowing the significance of a victory: winning always helps and maintains the spirit in the right place. you know, this game doesn't need any motivation. it's the most special game of the season. this derby is a special moment for all of us and we need to focus on that. you understand what it means to supporters — you understand what it means to supporters of both clubs, and the significance in terms of the general mood _ significance in terms of the general mood around the place. all these kind of— mood around the place. all these kind of things, you know, add significance to the fixture, and also _ significance to the fixture, and also the — significance to the fixture, and also the fact that they are a very good _ also the fact that they are a very good football side. they had an outstanding season last year, they have strengthened this year. they are a _ have strengthened this year. they are a group that for the most part has grown — are a group that for the most part has grown together, and you can see that there _ has grown together, and you can see that there is — has grown together, and you can see that there is a real belief within them — two games in the rugby world cup on sunday, with scotland returning after a rest week to take on tonga in pool b, whilst theres a huge game in pool c where wales can qualify for the quarter finals with victory over an australia side who stand on the brink of elimination. yeah, the pressure very much is on australia, and that's a young team as well. it's an exciting squad but has shown some naivety and haven't been the most convincing in the tournament. so the pressure really is on them. they lose this and i are pretty much out of the world cup. for wales, pretty much out of the world cup. forwales, if pretty much out of the world cup. for wales, if they win this, they are guaranteed through to the quarterfinals, so equally still an amount of pressure on wales. not the most convincing performances. they have had winds, bonus point wins, getting four tries in each game, but there have certainly been moments where they haven't been clinical, there have been a lot of errors and a high penalty count, but it is a very settled team that he has now selected for this game, so they should be going for the win confidently. and it was meant to be the night that britains joe joyce got his career back on track — but instead, his hopes of challenging to become the heavyweight champion of the world are all but over. joyce was beaten by china's zhilei zhang in their rematch in london on saturday night — zhang knocking joyce out in just the third round — meaning he retains the wbo interim title and stays as the mandatory challenger to heavyweight champion oleksandr usyk. just disappointed, like, he is a good fighter, so credit to him. he goes on to the next stage. i have to rebuild and come back. that's boxing. that's the sport that we are in, and you can't always win, but you know, plenty of learning to do. he is a tough fighter. maybe it was a risk to far. i could probably have gone another route or whatever, but mistakes happen. i paid the price but i can rebuild and come back, go a different route and get back into title contention. brute a different route and get back into title contention.— a different route and get back into title contention. we will have more for ou title contention. we will have more for you later. _ title contention. we will have more for you later, but _ title contention. we will have more for you later, but back— title contention. we will have more for you later, but back to _ title contention. we will have more for you later, but back to you - title contention. we will have more for you later, but back to you for. for you later, but back to you for now. later today a capsule is expected to return from space and land in the american state of utah. the osiris—rex capsule contains rocks and dust from the surface of an asteroid called bennu, which scientists say could give important clues about how the earth was formed. the bbc science correspondent rebecca morelle is in utah where the capsule is expected to return to earth. after an epicjourney through the solar system, nasa's capsule, carrying a precious sample of an asteroid, is set for a perilous return to earth. it will speed through the atmosphere at more than 27,000 miles an hour, heating up to a scorching 3000 degrees, before parachutes open to bring it safely down to the ground. for the osiris—rex mission team, it's a nerve—racking wait. the problem we have with this capsule is there's no instrumentation. we release it from the spacecraft four hours before it intersects with the atmosphere. and we have some optical telescopes and things that can track and give us some confirmation that it released properly. but otherwise, we're just waiting until that atmospheric entry point. the capsule is heading for a vast wilderness, the dugway military base in utah. the landing date has been set since the mission launched seven years ago. so after travelling billions of miles through space, the capsule is going to land somewhere over here in the utah desert, come rain or shine. military meteorologists are monitoring the weather right up to the last moment. copy range control... tracking the winds is vital for the recovery team waiting for the capsule. confirming balloon. is away at this time. by launching weather balloons before the object comes down, _ we can get an idea of what the upper level winds are doing and how- that is going to steer the capsule. and the more accurate the data gets, i the more precisely they can predict. where it's going to land at. the team is well aware that things can go wrong. it looks like we have a no chute, sir. 20 years ago, in this same patch of desert, another sample return mission called genesis came to a catastrophic end after the capsule's parachutes fail to open. negative. copy. receive a visual. impact at 5855. we are very confident that we will not have a genesis type event with this recovery. when that happened, an investigation was done. we understand the error that occurred, which was some gravity switches were installed upside down, and there have been many double checks on the gravity switches on this capsule to make sure they're installed the correct side up. so we actually have no worries about it coming in and operating properly. all of this effort is to solve the mystery of what's asteroid bennu is made of. this is vital because bennu tops the list of nasa's most hazardous space rocks. so studying its makeup could help us to stop it, if we ever need to. but it could also reveal more about our origins. it's a perfectly preserved relic from the dawn of the solar system. this was the moment the sample was collected in a five—second smash and grab, before it was safely stowed in the capsule for its return to earth. the rock and dust will be divided up between scientists around the world, including the team at london's natural history museum. we will be getting a small vial�*s worth, which will be made up of thousands of individual, tiny little grains, which we will analyse one by one. we're all unbelievably excited. we've thought about it, we've talked about it, we've written papers about it, we've dreamt about what it's going to be, and finally, we're actually going to see it and find out what it really is. the hope is this small but invaluable sample will shed light on the story of our solar system, and answer some of the biggest questions we have. rebecca morelle, bbc news, utah. the week ahead looks very unsettled with heavy rain and gayle force winds at times. so far today, we have seen showery outbreaks of rain. fairly fragmented, as you can see from the earlier rainfall, but low pressure is still driving the weather story at the moment. plenty of isobars on the trot, so plenty of wet weather to come for the remainder of the afternoon, but not for all of us. central and southern parts of england and wales will continue to see the cloud break up sunshine come through, while a pulse of rain move steadily north by the end of the afternoon, sitting across the scottish borders, northern ireland in particular. but with the sunshine, we could see temperatures topping 20 or 21 celsius. in the evening, another heavy pulse of rain pushing in from the south—west, across wales, into the lake district, and into western scotland. weather warnings in force here. gusty winds accompanying the heaviest rain, on exposed coasts, 50-60 heaviest rain, on exposed coasts, 50—60 mph. some pretty miserable conditions to close out sunday. that frontal system will ease away, though showers continue into the far north—west, with plenty of crowd delete mcleod and winds coming from the south—west, overnight lows of 12-15 c. the south—west, overnight lows of 12—15 c. tomorrow, the winds will ease, still blustery but nowhere nearas ease, still blustery but nowhere near as strong. sunny spells for many of us, some scattered showers, particularly through scotland, and temperatures will respond, some peaking at 22 celsius, way above where we should have them at this time of year. more rain to come in the forecast, as you can see, on tuesday, and western areas will bear the brunt of this rain. the potential for some localised flooding as we go through the week ahead. the rain will tend to focus across much of scotland and north—west england, central and southern england and wales dry and pleasantly warm. through the middle of the week, not only more wet weather but also the risk of some severe gales. we will need to keep an eye on this low pressure. it might be that little bit further north or south, but one thing is for certain — the middle part of the week looks pretty unsettled, with heavy rain and strong winds. better by friday. this is bbc news. the headlines. the defence secretary grant shapps has told the bbc it would be "crazy" not to reconsider how the hs2 high—speed rail line can proceed — given rising costs and inflation in the uk. he said the government was looking at whether the project can still work for the country. the fate of ethnic armenians in disputed nagorno—karabakh is hanging in the balance as their leaders say most will likely leave their historic homeland now controlled by azerbaijan. armenia has urged an international mission to monitor the rights of civilians in the enclave. and nasa awaits the return of a space capsule carrying dust samples from what's been described as the most dangerous rock in the solar system. scientists hope the samples could reveal new information

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