The program again on the podcast on the website Tori McKenzie thank you for answering so many questions squeezing so much. For this week from. B.B.C. Radio Star Neil presents the talk. This morning he's on a tour of with Mary Jo. Welcome to the. Series where from here on the shores. It's the. Big mural up there a few. People. You know when I 1st actually heard about it before. But it was with. The very idea kind of. Its my place it. Sort of like in the back. Of the park and it's amazing. People begin to recognize you and it was me. That I know because it's the place that. I really really. Before. People think they can say that I think that's brilliant that's what I enjoy. They will. Absolutely. Unique. And then you became a player. And they had. Us. That was the education. But that's what I want. My education was. Your picture. In the corner. He really didn't. Reflect the community. More than. They. Think. People think. I'm. With no money and not that that ever mattered we never ever at really did data from an American because we felt there was a real need so we started off as actors and then suddenly be all had a big social conscience of these workers in our struggle and then we realized we were connected to them all because we were all women our parents someway had worked in the mill on our groundings it was really. Very organic and a need to explain not only your past but you know what you were going to do I was going to theatre because I want to be involved in the theater and then I saw Martin and his play one night. And everything for me. At the beginning of it it wasn't so much the content of the play political play it was the whole package. And there were people again I'm speaking your language yeah the humor was my humor and they were shouting about the state of being like in Shakespeare's day they did it because he was the beginning of community it was. My mentor. You haven't laughed at my brother. So much. That's Templemore Avenue you know this is the at the center of this is the eye of the storm certainly was this was the. Community Network Places this really were for everything happened you didn't need a phone or anything because of something happened within seconds it was. Next. Time for me and 2 days across the street to everybody was in and out of it all the time it was a great. This is right in the heart of the. Front of you see the big. In the sixty's and you always know when you see the the Korean exactly where you are right in the heart of most of our fathers was very much a meal to me and. When they were renovated our we. Put up these. Sort of. My mom she just made to the top of the street. That was our state Kathleen strict but see on every corner shop and. And by 25 churches that was our social life Church people are France and. I suppose I am because I feel I want to do because so much a part of me is because these were my formative years people who were brilliant storytellers they had Gricar actors but to see anything about it is everybody had the C.M. Then we didn't have a lot of money. Not even really anything. Therefore you know we could go to the dance halls trying to trying to. Crack and this. Was a lot of. People's lives weren't so good there was a lot of drink and alcoholism my dad didn't and he was. Just ahead of the table on the Amazon and a good time and next thing you hear the. Busy street. But my mom had like 1000 sisters and they used to. She never want to be there because then I had to get used to the break in the when they were talking about things I shouldn't think you will do the stories they are just brilliant you learn to lip read yes muse and watch because it was so much that . It's. All these words and never wanted me to find I. This is. The streets just right. For me. It was for. The kids would have been from the bottom of the hour and I remember. When I got right up to the key and you had to show them to has. Never forget sometimes. And. So there is a. Right in the sand. Or I would be here maybe 3 or 4 times a day when I was my child's today. On a Friday night. Man. There would have been only. 3 You know this is like an old red brick sort of old fashioned you know I don't think it's changed. History of head trauma. Is that really box office idea of the class and these. 2 are going to be called last but it would be a Victorian. Yes it would be Tory to be very mean real by the minute you see I was here that was always. A waterfall and suit it was like that which is sort of common you know over the. Boy P.N. Police think that was like it's really just that Mafia to me mom to be speaking still she wasn't here mutal thing with you know we don't I don't think we were ever lied to. So hi David who are you and you look off in the buff here do you know one of the came here we are running a bus. From you know maybe nearly 383 knots 33 years or something like that yeah I thought the excess of the soft. Die potential we're thinking of closing it really showed we have run up the charge day on the name of Templemore users trust. It's so you kept the thing on still here on the earth very hopeful that we're going to get a new company he's going put it with us the building is stored. On this POS condition its former glory its former glory he remembered it was like yeah yeah I remember it and it's really good writing some of the old features or just on topic that a box office and I remember all of that and the old boxes for 80 and I was that decided how things straight might I might add but ship got all the men coming up on a Friday night for their time. I'm certainly dead how about this for 3 it's just got bought and paid for one stick of archery have always understood the cost of are still learning to have a look at them they're going to they're part of the new We're going to develop them they're just restore what I did I also wrote a screenplay question for Socrates about the Northern Ireland team what we did here and they will buy us so little bit of boxes along the side of the channel and you walk along the corridor work yes dad yeah OK let's go to Frankie OK so much. I could stop the rabbit with ball bearings filled rant time as you say the class pictures still the Sandia and look at the wooden staircase from time to get me course you need to read it from here and can see. Oh street kids and boxes along the trail you did the little wooden boxes and the crap like structure the same and then the big change and I did the back as bad yeah but we did a lot of competitions here because our school was always in ball tonight ballasts from in California US Army private school and I should have a picture of us for what our models went on because that's all we could do to spend because it was near on it was an activity that all us kids love and this is real learn to swim a serious artist when you know which is the percent type of move up and arm bounce around I think it was me almost literally every moment over nothing but the. Everybody knows the. Story. And I. Promise that at. Least. Through the. Thing as I consider myself. And nothing else but I have to have Martin tell you this because everybody has a different experience. And experience as we're standing here in the town to. Get our 1st opening here in this theater. 198333 years 34 years ago. We need. To work. More. Hard about. The hard. Convinced the pope. You know that's the trade with a few months in rehearsals in the US when we arrived here to this theater. Get ready for the show when I read. It I couldn't believe it I thought it was a cue for bringing it to the living room and it was night right when I went read upper and rune by the reasons you tell which was reason tell them how I mean to know from you people women written a play called my name is on it so and I just get excesses of every choice was out upgraded a bit but what we also discovered. From. Martin was all the adults from those who knew him a moment and friends of theirs all turned. Droves as well as a theatre group of. Heavyweights to load and it was really it was the mill workers in South. Park Corner city. Couldn't knock on doors. Just knock on the door and say did you work on the mound messes when we talk to you and some of the missing. But I got to tell you he's got a story to tell that's kind of hot and that is a cool way. To state she has a car started be different she's a different so he could say he was picked on the somebody asked so this time we had to play on we had to talk to so many women. And before the play even started yet but the thing was the big thing came across most of time why would anybody read about us play when everybody. Was Shara bank was the 1st real Independent Theatre Company members tended to come to. US taking the standard . 3 of us that are known he was a B.B. Bits and pieces here and charged and formed a brand new company. And was extra. Around . The. Horn. And then with the 1st save just machinery and. What happened in the. In the 1st. That is used for theater because very hard to get a decent. MARTIN Because our sign. We were. Just underneath. This is. Serious and then we were doing the rock and fifty's because I remember the day and I had to sing a song every time I hear there are good. And started to go. And. Who remember this. That they are. That's what the audience plays. It's. So and the next thing. In the wings to off the next day they heard and they rushed . For the audience and just content. And as you say. Recovery from. 300 or. 500 it was perfect. To. Say things to. Me in areas nobody knows anybody and they are. The case we go. Through. So. The easy. Part we're going to this is this is the new stuff that's you know we can smell. The states are just over there. You. Look at the stats is absolutely fantastic we're doing here in Windsor Park. I have to since I had to be clean. Because he took over and took my seat All right. So you're looking to. Bait. War I think we partied for about 80 days so pathetic but beating was the big. Achievement I know the football play is a big part in your life but in your work you wrote. Well I did not November. And then obviously the screenplay version for Socrates fell and here in Windsor Park and the actors were all. In the 1986 work but they didn't use anything. From Northern Ireland. He had to react. To his. Appeal which. Deflected trying to say to me beautiful say spread yourself so with the. Play a bit. And David Campbell was there and I said I don't want somebody to act right I need the actor 1st and then. When they came here it was just like for the 3 of them who were. Supporters and to put on the can't recreate in the work comp in 1906 where they did the kind of like common art of the tunnel and. Many people did you hear the. Yeah we have a lot of access. You know with the way you do with. And then you can sort of multiply them into whatever it was just a great failure and then there me how do we get him. On the pitch. Be part of. Want to make a movie. That. I. Want this is a it's not. It's. It's . I mean just part of. The theater. And drama but the. Trend. In the theater. The drafts. And all posh. People here. Do this. But. I think. The command. And. Look at the good set. Here at the moment gas centers. And inspired by French was written in 1600 and something. Like somebody said it's like a big tree heist so would. The Howard Theatre because I remember when I 1st went to the theatre I was come so. I can say I'm not a special person but something happened I went and I think I was only 15 at the time. Under the water and went to the theatre I remember sitting there thinking this is where I'd be for the rest of my life and I don't know how I'm going to achieve a but I just knew I knew from that moment and I still get butterflies and when you come in here you say you're not spiritual but this play is called sinners. You know . This is fun I. Could have to take that. So it's box office gold his prejudice. Yes it is a fantastic experience and it's a real privilege you know coming from my background to be able to not have a voice when. People who have no voice and are completely voiceless and then all my plays would be very very ordinary people ordinary people thrown into extraordinary circumstances on high they have to work on their wits and user what's that. I mean what a journey that you've heard from street to hear I suppose I didn't really stop if I had stopped every step of think about it I really would never go on the next step further I have to say it was baby steps my friend. And I certainly feel. So morning we're back at the portrait again of you we started at the mural. Of the lyric. I think with this one meant so much more to me I knew it was happening I'm going to ask Matt was very very on purpose to be some much a part of the Belfast to be after her community more so than. It was just part of me and here I was this is a big thing for me this is this is huge that this is what I have said I seem like a team and such a great artist as Brad Davidson. And they are creamy pinned. To my house he says the Queen of East Yeah exactly he said the only Queen I know from the. Owen O'Neill was on a tour there of Mary Jones of Belfast the town I love so well as produced by Helen Ferguson and you can listen to it again this Monday evening at half past 7 or by visiting B.B.C. I Player radio also there's a photo gallery of the series if you go to Radio Ulster's homepage and follow the links coming.