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They want to find themselves in a position where they propping up a Prime Minister or the paper thin majority who may still think she wants to push for a hard break that could be a very difficult position to find deserves in of course the Bracks that was here since I really got started and where do you think is going to be negotiating at this point. I have some predicting that could be going to go on with. Summer so she could be gone by 8 o'clock in the morning the excellent he's gone already leaving did you say if you go to accurately David Cameron time. I think she actually I think she has to go she she's very deliberately called an early election to get herself an increased mounded for Rex if it was going to Chelsea about it well it's not her to pieces or to spoil who replaces run the Tory party but Boris Johnson would fancy discharges into yesterday but his majority has been slashed someone is going to be particularly concerned about who they may have to negotiate with as of course Arlene Foster leader of the d u p She is joining us now as is a little pen Galli successful candidate in South Belfast Good morning to both of you thank you very much indeed for joining us this morning ever a little bit ago if I can begin with success and size of Belfast the hard graft paid off yes absolutely you know size Belfast is a very interesting constituency probably across the United Kingdom it is one of the few perhaps the only constituency where you have 4 parties that are all in contention so it was an interesting conception say it's a tough constituency to but my approach to this was to get down on the grind not doors speak to people and persuade them to come out and support me. And it appears to have paid off and as a strategy a tactic that has paid off across the board Arlene Foster a very strong performance from the d.p.p. Tonight yes I'm absolutely delighted with the performance of the party even in states where we weren't going to win the state I think people have come by and voted for the very plays with some of the results so I didn't think that we would be 2nd in West Belfast I think Frank's getting ready for the next time it was tremendous to see Frank getting a strong vote he's a very hard worker on the grind Alex result and North dynamism incredible result when you look at the result and 2015 come in with. 1200 votes. Not constituency for so many years so yes it's been a really good night I think people. The fact that we want to see evolution restored as quickly as possible was of the manifest of the threat of a border. Well you know I think people did. Speak to say that they wanted to be within the union I think they would be incredibly destabilizing I think when you look at the way in which they pulled back in terms of always talking about independence I think they have got an answer in relation to that tonight so I think people did vote for the and I'm very pleased that they did the Union a strong union was. Advocated. As we speak is in a precarious position. In charge of a hung parliament as things stand which really strengthen the hand of the. Opening conversations with hours ahead of course it's. Going to do yet I think we need to see the final make up of parliament and then when we reflect on that I certainly think that there were. Over the weekend but I think it is to talk about going to do I think we need to wait and see do you think she's going to survive. I don't know that she's on her way back to London I think it will be difficult for her to survive given. The start of the campaign which a long time ago and I to come back with 100 maybe more in terms of her majority. In the position we find ourselves in tonight so incredibly difficult. I mean we've seen. As well we've seen tonight. No one is happier than I. We've seen a number of. Politics is a very difficult. Probably better than anybody else here tonight but I just want to say to all of those who put their selves forward and we do get to all of people who put themselves forward for public office before so for the right reasons and it's always tough when it comes to the result when you clearly are thinking. It's been a really tough night for them and I just reflect on that given everything that has happened to me over this past while as well. Has taken the state of I'm just watching the television here to my leisure center show. That again will be a huge blow. Personally for you as. It is because I mean if you look at. The whole of the west of the provinces without representation of Westminster I deeply regret that. The country is not represented at Westminster out a very crucial time for the future of Northern Ireland we need to get back up and running again but if it doesn't get back up again half of the country is going to be on represented and I really regret speaking of those talks to Evolution talks beginning we understand on Monday. Both have a greatly strengthened hand is that going to be the talks easier or more difficult I think we need to 1st of all sort out the Westminster election. Obviously And we were hoping to get back into those talks quickly on Monday or Tuesday but I think what has happened in the election will take us a little longer to get back in those talks for evolution. James Brokenshire will still be the secretary of state I hope we will because it would be a very difficult job for someone to come in and just pick up the. Talks. What you need to be concluded within a very short period of time so I do hope that James is reappointed But of course that's a matter for whoever the new prime minister is somewhere to wait to see what happens there and for you personally much has been made of whether or not you should be the 1st minister designate and by the day you pay to leave the day you pay into talks that's been an issue for do you think this strengthens your mandate is there any prospect that you would not take up the position of 1st minister if the party emerges not light. Let me say this. Actually comes and goes as a big issue for depending on who you speak to and when you speak to them also seems to be a big issue for the media turning out a big issue for the. Executive died and they said that the people needed to speak to the people that speak we are not in a position where. The leader of the Democratic Party that has been confirmed again tonight by the tremendous victory that we've. Got such. Terms of Irish I can say it as well. With regards to Bracks that of course which is the other main feature of this election do you feel that the breakfast here is Wings have been clipped to some extent that Jeremy Corbyn will not permit a hard border are hard. Well again we're going to have to wait and see what happens in terms of the makeup of Parliament I do think that it will make negotiations difficult in the phrase and I wanted to have a good majority so that she could. Negotiate with a strong hand she doesn't appear to. Make it even more important the people come from Northern Ireland and how their voice hard to. Hear this is from from one started 061. 537-043-5371 extension 4. The valid votes were $53488.00 by 3 for it yet b.n. Valid votes were 226 and the percent each turn it was $76.00 with 76.0 with. I Martin Fox as the deputy returning officer for the permanent side throne constituency hereby declare that up the election the number of votes for each candidate was as follows. Campbell No warning a lance Party It $186.00 it 6. Tom Ulster Unionist Party 24355 that's 24355. 25. Thank. You there we have. 24355 over 25000 significant majority there for Fane and the end of the also Unionist party representation of. Something. I mean. Disappointed. I'm disappointed. Again. For the most part. I think. The choice. Of the Democratic. Party and they decided that they wanted to vote. Do you believe there is no. Or ships to engage and perhaps see if a more formal working arrangement could be established well as you know I spoke to him before the election and we said we would continue to speak after the selection in terms of cooperation we will just sold it out of course and they will of course want to reflect on what this means for them. And I'm a little bit in galley How will you celebrate this evening out of this morning should I say. Yes I know you're over me I think very strongly I will sleep and possibly sleep for the entire of the week and so looking forward to getting home and getting to bed as it's going to be a bit of a departure for you such a journey in a matter of weeks ago to have last night on this. Membership in a position today to be considering having grown as an m.p. Working from Westminster Yeah absolutely and you know it was just just slightly over 3 months ago I was in this hall and it was a very difficult night there's no doubt about that it was difficult not just for myself because it was such a small margin but also very difficult for for example for my staff in the constituency office because sometimes we do forget about the teams that we have behind us and you know I know that election talking with the states reducing from 6 to 53 huge number of people who lost their seats and a huge number of staff along without you know certainly it has been difficult but you know that is. It isn't a certainty we rely on the votes of the people and ultimately the people can decide you know not not to vote are you know as we've seen and from our side thrown in there that despite very very significant numbers tonight Sometimes it's just not meant to be yes it can be difficult but yes we're here tonight and a very different situation and I'm really looking forward to getting back and representing the people of south fast Congratulations I'm a little girl in Foster thank you thank you. So we're. All a team constituencies from. Have now been returned to Westminster. Topping the polls here with 10 M.P.'s that's equalling their. Best ever performance I think with 2005 with best for this is now the joint best ever performance of the day u.p.a. Shin Fein have increased to 7 M.P.'s and the independent Sylvia one which means the s.-t. O.-p. Have lost all 3 of their M.P.'s and the d. For they have lost both of their M.P.'s So that is where we are here we're not sure how it's going to end up or the end of the thing in the rest of the u.k. The mayor has been thinking there as you were talking to a little pink Gelly you know and a serious question I wonder how in her mind how long it will be she's thinking before she has to defend this seat in another general election is that possible Alex Cade at this point within the next year there's a think if to me if Theresa May stands down whoever succeeds or has got an impossible task anyway because that person themselves will need a mandate in terms of Bracks and but just one other point it is worth and both are but they are still pay bills to you than his party it's not just the physical Had they taken lose in their members of parliament it's an enormous financial hit they take as well those 2 of our middle shins Vergil their destruction have been lost 6 families and the money that goes without one roughly what kind of furniture if you get 2 M.P.'s I think if you get party funding which is certainly tens of thousands of pounds and probably considerably more than not so they're still pay you would have had maybe $200.00 thousands of the maybe I'll just use it it's a lot of money that's all gone the ocean is already lost their 2nd 6 M.L.'s 2 in funding for through departed that's gone for a small party and when you think that we might have another assembly election their coffers are already dead to people and I don't think they can afford them and they certainly don't want because this sort of thing may not notice and rate it it's maybe equal in their. 10 best the d.p. I haven't done the figures in terms of overall vote but I'm pretty sure that's going up I wonder if there's another election in 3 months time the party are not getting those votes back and when you lose an m.p. An m.p. Is usually worth a 2nd m.l.a. In the constituency once you lose id that even with the 5 figure bunch you lives on it's another series of head split those party they cannot afford. A trade cheery note and. It is for the d.p. Who have always wanted to whip the Pilate and they I remember somebody telling me once that they thought it was the 1st thought that they'd been told by somebody who knew the Reverend Ian Paisley very well that his 1st thought every morning when he woke up was hi can I damaged to you Peter Day Well they actually did a good enough job themselves. You know this is back in the day when they where the pardons were the reason may has said that she thinks the country now needs a period of stability. And a strong stability I think that is it really hasn't been for I'm going to transfer . Else and I'm going to have the point that Alex makes the financial implications are not simply in terms of the number of M.P.'s but also the number of votes absolutely and the fact that the u.p.a. Has done well in constituencies where it didn't take seat for you know it's also see even real. Indeed lots to ponder in there as to what the future if any there is then for the for the center ground is that what Alliance Party clearly no love lost between the d.p. And the Alliance Party and Nelson McCausland How do you see their performance reflected and scythes Belfast and east Belfast. Well they're very much in the east of the problems party and they were your figures in the West and the rural areas it's just not there and the more and with with fewer seats in the assembly. The been without this what has been described as poor isolation between the 2 large parties consolidation soul this is a much better or is I like a console a quote essence of all sorts of terms and I think you're going to see more pressure on the Alliance Party. Is house and you know they were obviously putting a lot of hopes on and they will be on the materialize can I take you over to hear some of the the acceptance speeches bits of the acceptance because of both trees in May and Jeremy Corbett if there's a sense of how they are feeling tonight we'll go 1st to Theresa May This is what she said earlier Thank you very much and 1st of all may I on behalf of myself and all of the candidates thank the returning officer and all just off for the hard work that they have put in today in running this election here in the Maidenhead constituency can I also thank the police who have had an extra job here tonight in ensuring the security of this event and thank you to all those who have once again supported me as a member of parliament from Agent head it is a huge honor and a privilege to be elected as the Member of Parliament for this constituency and I pledge that I will continue to work for all my constituents as I have done over the period of time that I have been your Member of Parliament as we look more widely across the country of course written returns are still coming in. We have yet to see the full picture emerging folks are still being counted but at this time more than anything else this country needs a period of stability and if as the indications have shown or if this is correct that the Conservative Party has won the most seats and probably the most votes then it will be incumbent on us to ensure that we have that period of stability and that is exactly what we will do I would like to thank all those across the country who have voted for the Conservative Party today we as we ran this campaign we set out to consider the issues that are the key priorities for the British people getting the brakes it deal right ensuring that we both identify and show how we can address the big challenges facing our country as we look ahead and we wait to see what the final results will be I know that as I say the country needs a period of stability and whatever the results are the Conservative Party will ensure that we fulfill our duty in ensuring that stability so that we can all as one country go forward together thank you well that is what treason May said as part of her except in part for victory speech earlier Jeremy Corben probably a different tone Have a listen to this. Thank you very much and I 1st of all want to sank this area and his staff for the way this election has been conducted and all the pressures that are put on to the staff to achieve this thank you very much to you and all the stuff here tonight and all those that run our democratic services in this bar and those who want to particularly thank the police for their work today and their work last night in helping to ensure that the crowds rules but also all the work they did last weekend during the horrors of the attack that took place on London Bridge in the Bara it shows the importance of a fully staffed place to make sure we're all caps safe at all times. The normal zone or to be elected to represent Islam to north for the 9th time in Parliament and I'm very very honored and humbled by the size of the vote has been cast for the maid tonight as the Labor candidate this election was called in order to for the prime minister to gain a large majority in order to assert her authority and the election campaign has gone on for the past 6 weeks I've traveled the whole country I've spoken to defense and rallies all over the country and you know what politics has changed and politics isn't going back into the box where it was before because what's happened is people have said they've had quite enough of a sterile politics they've had quite enough of cuts in public expenditure underfunding our health service underfunding our schools and our education service and not giving our young people the chance they deserve in our society and I'm very very proud of the campaign that my party has run manifesto for the many not the few and I'm very proud of the results that are coming in all over the country tonight of people voting. Hope. Hope for the future and. You see. If there is a problem to the result is this the prime minister called the election because she wanted. Well the. Conservatives lost. Confidence I would have thought that's enough to go actually. Be truly representative of the people. So that was Jeremy Corbyn there calling for treason made to go East made that point even more explicit the c.b.c. Think she should step down as prime minister in not be the only one calling for her to go by the end of the evening if these forecasts live out bring you up to date with the results in Northern Ireland we have 18 constituencies all have now returned. And one independent Sylvia Harman we're joined by champagne northern leader Michelle O'Neill good morning to you Michele good morning how are you feeling right now well we're obviously delighted with the election result and we're very grateful to the electorate for common I don't return and 7 strong team to take on the issues which we very much sure Harshman discussed on the doors of trade the course of the campaign and the issues of Bragg's that the issue of standing up to the Tories so it's been a great day I'm very delighted that we have built on the mountain which was obviously achieved thread the course of the astounding election campaign fully awake at this hour of the morning I know I must. That you've heard about it I thought that you know of course I mean just coming out from. Just being declared as great a cannot state so obviously that's been a tremendous result we take our mandate very seriously and we know we've got a massive job to work today and we're very much committed to do not. Deliver that's the what. Big job work in front of us people have asked us to go back and make an executive work to make good government work to deliver public services and to take on the issue of Bragg's that and that's what we're going to do you know with Armando Michel who is the high point of this evening for you it's just it's been a tremendous save than I have to say you know I think that for me very much in the last number of months taken on as the new Later in the north to take on at a time of political crisis the fact that we've lost Martin you know we've just had it we've had a difficult year as Republicans but we've also had a very very positive year and the fact that so many people are endorsing our message and Dorsenne our vision I think is tremendous from a gives me great hope and optimism for the future I am so proud to lead our party through this time and into the future I just think that the issue of Bragg's this is not a man that more and more people and I talking about our unity more and more people question their future so I can say my job work ahead of me as a leader of the party in the north to convince enough people and to have that comfortable conversation around what does our future look like and how can we work together to deliver it well of your mandate has been strengthened to night and it truly has this result the do you piece mandate has been seriously strengthened tonight with the best result they've ever achieved Yeah of course it's harder than I mean I think it's about how you use your mandate as the issue which the public want to know what are the what are you going to do with the money that they've given you we would be ready to go and tomorrow actually our negotiation team is already going to be making and we do mean all the other parties from Monday on we're ready to go to talk about the issues because what the public endorsed is they want the Executive don't work they want the parties to work together but they do you want and they have very much indorsed a quality a respect and integrity at the heart of government and that's what I've been working for every day and the whole team will be working towards that what I think if the right attitude is there we can have an executive set up and up and run on proper par sure and getting back with all the parties around the table if the right political left the political will is there to do so because what we've asked for is very very reasonable it's implementation of what's been previously agreed and also the leader. Besides 1st minister designate for a period of time is that still there that's their position I mean is this the end but if you remember what I even their face of this new mandate from the us but remember why she was asked to stand aside and also remember that Martin was very reasonable and on that he only asked her to stand aside for a short period of time which there was a preliminary investigation she refused to do so will not collapse the executive It was about the or he had chased down that as a financial scandal that potentially could of course 500000000 pounds so the public want answers and I believe that way that the clouds hanging over it and then that next try difficult but that doesn't mean they can't pay an executive if they're deeply want to have an executive and they want to get back to par sure and then they should do the right thing and they can nominate someone else if things work out the way the forecasters suggesting to show. The Conservative Party will be just short of a majority necessary to form independently form a government and if they were to take their seats you could be making it more difficult for them and stopping them having that majority what you're talking a hypothetical situation we don't know what I'm going to be the outcome of Asli that not all the states are declared but our position remains the same we are only hypothetical it's a forecast that's what I mean we fight that spending let me put it this way then we stand in this election and we ask the public to endorse us on an obstructionist position that remains our position and it will be changing. Thank you very much thank you couldn't be any clearer than any clearer how to ask the question I knew what the answer would be I don't sense that's going to change anytime soon do you own the other little little I don't know I was never never no I wouldn't think so certainly not in the foreseeable future not in this political situation I was struck by her there. Are in foster children the learning 1st are saying something very very similar but it's utterly different and it just illustrates the situation here they're both saying Mum did strength and they're both saying the people have said this but the talking to different people yes so I mean to say the people. Spoken we've got they've got their non-serious the people have spoken but the answer Arlene's talking about is not the same Monsour is the answer Michelle is still going to see the same question it's really a trip to talk about the dynamics for the nationalism this will very much be portrayed that chimping is one the abstention ism argument that they have that they have fist on the s.-t. O.-p. Over them it was really the last major to divide an issue between the I don't think there was an argument David I don't think there was a real argument there at all I don't think people had a big I agree it was no discernable from the from the electorate at any point to hang on to Westminster and so yeah I completely agree and they cannot and in this election I think shame fan more so than previous elections were really able to use 15 border constituencies they were able to actually say Ok well you know we've got Gerry Adams in law I we need Chris hazard and Darren to kind of complete the sad news that all are in message and I know the last you news commentary lots you just will look somewhat askance at that kind of come on cannot really be a big thing and actually is that all island dynamic all island kind of message really is a powerful message and I do think it has helped people like Chris Hauser to get over the line in places like something that is not an argument either that says that the talks and the fact that they vote away at that point from the talks appears that the north side both ways for example aren't working at the moment but . It depends on what Again it all depends on what terms they can go back in on and you're right it is about using the north side mechanisms to make things work but again. We need to see what way the national picture is going to go at the moment because if it should fan of being operated on the presumption that we're in for a decade or more of Tory were God is no I am much less likely presumption either we've had because we're all pumped in 15 years that we're in for another thought or mirror at Meijer era that's much less likely to be the case why we could not. New Prime is also we've got a new tissue and we haven't even need to get that he's a he's an unknown quantity and he does not. And this is nor you know their nationals and this is the really interesting thing this coming week we could have and you know that are in Secretary we are likely to have a new Minister for Foreign Affairs could have a new British prime minister you will have a need to talk as we come in as well with the least block version there's the secretary of state both really irrelevant both which is interesting that the British government mirrors the Irish government and that they're both likely to be precarious minority governments are good and what's just sorry I don't know what I'm going to mean there's also something else that's important if you're looking at and Tory government that is going to be speaking to the do you pay about what form of government is going to be established then how does the British government to start itself as an independent chair of any negotiations for the reestablishment of the of the executive they can't do that anymore so I think the role of the Dublin government is going to be particularly pointed in that situation and it actually throws up how we are going to negotiations or tall because we're going to see very much the Tory party in the tea perhaps working in concert and then that changes the entire dynamic and so we're we're seeing something completely different to the point of going to make just 4 under there is this. Sinn Fein were buying can hear. A strong conservative government the hard hard to build the border Paul campaign I'm not even sure and I mean and it's even though I met a self-confessed Breck's it there I've always said we would go the food journey and I just don't know if we have that we certainly don't we certainly don't have a government with a mandate to do it I'm not sure we'll have a government in 3 or 6 months to do that will also make should feel have to rethink their position to know because they were banking they were banking on something very big very bad and not that may not end up in another thing is that you know in terms of what in terms of what the North has asked for in terms of you know single market access continue membership the single market continue membership in the programs as Alex has just pointed out I don't think that the people go to the money to take us out of some of those things I think as long as we leave the European Union and some way shape or form maybe in Norway style deal maybe maybe agreeing on type thing whatever way it is I think we're in for a much less of an exit for from the European Union much softer brags that. Potentially maybe that the way to get our That is maybe a 2nd referendum that may. Not have a 2nd referendum is now much more likely it is a consequence of Gunther not that means he says it may mean that he has to return to Bali. But it's not over so if you never really thought it measures. All the way to say no where no for Braggs you know monitors that they are for the opposition party let's not forget Jeremy Corbin is not a foreigner of Europe the reason why Jeremy corresponded fast was feasible is because we are leaving the European Union he couldn't do his big nationalisation policies and if we were staying the key question is it was a much softer brags that for labor the Lib Dems falter me and strategy I don't think they'll I think they will opt for a softer brags that So treason may pitch this thing and not eat give me a strong mandate because the opposition are going to Torah rhyme with this and we can't allow that to happen. Well the Pritish people just turns around actually talking about how do you want one to go really hard yet. Much I only have only one is what you are what I know and also the turnout rate is roughly matching the referendum. Because tourism a felt she had to prove the prime minister a prime minister who was a remainer she had to prove that she was prepared to deliver brags that she was trying to silence her own trying to get rid of. The major gold but she may be replaced by someone who thinks differently in terms of the kind of break that may be possible you know who's who knows who should be replaced by you know where all of us don't go for he was the 1st never given an earlier own just as the 1st person she was going to get rid of that he's coming to criticism during the campaign because he was Chancellor the exchequer was right if you go do you think you know this is similar bill you know similar rule to the rules she played in the . Submarine you incidentally 550 constituencies have now returned 100 still to go I don't know why am I the only one interest in school the world this is the only time little that's got more so the s.n.p. Done 19 at this point I should say 68 still to go on Scotland the s. And p. 33 done 1000 the Tories have gone up from nothing to 10 the Labor Party gone up 67 the Liberal Democrats are up 3 so that's the resurgence of the conservatives in Scotland trusting that there are few. Former at. Tempe at Myspace who lost their seats last year I saw one of them. In the rafters down this he went to her early didn't she didn't say yeah that's the general sense a couple of. Scottish journalists who were friendly with her saying that she did just fire the gun to the s.n.p. Are definitely not yeah if you recently said a terrible thing like Davis is have a terrific election it's call it on the point too often the. Instability of certainty in Scotland has implications here for Northern Ireland. Then say more about that we may not be quite the script as previously anticipated because there is always some implication for Northern Ireland and for us perspective I'm sure I can several years meaning broadly would be something I want to see me and yes. All right so you think as a result of the visit of the polling today as I say that the union stronger is certainly the weakening of the s.n.p. Is very significant so if they think it's worth saying that for all the parties I think a 2nd referendum gets them off an awful lot of folks and also by itself and by extension I say that is what is the board's bricks and by extension may as well help the union because it takes away some of the Scottish grievances takes away some of the Northern Irish grievances some of the Welsh but I think I think that might be a good thing but you have to wonder. You know if we can get a government formed. The u.k. Foreign here. How much food or fatigue can we get can people really enjoy in a 2nd referendum you know I think lots of people find to break that referendum much like the Scottish referendum which is very divisive You know when you're doing a referendum you get very polarized opinions so it will be interesting to see how things fall out of that but I think voter fatigue is seriously were really look at last night's you know voter for. More divisive it is the more divisive it is really less food to people who are come I say at the start of the thing we challenge he want here for that I'm afraid you won't hear from the other but we did challenge some of the guests to write done their predictions for the constituencies and all they do. 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Belonging to Sion field Yeah and that's essentially what's happened and that is seismic as your moment of anger for sure David Boies yours since 2001 in northern and western selections there's always been a shock to see whether it was east Belfast in 2010. Or so I found from last time if oil is at sea tonight the one the one that most of us just thought wouldn't going to buy 80210780 votes that end up in the end again not for me as the shocks on the story of the night now listen for you high point low point of the event I think the high point is the total you know spoke with just about consolidation is has been so significant problem moment when you realized that is the pattern we're just going to see that pattern it's just for the rest of the evening right across all the constituencies whether it was for you and you'll see. Or not it was a solid move which is the gain you would be most pleased with from a strategy and planning point of view in the day you reckon live in Simpson was there was sort of some of it was it was good. Joining about I think that the surprise in some ways was just how close they are about taking sides both fast you got 3 out of 4 say and I think I thought I was a time when the kind sort. Of a significant majority of parties who are not your in your fight that your theory to force it to Westminster is significant the survey and the way you are doing must be an extra little he can see you. Because marching only divided that national vote as you came from the middle Yeah as we say you know when you take what you get you think you're a bad thing it's just realising that we're not friends with everybody filesystem Alliance as well. True true I think actually Arlene Foster's kind of gave me and gave me one of the lines that I when she said west of the band you're looking at a complete chin Fein and I think that's a that's right as you go to the border that's what you see I think that has a lot of politics in it I think Sean for Newcomes post was absolutely ferocious. Fame for saying look this is a big ask it's an extra 6000 votes that we have to make up they just about did that but Nigel just did a bit more as well so it's a winnable seat for them it really is and if John Franken was to decide to come along to go into the next assembly election and some of us think there might be in us another assembly elections sooner rather than later what a replacement for Gerry Kelly right complete transformation in constituency I don't know if anything like that and I don't know whether another election we haven't. Had that I think there is still potential to believe in your sport north of fast I think. Largely Mark started. The song is not the. West Belfast Frank really did extremely well there. As I said The starting to be the other night mention 5000 he got significantly on not. The 2nd largest party muscle fast Yeah I think people you know for profit that's what I mean we haven't talked about t.v. Or the grains or paper profits right but you know t.v. Got absolutely no snarky feature Yeah you got got obstinately hammered on people for profit their free fall continues and I did pick up from a number of conversations recently people who have been pretty well connected to the t.v. Saying what's the point there like you could really aren't they being sucked into you know absorbed. Conservatives but it's not do you conserve as much when I remember Alex Well I think for me that it's the South I'm from order not because we'd always buying from on the south to go in so far from it's the one because the options that they might just hold on to that's a devastating blow but also I think the most interesting were 2 things I have not had up the figures but I think just on listening to them it's probably the students' party's lowest ever lowest ever vote but what is interesting is that in the 2 constituencies they stood they only managed to get 2 in Belfast the only managed to get 2135 votes that is I think an astonishing vote and while it's been moments in the past we will know that in 2001 right the way through 2015 the been moments when we thought they're in trouble but we've always thought certainly coming from my boyfriend that there's always a possibility of reinvention I don't believe they can reinvent and you think it's over I think we'll see in this party is 3 happen if you take it off the life support machine you're the be beeps and it's just there I don't see how the recover from this and it's not Robin salt Robin came in he wasn't expecting the election he wasn't expecting to be a leader all the circumstances into the u.s. All the circumstances were against him and I think while Arlen was a little coy when asked about you know talking about the I think more and more people include more I live in all streams all the lies will start talking with there's no point us being here that's one of your moment of the evening for a kind of triple whammy 1st it's the British the British election which is just so stock and I'm very I find it very satisfying partly defines people like us it shows that pundits were talking you know rubbish and other the time and party pre. Happens when young people decide to vote and that's the huge thing that's a huge thing and then the 2 that they are to me are sort of bookends the demise of Mark and for oil marched by the rays of John from the can in north Belfast there you have a new breed of figure. Very potentially very significant thing this is somebody with a completely clean sheet comes from a totally different background and the middle class cow Drew thoughts right where you are lost along the way he could be the beginning of thought so much the departure. Last related to put that in. The humor steel to a new generation we are still forecasting the forecast gets updated all the time where we've got another 75 or so constituencies to return over all the u.k. We're still forecasting the Conservative Party will be the largest party but they will be short of a majority necessary for for an independent government hung parliament Laura Khan's burg just reporting a conservative source saying it is 5050 now but the reason may well be resigning tomorrow 5050 according to a senior source within the Tory but that was the flood of speech overwhelming isn't even well lots of lots we're going to get some sleep I'm back on Talkback for more are we going to get some sleep goodness knows what will be waking up to the way this evening has gone but listen thanks to all of you for spending the night with us that's all from us on this general election undershorts Good morning ouster will be here very very shortly they're on there from 6 o'clock Chris Buckley an old Thompson playing up the baton b.b.c. 5 Live will take you 3 until then but from all of us here on this Results program to have a frank it might have a great night sleep go to bed Joe of. The loose covered thing was the nastiness all action coming out of the oh the momentum side and I'm not saying that from a Tory point of view I'm talking for the moderates in the lay bossy the compass having you know the house upon the Larry's door and abuse continually This is not a good policy these are not good people Jamie Corbin Mike. But the people that support him or quite frankly awful have no place in pretty that's a pretty broad brush isn't it. If you want to react how about all those people who were abusing Diane Abbott being a black woman. And listen you'll be the same way I was using I'm way I'm whining about excuse me I am talk let's not make a point Charles and then you can come by. Oh. In case you hadn't guessed and yet you can says you know I've not seen this I don't feel like momentum speak for the Labor Party and I feel that you need to learn to differentiate between them I've not seen anything about abusive house and things up but I think I'm telling you to look not it's. Not all not all of support is all in in the men's but. All with Corbin and I would say this I mean the behavior again I'm not talking from a Tory point of view I'm talking on behalf of more Labor people who have to suffer if you look at you know some of the top Tory complains just the abuse for the mental side Ok how how about the adjusting how about the abuse that the mainstream media have given Corben follow and just making up absolutely lies how about the smear campaigns that got the Daily Mail in the sun How about the fact that to resume a can of women policy she only won the fact that the media was for her hello that was her name so. I don't really understand your point about the abuse that Tories have been receiving Taiwan has been receiving is racist is sexist and she has received the worst abuse yet some of the criticism of above has received is because when she was asked by political interviewers support her own policies the party's policies she was less She was less than sure is the place where I could but the thing is that she wasn't anyone that got her numbers wrong and there was no you just get her numbers wrong a very honest mistake yet people kept on going to her and educated she went to flipping Cambridge for christ sakes like what the hell so for you to now say that you know where we will get an order of this crap. And he has come out so strong I think I think what you're hearing tonight is well 5 lives is all a boy we can have political pundits and we can have experts what we're doing tonight here in our studio just outside our studio here in Seoul for this hearing from real voters on the ground in the heart of their feeling and they're called Hello there what's your name or mark which party. Nationalist feel nasty of he from Northern Ireland so for not quite in the sea of lines as Britain here but I thought I still feel it was the rise of the d.p. Here shows that we may have a part to play in the negotiation process of a hung parliament has been a good discipline good night for the for the pay what you're damn Hello Emma. Do you pay the whole let's see where the numbers come in but the d.p. Could be in a pretty powerful position Kate and they have made some great gains over the course of the night and that than able to I think probably. Be the only 2 parties with the Northern Ireland there's no last party there's no s.t.l. . And so things look like they're going to be very interesting but they only thing then that worries me is where does that leave Northern Ireland Northern Irish politics if these 2 parties have to work together we already know historically they will work together you know well there's there's a. Mental cause on this and they're on the ball but the moment with those 2 parties and that's whether they can find any type of of middle ground to work with each other is a big question who mocked Oh well. Slow night for the Greens desperately looking out for Carly Lucas I think that you're in any time now so hoping hoping that comes in force don't you think she'd make a fantastic environment secretary. Don't you think I think she I think she fits in really well in a. Prop up a Labor government but. You're supporting a party which is irrelevant in this general election. Is climate change relevant you know. I don't I don't think it is there are very real threats going on in this world that are being addressed by anybody else so I can't see how you can so the relevant was a good answer about thank you Chris or go result where is a problem let's go to Hastings and right the home secretary Holder say here's the declaration right it's given to each candidate was as follows Peter James Labor Party 25320 to. Be. 1885 Michael Sheridan Phillips. 1479. The right the conservative party candidate 25660. Was be the only reason I didn't. Think was rejected was $97.00 the turnout was 70 percent. I give public notice that the right. Is the Member of Parliament for the Hastings a right constituency. 6 So the scene recounts that have taken us pretty much through the last 4 hours in Hastings and right the home secretary managing to cling on by our graphene thin majority in Hastings and right she is returned to the Commons but only just Meanwhile the conservatives holding Pudsey in West Yorkshire again only just about 300 in that and did I read that the Liberal Democrats had retaken a c. No not quite what they had back to Stephen. This is just just to say to you all are here are 5 light parliamentary leader on the night when I said that a fundamental part of this season is how in our listeners not just part of our coverage but driving the coverage and that's what you've done tonight Souter all of you here still with us it was nearly 5 am in the morning thank you very much and they Folks thank you. Chris So in these last couple of minutes of this 6 No 7 hour overnight marathon of election broadcasting just chance for each of us for me. And for Stephen to reflect to summarize where we've got since that exit poll was published at 7 hours ago I'll have a crack at it 1st what's an astonishing night's The prime minister called this election because conservatives thought they would crush Jeremy Corbin's Labor Party it's not happened to reason mates Gamble has spectacularly failed the Tories will be the largest party but they've gone backwards they'll be huge questions now about whether to resume a can continue as conservative leader and as prime minister you know Well conventional wisdom has had another boot in the goolies we saw it over President Trump we saw it over Brett's it we saw it with how close the Scottish independence referendum was and here it is again those Bracks negotiations start in 10 days will it be to reason that a leading for Britain in those negotiations this morning we simply don't know as Alex Ferguson didn't quite say politics Bloody hell I'm just aware this time the morning look the the bright the brightness of the new day cruise is upon us and yet when people will be getting up this morning if they have slept through this they're going to be waking up to the news that there may be a new prime minister will Theresa May survive the next 24 hours is not a credible question labor. Who the mainstream media they some of the mainstream media played a fundamental part in underestimating what Jeremy carbon could achieve some of the political commentators the pollsters the pundits did not see this coming and a new way in British politics being talked about by some hard fold we don't know yet but it's going to be pretty spectacular either way Emma how would you sum this up to Stephen I've just walked out back into Westminster and the shadow of of a parliament that doesn't quite know where it is and if you were to say to me at the beginning of the night what we be sure of well I could be sure that I wouldn't be sure I mean I really didn't see how we could end this program without knowing where we stood and yet all these hours on we're in this situation let me just cross very quickly to a woman who's been with me all evening for Fessor politics Rosie Campbell what's been the moment for you that stands out for so many where you start Nick Clegg Alex Thurmond the Ukip vote down to 10 percent and it's been absolutely fascinating night and a fascinating night and if you do get a sense when you walk out here in see the beginnings of a new day that we're in a new political dawn just over the studios where you know how it gets on College Green with everybody setting up that sentence to his I can see Big Ben it is about see you chime at 5 am in the morning and it's charming 5 am with no certainty as mentioned Nick Clegg Alex Salmond Angus Robertson John Nicholson Gavin Barr Well the housing minister I interviewed him on 5 Live just a few weeks ago these are some of the big scalps there are no longer and he says they're not returning to Westminster and yet we still don't have a shape of what is still to come it's all still to play for so I think anything I can be certain about is we did all have a good feed we've all made it to this point and I can save say without much certain say thank you. Very much for everybody he's been with us and even now to Nikki and Rachel on breakfast. Is Alexion actual results coming through to us to resume a how to majority when she called this election and it looks like she's lost it and we're heading for a hung parliament. Election 1st with Rachel Campbell. Yep so a very good night for the Labor Party as it stands so far they are predicted to gain about 30 seats Jeremy Corbyn has called on the prime minister to resign Meanwhile the s.n.p. Has suffered losses in Scotland with former 1st Minister Alex Salmond the highest profile casualty and the Lib Dems are making gains part Nick Clegg has lost his seat. And could hold the key when all the votes are counted stick with us right here on. Your election results station the election results on b.b.c. 5. Good morning you're listening to election 1st on 5 Live on Friday the 9th of May You can hear the big one in the background I'm here on College Green and Rachel is in the studio in Seoul for what an extraordinary night it's another one down here frequently on College Green and we frequently have been saying in recent times what an extraordinary night another one saying the conservatives are expected to be the largest party when all of votes are counted but Labor has done much much better than expected Yes and if you're just waking up this morning if you've been with us through the night you'll know the story so far 7 hours since the polls closed we now have $600.00 of the $650.00 constituency results in labor as we've mentioned has gained around 30 seats now that includes Canterbury a seat which has been conservative since the 1st World War and also Sheffield kicked out the deputy ex deputy pm Nick Clegg our Political Correspondent Chris and Chris we've spoken on many occasion over the last 6 weeks not many people thought we'd be speaking now. And you would be saying what you're about to say and he's not about to say because he's not there and he will be there. And that's the nature of these programs what does it mean listen what does it mean for the prime minister will she stay will she go well 320 to resume a spoke in Maidenhead after comfortably holding on to her seat at this time more than anything else this country needs a period of stability and if as the indications have shown if this is correct that the Conservative Party has won the most seats and probably the most votes then it will be incumbent on us to ensure that we have that period of stability and that is exactly what we will do so that was Tories and I speaking just a little bit earlier it was a different vibe it is going to north where a few minutes earlier labor leader Jeremy Corbin held his seat with more than $40000.00 votes and he said to the crowds to reason I should step down the prime minister called the election because she wanted a mandate Well the mandate she's got is lost conservative states lost lost support and lost confidence I would have thought that's enough to go actually and make way for a government that will be truly representative of the people just. Speaking around an hour or so ago it's been a bruising night for the s.n.p. They've lost 20 seats to Alex Salmond and the Westminster leader Angus Robertson have both been beaten by the conservatives while other prominent M.P.'s out of a job right now this morning unless they've got some other ones include Tory manifesto writer Ben the last 2 years which speaks to Jane Ellison Public Health Minister losing to labor in Battersea and then in Sheffield Nicky the Lib Dems leader and ex deputy prime minister of course Nick Clegg losing out to Labor are going to show up from a political battles I've never retreated from the. Cicle battlefield I've always sought to stand by the liberal values I believe in but I of course encounter this evening something that many people have encountered before tonight's And I suspect many people will encounter after tonight which is in politics you live by the sword and you die by the sword die by the still but minutes now after that another live was back in politics Vince Cable regaining his seat into current Lib Dems need a Tim fire and was also reelected Well you can't last there were supposed to see Clacton to the conservatives the party leader Paul Nottle managed 3308 votes in Boston and Skegness coming 3rd behind the Conservatives and Labor I'm speaking if you can't could we be seeing a familiar face making a return to politics his Nigel Farage talking to David Dimbleby. What a huge error to pick a remain to lead breaks it past the other breaks election massive mistake I think that if we do get. A coalition then breaks it is in some trouble and if Greg sit inside is in some trouble will you come back into active politics and fight for what was voted for in the last summer I would have absolutely no choice but to do exactly about. 5 lives upon it spoke to Rachel Johnson the foreign secretary sister have you heard from. No I haven't you haven't but I've heard from her from Joe the other Protheroe who's a conservative politics. May day maybe. I should tell you John to say here and in Northern Ireland the s t l p have lost 3 of their all 3 I should say to seat the do you pay they may be very very fundamentally important in the coming to go they've won 10 seats and shifting has 7 now if the Conservatives need help to form a majority they will of course be looking to the d u p Christmas and I'm relieved to say is here he's just finished his stint on one program. Next time to bed how do is know as we dragged him in here and here with us for the next 5 hours how are you feeling fast of all it is just an absolutely astonishing night Rachel between you and me I'll let you into a little inside a half past 9 last night I was very lucky to be one of the few in the b.b.c. Was given advance notice of the of the exit of which has never happened before and I didn't think it would happen last night but it did and I'm glad I wasn't on the radio at the time because what I said was not broadcast cable I just simply thought Blimey that is absolutely incredulous any of us are going to hear it all there was that one poll wasn't that there was one poll about 10 days a year Gulf polling day time which came pretty close it was more than a polarized because they did have quite a lot granular analysis in terms of how things looked to particular states and to put that into perspective there was a huge amount of gnashing of teeth today in the senior bosses at the b.b.c. About whether we would even talk about it because it seemed to be such an outlier and it was an outlier and when you look at opinion polls you know you have to go with the trends and all the rest of it and yes they had narrowed but that one seemed to be still way way way out there you go we're putting a huge amount of political and professional credibility on the line it's very brave decision to publish even though they've done the research they did and they look like they have been entirely justified we should be clear labor of course haven't won it is off eels like they've won in a sense but what is the prediction now there's a real difference here isn't there between the numerical victory or the numerical count and the and the kind of moral count so because Labor were expected by many people to be thumped that is of course why too is my call this election in the 1st place the fact that they've gone forward allows them to claim a kind of moral victory and you saw that in the speech we just heard from Joe be called and meanwhile to reason might while still leading the biggest party in the biggest party by quite a margin we should emphasize that has gone backwards and so there's huge questions about what happens to her now still a good number of seats trundling end I'll be entirely honest with you Rachael having just one studio for the other I have not actually managed to log in in here yet so I still got not rotating so. Yes I was sort of almost symbolic of the sort of state of my brain at the moment so that's kind of that's where we are at the moment but it doesn't look like the conservatives will be able to cross the the magic number the finish line of 3 to 6 on their own Now if you factor in the likes of Shin Fein who have done very well that I don't like as I say that makes the finish line a little bit earlier if you like out in the Democratic Unionist Party who politically are relatively close to the conservatives that's how the conservatives may potentially be able to get over the winning line with a small majority if you are a democratic Unionist m.p. Or leader right now you'd be writing a dirty great big shopping rather now hands yes I 3 t. One is the number now they say need to hit is it I think so I think anyone I get it will be around. For any party that wants to form some sort of working majority Karni the conservatives down to 290 seats Labor on 250 right let's go back to Nikki at Westminster right now in Duncan Smith good morning. In Duncan Smith can you hear me I can almost hear me leader Yes I got you you know. You don't sound very happy and I'm not surprised you very much believe you're going to go for nearly 40 years how they forgive me and I understand you're on the go for 48 hours and things are going well you do have a spring in your step you must be better late disappointed people were talking not so long ago about a 3 think a majority than this sort of 60 plus 50 plus a. Lot of interest we haven't got the result that we would've hoped for I did never believe by the way that we were where they said the beginning it is of all those I did think however that we had a good chance of getting a reasonable working majority yes a lot of us to tell you that I was deeply disappointed in where we are I mean this evening is full of peculiar things for example the conservative vote is probably the highest it's been. Almost since I've been in Parliament really and we find ourselves losing seats. And voting my constituency actually went up to the nearly the highest level it's been. Reduced majority so you know this is this is an interesting time I think referendums shake things up. With you the Scottish referendum shook it up in Scotland and I think national referendum as shaking it up here people are more engaged in politics and we're beginning to see a 2 party race now in politics which means we have to rethink how we go about things. Like a snowstorm and a class bubble. What about the Westminster bubble a lot of politicians see this they don't understand the of the appeal. He was dismissed as an old bearded trot why he done far far better than people thought he would. But it's very difficult to go through this without thinking about it carefully but I'll be honest with you my instinctive sense on this is that we wanted to run a quick election it became a law. You know the words the debates then became about domestic issues. Through a manifesto people which said what you want we'll give it you need to be any more austerity and you know a lot number of people Ticky young people were tracked into the idea that there could be some big change and so often with these things if you've been in government for a little while and then along comes on that it says I can change all that we don't have to do all those things becomes attractive that was not how the election was meant to be fought it became like that. Instead of us being on what we think considered to be the front foot on bricks it where we want to go we need a mandate we became. Down I think in. Debates about the manifesto we've put forward which won't go down in history as the greatest one that we've probably ever written and. You know manifesto which basically said you can do all of this when the. You can't it's going to cost a lot of money but people they just want to hear that it's possible to change it that's the issue but having said that you know we haven't lost an election was still the largest the largest party and I don't know whether we'll make it over this line to be. The majority party but. We have the negotiations starting. Strong and stable because exactly where the country is at the moment it's not a good place at the moment let's be honest about it but I think the important thing is for us to 1st of all figure out exactly where we are and see the numbers because . I think it is wholly feasible for the conservatives as things look if we get this right to be able to form a government and I think that's our job to do because we have to do that because of the negotiations. And I think if we can do that then it's very important that we. In the next 24. Make those decisions calculations then get on with it because I think hanging around. Is not going to help us so we have to do it. I've been talking to you we've been talking to each other for many years now we. Know each other pretty well you know you're an honest man you're a man of integrity. Here's one. You know like. No I don't believe so and here's the reason that. We have to figure out look in the national interest there has to be government and Prime Minister to resign and we need to form that government if we possibly can and her job is to to be there and to figure out with her team whether or not we can get across the line. Of a party and if. We should engineer it and do it be. Because what is the most important thing at the moment is to get these bricks and process underway because the clock is already ticking and we don't have a lot of time to mess around so that is really really important and that is why I would say this is unusual territory but we owe it to the British people as the majority party and the one nearest the line to be able to transform that government ain't like a space that will bring you in someone else's 90 for a long time Chuck a marina neither is just anything to say to your colleague China or world and I go in to hi hi thank you very much thank you very much well he and I have been doing media throughout this general election campaign together and also during the e.u. Referendum campaign as well and well politics is often extraordinary and changeable but I think for me 2 big standout things from this general election campaign one was the prime minister went into it looking for a personal mandate to pursue an extreme job destroying Bracks it she has been robbed of any such mandate with the results that we see coming in and secondly she wanted to make it all about bricks and of course no general election would ever be confined to that single issue. Granted it affects so many others and she thought she could go into the general election not talking about other domestic issues not getting terribly involved with the campaign talking to people I don't think she's a natural campaigner and that was exposed and on the other side you had a Labor campaign which was a hopeful optimistic we did present a number of big eye catching policies which make a difference to people and it was a hopeful optimistic positive campaign and I think people generally that's what they choose they to Pope optimism what's your actual offer as opposed to a kind of negative fear driven campaign that we saw on the Tory side and that that's why you see these results as they are coming in now. And I guess maybe one entity to respond to that in any way well you know it was not a great campaign on. I can tell you and you know there are a lot of mistakes made and the honest truth is I said earlier on to Nikki that we had said that this was going to be a campaign in fact it didn't really be effective campaign it became a domestic campaign and there was a lot of domestic debate around you know each other's manifestos and we had a few problems the Labor Party won was a very much kind of what would you like to have and there's a lot of people who feel that maybe they're. Like to be out of a sturdy and somehow someone's going to wave a magic wand and say the British economy doesn't have to worry about it it will come good in the end you know there's a lot of people feeling like that and so whatever else that is the reality but having said that you know Labor hasn't won this election like the danger here of saying Labor came romping when one of the election they have. Their only end but I made what you made I would have to feel made earlier on if I can just ask you you mentioned that the mistakes were made in this election there is a perception as well that the more people saw to reason maybe less they like to she's not a troll. Media performer is she what mistakes were made. Well there is something in the. Tea leaves that tells you when you. When you call an election a snap election. You probably need to have make it a snap election for the other side not for yourselves that's always the problem in other words you need to be prepared so that when you have the snap election everything is set out I don't think we were I think the reality is that it was as much a surprise to us as it was to other parties and that means you're playing catch up throughout and that means you don't necessarily dominate the agenda so the key thing about an election campaign is you need to be on the front foot dominating the agenda of the public is listening to you say and measuring your elements against theirs and I don't think that really happened if you want to go down in a kind of exchange between manifestos and then of course we've had these terrible. Ghastly terrorist attacks which is totally change the nature of the campaign throw it back 1st of all took out some time in the campaign certainly you know it's just the whole debate then became about terrorism and about homegrown terrorism the more we do and that was never really meant to be in this campaign and so we never really got into the British you to be quite frank with you at all it was all domestic what you wanted to hear from Tucker Mooney before we have to let him go so I did not get his points out you have all this look I'm not new You're going to be able to put together any kind of you know working majority so why does the Labor Party take things from here. But I think is right to point out that of course you want to get into government and I think the big takeaway is that we've made a big leap towards government who knows we may be part of government very soon depending what the final results that roll in. The Labor Party we were formed 117 years ago not just to represent people workers in parliament but to actually govern in their interests to do so that's always got to be the goal but I think you know you're talking to a party that went into this election saying the Tories with 20 point lead over us and you know that's been smashed is not what has happened because the Labor Party's come together and unified around a popular vision for our country and I think we can all be very proud about what about Jeremy Corbett in his native 176 Chris Mason members of the Parliamentary Labor Party was the vast majority say I think it was roughly that figure. Because you're one of them are you. Yes and I was angry because I felt that we could afford a much better campaign to keep us in the European Union I think we've changed our mind now do you think that you think that all those naysayers need to turn around and say we have faith in Jeremy called it. But I think there's no doubt about it Theresa May has been totally thwarted from. Doing that extreme heartbreak because of the effectiveness of our campaign and we ran a superior campaign which Jeremy led So I think certainly from my point of view I mean it was the big issue for me. Delighted that she cannot now pursue that extreme hard job destroying you serve under Jimmy deserves good. Morning to actually I was an American here on. Go on Nicky Hi. Good morning i forgot Alicia mornings actually brought me here thank you very much yes but I never was asked to before and I've been very clear I want to get back into government and I will help and do whatever I can in any way to help make that happen but I don't presume that anybody's going to ask me to serve in a shadow cabinet let's not get out of ourselves. Thank you very much speaking to us from drafts and this morning in London it's a coming up to 20 minutes past 5 the story in Scotland Chris Mason fascinating story in Scotland is extraordinary because for so so long the conservative struggle to get anywhere in Scotland wiped out in 1907 nice to crawl back to having a single I'm paid and I've done incredibly well so well that if they'd replicated their performance in Scotland in England that have probably very comfortably got an overall majority and I just completely Topsy-Turvy Let's go to James show he's in Glasgow morning James morning Rachel what do you want to tell us from now well I would say the top line a night of shocks really we've had of course with as Chris said that comeback of the conservatives but also the former leader of the s.n.p. Alex Salmond losing his seat in Gordon is a really extraordinary result for the s.n.p. They weren't expecting that of course they would have been worried that Angus Robertson the party's Westminster leader was going to lose his seat in there by Murray and he did Mr Salmon sounded pretty depressed as he was giving his. After that declaration is golden constituency he said his party had suffered grievous blows but he always has a comeback Alex Salmond you also said I've not seen the last of my bonnets and me and that is a reference to an old Jacobite song of course the Scottish rebels against the u.k. Government in the 1700s but let's look also at Labor the conservatives of course they have made gains even the Liberal Democrats have increased their tally of seats you can't lose sight of the fact that the s.n.p. Still have the majority of M.P.'s in Scotland but what is clear is that they fall and back from the extraordinary result 2 years ago in 2015 when they had $56.00 out of $59.00 M.P.'s and also as Chris was suggesting there it's just an extraordinary reversal of fortunes for them but it's almost like it was a different election in Scotland and indeed to you was absolutely key and I think the results show you Rachel that's absolutely right it was a totally different election people in Scotland I guess focus more on the independence referendum referendum issue than they did on. Or indeed the leadership of Theresa May and you have to look at the roots Davidson who has this success under her belt and perhaps contrast. With Theresa May in the rest of the u.k. Thank you very much tax Nikki what a bloody disaster for the Marxists could record defense Corben is a useless waste of space what in God's name is the electorate thinking the pound has fallen our economy will be hit to the floor if I could emigrate I would and here's another one Peter in Ipswich to resume a calling for a period of stability for the country she called an election just before break that negotiations were due to start she's caused all the instability. Of course we want to hear your reaction right throughout the morning and if you're just waking up to the news if you've been up all night tell us what you're thinking 8558 to send us a text at b.b.c. 5 live on social media. You just said bloody and all the time I've been working with you I've never heard you use such language it wasn't mine it was somebody else's Ok in context that's your argument is it I need smelling So I think we have here. That's good. Montgomery. Flipping heck yeah conservative analyst as we all know morning that wasn't supposed to be this way. When do you Gov pinion polls appeared saying that we were. Disbelieved but. You just. Program I used to used to work for him but on this occasion I have to disagree with him I don't think to reason make an escape blame for that she hasn't just lost her authority in the British parliament and amongst the parliamentary party I think she's very much a reduced figure now I'm on the European stage and I think it makes it much harder to represent the country in the breaks at negotiations. She called this election because she said she wanted a clear mandate so that she could go to Brussels and negotiate the kind of brags that she set out and clearly she's fallen short in the task and there are no good options at this stage and I don't relish the prospect of another change in conservative leader Prime Minister but I think that is where we will be within a matter of hours I can't think that she will survive for very long at all to whom will the mantle fall mantles the hardest question. Has survived the home secretary very closely for race in Hastings but winning with a majority of only just over 300 isn't exactly a great launchpad for her campaign another b. Word Boris Boris I think has to be in the in the frame. Whether people think he's the right person to lead very complex negotiations that's tricky but he's certainly a vote winner which the concert is they feel they need ahead of what is very likely in all to. General election than I would probably facing as a country. She will be in despair this prospect and I think look at David Davis as well if we are at the beginning it's very complex negotiations no one is closer to those negotiations than him Tim sorry Syrian regime I think we have some great going on from highly Family Guy 1311. Peter Carlisle label 36009. 113 Green party 971 Charlie Sable independent 197 the number of pot of papers rejected was as follows once of official Mark 0 voting for more than for more than the music number $27.00 I'm going to walk on Mom's runs going to total number of project to close $120.00. Thank you very much I would like to start by thanking the Returning Officer accounting stall for working so incredibly hard tonight and all the emergency services that made this election safe I'm incredibly well run the whole campaign. I also want to thank from the very bottom of my hall the team and the volunteers who work day in day out not just during the day but right through the night on this campaign thank you so you so much. And I also want to say that I started this campaign thinking that I desperately wanted to hold on to that little red dawn in the south east of England . Not only held on to the little red don't in the south of England there are now plenty more right across the region. And none of those cults makes me happier than Lloyd can come town. Residents in the heart of imports late have done something remarkable they stood against a reason maize demand unlimited power they rejected the simplistic national choices that she put forward and returning to the roots of democracy they demonstrate that this election was about local people choosing their local m.p. They return to the great truths about democracy that it is electors who win elections not politicians and I know from listening to so many of the residents and hope importantly that they thought long and hard about casting their votes. Over the past few weeks my team if I Thousands upon thousands of conversations in every corner of the diseases. He was the sitting on pay for labor he's held on to see Chris may send no great surprise there but it looks like he's increased his majority Yeah and it's the kind of seat they would have feared losing on the night that wasn't quite so good for them. On the kind of scorecard where we are 528 now 619 seats to clad 32 to go just bring you a couple of of the results that we've had since we came on air at 5 o'clock give you some sense actually of how he will be people do some of the results are liberal Democrats again from the conservatives in Oxford West and Abingdon that's a backlash against a brick set in a university city that voted overwhelmingly to remain conservatives taking a seat in Stoke on Trent kind of expect the conservatives to wade hasn't been as good for them as they would hope but they've managed to oust Rob Britton elected an interesting result just come in in the last minute in North St saying we've had a majority of just 589 last time out a massive critic of Jeremy Corbyn has been reelected with a majority of 10 percent higgledy piggledy Nikki Topsy-Turvy harum scarum make sense of these results. Harem scarem. Toggled boggle as morning. Conservative analyst we are hearing that from a Tory h.q. There are reports suggesting that we are hearing that she may well be writing a speech to be delivered later this morning we would expect that if you were to help her with that speech what would the gist of it be I think she should set in process a. Process a little replacement but I don't think she should leave the stage immediately the country needs some continuity in negotiations do starts in just a matter of days if she's repeatedly said but well of course the key facts that she didn't talk so much about in the campaign is that not until the much later stated to negotiation is the prime minister need to be involved in negotiations will be carried forward initially by the secular state for Bret's and David Davis who will be our representative opposite the e.u. Official So it is perfectly possible for the Tories to have a leadership contest put in place a prime minister that will have the confidence of Parliament and that race to take place alongside the Brits in negotiations getting underway and brief the European conservative m.p. Has called for Mrs May to go. Finally completely collapsed Yup Ukip is almost the next party. Only reason trees are still in contention is because of the collapse of Ukip it's because of Davidson's extraordinary leadership of the Scottish Conservative Party the only place in the country where the concert has really done well. This campaign has said it was to resign manifesto it was to reason conservatives she's run the Conservative Party since she became leader from a bunker in Downing Street hard to take anybody else's advice not consulting. She has to take responsibility for the public but I think at the beginning it looked like she had a large opinion that she enjoyed but I think we projected an idea of who we thought we were how does Prime Minister on to her chances in the famous Peter Sellars film being that 1st come spring summer exactly and people interpreted the little we knew of as being profound and important and then it's a very dangerous thing to call a snap election where actually the public don't really know you when they discovered a slightly robotic slightly unimaginative. Politician who wasn't really making a return offer to people but we've seen the result today in the. Parliament. Thank you very much indeed we want your reactions all morning of course we want to text we want your comments on Facebook we've got some texts. Coming through Thanks Jim See you later. Opposition are sort of opposite of strong and stable is weak and. Somebody may be a little. I kiss you back a more fair play to labor for doing as well as they have considering all the tabloids have mercilessly. People see through the lies says Dave apply Comey supporter in Flint. Calling for a period of stability for the country she called an election just before negotiations were due to start she's caused all the instability from Peter in Ipswich the public have made a case has only and most of that they want a personality time to roll out the big guns Boris for number 10 there will be taught Chris Mason of course to reason may consider her position with everybody who at her might stand up and say Next please yeah they'll be text messages flying around at the moment already happening yeah yeah we were hearing much much earlier . In the nights when there was even some still casting down some of the ways that I whether the exit poll would be accurate that being out for support Yeah exactly exactly because things are so fluid How often is it in politics that she's felt quite often recently but how often is it in politics that you're having a conversation as we are now and we can't quite be certain he'll be prime minister at lunch time and in that kind of flew with that kind of fluidity and with a night which has taken the political class completely by surprise if your an ambitious conservative you're bound to think who might get job going I wonder if those people who would bark maybe that's bound to happen and there's nothing there's nothing personal laudable thing to aspire to do is not to run the country and what a job it will be with 10 days to go until the breaks at the ocean start imagine trestles waking up this morning thinking well who's going to go on the Eurostar I mean we just don't know extraordinary times but you thought we did by now yes that conventional wisdom has had a rough few years and so it continues but let's bring you the story of the night there and it's $534.00 the election results. Here's what you need to know good morning if you're just waking up by the way to reason May's gamble of calling an early general election appears to have backfired with 622 seats declared the conservatives are said to be the biggest party in the Commons but without an overall majority the latest prediction is the Tories will take $318.00 seats with labor on $262.00 the s.n.p. On $35.00 and the Lib Dems on 13 to reason why he was comfortably reelected says her party should provide the stability the country needs by forming the next government but the party is from a business minister and a super He says Mrs By has some tough decisions to make after what she said was a shocking night for the Tories. I think she's in a very difficult place she's a remarkable She's a very talented woman and she doesn't shy from difficult decisions but she now has to obviously consider her position obviously we behind the results we see need see where we are the trees are did put her mark on this campaign meanwhile the home secretary just clung on to her seat after a series of recounts and her Hastings constituency Labor leader Jeremy Corbyn regained is going to North constituency with a 15 percent higher share of the vote than in 2015 he says tourism a should step aside for a new government that is truly representative of the country and Scotland the s.n.p. Is still the biggest party but it's lost 20 seats with 11 going to the Tories among its biggest losses are Robertson the party's Westminster leader and Alex Salmond Scotland's 1st Minister. For the Liberal Democrats the party's former leader Nick Clegg lost his seat but former Business Secretary Vince Cable and former energy secretary at Davy have returned to Parliament after losing their constituencies in 2015 and Ukip share of the fight was down by nearly 11 percent the party has failed to win a single seat and that is the story as it stands this morning 536 let's get a quick look at the sport and his jaw markings Thank you good morning shoreline has beaten the Champions Trophy holders India leaving great the wide open they chased down the 322 needed for victory at The Oval to win by 7 wickets England's footballers have reached the final of the under 20 World Cup for the 1st time they beat a silly $31.00 Sunday's opponents will be Venezuela Leicester City have named Craig Shakespeare is that permanent manager whilst Manchester United are not expected to offer as lot and Abraham of edge a new contract Andy Murray says he'll need to find his best tennis to beat Stanford in today's French Open semifinal rough an adult takes on Dominic team Latvia's Elaine Austin Penco has become the 1st unseeded player to reach the final at Roland Garros in 34 years she'll place and I know how that Tom Carey Alex lots of ski Harry Williams and Mark Wilson will all make their debuts for England's Rugby Union Saudi against Argentina on Saturday then Ainslie's Great Britain seem have been knocked out of the America's Cup these in 5 teach New Zealand in the challenges semifinal Britain's c.j. Usual won the men's 100 meters at the Diamond League athletics in rhyme and in Super League Les have moved off the bottom of the table thrashing Wigan 50 points to $34.00. Now. I want to be doing really. Well. Beyond reasonable doubt the program the pod cast coming soon from 5 baby sea radio. 5 Live Chris Mason Our political. Spondon for people waking up to the world at 537 this Friday morning what would you like to say to them so here we are with 625 seats 25 to go the conservatives currently short by 24 of a majority Labor a short by 7 say here are a couple of results that we've got interest the last couple of minutes the conservatives holding Hampshire northeast very safe territory for them in south as well in South London on a spot where 5 Live trundled during the election campaign them free. In the Scottish Borders just had a result another conservative gain in Scotland that they've taken out seats from the s. And p. So another gain for the conservatives in Southwest Scotland one of the stops for you Nikki so far 192 women M.P.'s have been elected that is a record. It's a patchwork quilt isn't it and there are different patterns everywhere in the country Scotland being particularly interesting. She seemed to have had a very good campaign and there are there's a strain of Tories You know Ruth. You makes you wonder if she rushes now that she'd stood for Westminster herself because had she done it would have been people a sizeable people like me so you could she be the next Conservative leader because she seemed to be sort of intellectual gold dust for the conservatives remember all those jokes Nikki about the being more pandas in Scotland than Conservative M.P.'s Scotland being territory that was impossible for the conservatives Davidson building them up in the Scottish Parliament now building them up in. As well and for so long but the mantra from the s.n.p. Was look you know you have to pay because otherwise Scotland gets a Tory government inflicted on it because of the votes of England or Wiles the opposite is the case arguably now and that if the conserve suppose. Anywhere near as well in England as they appear to be doing in Scotland comfortably what a majority it's a good night for unionism in Scotland Good morning it's 530. 540 Rachael the latest predictions from John Curtis are numbers not of course the b.b.c. He's suggesting that the conservatives will end up with 316 seats and labor on 295 so that's getting very close to what the exit poll was pretty actually and that would be down 15 of course and the point he makes is that Labor will be delighted they've denied the conservatives an overall majority but their own success he says shouldn't be exaggerated the tally of $265.00 seats is only 7 up on the total that the party won in 2010 when Gordon Brown's office was attacked Yeah I don't remember the whole point of a parliamentary democracy as you aspire to win Labor haven't worn and haven't come close to winning the reason there is so much surprise around that result is because the expectations for Jeremy Corbyn were south of the basement and he's managed to obviously exceed those by quite a margin but he hasn't come close and it would take quite an assembly of a hodgepodge Rainbow Coalition for labor plus a whole struggle of the other more minor parties to stitch together some sort of some sort of coalition you know excluding the party that clearly would have won the most seats by quite a margin in the conservative he talks about a patchwork quilt of results and of course one area which is going to be crucially important in deciding who will govern this country is Northern Ireland let's cross to our correspondent Chris page he's out accounts in Belfast at the moment and Chris bring us up to date on what's happened there overnight Well all the results in all the constituencies really a very dramatic night in Northern Ireland the biggest 2 parties have cleaned up the d u p a Democratic Unionist Party winning 10 seats to. Been winning 7 seats is a gain of 3 the other successful m.p. Was the independent unionist lady Sylvia Hermann the 2 smaller parties in Northern Ireland the nationalist. Ulster Unionist Party completely wiped out by the d u p. P losing 3 seats on the Unionist party nobody really expected results its results as a result it's beyond the. Dreams Really it is beyond the s.t.l. P. And also unionist parties worst nightmares I should think the day you paid in a strong position they believe in any parliament those 10 seats could be pretty critical particularly given that the d.p. Were the only party in Northern Ireland that strongly supported that and suggested Donaldson speaking earlier. Tonight to be honest in many ways and already setting out to still saying he thought they were in a very strong position to negotiations and what do you think somebody. Hospitals and schools and. Do you think he's going to be after Well it's interesting the d.p.p. Are certainly playing the cards pretty close to their chest that this particular moment in time as you'd expect ever getting a few years I think yes some financial assistance for Northern Ireland could be something that they would be after also very strongly emphasising the want to get the best possible deal for Northern Ireland and for the u.k. They say. That and also that the people leave it's really strengthened their hand in the goosey actions to restore the bald government so there's been a new government at Stormont since it collapsed in January talks to restore that will resume next week so the d.p. Think they're now in a much better position with an increased mandate going into those negotiations over the peace sources I've been speaking to over the last few hours helping them for sizing that they recognize that they are in a very important position not just for the future. Their party but also for the future of the British government and for the future of the country may say they will be approaching any negotiations in that spirit a crisp a psych you very much will catch up with you again later of course and there has been a fascinating way of agents of the political chess in Wales as well let's go to 5 lies much since he set the count in Cardiff which is I think well and truly down by now Mark is all for here in fact I'm the last person left here virtually they're packing up the stage and had better get out to see one another bloke who will leave the party and I stuck in the kitchen people saying look please go home but it it has been a triumphant night ready for Labor very much exceeding the expectations you look back to those early polls of the campaign that were predicting that the Tories could actually win the general election in Wales Well far from it Labor picked up 3 seats from the conservatives winning back to see to cower in the way of through it and that they lost to labor at the last election also picking up the swing seat of Cardiff North with quite a comfortable majority a quick word with a defeated conservative candidate then who said that the prime minister's decision to call this election was in his would brave and courageous and he then wouldn't expand on his own definition of those are pretty good terms and we look at other counties as well we don't wait on just one result no in Wales and I think have a degree on and on a couple of recounts point come re think they have one last are certainly some sources are saying that and they would defeat the Lib Dems if that's the case and that would mean that the 1st time there hasn't been a liberal in Wales representing wins in Westminster since $1815.00 online So point to a mix up of fortunes here it would mean that point Kerry how to build a mixed mind up to this point but if they played again that seat they would come for and would like to think they'd have a bit of leverage in any coalition talks that might follow and let me just read you as well one quote from a real. Elected Labor m.p. He. Said as a young person myself only half way through my parliamentary career I'm finding this very exhilarating and that comes from 82 year old reelected Paul Flynn thank you very much Mark. 10. Talking to us from the. Very optimistic view of the way. This is the best outcome all parties come together there's been too many rivalries we need more respect between. And I think a coalition is unlikely to have the Guardian journalist labor support a staunch supporter of. Paul Mason joins us now Paul good morning good morning. Why has been done much better than so many people expected Well I think people appealed to 3 sets of people 1st of all students and prospective students because 9000 pounds a year versus 0 is quite a big difference he appealed to young mums and young dads with kids at school who are facing you know the result of spending cuts and very very tough you know wages and conditions you know 0 hours contracts low pay and I think that you know we did actually managed to appeal to parts of Middle England and elderly England $65.00 people over $65.00 was a major advance for labor there so it was only economics and it was I think a lot of people look to the manifesto and thought well this is like a bit of old vinyl from 20 years ago we're better than what we've been listening to 20 years. When new political territory here because the received wisdom has always been that you can only win from the center this is the problem I think going on the doorstep in various parts of the country to the conclusion that the center Almost no longer exists in its own form no they're all people on the doorstep conservative supporters who you know the. We've been really opposed to Jeremy Corbin but immigration to the fact that some people get into the g.p. So we've got to put it kindly xenophobia give him permission to speak and then on the left the people are very genuinely enthused by the idea of a left wing Labor Party that has broken through free market economics and in the middle I'm not sure what there is. Is the Labor Party still a broad church I think it has to because it has to rekindle that aspect of it I would be calling this morning for friends and colleagues in the Labor Party who have not been prepared to be part of Colvin's team to come back on board I mean we've that's the 1st thing the 2nd thing is we we've way we've won we've won because Greens have stood aside all given those votes and we've also taken a 3rd of Ukip no. No that's quite a broad coalition of voters to be trying to hold together but I think what we can hold them together on above all is the idea of social justice the idea of a society where everybody puts in and everybody gets out and nobody goes hungry and we get decent wages and and if you work you get a contract of employment guaranteeing you some hours I think that could hold the Greens in the you keep us together if nothing else can. Maybe see forecasting a hung parliament. Where does this leave it all. In about place the negotiations are meant to start in 10 days I think there is no mandate no for trees a maze harbor exit plan as laid out in the. Host speech there's certainly no Monday Monday for walking away without a deal and therefore it's no it's no incumbent on labor and the other parties to come forward with a proposal for I think we're going to have to come forward with a more concrete sized soft bricks that plan I would put some kind of a unique deal a bit like Norway. Switzerland. Is very clear from this election that's what the majority of people want they do not want to resume a. Good night good morning good day for the remainder No no I think. Here's why our negotiating partners. In Brussels 27 of the European states. Because we have we can. Buy. It without a plan think about the outcome of that referendum we know we can position again by rejecting the government that chosen to do it. To gain strength in this negotiating round begins very soon. With something that the majority of people in parliament. Be calling for is some kind of institutional framework for cross party scrutiny. There's nothing that says it has to be the government that leads we could just as easily have formed and could still form a. Committee. Of all the different strands of opinion and they could lead the negotiations. But what we've also chaotic. We must do something to to strengthen and stabilize Britain's negotiating position. Paul thanks for talking to us the. Guardian journalist. Yeah it looks like he. Liberal Democrats I think I'm right in saying that we are still awaiting the formal declaration in Richmond but the conservatives are looking pretty positive one of the major stories of these election results is the turnout and the turnout of the younger voters joy to take us through the start if you have any to hand on that because it really has had quite an impact I don't have any numerical starts what what's fascinating about this is that labor a base a lot of potential for progress on entice thing lots of young people out getting them to register to vote and then getting them to vote 246000 young people registered to vote on Monday which was the final date for registering over a 1000824 year olds registered overall since the election and there's a huge amount of skepticism from critics of labor including those within the party who weren't Yukito Jeremy Corbyn that's Ok you want people to vote and lots of them are saying on social media that they will vote will they actually be bothered to turn out and it looks like from Jeremy cauldrons perspective that lots did I was talking to Jack Straw Rachel in the middle of the night on the election special a former Labor Cabinet minister and he was suggesting that young people in his view as a remain a year ago turned out a year might. Be like the voters but that doesn't get a little bit with this kind of turnout John talking speaking on 5 Live earlier said it was the 1st election since 1980 that the majority of 18 to 24 year olds voted of course they had what would appear now to have been a very effective social media campaign it wasn't just Facebook it was snapped up bringing in all kinds of kind of cool kids to come and put the labor message across and it seems to have of worked and it seems to have secured them victories in seats frankly just a couple of days ago very few people gave them gave the much chance including Sheffield where the former leader of the Liberal Democrats Nick Clegg lost his seat to labor. From a political I've never. Retreated from the political battlefield I've always sought to stand by the liberal values I believe in but I've also encountered this evening something that many people have encountered before tonight and I suspect many people will encounter after tonight which is politics you live by the sword you die by the sword. Writes a quick word from Chris we can now say that there will be a hung parliament so there are 18 seats left to declare the conservatives are 18 sure even if the conservatives who were to win every single remaining seat is yet to declare they wouldn't have an overall majority but we have a hung parliament this is the moment so this is the most melt this is the moment the conservatives will not be able to cross the finish line and have an overall majority or into hung parliament totally yet again let me explain what that actually means it means that the conservatives haven't managed to assemble an overall majority it means that either and it depends of course on how the remaining 17 seats go either they're going to attempt to govern as a minority or you might see them attempting to do a deal for instance with Northern Ireland's Democratic Unionist Party if the numbers add up we don't yet know because we've still got those 17 seats to go or do you get a situation where labor and a combination of lots of other parties trying to assemble some sort of Rainbow Coalition themselves labor at the moment just to put this into perspective if you're just getting up and turning on the radio this morning Labor 69 seats short so they are well well while short and you add on the s.n.p. That wouldn't get labor on the lot over the line you had on the liberal Democrats who by the way don't want to do a deal anyway that wouldn't get labor over the line so we wake up to a bit of a parliamentary math so if you're just waking up this morning then let's reiterate that for you the result of this general election is that the although the conservatives have won the most seats it is likely to be it's going to be now we know for sure a hung parliament no party will have an overall majority but let's go. Sheffield run pretty sad Nick Clegg as I mentioned last to see how he and the not morning run Good morning yet we're in Sheffield Hallam what was Nick Clegg's constituency up until a few hours ago the sun is coming up over Sheffield bright blue skies above our heads and the final few students the hard core are finally waking their way back to their holes of residence after being up all night watching the election results the ball I am reliably informed shouts at 5 am and the final struggle is in making their way back 3 of them are in front of me now we have Henry we have down and we have George so Henry is from the Sheffield Labor students I won't give you a price for guessing how he voted down a cent and George both voted for the Lib Dems and since the 1st time. Why do you think Nick Clegg lost it I think. What's happening is a movement in the country where obviously with the transit election and the little break breaking that promise promise on the on the Phase I think there was a swathe of voters deciding over time that the Lib Dems are not a party to represent us and I think then was happened is people realised Jameco but on their part to get off a true different opinion I mean traditionally young people don't turn out to vote what do you think it was that motivated this time as opposed to say 2 years ago when Nick Clegg held this yeah I think a lot of things for example we have a lot of pos s. Or pop culture references have actually side this time to endorse Jim Coburn which is helps a lot I think those people are this time relies on German Goban that I vote to make a change and I think that is why people call and it drives a person last time so it sends a down to solving bizarrely a general cold in Moscow they voted Lib Dem What was it like watching Nick Clegg go down I think was gutting I think it's actually disappointing the Nec I think unfortunately I don't know if he'd of this seen it coming I think that. The constituency kind of could see it coming there's definitely a big movement within the labor within the the shooter to support the. Passy definitely wanted for Nick George do you think his u. Turn is still held over him the tuition fees issue yeah definitely something that Stephanie stuck to the Shouldn't the chef and probably every university in the country so a lot of social media things I've seen everyone has a lot of what was Nick Clegg of the Liberal Democrats for that you tell me just a treasure of is how much do you think the social media campaign by the way with r.c. Was a motivating factor out I think as a matter of fact I think especially campaigns like Dr Corbin for example was very inspiring to the youth that students their cards they can connect with and I also think because Colvin was so different to the mainstream what we used to do I think that was something that inspired you to do you do would you agree yeah definitely I think corporate is a very different change to what people traditionally seen in the Conservative Labor Party and those are the main attraction to young people I mean I think let's not forget a Labor Party have one yeah we have not one current We are looking at Home Parliament but I think what we should take out benefits this is we have got the youth so infused and I'd be a long time coming for election we're looking at I mean 92 since the youth been in these drives and I think that is the main sort of work you say is the use of popularity of the club and not what you think the future is for the Lib Dems if they think they're probably going to increase the number of M.P.'s but really a bit of a spent force to thing no I wouldn't have a spent force I think the message is that they're campaigning for still really important I think that the messages of. Especially one that should be remembered by the Labor Party perhaps going forward because they haven't been entirely on what their back the message is and so I think hopefully that will still remain a.

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