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these are the scenes across france at a very somber, a very sad silent moment. a minute of silence across this country. look at these images now coming to you live from france from paris, where french people standing as one, to say we will pay tribute to those who died yesterday in the attack. and now spontaneously, the people who were holding hands have now -- now they are clapping. something completely uncalled for. something that has risen from the crowd. it was here overnight that tens of thousands gathered to say no we will not accept any attacks on our french satirical magazine, on freedom of expression. no to attacks on the values and principles. let's listen to the applause. [ applause ] >> reporter: and there you have it from france a moment of silence, and now a moment of clapping. a moment -- there's nothing to cheer in france. but they're, of course just sort of standing up standing up for what they believe in as french citizens. people from all walks of life coming here to this historic square standing in squares and streets and places across this country. standing in a moment to show their sadness, their solidarity. and what is the time not just of a massive security operation, a moment of national mourning a day of national mourning but a defining moment for all of france. people here are describing this as their own 9/11. a reference of course to the september 11th attacks in the united states. saying this was an attack on the french republic. even one man said to me last night right here in this square an attack on french humor, an attack on the principles of liberty, and equality and brotherhood that has been a rallying cry here in france for centuries. and at this moment hundreds of french police officers are engaged in a massive manhunt for the two main suspects in this case. cherif and said kouachi, two men of algerian ancestry, both in their 30s. in the last half-hour, french media are reporting that the two men have been spotted north of france spotted in a car, a gray car wearing masks. the license plate's masked as well carrying guns as well as a rocket launcher. and they are believed to be the two main suspects in this case. all the french police are saying so far is that the two men have been located. and now as the rains come pouring down here in paris, even the skies are crying at this moment of this country's history, and people now approaching -- here you can see the center of the square. people have been putting flowers, putting pieces of paper, so many of them saying what is now one of the slogans of this past 24 hours. "i am charlie." a reference, of course to charlie hebdo. four among the most loved satirical cartoonists that france has ever known. today french cartoonists are continuing to write, saying they're going to continue to fight back with their pens. let's look at all the latest developments with this report from emily buchanan. >> reporter: france is still reeling from the bloodshed, and today, more shooting. this is the city of montrouge just south of the capital. the emergency services blocked here after a man wearing a flak jacket opened fire with an automatic rifle. a policewoman was killed and a street cleaner was seriously injured. the interior minister rushed to the scene, but cautioned against making links to wednesday's attack on the satirical magazine. the president francois hollande said the country had been struck in the heart and called the attack on "charlie hebdo" an act of exceptional barbarism. in a show of unity, his long-standing political opponent nicolas sarkozy said it was an attack on democracy itself. >> translator: civilized people irrespective of their beliefs, should unite in the face of this bashrbarism barbarism. this is a war against civilization and there is the possibility of civilization to defend itself and that's what we have decided to do. >> reporter: france is on its highest level of alert and a massive security operation has been under way all night. this was in the early hours where police commandos raided a building. one of the suspects, hamyd mourad, is believed to be from here. he has now surrendered at a police station. the two other suspects already known to the intelligence services are still being hunted. they are cherif kouachi, who has a history of sending jihadi fighters to iraq and his brother said both considered armed and dangerous. >> translator: these individuals are known to the intelligence services, and because they were known, they would have been followed. we are facing an unprecedented terrorist threat. both within france and overseas. the police and justice system have dismantled a number of groups which were planning terrorist attacks. that is proof that we are talking action. >> reporter: amidst the tension and the grief, the bells of notre dame cathedral tolled. the country stood together in a minute's silence. public transport at a standstill. a moment to digest the full horror of the killings. emily buchanan, bbc news. the latest there from paris, and the developments still coming in thick and fast. we'll just say from overnight, the french prime minister manuel valls did point out that several people had been detained by police as they investigated the attack on the "charlie hebdo" offices. >> translator: these individuals were probably being followed, but there's always a degree of risk. that's a hard thing to hear because there are victims. because there has been a terrible attack. because we've all been affected. our world has been turned upside down. and i think of the victims, of the wounded who are fighting to stay alive, just like you, i knew some of those who were killed. their loved ones their friends, each of them must of course, have answers to the questions we're you're asking, but i think that today it's too early to answer them. >> translator: some questions about the investigation. is a third man being looked for or not? because some accounts say three men were involved in this attack, not two. >> translator: we are looking for some men, probably two. we have questioned several people. >> translator: two perhaps, not three? >> translator: questioned several people. >> well, manuel valls was talking about the people they've been questioning but the focus really is on the two kouachi brothers who have been picked out as the chief suspects the ones responsible for the shootings, and there has been a sighting of them. i want to just show you on the map where that sighting is because it's out of paris itself. you can see, head northeast for 100 kilometers that is where they have been reported as being seen by the manager of a service station, who said they were in a gray car. they were armed with a rocket launcher. if you turn a sort of short right on the map, head eastward you would head toward the champagne region which we understand is where these brothers actually come from. but that is the latest we have heard, that they have been spotted in that neck of the woochds it's been running on french tv, suggesting that's where they may be. part of a major, of course, police operation going on there. we're keeping across the story here on "bbc world news." and also in just a moment we'll show you what the cartoonists around the world are saying and drawing about an assault on their freedom of expression. one must project success. that's why we use fedex one rate®. >>their flat rate shipping. exactly. it makes us look top-notch but we know it's affordable. 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>> yes, we were actually -- we saw them passing out 20 25 men heavily armed and with huge shields. they evacuated a whole hotel. we saw the customers of the hotel being sent to the street and covered up. we thought that they would intervene. that finally, a few minutes later, they aborted the operation. so it seeps right now that they are collecting materials, collecting pages from the neighborhood shop. but apparently they don't have any leads yet. even if we whispered this morning that one person has been arrested, there's still no evidence that it's actually the shooter. so the shooter might still be free in paris. >> which is worrying enough. but from what you said here there would be no obvious reason to tie this in with the events at the "charlie hebdo" offices yesterday. >> definitely not. a few minutes, the first policemen arrived, i heard them saying it was calashnikov bullets. but it hasn't been confirmed that it has any link with the shooting yesterday at "charlie hebdo." definitely not. the police are still looking for some clues, information. one thing for sure is this person was alone. >> i'm sure you are rushing from element to element and development of this story. but have you been able to get a sense as to how much this has gripped paris, the way in which people are responding? >> i don't know. i think people were definitely under shock yesterday. it was obvious -- it was terrible to be here. when you're a journalist it was very good to be here because you could feel this huge time of sympathy and unity, right? this morning, people are here. pretty tense, pretty stressed. because of course, nobody knows what's going to happen next. and it's very worrying because it's not a country where we're used to seeing gunmen coming here in the streets and shooting at people like that. >> i just want to ask you one more question if i may, and that relates to the second police officer, we understand who was hurt. i did see one report suggesting gravely wounded, as was the police officer who died. do you know anything more about that? >> yes, we know that -- i interrogated some people who were in a bar just in front of the scene. and they saw the guy. the shooter hit a policewoman, shot a second time and the bullets just hit this guy on the face. apparently, hit in the mouth. ten minutes later, he was on the floor. and the witnesses i've met took some cover. ten minutes later, they came back, and still the body of the lady -- the policeman lady was still there. but the body of this man was gone. so nobody knew. it was a very worrying for two or three hours. nobody wanted to confirm. apparently this person was just injured. for now, it's just injured. >> right. but this was pretty much rush hour, so i imagine there were plenty of people who actually saw what happened. >> well, people have been evacuated already. not so many people -- it was not that much of a rush hour. it was very early. i mean it was 8:00 but we're in a quiet city of paris outskirts. but it was very very dark. you have to remember keep in mind, that it was 8:00 in the morning, so very very dark. and a lot of confusion. when i arrived i was trying to catch my bus. and i heard don't go there, is that somebody shooting? don't go there, there's one policeman on the floor. so as a journalist, i'm cautious, but i'm going up. but everybody was evacuating the streets very quickly. the street was blocked. so actually, it's possible that there's a lot of confusion. hopefully, hopefully there will be a lot of clues. >> carrie thanks very much indeed for bringing us right up to date there. carrie nooten down in montrouge in the south of the capital, where one police officer has died in the course of the last few hours in another shooting incident. we're going to stay with the story, of course because it throws up so many other implications really and is concern in france about the potential for a backlash against muslim communities. we've been speaking to a couple of muslim shopkeepers in the neighborhood near the offices of "charlie hebdo" magazine to find out how they feel at the moment. >> translator: it happened just behind the corner. i'm sad. and i wonder what other people will think. many as a muslim i disagree with what happened. i regret the loss of human beings. the opinion of the non-muslims will worsen and we will be even more stigmatized. today, french muslims are trying hard to integrate and to be respected, doing everything to be french before being muslim. people's fears will only grow after this. and i can understand them. >> everybody is shocked about what happened today. you can only condemn this atrocity, this act, this crime. if somebody kills another one, it's as if he killed the whole humanity. these are the koran's words. >> do you think they offended with the cartoons? >> they did, obviously. but i don't think the reaction should be more than expressing a disagreement. to tell them that we as muslim, we are shocked. we do not agree with publishing your -- these cartoons. and to let them do. there's no revenge in this town. you should be good as the prophet teaches us. even with your enemy. >> understandable anxiety among muslims in paris in particular. a huge response on social media, as you might well expect. it's been inundated with people paying their tributes and expressing solidarity with those who died. let's bring you a flavor of that. je suis charlie is the hash tag, being used across france. millions tweeting that. "we are charlie." "i am charlie." basically supporting "charlie hebdo" magazine. we've got pictures and cartoons as well honoring those who died. no fear. that says pas peur. these are all trending at the moment on the website. as well as words, the pens being used as a symbol. you can see here. they were held up in last night's vigil as an indication of defiance really. and also worth reflecting on some of the notable figures who had been taking to social media in order to express their sorrow at what has happened. pope francis among many others. a simple tweet. prayers for paris as a hash tag. the palace is providing very regular updates on twitter about the action being taken by president hollande in response to the attack just pointing out there that he's hosting nicolas sarkozy, the former french president and leader of the unp center right party there in the elysee palace. that was earlier on in the day. as for cartoonists around the world, they've been using that slogan in drawings they've done in commemoration and in solidarity. i want to close this bulletin with some of their work. i'm david eades with "bbc world news." our top stories. france holds a minute's silence to remember the victims of wednesday's attacks on "charlie hebdo" magazine offices where 12 people were killed. the two men suspected of that massacre cherif and said kouachi, are reportedly sighted at a service station northeast of paris. a third suspect has surrendered. a police officer is shot dead and another person wounded in a separate shooting in paris. it's not clear at this stage if it's related to wednesday's attacks. also we'll have international reaction to the killings in paris, including what cartoonists around the world have to say about an assault on their freedom of expression. hello, thanks very much for joining us. french media are reporting that the two men suspected of having carried out the attack on the "charlie hebdo" magazine have in fact, been spotted. the french tv station says the manager of a petrol station on a main road north of paris recognized the two men. at this stage, there has been no official comment on those reports. i should add there has also been another deadly shooting in paris. this was in the southern suburb of montrouge. these are the pictures live here now, where a policewoman it's been confirmed has died after she was shot by a man who opened fire. another officer is injured. let's go to lyse doucet in paris. >> reporter: and you join us here in paris, in the heart of paris on a gray cold and rainy day here in the french capital on what's being described as one of the darkest moments in this country's history. and yet, french people are coming out to show their sadness and solidarity. a look here on the stones here in front of the monument. the pens that people held in the air last night to show that this was not just an attack on the french satirical magazine "charlie hebdo." this was an attack on freedom of expression. people fighting back with their hands, with one of the slogans raised on placards right across the country. people have left them here the candles, the wax has melted. but the determination of people here has not gone away. their response to this unprecedented attack on a french media office on journalism on france itself. it's been seen as an attack not just that killed sadly 12 people, and those people were remembered in a minute of silence a short time ago. not just a minute of silence. we saw it here. people also erupted in a minute of spontaneous clapping. clapping to show they were standing as one at france's defining moment. a moment of national mourning a moment of an unprecedented, a massive police operation, an historic moment in the french republic that is being watched right around the world. and of course, the tragedy isn't over and nor are the security threats. let's just summarize for you the main developments that have taken place in the last 24 hours. there have been the two main suspects, said and cherif kouachi, two men in their 30s on the run said to be armed and dangerous in. the last hour, police say the two men have been spotted in a car north of paris, with weapons, with a rocket launcher trying to make their getaway. all the french police are saying so far is that they have been located. a police officer has also been shot dead. a policewoman in another incident this morning, when a man in an armored vest opened fire with an assault rifle, critically injuring three people. one of them the policewoman has been killed. no sense yet whether this is linked to yesterday's attack. another incident an explosion at a kebab shop. it's understood there were no casualties, but the deputy mayor of the town expressed concern that this was a backlash against what happened yesterday in paris, and he called for solidarity at france's painful moment. french police overnight made seven arrests. all of these people are said to be linked related in some way to the two chief suspects in this case. they were arrested in the paris area. vision to the kouachi brothers there's a third suspect, hamyd mourad, 18 years old, who handed himself in yesterday to the french authorities. the interior ministry spokesman told us early this morning that he had an alibi. he was in school at the time. so the french authorities think there could be another suspect in this case. and as we have been saying the people of france the people around the world have been holding vigils in a show of sadness and solidarity for the 12 deaths here in paris. today, a day of national mourning. the flags are flying at half-mast, and the people of france have been standing up to say they will not allow these attacks on freedom of expression, on the values they hold dear. and that was manifested in a moment of silence. just look at some of the images in that moment across france today. >> a show of unity by the people of france this morning. there's also been a show of unity among the country's politicians. this morning, the french president francois hollande held meetings at his elysee palace. among them the former french president nicolas sarkozy, who told journalists this was not a time for politics, not a time to talk about any elections. it was a time for all people of france to come together. yesterday, he had said we will continue to write as we have always written, we will continue to live as we have always lived. but just look at all the main developments so far with this report from emily buchanan. >> reporter: france is still reeling from the bloodshed, and today, more shooting. this is the city of montrouge just south of the capital. the emergency services flocked here after a man wearing a flak jacket opened fire with an automatic rifle. a policewoman was killed and a street cleaner was seriously injured. the interior minister rushed to the scene, but cautioned against making links to wednesday's attack on the satirical magazine. the president francois hollande said the country had been struck in the heart and called the attack on "charlie hebdo" an act of exceptional barbarism. in a show of unity, nicolas sarkozy said it was an attack on democracy itself. >> translator: civilized people irrespective of their beliefs, should unite in the face of this barbarism, this fanatical barbarism. this is a war that has been declared against civilization and the possibility is for civilization to defend itself and that's what we have decided to do. >> reporter: france is on highest alert and a massive security operation has been under way. this is the early hours where police commandos raided a building. one of the suspects hamyd mourad is believed to be from here. he has now surrendered at a police station. the two other suspects already known to the intelligence services are still being hunted. they are cherif kouachi, who has a history of sending jihadi fighters to iraq and his brother said both considered armed and dangerous. >> translator: these individuals are known to the intelligence services, and because they were known, they would have been followed. we are facing an unprecedented terrorist threat. both within france and overseas. the police and justice system have dismantled a number of groups which were planning terrorist attacks. that is proof that we are taking action. >> reporter: amidst the tension and the grief, the bells of notre dame cathedral tolled. a minute's silence, public transport at a standstill, a moment to digest the full horror of the killings. emily buchanan, bbc news. >> reporter: despite the rain despite the fears of another attack, the people are still coming to the squares. there's two people here who are stopped to talk to us. your reaction to yesterday's attack? >> well this happened just near my art school, so i was going to school when i heard about this. policemen didn't let me take the train because of the danger. i'm talking about the alert of attack. and yeah i'm very shocked about this. things like this don't happen every day in paris. >> do you fear it will happen again? >> yes. >> what about you, chris? what were you thinking about this morning during the moment of silence about france about your country? >> not even about fear or being scared no. it's just pure sadness. it's just too bad it happens. we don't understand. >> did you ever expect this to happen in france? >> well you know in previous years, everyone told us that it could happen. it happened in spain. it happened in berlin. it happened everywhere. but everything is falling on us. the sky is just falling on our heads. it's just too hard. >> thank you very much. the sky is falling on our heads, chris says. it's a feeling among people here, even those who expected this could happen. the journalists themselves had lived with death threats for many years. it's not the first time there's been an attack in france but never has there been an attack of this kind. never in the past 50 years. the interior ministry said now we will say, never in the past 50 years. back to you in london. >> lyse doucet outside the notre dame there in paris. much more of course to come from france in the course of the bulletin. stay with us here on "bbc world news." you want an advanced degree, but sometimes work can get in the way. now capella university offers flexpath, a revolutionary new program that allows you to earn a degree at your pace and graduate at the speed of you. flexpath from capella university. you're watching "bbc world news." i'm david eades. the latest headlines for you. the two men suspected of wednesday's attacks on a french magazine where 12 people were killed have reportedly been sighted at a service station northeast of paris. a third suspect has surrendered himself. in a separate shooting in paris, a police officer is killed, another wounded. it's not clear if this is related to wednesday's massacre. let's bring you right up to date then with the sighting of the two men suspected of wednesday's attacks on a french magazine, where in all, as we know now, 12 people were killed. they're reported to have robbed a service station in -- i say the northeast. it's northeast of paris, really. villers-cotterets is the name of the town where these two men were reported as being sighted. a service station manager said they were driving a gray car, they were masked and armed with kalashnikovs and a grenade launcher. interestingly, this is about equal distance between paris and the city where the 18-year-old man has come forward and given himself up to police where he is from. and there may be a connection to that region. that's the champagne region of france. let's refer also to what is being described at the moment as possibly an unrelated incident but it has been confirmed that one police officer has died after being shot in montrouge. this is a suburb in southern paris. it took place early in the morning. witnesses say the policewoman, it was a woman, in fact, was dealing with a traffic accident when a man in a car got out and opened fire. he's reported of being carrying a pistol and an assault rifle. one witness also says he was wearing a bulletproof vest. >> translator: this morning around 8:00 a man in a car opened fire on one member of the municipal police and one member of the federal police who happened to be working together on public roads. the individual got out of his car and started shooting. then fled the scene. >> that's emanuel cravello there. carrie nooten is a journalist with the french public broadcaster. she's been at the scene of this shooting in montrouge and she gave me the latest. >> reporter: yes i think we know a little bit more because i was able to talk with some witnesses. so it all started with an accident, a car accident in the middle of the road very early this morning, 7:15 and 45 minutes later on, while the policewoman arrived to do a routine job and she was taking some information about the car accident the shooter arrived. he shot her, hit her. shot a second time. hit a guy who was working for the city. he was injured in the face. and there was a fight in the street because people were trying to stop him. and he managed to flee away. and apparently there were another couple -- like three gunshots. but definitely somebody was alone, and he arrived and he aimed at the policewoman who was working in the street. >> right. can i ask you, carrie, we saw pictures not very long ago of the special police unit the brigade research and intervention in that area. do you know what they were up to? >> reporter: yes, we were actually -- we saw them passing out 20 or 25 men, heavily armed and with huge shields. they evacuated a whole hotel. we saw the customers at the hotel being sent to the street and covered up. we thought that they would intervene, but finally a few minutes later, they aborted the operation. so it seems right now that they are collecting materials from the neighborhood shops. but apparently they don't have any leads yet, and even if we whispered this morning that one person has been arrested there's still no evidence that it's actually the shooter. so the shooter might still be free in paris. >> right. which is worrying enough. but from what you've said here there would be no obvious reason to tie this in with the events at the "charlie hebdo" offices yesterday. >> definitely not. a few minutes, the first policemen arrived, i heard them saying it was kalashnikov bullets they collected, but it hasn't been confirmed. it seems to be automatic gun, but it hasn't been confirmed that it has any link with the shooting yesterday at "charlie hebdo." definitely not. it's possible that -- i mean the police are still looking for some clues, some information, but one thing is sure that this person this morning was alone. >> carrie obviously these are extraordinary times in paris at the moment and i'm sure you are rushing from element to element and development of this story. but have you been able to get a sense as to how much this has gripped paris, the way in which people are responding? >> reporter: i don't know. i think people were definitely in shock yesterday. i don't live in france so it was terrible to be here. and at the same time when you're a journalist, it was very good to be here because you could feel this huge time of sympathy and unity, right? this morning people here are pretty tense, pretty stressed because of course, nobody knows what's going to happen next. and it's very worrying because it's not a country where we're used to seeing gunmen coming in the street and shooting at people like that. >> i just want to ask you one more question if i may. and that relates to the second police officer we understand who was hurt. i did see one report suggesting gravely wounded as well as the police officer who died. do you know anything more about that? >> reporter: yes, we know -- i interrogated some people in a bar just in front of the scene and they saw the guy. the shooter hit a policewoman, shot a second time and the bullets just hit this guy on the face. apparently has been hit in the mouth. but ten minutes later, he was hit, he was on the floor. and just when the witnesses met, took some cover, ten minutes later they came back. and the policeman lady was killed there, but the body of this man was gone. so nobody knew. it was very worrying for two or three hours. nobody wanted to confirm. apparently this person was just injured. for now just injured. >> right. this is pretty much rush hour wasn't it? i imagine there were plenty of people around who actually saw what happened. >> well, people have been evacuated already. it was not a matter of rush hour. it was very early. we were in a quiet city of paris. it was busy but it was very very dark. you have to remember -- keep in mind that it was 8:00 in the morning. a lot of confusion. when i arrived, i was trying to catch my bus. and i heard, don't go there, there's somebody shooting. don't go there, there's one policeman wounded and on the floor. so as a journalist, i'm cautious and going up but everybody, you know evacuating the streets very quickly. the street was blocked. so i actually -- it's possible that a lot of confusion. hopefully, hopefully there will be a lot of clues. >> that's carrie nooten talking to me just a short while ago. one of the things that's been significant in the wake of the attacks has been the online reaction. so many people going on to twitter and indeed other sites to declare je suis charlie, i am charlie, i support "charlie hebdo." many cartoonists have been using that slogan in drawings they've done in commemoration and solidarity. >> some powerful expressions of defiance from cartoonists the world over there. i just want to give you an update on all the developments in france in the course of the last few hours. france has observed a minute of silence in honor of the 12 people who were killed by gunmen at the satirical magazine "charlie hebdo" on wednesday. the hunt goes on for the "charlie hebdo" attackers. the two key suspects cherif and said kouachi were spotted in a car northeast of paris. one witness at a petrol station told police they were masked and armed and the car's registration plates were masked. police believe they may be heading back to paris. armed officers have been posted at access points into the capital. our correspondent in paris says the fear is the brothers may be determined to die in another bloody tack. there's also been another attack when a policewoman was killed when a man opened fire in the south of the capital. what makes it an suv is what you can get into it. ♪ [container door closing] what makes it an nx is what you can get out of it. ♪ introducing the first-ever lexus nx turbo and hybrid. once you go beyond utility there's no going back. you park your car. as you walk away crunch! a garbage truck backs into it. so,you call your insurance company, looking for a little support. 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