The Christmas than this one the weather there were forecast last week I saw of snow for today vitally certainly around Belfast and a good thing anywhere I've heard of snow has has happened in 530 in the bench and. They are as what I'm saying I haven't been in the days I can't say but the soul is often the weather not bad in Belfast is cleared up by the numbers of people actually eligible to vote well you were saying earlier on but what we can and cannot say it's a very odd day for anyone covering elections paid to cover politics in this country . Between the hours of 7 and 10 we're limited into what we can say and just because we somehow I managed to. Persuade anyone to vote in a certain direction even though we don't mean to do so so we're very very very carefully we can't just give we should go over the figures for Forget the number of people eligible it think constituencies in Northern Ireland 102 candidates chasing the it 10 seats and we've had 2 elections this year already and for Europe and for local government there are very different types of election there were Peor elections where you had the mark wanted 345 whatever done the card this one of course is different as 1st past the post you can only go for one candidate and you mark your the ballot paper with an x. Beside that candidate's name and number of people eligible to vote in Northern Ireland is up this time for the last. Westminster election was was Engine 2017 up 551273 to a new figure now is get this wrong 1000000 293971 there's been a rise in each of our teen constituencies the greatest increases in registration have been for the who are $4022.00 extra voters are on the register north Belfast then comes next with 3976 extra voters and so it's Belfast $3870.00. 9 extra voters and the smallest growth was in North under Bristol an impressive 1477 people added to the register and you mention you just put an x. By Condit of choice and if you put anything else you're likely to spoil the ballots as well as they say counted I don't are they judge well I'm not absolutely certain but I think if you put a one provided you put say one count it I think that I'm risking things here of people Graham's as Rokeby told I'm wrong here my understanding is in the book you make and then if you make a clear mark as to the counted it you favor I think you're all right but no comments for those guys but there's no reason why any where you wouldn't be done in x. Of you know what's going to be a next Absolutely and the other thing before you get to that point with your ballot in the box in the booth you need an id to prove who you are yes everyone will devote hopefully all of everyone will have received a polling card a white pulling card through the post in the past few weeks that is for information purposes only and is not acceptable id so but you should bring it with you but Ed alone will not get you permission to vote and the following id documents are accepted a u.k. Irish or European driving license a u.k. Irish or e.u. Passport an electoral identity card Translink Sr smart to pass a Translink 60 plus smart pass or Translink war disable smart pass and last but not least Translink blind person's smart ass Ok bring one of them along be eligible to vote and finally how can people follow it I know that Seamus and Karen a preparing themselves for an overnight sort of radio program but we were on b.b.c. And radio on televisions radio radio and television on b.b.c. Northern Ireland really was right through the night the news to have to do that because we didn't used to come. Overnight in Northern Ireland we were always the last of the regions to current remember. So it doesn't for some reason was pretty often the last constituency in the whole in the whole of the u.k. To declare sometime around late Friday afternoon no more we die do have overnight kinds on the lucky people will be going to various cunts centers. And various parts of Northern Ireland to watch start their process through the night last time round a few one of them are going to get some action I can tell you that in 2017 north Don was the 1st Northern Ireland constituency to declare about Tempest one would seem very quick and the last not a great Sunderland they get in by about 11 is enough I think they start cutting it's. Kind of a real yes there. Are a little bit more city it but we have suddenly come on home force the European Armada they have to beat the record of being lost last time because people didn't get a result until 24 minutes past 4 but as you say if you've got Stahmann afford an interest for it you can follow it right through the night here and indeed right through the day tomorrow care thank you very much. And you get the exit poll right about 10 o'clock that's always a good indicator and then it's on through the night results from right across the United Kingdom. A figure print expert has told the High Court in London there is quote absolutely no question whatsoever unquote that John Dani's fingerprints are on car park tickets linked to they are a bomb in Hyde Park in 1982 have affairs correspondent Julian a nail reports from the court today is on the line now and Julian were talking 37 years ago not so take us back to that day in 1982 and what happened. 20th of July in 190237 years ago as you say one of the bloodiest days of the ira campaign in London 2 separate things with multiple fatalities the 1st thought they is the one we're concerned with at Hyde Park when at 10 43 am a bomb on a car was detonated by remote control 16 soldiers of the household cavalry rode to the changing of the guard ceremony and Whitehall the bomb was a partial 125 pints of commercial explosives of a type used in quarrying and packed with the similar way it all 4 and 6 inch nails which in the explosion were like arrows designed to inflict as much carnage as possible but 4 soldiers died scored when quartermaster Corporal Roy bright left tenant Denis Daley trooper Simon temper Lance Corporal Jeffrey Young and it is his daughter Sarah Jane Young who has brought this civil case which concluded today against John Dani So what happened to gold today. Today was dominated by the central element of the civil case fingerprint evidence 5 prints were recovered from 2 car park tickets issued and of the bomb car amourous Marina these tickets were handed in payment kiosks when the car left 2 car parks in central London in the immediate days and ours leading up to the bombing a fingerprint expert Stephen Hughes examined them and compared them to prints taken from John Donny when he was arrested by the Metropolitan Police in 2013 as part of his criminal prosecution which collapsed due to Mr Danis on the wrong matter Mr Hughes said he had absolutely no question whatsoever they were a match though the q.c. Representing the soldier's family said it was common sense that someone involved in the car's movements was a principle party to the attack on the ass a judge so therefore find that Mr Di knew he was convicted of fire. Membership in Ireland in the 1970 s. Was a party to the unlawful killings of 4 soldiers at Hyde Park in 1900 Julian just remind us why this is a civil case rather than a criminal one. All because the criminal prosecution claps and 2014 due to the on the wrong letter issued an error to Mr dining I following lot the soldiers' families fought for and eventually won legally it at the 6th time of asking allying them to bring this case against Mr Darnay on this part of the process they had tea and material which the police had gathered for the criminal prosecution namely the fingerprint evidence Mr Downey. We got a slot has denied any involvement. Just Julian we're having a little bit of trouble here your lines going down could you just start that last sentence if you're hearing me. I think that's a Judas gone. But you got the thrust of it what's going on in court today John Downey denied any involvement I think he was going to go on to say that. God wanted Julian O'Neill coming up with a program of talking about parking fines shortly how to appeal if you feel you've been treated unfairly that's an interesting one and so we've all been there at some point or other let's go to Elaine to check on the traffic and travel situation well I've got the usual rush hour keys on the motorway and on the upswing at nights or out on the set in bypasses while it's busy in both directions on chromic straight on the by chair road and on the West Bank I am buying a greyscale remains closed after a crash this is causing long period Brian Spring Road and on different. Lines going down to our weather because he's with me in the studio barrow you well not Connor bracing myself for some cooler air heading our way Ok over the few days next few days in fact we even have sleet and snow in the forecast but mainly for the hills in the mountain so don't get too excited I grind it looks though and I think about 350 meters will see some wintry Shari's on Friday night overnight into Saturday with a few showers remaining around on Saturday before them the same thing on tonight if he shares remaining Iran one of 2 could be when you have the high grind tomorrow a cool day northwesterly wind will drive in some scattered showers but in between the shores there will be some sunshine with highs of 5 or 6 degrees snow snow over the tops of the hills and mountains I would say very festive a little bit on the way on it. Ok thank you very much now let's get a reminder of the day's headlines here's Keith voting in the general election in Northern Ireland is generally quite busy the polls will close 10 o'clock tonight the Red Cross says hunger caused by drought in southern Africa is threatening the lives of 11000000 people across the region and the authorities in New Zealand are Jews start an operation to retrieve the. Bodies of at least it people killed when the volcano erupted on Monday thanks Keith now as I was saying earlier have you in a park somewhere only to receive a fine for staying too long or because you mistyped your registration into a ticket machine maybe that's one of the pitfalls private parking companies operate throughout northern and managing sites on behalf of landowners the fines that is you on to enforce will by the police or local authorities but since May motorists ignore the nod to being able to appeal to the parking. Figures released to b.b.c. News line show that 40 percent of such appeals have been successful so it sounds like it's well worth appealing if you feel you've got a case the Consumer Council says it has successfully appeal hundreds of fines a clerical error which a Londonderry man says he made but later corrected has left him with 13000 pounds worth of fines start our business reporter Richard Morgan has been speaking to him and others who are trying to appeal their farts. I thank you declaration agency letters continuously from them and there's no movement either way and it just feels very stressful l. And Devlin's a company pays to rent his parking space in London dairy from a smart parking he got a new car but he supplied the incorrect registration Fortunately I've made a mistake at that wrong when I entered on the prove last company that runs it's more Park and had centered bells and cars to me. But the key is so the 1st I knew avoid the interim stickers about a month afterwards brought the attention of my Saudi's manager after some time he realized that the mistake and had his manager supplied the correct details all the while his company had continued to pay to rent the parking space but the finds kept coming at the end of this whenever I contacted them because my car was a pretty account of the time when I did this for me that there is a fine art style and 13 toys and part in car park and I can park on their annoy I can park in any of the 30 smart park and car parks or Northern Ireland but their car parking spots themselves are paid for I don't see out on any wrongdoing apart from clerical error I can't see how they would legitimately a lawyer both to get to that level private charge notices or P.C.'s are essentially invoices which are issued when companies deem there to be a breach of contract or when you find these companies retail parks shopping centers and car parks dotted or rind tines cities or 5 mi and companies which operate across Northern Ireland the kinds of things that we see in Northern Island off very similar American system with the kind of things that we see in all the territories that we work in which includes challenges to whether or not the signage was clear conspicuous legible we see challenges from motorists who have paid or made. The stakes when entering vehicle registrations or displaying the ticket on the dashboard since May motorists from Northern Ireland have been to appeal these fines to the parking on private land appeal service it has told us it is overturned 40 percent of the $190.00 appeals it has received Craig innocent is from in Northern Ireland. The driver would be responsible for a notice so what that means is the driving parked the car and subsequently the one who enters the contract with the parking company. And subsequently any allegation of a breach of contract comes from the take it that was printed from a has the single letter to. My understanding as a. U.k. Registration form Dez Bryant has been fighting his p.c. And for some time he says he paid his money entered his registration bought the ticket printed in correctly he has shown me the tickets pretty surprised when you are receiving a fine very surprised I displayed my ticket on the dashboard of the car as you would normally do but. I just assumed it was a clerical error so I submitted a paper to them supplied a copy of my ticket. Behold from them they've been refusing to match the take up issued to me to my car registration but the fine is not increased from 60 points up to 170 points and this is all over a 6 point. Stay in the car park so I find it difficult. A car parking company that relies on vehicle number recognition. With an invalid u.k. Registration form I think the best piece of advice I can give motorists is if you're ever going to park on any private car park make efforts to look out for signs ensure that you read and understand those signs and what's expected of you if you're going to make any payments when you're asked when. Motorists who track and double tracked they've answered that correctly for committing to anything. Yeah a lot of you listen to this program at the wheel of your cars and found that very interesting the parking company featured in Richard's piece that smart parking didn't get back to any of our requests when we asked them for a response but I can tell you that as of this morning Alan Devlin's finds totaling that astonishing 13000 pounds have been canceled so we're joined now by Mark Crawford from the north Consumer Council happy days rather than Devlin Anyway it's how he does an extreme example but I mean there are a lot of disputes on them as well the case of Alan is an extreme example but let's be clear up wasn't going to be cleared only the consumer countries became involved in the b.b.c. Have probably highlighted that today we've come to the to come but what if we hadn't become unfold without it being cleared. How did you how did you sort of go about sort of pursuing his case then what happens well the situation is new to the consumer country in the last 12 months we've assisted 1500 consumers and we have appealed almost 203000 pounds worth of fines so when we get a case like I'm going to not straight forward just we know what the situation is and we go forth and appeal it this scenario was quite extreme 13000 pardons is a bit ridiculous somebody's money let's be honest you know it's it's deplorable quite frankly but when we did a Payless and we put forward the case and his own company confirmed that they pay for the space and they confirmed that he is the driver and I was his vehicle they still refused to rescind the charge so the consumer confidence had to go to the landowner and the landowner here employed these companies to work on their behalf and it's becoming a wider problem in Northern Ireland it's affected all kinds of consumers not just clerical errors that has happened here it's affecting consumers for shop and at retail parks at shopping centers on a park for example for over 4 hours They're not be in charge whereas in the past and for a number of years when the been loyal customers they've never been charged so consumers are being caught right there's an education and education patients have to be put across here to make consumers a word of this but there's also an appeal across higher limits on shop car parks. Sort of take away food car parks people aren't necessarily aware of the laws that are applying on these private car parks I mean how can you tell for instance if fines are enforceable by the police or local authorities for instance but we know that parking on private land it's not enforceable by local authorities or the place we absolutely knew that the problem we have as it's new to Northern Ireland consumers who used to go into shopping centers for years of us advertised at a time shop is the way to go there's no hostel is convenient all of a sudden now these charges are coming in and people are not simply not aware of them it is big business isn't it's big business and big business is probably the word we have have the number of fundable elderly distressed anxious consumers contact the consumer Consul is absolutely unbelievable and the one thing which actually compiles the whole issue is the when they do your pay legitimately and when they can demonstrate that they have been legitimately shopping and they have receipts it's a serial tolerance approach and that's not acceptable it gives new consumer confidence in the process and it gives the consumer consul new confidence in the process because we want to work with companies who are fair and in the company we work we work with well hold our hands up but there is a mistake but that's not the only serious how did the piece that Richard did I mean there was advice to look out for any signs keep your eyes peeled where the a parking or car but if you missed something or you get into trouble what should people do if they receive a fine and they feel that it is unjustified anybody who receives a fine should contact the consumer consul in the 1st instance are services free or free phone numbers we have 101-2160 Doubletree as I say we've assisted over 1500 simmers with appeared 103000 pounds worth of charges and no papa have a 40 percent success rate which is honorable but I can tell you now the consumer kinds of success rate as in the ninety's and it's a modest loans that are pretty good I mean I want to what is the basis of your appeals that so successful one of the grounds you challenge is be the drawings we challenge as the law in Northern Ireland differs from that in g.b. So in g.p. Any fine goes to the owner of the. Vehicle in Northern Ireland you have to prove or demonstrate who the driver was not particular day so the consumer kind of appears on behalf of consumers just in the legislation in Northern Ireland and that's why we've been fairly successful because the companies who are very often national companies are applying a similar law to what they apply across the water which isn't appropriate Here's exactly it's a blanket approach and the consumer appears biggest on the legislation here in Northern Ireland were as popular approaches that as a say in a widespread manner the g.b. Model and we've been very successful and we would encourage anybody who receives a parking notice to contact the consumer consul it's a free service there's no commission There's no question and you're pretty careful about talking yourself about Mark if you've done all this work on behalf of other people you're very aware I'm very aware of it