Transcripts for BBC World Service BBC World Service 20180812

Transcripts for BBC World Service BBC World Service 20180812 000000

And have turned their back on diplomacy that what he is doing is against the Iranian nation and against the national interests of Iran when hospital patients and students in Canada were sent packing by their own government in Saudi Arabia we're looking at schoolchildren in Bangladesh chased off the streets they wanted to make safe under British politician describes veiled women as letter boxes and bank robbers should he apologize I just think he's saying what a lot of us are actually saying I think it's intimidating to be completely public up that he should upset a large community at all because I think and I think there are quite a lot of comments actually it's not necessary all that after this. I'm Julie Candler with the b.b.c. News tens of thousands of Romanians have again been protesting in central Bucharest against the government accusing it of corruption and abuse of power many of the demonstrators who blew horns and waved flags returned from across Europe to voice their disgust there particularly angry at the government's sacking of an anti corruption prosecutor the police were out in force at the protest these protesters voiced their anger. For how we're not satisfied with what is happening in our country we don't trust this government we came here to protest against this corrupt government we want all of them to resign we want this government to leave this government is not legitimate anymore because they've breached their contract with us at least 3 members of the security forces in Jordan have been killed in a raid on a suspected militant hideout the government spokeswoman said they died during an operation against what she called a terrorist cell in the town of salt ground farit reports the police raid on a building on a hillside in salt west of the capital Amman went on for several hours as well as prolonged exchanges of gunfire video on social media shows a blast that destroyed a building there are reports that a number of people have been injured the raid follows a bomb attack on a security patrol near a music festival outside a man on Friday in which one policeman was killed and several others were hurt no group has admitted carrying out the bombing an active member of the u.s. Led effort against the Islamic state group Jordan has suffered sporadic attacks by jihadists Egypt's public prosecutor has charged a former monk with the murder of a bishop at a desert monastery Bishop Epiphanius was found dead in a pool of blood at the end of July John McManus reports the murder of Bishop Epiphanius has rocked the Coptic Church whose appearance make up around 10 percent of Egypt's population the 64 year old was found dead at Abu Macca monastery $100.00 . Kilometers northwest there kero his alleged murder a y.l. Sart was a monk at the same on a straight but was stripped of his religious title in the days following the death he said Serve told prosecutors that he used an iron pole so bludgeon the bishop to death it's not known what the motive might be but the church has instituted a crackdown on clergy behavior including banning them from social media and freezing the recruitment of new monks for a year police are patrolling the u.s. City of Charlottesville way vents are underway to mark the anniversary of deadly clashes triggered by a neo Nazi rally concrete barricades have been erected in the city center and many streets closed to traffic earlier President Trump tweeted that last year's violence between far right demonstrators and their opponents resulted in senseless death and division he said he condemned all types of racism at the time Mr Trump was criticized for insisting both sides were to blame world news from the b.b.c. Hundreds of people have been demonstrating in Venezuela or in support of an opposition politician accused of involvement in the parent drone attack on the President Nicolas Maduro but just as in the capital Caracas demanded the release of one Records saw he's been in custody since being arrested at his home by the Venezuelan secret police worsening floods in the southern Indian state of Carroll have now displaced at least 636000 people and killed nearly 40 local disaster management officials that hundreds of relief camps have been set up across the state to accommodate those forced from their homes numerous landslides have been reported. The number of people killed in airstrikes on a rebel held town in northwestern Syria is reported to have risen to at least 37 the local council in Cobra said around 70 were wounded in the raid on Friday some 25 homes and shops were destroyed Russian backed government forces are increasingly focusing their attention on the country's northwest where the rebels have a last major bastion the British author and Nobel Prize winner v.s. Naipaul has died at his home in London he was 85 born to an Indian family in Trinidad NY polls started at Oxford University and worked for the b.b.c. Before becoming a prolific author in a statement his wife described him as a giant in all here Cheve Jenny looks back at his life video darts a Raj Persaud NY Paul was a prolific writer publishing around 30 books over 5 decades they ranged from Roy comedies of Trinidadian life like the Mystic Masseur to travel writing and memoirs his best known works include a house the Mr biz was and the Booker prize winning in a free state in 1990 he was knighted then in 2110 the pinnacle of his career the Nobel Prize for Literature b.b.c. News Hello I'm Joe McGiver And welcome back to the world this week this week we're looking at the long arm of government tweaking the nose of the common man as u.s. Sanctions bite in Iran has President Trump it now for more than he can chew in threatening all Iran's trading partners our British politicians apparent defense of the right to be very old caused uproar how the Bangladeshi government crackdown on protesting school children and why Saudi students and patients are packing their bags in Canada. I am asking for world peace nothing less tweeted President Trump this week that came soon after the Iranian president Hassan Rouhani accused the u.s. Of waging psychological warfare why well this was the week that the u.s. Reimposed economic sanctions on Iran a consequence of Washington's decision in May to pull out of the landmark nuclear deal with Iran and that wasn't all anyone doing business with Iran will not be doing business with the United States President Trump added that threat to 3rd parties only seem to widen the current rift between Washington and many European capitals whose governments fought to protect the nuclear deal and in Iran the currency is collapsing and jobs are at risk of further tougher set of sanctions on Iranian oil comes into effect in November so how bad will it get Jonathan Marcus is the B.B.C.'s diplomatic correspondent and I spoke to to see if a correspondent with b.b.c. Persian I asked sea of ash 1st about the impact of the sanctions on a rainy and lives mostly it's psychological at this stage because the sanctions came into effect just 2 days ago so whatever has happened ever since has been a sense of anticipation it's like some people faint when you hold the syringe in front of them and before it's injected and once it is then they get a sense of relief it's not going to kill them in the currency already suffered from that anticipation that it has taken a nosedive it's lost almost 80 percent of its value since Donald Trump came to office and with every explosive tweet that he makes and with every war of words and every answer that the Iranian authorities gives it keeps falling but in terms of the people's purchasing power unemployment the economic conditions haven't changed so much some stats say that it maybe 1510 to 15 percent of people's purchasing power has declined since last year so we're just talking about is you know a long way off from Venezuela scenario but people are worried that it might lead into that and how does that of. Public opinion in terms of what the government should do or feeling towards the u.s. Well there is a lot of anger there's a lot of disillusionment but it's very dissipated and it's in all directions this more confused anger on one hand people are angry at the government President Rouhani who hasn't delivered all his plans was you know relied on nuclear deal that's where all his eggs went in that basket he didn't have any plan b. What if the nuclear deal falls through on the other hand they're upset with the regime in its entirety there is a huge problem with mismanagement so on and so forth and the other hand there is also anger directed at the u.s. Administration President Donald Trump's hard line stance has brought about these sanctions so on one hand you have people rallying around the flag it's not an issue of rallying around the flag but it's issue of people not joining in some of these demonstrations that are taking place on the Iranian streets a lot of people are angry and heed the calls of opposition groups from outside the country mostly based in the u.s. To take to the streets and they do that in smaller numbers but it's not like back in 2009 when country was gripped by massive protests it's not like everyone's joining these protests I don't think we look at the broader diplomatic scenario thinking particularly about the rift between the u.s. And Europe what impact is it having on that well it's why I think that rift I think the only positive if you could say from the Iranian diplomatic perspective is precisely that gulf that has opened between the United States its European allies and indeed between the u.s. And all other signal crews of the original Iran agreement the Europeans believe very firmly that this agreement is in their best security now they've talked a lot about enacting measures to try and reduce the economic pressure on Iran essentially to reduce the impact of the American secondary sanctions e.u. Leaders seem to be encouraging European businesses to defy the u.s. And go ahead can businesses afford to do that well I think very unlikely that they will but if you think about it at the last time. Sanctions went into effect in a big way prior to the Iran agreement I think Iran's g.d.p. Between 20112014 was reduced by 9 percent which is a huge impact or oil sanctions from 2012 meant that Iran's exports of oil were almost hall now oil exports certainly will go down as a result of these sanctions but to what extent will China and maybe India other countries in the Far East by oil to make up some of the difference and crucially of course to what extent is America going to try and take action against entities and companies in those countries see of us Jonathan mentioning there the oil sanctions to come later in the year how much more significant do you think those will be for their own domestically for Iranians have been through that before but on the other hand they've also experienced the euphoria of the Iran nuclear deal with the sanctions were removed so the idea of going back to those days of 20122013 is not very pleasant right now they're not so much thinking on seizing on these differences between the e.u. And the u.s. Right now the focus the talk is on whether President Trump's offer of talks with the Iranian leaders whether that should be accepted or not and there's this conversation going on inside the country President Rouhani has been ruled that out the supreme leader hasn't said much about it the hardliners obviously don't feel like they want to that the pressure is so strong that they want to go to the negotiating table but a lot of people including some of Iran's nuclear negotiators in the past are saying that these talks should be carried out looking at Donald Trump psychological profile they're saying give him what he needs feed his ego listen gage in talks with them we might even be able to get a deal better than the nuclear deal as long as his name is stamped on it so right now that's the idea and they're looking at September where there is a chance in the United Nations General Assembly that President Rouhani and Donald Trump might run into each other and there has been rumors going on about some back channel talks already taking place. Of course officially has been denied more broadly Jonathan terms of the us his own moral authority and its role as a global policeman is Iran an example of that being increasingly undermined Well I think it's an example of the model and uncertainty that surrounds American policy I mean we don't really know what America's policy is towards Iraq I mean the policy used to be containing its nuclear program and there was an agreement with all its imperfections and many people thought it was imperfect but many people thought that an imperfect agreement was better than nothing at all we don't know what the American administration wants from Iran some as official say it's not regime change if you look down the list of demands set out in a recent speech by the u.s. Secretary of State Mr Pompei 0 one person described it as the sort of demands you make from a country that you defeated in a war it does seem very much to be something akin to regime change that the Americans are and the paradox of all of this I think is that what was the Trump is doing in reimposing the sanctions regime is he setting a goal which is greater than the previous goals he wants to see 0 oil exports He wants the nuts cracking of the pits squeaking or whatever whatever metaphor you want to use and of course the reality is that the coalition that used to exist to back up this sanctions regime has fragmented is fractured is disagree amongst itself the b.b.c. Is Jonathan Marcus and see if. It was apparently a defense of a woman's right to wear the veil Boris Johnson the former British foreign secretary is known for his flamboyant often controversial turn of phrase but this time his choice of words has cost uproar in a newspaper article Mr Johnson wrote that full face veil shouldn't be banned but even if he supported a woman's right to choose he described women in burkas as looking like letter boxes and separately like a bank robber he's refused to apologize despite calls for him to be disciplined there was close to him accuse his critics of trying to shut down a cent. City of debate and opinion polls suggest many members of the public support him our religious affairs correspondent Martin Bashir assesses why his remarks of course such a fence Britain has been laboring under stifling boiling hot temperatures over the last 4 weeks caused by the spread of high pressure right across Europe and I'm wondering if this might explain a newspaper column written by Britain's former foreign secretary Boris Johnson in which he defended the right of Muslim women to dress as they pleased but then said that those wearing face covering veils look like letter boxes and bank robbers appearing to conflate criminality bank robbery with religious devotion modest dress he seemed to compound matters by saying that he couldn't find a single verse in the Koran that supported such clothing it helped create what Americans refer to as a hot mess a political mud fight and the reaction was swift groups representing a range of British Muslims accused him of racism and throwing cheap shots at Britain's most vulnerable women even Mr Johnson's former boss Prime Minister to reason may said his words had clearly caused offense and he should apologize but Mr Johnson defended his column as a legitimate attempt to explore an important social issue and argued that healthy liberal democracies must allow even the most difficult issues to be discussed the implication is that he was going somewhere where others are not prepared to go a standard bearer for independence of mind in a world of political correctness. But was he and his he. I only ask because targeting Muslims is a well worn practice built around fear and exaggeration 2 years ago the polling organization Mori wanted to measure the gap between public perception and the actual number of Muslims in 40 European nations the results were staggering the average French estimate was 31 percent almost one in 3 residents but the actual number of Muslims in France stood at just over 7 percent or one in 13 and in Britain the gap between perception and reality is even wider Britain's believe that one in 6 of the nation's population is made up of Muslims the reality is just one in 20 we also know from police constabularies across England and Wales that there were 80400 hate crimes from 2016 to 2017 an increase of 29 percent and the vast majority of these crimes 78 percent were racially motivated these are the facts of living in a multi-ethnic multi-faith multicultural society and it sometimes makes for grim reading over the last 4 days I've had several conversations with stakeholders in this area a former senior police officer who is a Muslim people connected to organizations like the Muslim Council of Britain and Imaam a vicar among others the reaction has been largely one of hurt but the river also been several insightful observations one individual said he felt powerless to respond because Boris Johnson has the megaphone of a newspaper column and a seat in Parliament and this elderly gentleman had no such means of expressing himself. Another wanted to know how Boris Johnson felt able to critique another person's religious devotion how could he possibly know the in a light that might lead a Muslim woman to dress modestly in order to nurture her devotion to God a Christian minister asked if Boris Johnson had ever read the Bible because there in the New Testament we find the Apostle Paul saying that women in church should remain silent and wear head coverings and that slaves should have a their masters if he was attempting to accuse Islam of patriarchal oppression then shouldn't he do the same with Christianity. The challenge for all of us is one of perception to what extent should we trust what we see or should we endeavor to look more closely before ghettoizing or other rising people who are simply different to ourselves. The B.B.C.'s religious affairs correspondent Martin Bashir You're listening to the world this week the program that tells you what happened in the past 7 days and white counts a week ago Bangladesh was captivated by extraordinary scenes school children many in uniform some as young as 11 took control of the streets of the capital Dhaka they stopped vehicles and checked documents the Road Safety movement erupted after 2 teenagers were killed by a speeding bus it seemed a vision of a better future children using social media chanting English slogans peacefully demanding change then politics came crashing in there was talk of infiltration by the warring political parties and the police responded with tear gas rubber bullets and arrests old Bangladesh was back with a vengeance I asked Sabean a stuffer head of the Bengali service what he made of the way the government had handled it well judging by the fact that there are no protests in the streets right now some people might say that the government played well but they have lost a huge amount of credibility in the eyes particularly or the educated middle class because they felt the government could have and should have engaged with the schoolchildren the day to day 3 of the protests because the government always said that we have the same goal as the kids safe roads but they don't engage and they're allowed this protest to continue until it kind of spilled over into violence why do you think I didn't think a journey because it was extraordinary when those scenes of young girls in school uniform with plant stopping cars and checking vehicles and so netting to have a lot of public support it could actually been quite positive with the government got behind them absolutely the public support was phenomenal it was right across the social spectrum and nobody could argue with what they were demanding s

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