Will claim exoneration and use it as a real way to fuel his presidential campaign in the 2020 race the German chancellor Angela Merkel is to visit Auschwitz concentration camp for the 1st time she'll take part in a service alongside a survivor and the Polish prime minister ahead of the 75th anniversary of the Kemp's liberation Official figures show cases of anti-Semitism in Germany rose by 10 percent last year. And environmental charities warning that 95 percent of Christmas jumpers bought in the u.k. This year will be wholly or partly made out of plastic research published by Hobbs says around $12000000.00 new Christmas jumpers will be bought this festive season $7.00 always from the charity we've already got in the cupboard a lot of us have got a Christmas jumper already and I will mind if you really care. What your friends and colleagues have you could do as well so if you've got Christmas time today you can fly around so you've got a new jumper or you can make one yourself just by getting an ordinary jumper and fixing some festive decorations up to it and people have reported their houses rattling enjoying an earthquake in Somerset the British Geological Survey says it had a magnitude of 3.2 and its epicenter was close to the town of Bridgewater is the sport now with Katie this is not Arsenal's as interim boss Freddie Ljungberg and it certainly wasn't how he wanted his 1st home game in charge to end also being $21.00 by Brighton at the Emirates is now 9 games without a win for the Gunners across all competitions leaving them 10th in the Premier League is their worse run of form for 42 years Newcastle are up to 11 so after a Tina win against Sheffield United at Bramall Lane There was controversy though for the 2nd goal v.a. Ought to check Andy Carroll for a possible offside pass that led to Jonjo Shelvey scoring Sheffield United boss Chris Wallace has V.A.R.'s sucking the life out of the game Marcus still has been sacked by Evanston off to 18 months in charge with the club in the bottom 3 of the table if he saw Dobie humiliation on Wednesday as they lost 5 to 2 rivals Liverpool Duncan Ferguson will take 10 pre-charge of the 1st team and Joshua says it would spoil the him if his world title fight with Andy Rooney's Genia was being used to sports washed human rights abuses in Saudi Arabia he tries to reclaim his heavyweight world titles on Saturday but face criticism for the fights venue I'm running as television is out of the u.k. Sneak a championship he was beaten 6 full by China's dinging way in the last 16 in York this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live on digital b.b.c. Set. It's. The weather now today is expected to be relatively mild but blustery early rain in the south will clear the way to leave sunny intervals and showers some of these will be heavy especially in the north and west it's likely saw the night particularly because it's a decent time to do weight up all night. What's coming up in the program then between now and 5 this morning well it feels weird to say it could be the last Breck's it cast before the end of the year but that's the plan anyway you never know when the klaxons going to fall particularly with the general election be just a week away. Before polling day anyway taking a look at what the main political parties have been saying about Bret's it on the campaign trail and also it's quite a funny one for you've had a little bit of a They've got a bit of a dead ringers. Edition with John and John Raven's more than that between 9 and 5 this morning and. Of course this time next week we're going to be bringing you all the results of the general election this should be related around this time so if you can to stay with us you'll hear them on live here on 5 life before all of that though it's time to find out was making the headlines dawned on there with our correspondent Phil Mercer morning. Yes Good Lisa how are you yeah not too bad Mike's not too bad so tell me then what's what's the main story we're talking about this morning well one of the big stories of the week is Australian police arresting a man aged 21 here in Sydney on 3 separate terrorism charges now investigators allege this man he hasn't been publicly identified as a member of the Islamic state group and they believe he was in the early stages of preparing for terrorist acts he's also accused of posting extremist content online and of trying to radicalize teenagers now the arrest comes after a very long investigation about 6 months with Origins here don't believe that an attack was imminent but one of the reasons they decided to act to arrest this man in charge him with these various offenses was after the events of London in the last week or 2 so we're all forit is here very very wary of the threat of homegrown extremism and this man is doing court again and if he's found guilty 21 years of age he could face life imprisonment I'm sure that's a story of the following fell away from that this is what I'm quite interested in hearing more of by because this is new task force to counter the threat of foreign interference in the stray you tell me more about. Australia's domestic spy agency is called a zio it's the Australian Security Intelligence Organization it will lead a new unit to protect Australia from foreign interference now the prime minister of Australia is a man called Scott Morrison he says that the threat is evolving there have been various allegations of Chinese interference in Australia's domestic affairs allegations of espionage by Chinese spy rings meddling by the Chinese in Australia's domestic politics with illegal donations and also multiple cyber attacks on universities and federal agencies now the prime minister Mr Morrison was at pains not to mention China individually much of the concern much of the intelligence chatter is over fears that China is trying to influence Australian society and politics but officials are pains to point out Lisa that many other threats are out there not just from China and the prime minister Mr Morrison says Australia is increasingly a target foreign interference comes from many many different sources and it's important that we have the capacity to deal with it it's an evolving threat and it's also I building an evolving response we have the the ability to develop a response that can really set the standard globally in understanding how foreign interference tight supplies understanding how to disrupt it most successfully and to counter it and ultimately to be able to put yourself in a position where you can talk matters to prosecution so interesting that it's a topical right across the globe fell completely moving away from politics why is the didgeridoo making the headlines. This fantastic new exhibition up in Brisbane at the Queensland Museum telling the fascinating history of this iconic wood instrument it's probably Australia's most famous instrument undoubtedly the sounds of Australia it has immense spiritual cultural and social significance to indigenous people of Australia we understand that the didgeridoo dates back about a 1000 years to a place called on him lands in Australia as Northern Territory they tell these didgeridoos the stories of indigenous ancestors it's the living breath of indigenous traditions that are passed down through art Don storytelling and music in the didgeridoo is a long wooden Choop often hollowed out of a tree trunk or a branch bite and it has as we can hear now Mary is not in. The exhibition at the queen's that museum in Brisbane has been curated with the help of Australia's leading indigenous all Thora tees on the de jury do the Queensland Museum says that this is the 1st exhibition of its kind in Australia really to delve into the rich history and culture the importance of this instruments in the museums chief executive Dr Jim Thompson hopes the visitors will appreciate its cultural value as you step inside the exhibition you also hear and feel. Seance of the instrument is a very immersive experience and be transported to our land home of the young people and you can master DJALU Gurruwiwi they're not just musical instruments that social instruments instruments of healing and spiritual life this exhibition brings to life those instruments in an environment of sound story moving images and treasured objects and tells the story from the creation of the instrument through its role in ceremony diplomacy and everyday life so we're fascinated instrument and feel you understand it but I ask if you ever tried to play one. No I haven't heard lots of tourists do it's interesting to note that the majority of the jury do that are made here in Australia are sold to tourists it is a very difficult instrument to master quite easy to get a sound out of because to do it properly you have to use something called circular breathing this is breathing in through your nose at the same time as pushing from your mouth to create this rhythmic hypnotic sound so easy to get a bit of a gargle from the jury do but in the hands of of a Master it is one of the sounds anywhere I think and it does evoke really the sense of Australia being a wide open brown land it does have just tried to master secular breathing as you are talking there it's very difficult just finally had a briefly Phill if you don't mind Israel Folau the Israeli rugby player back in the news this week just remind us of this story and why he's back in the headlines. Yes Earlier this year Israel Folau who was one of the stars of the Australian Rugby Union c was sacked for homophobic posts he made online saying that Hell Awaits gay people he was warned previously over these so short media statements he did sue rugby or Thor it is here for damages of about 7 and a half 1000000 pounds and this week the matter came before a judge and before this case got to trial both sides have agreed a confidential settlement both sides have said Sorry there is a lot of pressure on the boss of rugby Australia the governing body Raylene castle she is being seen in many quarters as backing down she did promise to fight Israel Folau over these comments search she has said that she didn't back down and that a long court battle wasn't in the games interest and also she said that this confidential settlement was cost effective for the game so it seems that on the face of it it is a win of sorts for Israel Folau but seeing him again in a rugby union Jersey here in Australia is considered highly unlikely he did of course make other comments linking Australia's drought and bushfire crises to the country's adoption of same sex marriage and abortion legislation so Israel Folau in court this week getting that settlement with rugby Australian safe to say Lisa he is a man who is never far from the headlines absolutely fail as always is going to pleasure thanks for giving as an update of what's happening in Australia it's time to get some early is headlines not a quarter past 4. 100 you told b.b.c. So must be the moment is c.b.c. Radio 5 lines on Mosley has the update the conservative and Labor party leaders will go head to head for the 2nd time later in a live election debate Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbin's clash comes after b.b.c. Presenter Andrew Neil urged Mr Johnson to be interviewed by him on prime time t.v. Before polling day. A man will appear in court later charged with the murder of a 12 year old boy in a hit and run outside a school in Essex Holly Watson died at the scene 51 year old Terence Glover is also accused of trying to kill a woman and 9 children and dangerous driving in Laos and on Monday more disruptions expected on travel services to and from France because of strike action the Us stars comes on 29 trains and flights and ferries are also expected to be affected and an earthquake has struck Somerset it had a magnitude of $3.00 and had an epicenter in the village of hunt with people reported their houses rattling and a big rumble just before 11 pm last night is the sport now with Katie Smith How do you solve a problem like Arsenal Well interim boss Freddie Ljungberg hasn't found the on say yes they were beaten 21 by Brighton in his 1st game in charge at the Emirates that's now 9 with auser win in all competitions for the gun as is the West Front of form since 1977 I mean if you know if it's a confidence thing how we start at 1st it was that that was we gave away one off at home you can't give away one off and just play for I need to work on that with them and we need to get confidence back into the works well that templates off the top for now meanwhile Newcastle are up to 11th on the same points as the gun as they beat Sheffield United to know the way they all came to play those Jonjo Shelvey is goal was originally disallowed for possible offside pos from Andy Carroll has a very disappointed Sheffield United boss Chris Wilder after another pop mob boys and say should play to the whistle but she's just a different game now is different game at Tottenham in a different game when it comes off a limit burnished chest in the last minute as many nights it is a different game where another manager down in the Premier League Marcus still has been sacked by evidence and after 18 months in charge with the club down in the relegation zone well after spending more than 100000000 pounds on players this summer they won just 4 league games this season form ever timid filled a pat Nevins the Silva hasn't maximized play a potential I could park is not where well for him he's had a good coach he will get another job almost certainly However I can. See that he could have kept on for much longer simply they won't get the results the phone into the bottom 3 those are actually good players and if I say one thing about mergers more than anything else you've got to see what you've got there and you've got to maximize the potential of that great he has done Duncan Ferguson will take temperature of the side for the game against Chelsea tomorrow former boss David Moyes is one of the possibilities to take over permanently the you case new can championship in your defending champion running O'Sullivan is out he lost by 6 frames to 4. But he says he can't be judged on a single match I think every picture of my career is pretty successful. Quit pretty hard on yourself to you know start judging your career while your whatever is on one told me one match sport is a bit more of a match from rather than just a single moment you know Steve is also series of the quarter finals he beat Michael White by 6 frames to full and he Joshua says it would bother him if his well title fight with Andy Rees Jr was being used to cover up human rights abuses in Saudi Arabia he's looking to reclaim his heavyweight Well titles from Ruiz's faced criticism from the fights venue if that was the case I would definitely have to say I would be what would my my only focus is just the books you know I mean it's just like me coming from work for just being told off by the Saudi Arabia star let's rock n roll you know a colorful That's just how I conduct is I am going to Saudi Arabia will bring you that hair law of on 5 Live to swimming now I am Britain's Max Litchfield claimed victory in the 40 meters individual medley of the European short course championships in Glasgow Duncan Scott took silver in the to injure me to freestyle it was bronze for Georgia Davies in the 100 metres backstroke final and angle for American Patrick Reid holds a 3 shot lead after the 2nd round at the hero while challenge in the Bahamas the latest now from b.b.c. 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Morning 21 minutes past 4 now this is up all night on 5 Live coming up a little bit later on and wake up to money thought reasons of people who last saw it when Thomas Cook one Boston September still waiting for refunds so they can be talking about that to make it after 5 this morning here and 5 life before that it seems weird to say the last breaths that cast before well before 2020 because let's be honest that clocks in can go off at any time but it's almost certainly the last breaths that cast before polling day we're just a week away until the general election and this very time next week we're going to bring you all of the results live here on 5 life now the team and Rex Academy having some fun with this one they've been having some laughs we'll get that the 2nd votes we're looking at what the main parties have been saying about bricks on the campaign trail but they're also taking a look ahead to tonight's leaders' debate with the Jeremy called an embarrassed Johnson b.b.c. . With a special edition of Dead Ringers with John cultural and John Reagan's. The dominant silverback gorilla of news just time for Brooks of course now his daughter comes book yes I am Laura Coons Beric I haven't slept for 3 years and I found living on College Green so long I'm now technically classified as an urban fox welcome to brag cast basic aspects that come from the b.b.c. No one's got close cooperation is actually. A point understood the full extent of this we've seen clear a lot of the cull a cross amateur bores junction you want to use the dangers to do still they are going to get it wrong again remain as and leave it as is going to end well the lawsuits are going on described as a dog's breakfast thank you to John Wright. Join cool show from Dead Ringers impersonating some of our beloved colleagues they will be back shortly as themselves it's the real Adam Fleming at Westminster here and the real Kathy added I think we should just say we shall not be moved to France strike us and to stay take over the studio and I think the real and not just I know it's an advantage in a whole satellite truck today in a lovely shot and I've been. In here in Birmingham but out on the campaign trail with labor for most all it even into the thing and they do get a bit clammy and we're fried by this time of night. Chris why did you need your thermals on what you've been doing well during that class reporters do rather a lot of hanging about so I've been following Jeremy Corbin for the last couple of days Today's been so they hope to focus on education and school so he was a school in Peterborough the smaller. In rugby and then in wall Saul and then he's heading here. So doing all the all things schools and public services but obviously as well today lots of questions chasing him about anti semitism given the submission that we've heard about submitted to the inquiry into all things on some of them is happening at the moment so I'm going to treat it somewhere inside which means the thermal strictly necessary which is where they get on the old sticky side or a lot of you know what's your take of what's been happening today I've also been officially indulging in the reporters have been hanging about but we have been hanging about waiting for and then listening to the prime minister Boris Johnson who was here at factory and trying really as we're now into the last week of the campaign to get back to his number one message and I think any basic Assamese us to remind him of what his number one message is is if he gets a working majority just 9 more seats as he keeps on telling people then we would be leaving the European Union next month according to his promise but he as ever has had a bit of a tricky time over exactly what he's promising. And whether or not it really stacks up throughout this campaign all of that is good fodder for the discussion we're going to have because I don't know if you realize this is the last Briggs cast before the election who. Is the masses moment it's because the elections are imposing on our Thursday actually exactly taken us off air some election night program instead. Which would be just as good so I thought maybe we'd actually just say this is an opportunity to just look back at the whole election campaign which I suppose that means looking back at the whole year because I mean we are here as it were I feel like we've been in this Fred 2 years it isn't really there so so I thought we just look at some of like the main messages of the parties and the party leaders and then see what we can divine from them and what interesting campaign trail anecdotes that inspires So 1st of all let's hear from Boris Johnson this is as Laura hinted Levering his big message about getting drugs done on bricks it will there be tariffs and checks on goods moving from Northern Ireland into Great Britain absolutely not absolute that's not what your work says and he looked at the law and he says there will have to be checks so Stephen Bach is wrong about this beauty of objects to block your breath yes he said the exit summary declarations will be required in terms of nor the knowledge that there will be no longer got such an absolute will be learned by Arabs and they will be no checks and what we will ensure is that the whole of the u.k. Northern Ireland and the rest of us can come out and let me thought you were talking about the capabilities which is going to affect Northern Ireland is not a joke Aldridge of the conservative this election is we have 635 candidates who've all signed up and they haven't been lobotomized and are they all signed up perfectly freely from all spectrum or a very very good deal with. All agreement to come out on January 31st it's a great deal that we are free we want to get it done. There's a lot of stuff going on in that clip with Boris Johnson and I'm sure more but they started off with this idea about what paperwork businesses in Northern Ireland would have to fill in if they want to send stuff to the rest of the u.k. Under the withdrawal agreement and then it went into the whole bigger Briggs picture Laura what did that exchange which contained a lot of stuff reveal about the Conservative campaign and positional Briggs Well I think it shows us that there was one very straightforward promise but there are lots of question marks about what it would actually mean if the Tories are able to keep it that makes sense so the reason Johnson called this election is because he got stuck in Parliament he chucked some people at the party which meant he lost his majority and although he performed what some people said would be impossible which was getting a new deal he then finally it's a reason why he couldn't get that deal through parliament so here we are that's why he's having the election and just that feat of saying look I have a deal is what he is using day after day after day after day to appeal to the country saying Vote for me and I promise you it will happen after all my kind of signed up but where he has also faced repeated questioning of the campaign is what would it actually mean if this deal goes through parliament so it's a bit in a funny way the Tories are find themselves a lot talking about the court the cart rather than the horse. But isn't it also because I mean the public is not stupid in that you know getting breakfast done is a slogan and you know offering too many easy sort of says it just in the end when people think about it doesn't add up and it's not just about leaving before the 31st of January it's also about getting a trade deal by the end of the year so certainly over the other side of the channel you know the e.u. Is always saying you know where the but somewhere the shades of grey rather than just the black and white when Boris Johnson Speaks Yes that's absolutely true and I think in this campaign we've seen old parties actually be really really pressed. Stacks up I think after the events of recent years and certainly the party is being very willing this time to play fast and loose. Particularly on social media with what they're saying and what's tree we see much more focus on how they deliver the things that are in their manifesto but I do think that where getting back to done is it's not just a slogan is if the Tories get a majority it would remove the one the central question of British politics for the last few years and what we talked about again and again and again on basic ass is whether this is going to happen asshole you know no question people don't believe the easy promises catch ups the right on either side of the channel but if there is a Tory majority that one question will have been answered is this thing actually going to happen or not and my favorite of the day was the chancellor such a job it being interviewed on this Today programme and I'm having a ding dong about equivalence and financial services an amazing preview of what we may have to look forward to next year it's right Chris your core Corben correspondent for the day let's listen to Jeremy Corbin on Question Time from a couple of weeks ago where he basically spelt out that once it becomes prime minister if he becomes prime minister he's just going to kind of flow above all Briggs it was we will negotiate a credible lead deal with the European Union but we finish please I've got a I'm trying to ask the gentleman's question secondly we will put that alongside remain in a referendum my role and the role of our government will be to ensure that that referendum is held in a fair was fair and we will abide by the result of it and I would have dropped as prime minister if I'm at the time a neutral stance so that I can credibly carry out the results of that to bring our communities and country together rather than continuing an endless debate about the e.u. Breaks at this will be a trade deal with Europe or remaining in the that will be the choice that we put before the British people within 6 months and the other option will require years of negotiations either with the e.u. Or the USA and put our public services at risk Chris analyze the korban stance and how it's going down well been taking us and this is my little pocket a complement a last couple of days on the road with the labor modified. You have to get to page $87.00 before there's any conversation about race at the 5 also the chapter is titled And you know as you know kind of what it says in there in the manifesto is what we just heard Jeremy Corbin say strike and we've talked about this before and we'll break that trust is that you know when you head out on the road so the last couple of days with Mr Coleman Well we never got to page 87 because he was talking about all of the stuff instead and when you speak to activists who are turning up at the events and cheering him on Iraq and all that kind of stuff 2 things crop up pretty quickly in private conversations warn is selling that breaks that message which is complicated is difficult on the doorstep in the dark in December and then the other thought is about Mr Coleman himself and people saying people. Are saying to me this morning that they try and pitch to say look this is about a team or electing a team in other words they're trying to find a way of polishing over the fact that for some people at least germy Corbin's a bit of a blockage Yeah I mean that's what I was you know we talked to Labor candidates in the last few days and beyond you know Jeremy Corbin is very devoted Corps which he does have a very very avid kind of fan base if you like he is for a lot of candidates they say he is a big problem on the doorstep and one candidate said to me this morning actually people raise Jeremy Corbin as being a negative on the doorstep 5 times more than they raise the backs of policy and that's been one of the things about this election actually both candidates have got really big detractors as well as big fans they both really flawed that's been one of their characteristics they both have got big critics inside their own parties as well as externally but there's no question that the Labor Party knows they do have in the polls by their side as much as we should pay attention to them you know they do have a problem around a lot of the public's attitude to the leader they just they do conservatives have their own problems with Boris Johnson is a big part of the picture right Winston of the Liberal Democrats what a day she had yesterday 1st of all should. Swarmed by a litter of protest protesters dressed as bees then she got stung by Andrew Neil like this the central pitch which you launched this campaign on that you would reverse breaks it without a 2nd referendum that falls away since that needed the Lib Dems majority government . Well we've set very clearly that we want to stop right there and every scenario how we will try to do that and obviously we will keep campaigning for a people's vote right only if you are comfortable with that no you because because since you've admitted you you won't fold and he's going to go but it looks like that's the more the more likely revoke Article 50 and stop bricks without a river and we always said that we would want to do so through democratic means whether that was through an election or whether it's through a people's vote on the specific break that deal Liberal Democrats have led that campaign we came I immediately after the 2016 referendum and said we thought the specific break that you should be put to the public for a final say I will tell you so is your 2nd referendum are you looking for or not we'd like a little say on the specific breaks that deal so interesting it comes to the idea of a 2nd referendum you would assume that you know that leaders are on the edge of their seat waiting for that to happen so that you know this could be revoked a nicely it's a mixed picture if the if there was to be a 2nd referendum and. Would decide to stay in the e.u. That would be accepted but the idea of us always hovering by the door the idea of a 2nd referendum which would just be in remains favor that is something that the e.u. Really doesn't relish So I think you know it is sort of assuming that a breakfast is going to happen if there is a majority Conservative government they will just push to get on and get this deal ratifies that doesn't mean there is it being interpreted in some circles that's what the e.u. Wants it just it wants to be able to move on with the rest of its life if you like or be used Yeah we not it's interesting that because I suppose the perception and in quite a lot of British politicians is still the actually use of wishes this wouldn't happen and they would jump at the opportunity for another referendum. I mean you can hear you know Chinese player for example actually sort of actively suggesting this should be a hung parliament so he gets another referendum fascinating is here actually that you know the other side of the chair. Some people might think oh for goodness sake why didn't you just go on with after all. Right let's go to Nicholas sturgeon Here's her again the grilling the leader of this m.p. This thing stands a korban government promising a 2nd break that referendum is your best hope and I hope that any government is elected and you're right that it's more likely to be if it's a minority Liberal government would give the whole u.k. The opportunity to skate directed by the fundamental to this for me is that any party that is looking to the s.n.p. For support has to be prepared to respect the right of the people of Scotland to choose their own future and that means respecting the rate of the Scottish Parliament so chooses to have an independent referendum and I suppose the thing that Nicholas sturgeon and Joe Swenson have in common with each other is that throughout the election campaign we've been scrutinizing them for what influence they would have. On the government's probably Jeremy Corbett minority government rather than seeing them necessarily as players in the room right Laura and what maybe what their price and their yes supporting them would be Yeah I mean what we have not done is what is the sort of game everyone played in 2015 when it was always looks like a hung parliament which ways are going to go who would work with who but what you can't find anybody or maybe nearly anybody who would say it could be a Tory majority or labor comfortable with Dorothy is basically well all the polls suggesting where all the politicians expect themselves is that the Tories will be the biggest party but they might not get a majority so therefore it is relevant to ask the Lib Dems and there how they would work with labor would they work with labor would they where it was Jeremy Corbyn would they back anyone for the promise of another referendum and that is kind of both of them of even talked about it themselves Nicholas Sargent's talked about it very willingly she's talked about how she might hold the balance of power and of course her price would be another independence for a friend of his called at some point in the future and then you have to since I'm being asked by Andrew Neil in the same interview oh you'd support labor for another referendum on Bragg's it but what if the price of that was allowing another referendum in Scotland to oppose and you realize everyone gets tied up in knots very quickly in that scenario Yeah they really do I mean I can't see clearly a mechanism for somehow making that all work in a matter of days after the election result in 8 days time so people might say and some people are actively campaigning to have a hung parliament I can't see how you get from a hung parliament to suddenly having clarity about heading to another referendum and all of these different motivations and elements somehow you know fall into place in a straightforward way doesn't mean they wouldn't but I can see how you do it in a kind of you know a to b. To c. To d. And all the way through till you get to said. You know this and you guys in there why it's all been said some of the other day and I hadn't thought of it in these terms before talked about it being an asymmetric election by which they meant in terms of how we judge winners and losers afterwards the finishing line if you like for Boris Johnson is quite a bit further ahead than it is for Jeremy Corbyn because the boys don't answer when he has to win an overall majority you see talking what I don't know if it's going if the numbers are going to be enough to sustain him maybe about 330 something like that maybe a bit more for Germany hoping to kind of weigh in just to deny Boris Johnson a majority and then who knows if he might be able to assemble some sort of some sort of government over to look at overall majority he could get it but that sense that the kind of in inverted commas winning post is kind of in different places for the 2 of them and when you throw that into the mix alongside the in Pena polls and where they are and where they may be tight in the last few days or not suddenly you realize the extent to which yes you know despite what so many polls and headline side is there's a huge bounce playful. It's interesting though because a different wise old bean and there is more than one in the political universe was so saying to me as she when you look at the could append of history Tories have been in for nearly 10 years 9 years they've been squeezing public spending the fact that they are the ones who are more likely to get a majority in historical terms is kind of sink but you know Everyone's got different finishing lines that says very politically correct doesn't it what is your finishing line all everyone has a different issue. And one thing wrong with that and then the speculation about how big a majority Boris Johnson would need to to survive the trade negotiations with the e.u. It will never potentially politically tricky deal is the end product of that right there was a news story today about the Braggs Party a group of Bragg's Party members of the European Parliament don't vote for our party the Braggs a party for the conservatives which puts Nigel Farage the biggest party leader in this slightly tricky position again with Master inquisitor Andrew Neil. Of your m e P's a week before polling day have resigned and said book tour let's go let's just run through that Rick Whitley one of them is the sister of a cabinet minister. Heigl one of them is a sister a cabinet minister the other one has a boyfriend working for that communist a fact I don't know what is a personal friend of Boris Johnson as mayor they enjoyed and they Speirs the facts . So yes again the Braggs party's wrong general election 29 team being about not for the brigs party is actually doing self but what effect has basically on conservative candidates now capture this is a blast from the past in the budget process a leak a leaked document from Brussels that's a leaked document that isn't 100 percent document proof if you know it's I mean it's not definitely going No definitely going into you know behind these leaked summit conclusions that you love that always that before the e.u. Summit which will be the day of the election here. Will be for Thursday and Friday there's always a leak about what the leaders are going to conclude because I 70 meetings before hands anyway so when it comes to Brecht's it you can see them again also in a slightly difficult position because they've got to hedge their bets you know will there be a majority for the Conservative Party enough to sort of you know push the deal through parliament and what will that mean for the European Parliament will they have to say earlier than they might want to in order to ratify on the European side and if Labor manages to form some kind of minority government and there's a 2nd referendum they've got to change that stance in the e.u. As well so we've seen things like today whether they need to agree a further general political direction as necessary said depending on on the outcome here I'd say on what their preferences are they are not political at this point obviously you know going back to what we said there earlier the e.u. Which is the said never happened and that the u.k. Was still a very big player in the e.u. Ranks as it is rolling forwards they want the mess to end and they wanted to be clear and move forward really interesting because I suppose at the end of the day you know we all try and divide every single sign as you just said in the end they're going to have to deal with whatever the u.k. System comes up with that they despite all the noises off and all the signs and as we know all the hesitation and doubts they had about having to do a forest Johnson when he was running to be the leader of the Tory party before Doesn't that seem like a 100 years ago. And also. From reading between the lines of those conclusions which which may change I wondered if there's a cut there's a few little references in there to how little time is available is that you preparing to cut a few corners in its normal process and there's loads of speculation amongst Brussels types about will the final product next year be really slim down trade deal that is exclusively negotiated between the u.k. And the European Commission which means it could be signed off at leader level with all the default different parliaments and from Bulgaria support you already so actually you could be much quicker and before you raise people's hopes too much I think the idea of like cutting corners will be very much also in the u.k. Side if the u.k. Is happy to sign up to what the e.u. Asks for in order to get quick quick dirty and dusty dusty or whatever you know just kind of directly but I am just so next year not just a just dirty then you really only then the u.k. Would have to sign away some of that sovereignty as well right I'm going to bring in some special guests the door is going to open and in comes. I'm. John raven's and John Cole shore from dead ringer as. You guys have been probably happens on as well so you can hear Laura and Chris in their respective vans watching the unique production process the slick cast machine so high I. Believe it is very symbolic of the campaign itself rambunctious existence let me tell you this yeah so you guys are going to do a special episode of Dead Ringers basically based on the election result Yes Exactly yeah it's always very exciting what we did the last loss was the referendum and normally we recall Dead Ringers the night before and it gets to the following day and goes out on the Friday night but we have to obviously wait for the results the election so the pool it's kind of. You know way through the night down here yeah we do it but it's really makes the some sort of exciting scripts I mean if feels very sort of like we're part of the new very kind of like when those timings align the lines with the election the writers as you say they started about 3 in the morning looking at the screen seeing what stories are emerging and just writing them out right in the sketches in real time so I've got a bone to pick with those writers I'm with you I think I mentioned this to you before before we came in here you are so funny that you've made me trip over a number of times and I'm learning and I'm listening to you so well my head and I know that I sprained ankle Snow saying as I said if you don't stumble over those notes you write this I was just wondering so if you're right to start writing about 3 30 am that means they'll be writing while we're doing the election program Yeah exactly just imagining well kind of trouble we might be able to either cause or suggest or avoid some had they started sending me their scripts and I started sending them my scripts in the middle of night maybe when things are just getting a bit boring to liven it up a bit so we have to try this do or you're going to be doing a lot of. I think so we assumed he would be binding everything to get the making you know throw he. Might be yes he would see a proper buffed up for the Instagram generation. And I of course being Laura who is like you know the puppet master I mean my theory is that Laura actually kind of has like she's like This is necromancer of news and she creates all these stories she whispers in David Cameron's ear to referendum might be a good idea. To spare a guy full of the story. I want to take this opportunity to. Bring your theory that you are responsible for the Yes There we go because the 2nd you know. I completely and utterly deny any suggestion that I would ever enjoy a news story I would never say any president such as. Any or any adrenaline or any excitement after having the privilege to cover historic an enormous political event . That really comes across that you're hating every minute. That no one did not wash it all now. Could it be it's actually Chris Mason who's been orchestrating all of this well it might be it might be an impersonation character. A way to to get some time to put an impersonation together like making a cake so from one side if we have Professor Brian Cox and that sort of Toad conveyed facts you know on the other side if you have. And then sort of mix them together sort of have the sense that Christie reflects about how we all feel about everything and it's really rather lovely. And I wish I could see this as well because I'm wondering you know do they look John to do the looking down Chris is looking down. John I don't know if you could have any of our Yes. I was actually looking down I don't know if you did might. Well I don't well I don't know how it looks because I've only ever had on the radio so well like forward to seeing later if you also just look a bit more mental as the day goes on very very quietly very very mental very driven very very hard you know very hard line yeah it's wonderful to witness as a fellow right. When John impersonate you Laurie that you're just standing on top of the mountain making some great proclamation. 'd And also there's there's one sketch where it said where this is a Harry Met Sally thing where it's kind of you know everything is in total disarray and I'm loving it oh yes yes yes and it just goes to you know like a different kind of sketch I also get that it is it's very very much you know I. And then Hugh says what she's having. I think Laura's actually got to go I hasten to say if you're going to have any of that kind of smarts on it I am going to get another to speculation because my lovely team is standing outside going like this because I have to go and catch change so when I get out. 'd of the clarity you bring to complexity Yeah right who is stood out for you politician wise in this election campaign and that's just an excuse to make you do some impressions I think probably under new. The interview that people want to avoid they think yes no and there you have it. Yeah sometimes it is true that you know that the people presenting the news are good selves included are actually far more impressive than the people you know the politicians themselves I mean you know like Emily made you know will continue to be domiciled by my fierce intelligence and my showing. You know. Because you work of course because you're you know who's always you know more on that story later and actually I'm really impressed with Kat Yeah I mean you know catcher is to me kind of a bit like us do you walk in that you know you're too sort of you know you're too impressive to do in person because even when sort of so you articulate and so you sort of you know they you all freezing your tits off outside somewhere. You know you know with your lipstick still in your little cheeks and it's just a I mean I'm sort of like amazed I'm stunned and always there's so much more articulate making so much more sense than the politicians who you know like just just went on this it just went so this is kind of real story this election because she's so young and everybody's been saying oh she's like a schoolgirl which I find sort of slightly you know is that sexist is that insulting you know. Yes Yes exactly but she does have that sort of she sort of sounds like well what did you say about her. Solutions if you thought of it in the school choir in 1008. You know she's she's she's like that look you know look you know look and she just keeps saying look you know look yes you know look I voted yes look you know and it's sort of like she's she's on a bit of a leap and I think she's one of those people that will you know she's going to get like you know the video training she's going to be schooled she's going to be realizing she says you know and look too much and look at sort of and if she still if you accidentally around I mean who knows John we're looking forward to the had to had Boris Johnson Jeremy Corben hosted by Nick Robinson could you do all 3 and one 0 yes now that So Ok So probably the stuff Boris Johnson you got trust issues people are finding it very difficult to trust you how are you going to put that right well. Let me just say and I will I will take all my Neandertal stoop as I do say and I will speak with a plus read a great rate of knots and with Cuba put in for the suitable distractions and leave little time for you to answer proper questions and that is how I die I will get through this if it Ok Thank you Mr Johnson Mr Cool been you finally apologized over and she said because of the other day to Phillip Schofield Yes of course obviously I did that and of course I could be holding in a lot of very intense sort of rage like this I'm trying to not not like an instrument or a normal month on the parcel shelf of the markets my not so I thank you for your support I say thank you to the membership I say thank you for the music the songs on. Both me because you don't see yourself you know you do the same not you m. Body your character is as well as the voice it's wonderful to watch you know I know you sort of have to because you know it's in time. And then I'm not going to nail and I'm not but those are the ones that made me fall over when I was running there so. Yeah the 2 of them together was it was quite was a joy. I mean to do contestants. You just have to sort of imagine it's just nice not. Because it was. You know. I mean she's just a demi she's been keeping quite quiet actually Hannity of course in this lot used to be Andrew Neil and Diane Abbott and how do you think they're reacting when they sat home together watching the replacement watching this. All started supporting cast wasn't oh yeah this probably missing the little that. That seemed to get a little a little time went by and she put you know we were very coy very very current. Because I think that's what a great episode of Gogglebox that would make that was to if that was to happen Chris you just had a live impression of you built block by block I didn't actually feel I was just bluff should I do the footage Well I there was a bushing but I was looking down as I was. Pointed out but I always looked out which I kind of was aware that I did but not quite as when I was lower It was frightening John every household and every Christmas dinner there will be some smart like who thinks they can do a Boris Johnson impression or the keys to. The 2 speeds to. Do the polite statesman like the and when he really takes off Lewis Macleod jumps in he takes to us to convey boys I think what he probably might be always have your hands I did with that is what problems away or trying to beg for help try to take the risk you. Slightly ruffle up the hair Remember get bricks down. Take. In that control Mark to say those phrases and it's a little bit of Latin and people have talked about how the chap outside the Beano who says Cripes and. Distract with bumbling The Da da. John do you have a problem that there are no 2 prominent Scottish women from the west coast of Scotland Yes it is a bit of a problem I know it was 3 including Laura Yes yes Laura's got a slight sort of slight sort of she's got something of a sort of twist on it somehow whereas Nicholas Starr Jones thought she's she's sort of like you know you want some you know it's like she's like oh we'll hold Maybach oh my but before I lock up somebody and Nicholas Johnson does that thing as whale of a saint she waiting of sellable with a note about hate she's We sort of like that and just Winston is I mean she's like a work in progress but she's she's like a sort of she's got a higher she's got like a register like a high a pitch so it but yes I would want to do a sketch like John just and with my still going to please I mean do that and presumably having Donald Trump here in our backyard was great for this for you this week I think we're starting to see the pattern whenever he doesn't know something you'll say we'll have to wait and see what the final facts are we'll wait and see you know I'm sure bars will do. Jeremy Corey been I don't really know him even though I've said I know him before and. I really don't know but I love being here it's a very wonderful country Nigel for great to see you Nigel for you know Scaramucci Bannon's gun Sean Spicer is gone you're the only creepy friend I have with. Another the gift that keeps on taking. It's quite good to sort of play and really and just sort of try and you know that these hand gestures which punctuate them as though you're having a game of darts but not trying very hard it's been very. The sense of. You know the macron and Doris and Princess Anne and Mr Trudeau sort of gossiping about him and there he was with that it's very terrible he's 2 faced I'm going. That's not exaggerated with him and told this is truly having fields he became he stayed a toddler his entire life yeah as a petulant mouth as me very much like some sort of tropical fish waiting to be said . Can you say you your favorite political characters at the moment. I. Our writers rather because they do speak a linsey Hoyle order order or. Going to be great to have him he's one for the future there's no doubt. Bars and Trump are so recognizable but they are great crowd pieces and they get that instant reaction you tend to do those the part of any comedy routine so you kind of Congo wrong with them the just characters out of the Mike Yarwood mode of impersonations really on the course I've been I've been missing to reason because she's not just sitting on the back benches not getting noticed not easy as you think you know. And you know I mean people are saying oh my god you but you must mysteries is so much nicer going well no I was actually glad she went she just seemed to be getting you know she just wouldn't stop you know I must go on you know inching slowly forward like a slug crawling a video edge of a glass of beer I know oblivion beckons but I must go forward into the beer the sweet beer I can drown in she was just all about the tension the way she was so held there was no sort of play in her at all it was all about the tensions like she she wanted to smile but the rest of my face wouldn't let. It just look like the whole thing was a nightmare I hope it wasn't as much of a nightmare as it looked right we've got to go just remind us there's a lot of that you have to please the loads of tired ringers to come as it was the Christmas specials this is a short series of 3. But there's I think a Christmas special Yes Christmas special the elections elections special on the on the 13th self and a review of the decade as well Title $10.00 to 2020. 5 it's about. Exhausted from having only a few needs an exorcism at the end of it to get Lee's characters out by this I mean it's. Christmas that they start you know I mean all work is. I think right that's it from us and you guys want to say goodbye in the characters of Laura and Chris because we've lost them both. See you later thank you for listening and yeah we agree with you yeah well no doubt be back before you can even blink because I never offer I never offer I'm always always on and I'll be here until the end of time giving my analysis bots that here's another big thing cope with 98 layers of thermals good night. Where we. Assume the. Enemy. Is just. A 6. But there. a bad too. 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