It's lovely to hear your voice there Chris how's it looking. While the media center is enormous like a massive aircraft hangar. Here yet but it's looking fantastic though the place is a little bit. Where they've got in store for us today good morning Simon Good morning on the mild start today for many parts of the U.K. We got some clouds and rain affright from the far north of Scotland where there Brian up here in northern areas $12.00 to $14.00 degrees but another warm and sunny day most of. The stuff showing staying with us this morning's money news. Can Brian at really get away with not paying compensation 224000 passengers affected by strike action tomorrow which is late 250 flights being canceled and when Rachel joins us off the 630 will give you an update about oh I was reluctant to go with the name it's been given a name the way old it's in the Thames Benny the balloon go. Yeah it's going to pass anyway if you gave it the name but you know how these things work and also what's it like if a picture of you becomes an Internet meme if it goes everywhere all around the world tens of thousands of people sharing it all of that stuff one couple in Edinburgh will tell us. This is B.B.C. 5 my 27th of September is 2 minutes past 6 and the news you're waking up to this morning figures seen by 5 Live suggest many crimes in England and Wales are being committed by the same people data from 27 forces show 270 suspects were charged with more than 6 and a half 1000 offenses in 2016 The government says it's jailing the most serious offenders while also focusing on the root causes of crime one of the suspects wanted over the Soulsby poisoning this is reported to be a decorated Russian colonel the journalism website Belling Katz says the man previously known as risk of is in fact Anatoly chippy got this reporter who doesn't want to be named worked on the story. We talked to some sources in the Russian military who on the condition of anonymity told us that they are shocked by the fact that Colonel and especially a decorated colonel was sent to do what they consider a field job that is suitable for a captain and this in their opinion suggests that job was requested at the highest level ambulances should not be seen as a taxi to a in a report for the N.H.S. In England is suggesting that more patients should be treated at the scene it's claimed this would save money as well as reduce pressure on hospitals generally Colvin is heading to Brussels later for talks to the E.U.'s chief negotiator Michel Barnier it comes after he said the Labor Party could not support to resume AIDS Checkers plan in its current form and President Trump says he could withdraw his nominee for the Supremes course if he's found guilty of sexual misconduct 3 women have now come forward to make allegations against Brett Kavanaugh he denies the claims so I hope you're well on this Thursday morning great to have you with us it's 5 live with Chris war but said Rachel will be with us at just after half past 6 and really interesting story to talk about throughout the program as our lead story this morning figures seen by 5 Live revealing the extent to which crimes are repeatedly being committed by the same few people in fact just 270 people we're talking about here which charged with more than 6 and a half 1000 offenses in 2016 these and most up to date figures that we've got on this but gives you a clear idea of the problem the data comes from a Freedom of Information requests to police forces in England and Wales 5 laws row in bridge has been looking at the data speaking to an offender those trying to tackle the problem as well you've been all over this story good morning bro and when I was sort of crimes of people being charged with repeatedly 1st off the most common things you see are offenses like burglary shoplifting as you say the figures are based on responses from 27 forces in England and Wales there were 16 that didn't get back to us with an average sponsors from Northern Ireland. And often Police Scotland as you say this is a snapshot of one year's figures but they are in fact in line with the previous year as well OK as I say you've been speaking to everybody involved in this story pretty much haven't you and you've been speaking in particular to one prolific offender really interesting because this is someone who's been in and out of prison numerous numerous times yeah her name is nickel or Whitbread she is a self-confessed prolific shoplifter she admitted to me that she had shoplifted 150 times because of a drug habit she had just to give you some background to Nicholas she had been assaulted by a violent partner she was attacked with a hammer to their head she ended up taking heroin to deal with some of the issues she faced the night terrors and so on all of this led to a sort of downward spiral and she ended up shoplifting to pay to from a heart she's been in and out of jail as you say $8.00 times the 1st time she was jailed was in 2006 most recently in March of this year one point she says she was released from jail just before Christmas got released 2 weeks before Christmas with 46 pounds. And no benefits until after Christmas from so from the instant I got released I would start right in that very day you came out of jail and immediately went shoplifting again I mean you knew that you were going out there to immediately break the law again I mean why go and break the law again you know what's going to happen what I was her mother or what else could have done what I have what would I think myself how would our political my lecture mater how could I have you know how would I have survived how could I have had credit on my mobile phone to ring probation to ring the doctor to ring the benefit system to get my benefits and how would our dental if. So did you go to the author to ask them for how do you go. And you just you're told the same thing every time you have to wait your benefit it's going to be up to 2 weeks you know what you could do for 2 weeks. Off 46 pound for you understood the impact of what you were having impacted on everybody else who shot to most stores that are meant higher prices for other people as well I mean that in time I would lie all the time that didn't that but that that didn't really affect me at all I could think about was getting the money to get my drugs to make me feel better to continue with what I now following in that interview with Nick largely I asked the Ministry of Justice about what they say now they say that prisoners can make an appointment with the Department of Work and Pensions on the day of release if they need to and they can claim up to a month's benefits up front which will be paid on that right now as with all these stories we look at the figures you know that's how we talk about it when we introduce you and then we talk you know what I was going to do about it the prison sentences all of that and we'll get into all of that but look at the heart of these stories has to be the people who have been victims of these crimes because for some people when that happens to them life will never be the same again and I think that's the key thing around some of this stuff is that it really is devastating for people who are victims of some of these crimes so burglary for example is another one where you see coming up a lot and that is devastating for some people Amanda Blakeman is the Deputy Chief Constable of West Mercia Police He's also the national policing lead for burglary She says the effects of it can be long lasting. Impact of a huge and a feeling of not feeling safe in their premises a feeling of wondering whether or not their premises has been and observation whether or not the offender is going to come back whether or not they're safe whether or not their family is safe and all of those failings are ones that are offenders will be responsible for in the impact of their behavior and it is really detrimental it takes quite a long time for victims of burglary to get past the point of not feeling frightened in their own home so I don't underestimate for one minute the impact that it has. Right so when someone is out of prison so they've gone in what is meant to happen to those people particularly if they are prolific offenders Rhone so it will depend on the individual in Nicholas case what happens there is pretty typical which is that you are assigned a probation officer when you come out to help you on your release the Nicholas says it wasn't actually very effective they couldn't help with their financial problems she had difficulties accessing drugs services and even when she went to probation appointments she would lie anyway or go to the right I walk in the light is in across the desk of me doesn't know anything about me and that's not her fault she's got the quirk load She says Every think OK I say yes he says OK then there's your point the next week I can be in an application in about 4 minutes so in less that person wants to talk about what's going on in their lives the probation quite happy just to sign the main sign him out just to get them to get the turnover as quickly as possible. Partly your responsibility then to be honest with them about the situation if it is but people who put it would be an advocate to being somebody who's come from jail you'll know you're naturally used to hiding things because you're a criminal you've got to hide here if they had to you know you'd you guess it takes a while to build up trust you know I do believe that the probation service should perhaps press a little bit more spend a little bit more time getting to know their clients find out what makes them tick see what other problems or other assistance can be available I mean I've had absolutely no help from providers whatsoever none at all now the government say that the community rehabilitation companies which have taken over much of the probation more than England Wales they've actually reduce the number of people really offended overall and they say more people are being supervised and have been previous If this small number of people who are committed in the you know disproportionately high number of crimes are they treated differently you know are some repeat offenders poor. Under a greater degree of C.E.O. Vision so this will depend on the individual and it will be decided locally as to what you do with them but some of them will end up on what's called an I.O.M. An integrated offender management program and the idea is that these people in general will have multiple issues so it might be as an Nicholas place issues with drugs but they may have problems with housing with employment with relationships and you try and deal with the idea is to try and deal with the root causes you try and sort out some of those issues so that they don't go back to offending again but there is a bit of carrot and stick so it might also be for example I've known cases where drug dealers have been put on and I am but they are tagged and they're on a curfew so there's carrot and stick you know we're going to hold you to these standards but we're going to try and help you and how often is there a link to drugs I mean I don't know if you've got that through all of the figures but anecdotally through the people you've spoken to Anecdotally I would suggest that's quite common if you look at a lot of these burglaries or theft I suspect I'm not a police officer but certainly from the people I've spoken to a lot of this seems to be funding source of drug habits and that kind of thing OK so the sort of things you're talking about the I.O.M. Says you described are they are they working is there any evidence that does the job Yes So this is where you get into a sort of tricky area about how effective are these schemes West Midlands Police estimate their schemes saved something like 41000000 pounds in a year in terms of crimes that were committed in Kent some figures they gave me for their community rehabilitation company they estimated it cut re offending rates by something like 80 percent the government carried out their own assessment of to these I.O.M. Schemes and basically said you couldn't say definitively one way or the other if they were having a positive impact or not having said all of that all those people I spoke to from the police service the probation everybody who's involved in trying to tackle these people say this is the only thing that is going to actually work that trying to lock people up for longer might work in the short term you get my. The street but they will go back to afterwards but there is clearly no sort of silver bullet on this very interesting moment thank you very much if we can speak to someone who's been involved in rehabilitation I think actually just for you go rogue it's the one of the people who works with network I think isn't it yes and actually one of the points they make is we come across so many different people and a lot of the time it depends if they want to be rehired I think that is absolutely crucial and that was something that came across from the police was the ultimate Lee this is down to whether that individual really wants to change or not because lots of those people on I.M.'s will go back to reoffend ultimately it's down to the individual OK Ron thank you very much indeed your thoughts very welcome on this one on I 5058 you get in touch on social media don't forget B.B.C. 5 Live on the Facebook page all the usual places 13 minutes past 6 for news and the best blogs this is B.B.C. 5 Live my life right. Here we go the Ryder Cup is almost upon us the Ryder Cup tomorrow and it's worth pointing out if you think in. The Gulf is it really for May It's not just for middle aged men you know and I. Mean come right all right. Even now my favorite player is town where I also have. An event and. They're with us so for she's only 9 she's got a handicap of 24 already not doing badly and Chris large amount sports presenter is in Paris ready and good morning Chris. Camp of 24 I think so if you give me a day since. You want to weigh in on how old are you when you get to the point of having a handicap of 24 they hate you know I went Wow How old are you when you get into the game because of a 4 year old holding a couple supposed member seeing all those pictures of Tiger Woods when he was little with a club so I suppose it can be done Conti But anyway and in the Potter to good. How's it look in there oh yeah we've just seen the great the good of B.B.C. Radio coming in Qana McNemar's. Full day for their interviews today poll Casey told us and we hope to speak to the best of the European saying today and of course the Americans we can't leave them out and just in the next to me and this massive sized media center he's great. Is there a feeling in the city of Paris because of the fact the French on the biggest Go fans in the world necessarily certainly when you compare it to the shores but there is a buzz around Paris that this massive sporting event is on there's a huge buzz coming in to the airport I actually flew in from Dublin and there's many fans coming into Paris so there's a buzz and you can see the gulf branded clothing that they're all wearing there's lots of Americans dotted about the airports as well people still arriving because we don't get underway until tomorrow but I have to say our taxi driver Mohammed last night he asked why we were here we said all Gulf and he said. You know he completely passed him by and he's a taxi driver in the in the Paris region so you know I think a lot of the interest will be coming from paps the rest of continental Europe perhaps Great Britain PAP's America because the French don't actually have a player in Europe they'll get excited when the that's what it will be about this one though that's exactly right I was just saying this Chris I know you're going to explain to us how the Ryder Cup works in just a moment but. Bubba Watson I was seeing here was talking about the Americans struggling with struggling with exhaustion so if you if you're looking for signs of weakness seize the one pretty strongly that you believe in you know I was listening to it with a slightly cynical here but nevertheless you know he's saying a lot of us were kind of get. Sig I want to say half the field had something but you know traveling all the way over here we're all battling something here where you're not by now I'm not blind I mean they haven't made the American team that they would all say something goofy during the interviews and their press conference is that given perhaps maybe that was just what Bubba Watson was told to say he's goofy thing that he could be arsed to say maybe there's no illness it's old but I don't know if there was illness within that U.S. Camp they really let the Europeans know seem strange would seem strange with their so the Ryder Cup yeah you're ready for this we're going to give you a minute just to explain how it works which should be fairly straight forward or 60 seconds 321 GO. The Ryder Cup Well it's Europe against the USA 12 players aside it's unlike normal golf tournament just stroke play and add up all of course so the shots that you've played now the match play so it doesn't matter what you school on each hole you just need to beat your opponent so the 1st team to play just has put on a Sunday the players are on their own said Friday and Saturday mornings it's called goals and in the off the news it's full some days full bowls that each player playing their own a bowl full swims with halfway through a 60 seconds that's 2 balls in play and players will take alternative shots as its best school wins the hole now on Sunday in the singles head to head all 12 players in action you get a single point for winning the match HOF It's level up to 18 holes and you need 28 points to win so 28 points in the cycle 14.52 away and if it's 14 all the holders the USA will retain the Ryder Cup. It was easy when it straightforward for you I had another law and I had to leave I must. Be where I was because you gave us an update on the timing hopefully through the how do you know about what was the problem. What did they find out the pair. Because I don't so will there be some players did this happen with a look around a thing or really hope I don't get with the guy and if that is the case will a captain know about if there's a little bit of something already and I would imagine no I know that in previous years captains have said right on this piece of paper which players you would like to play with and which plays you would not like to play with this is European camp that did this and I think it's been pull McKinley's years Captain and on the one hand side there were players saying OK I'd like to play with Sergio Garcia I quite like to play with the impulse for a quality player Justin Ross and on the other side which plays do you not want to play with every single player left blank which I think is really important you have to have an open mind with absolutely anybody there might be players on the other side that you think are really don't want to play that person would you want to play harder woods with his resurgence winning on Sunday at the top Championship at a strike in Atlanta I'm not so sure but I have to say if you're not certain about whether you want to follow the Ryder Cup do follow me on 5 live because we have every single one of the top 10 golf is in the world in action this week 17 of the world's top 18 and because the difference in match play in struck play aggressive Gulf is the order of the day in stroke play if you play aggressive it can cost you the tournament in match play it will probably only cost you a home and also the Ryder Cup is different as you know if you're somebody already but what about the Open or the most as whatever it might be you know the Ryder Cup is a very different sporting based isn't it I mean it's goal of the elements that ma