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Step of the moon was was wide estimated 530000000 people on live television in July 969 when you consider how many T.V. Says they were around the world sorry that's a lot of people it's a lot of people you know in my home city of Lagos Nigeria that have been kids or gathered around the one person in the entire neighborhood who had a television set beef 50 kids all around peering in through their open living room window whatever might be and those just my memories and talk about your memories tonight of the moon landing if anything text me on 8558 or e-mail up on my B.B.C. Doc. And still with us is Dr Joe Dunkley astro physicist at Princeton University in New Jersey I don't know about you don't you don't keep it. Coming I kind of got a little kind of like flutter of a butterfly inside me when the moment came. You know it's I mean I mean I just disagree here you know rehearing mad now if. You know if it ever happening you just think. You think my God this is incredible so I felt like you actually I So you know that feeling it's like this is this this was amazing this is so momentous So yeah I that's that's that's how I feel here yet again that you same professor that you're too young to remember the actual mean lending belief or you don't do nothing wrong with being young nothing wrong with the young but do you remember when you 1st heard about it as a child or otherwise well you know I think I don't remember the 1st moment but I just remember it being something that. Was it happened and I guess a little bit you know as I took it better granted because it had already happened there was this great success you know that was something we could do was people of the mood. But I do you you know I had this I think imbedded in a host this strong you know image of this big mass that is being missing says that not a big mess this this sort of you know just so incredibly achieving. You know you could send 10 people today this. Idea do you think you know having grown up with the fact that it had happened happened already I did just think it was yet this is what we could do you know what I think you make a really important point for my generation it was extraordinary because you know we've never dreamed of it it's more extraordinary obviously I think it's fair to say nowadays and for men to get into space as much as I want to not the Russians they did well they beat the Americans to space you know we get there yeah we. Many of us would have flown in airplanes and you know it's on the way to space is that when you fly 1000 feet you know you kind of that's right yeah you get that a little bit. Through the atmosphere is a different thing entirely I gather but actually step or another planet where we as human beings. Have along we've been on this planet have been rooted to the idea of stepping on another planet I don't think any other space exploration will be feeding well yet you know I think that I'm sure well it should show that another day another exploration might not be. A feeling of the person who got to do it but I think that going to if we can get to Mars that would be something of that that would be the next step and I think that would be you know that would be an even bigger thing of course it's a bigger thing. You know the Moon is a different. Yet it's not it's not it's something separate but I think to me it's like. That's not the end of our exploration that's a step Tenet Cyc you know many years ago people would have left their country and sailed off around to some place around the world that would be different Tia you know 50 years ago the main was after until. And I think it's keep going and the better be something better. Is going to be something more impressive that we're going to do because we're not we're not finished. Professor. We've got. A group of us who's watching the celebrations. And Space Museum in Washington what's the atmosphere like there no other. It's very slight this year. You know a lot of wonder in all at this moment looking back 50 years from that historic moment when Neil Armstrong for his placed his left foot on the moon and to celebrate that there was a giant astronaut boot made of believe that was lowered from the ceiling to mark the occasion I was very sweet you saw the kids here gathered with future astronaut T. Shirts others taking out their phone to snap the moment and you really just did get the sense that even 50 years later this mission has united Americans against this you know historic achievement Why do you think people gathered at the Air and Space Museum in Washington people been telling you why they left their homes or perhaps why they chose this place to gather and to celebrate Rob negroes. Yet you know in D.C. There really has been this celebre Torrie atmosphere you've had the Washington Monument you've had the. Project on the national monument to mark the occasion and here they have the lunar module that was used in test flight. That looks like the eagle you have Neil Armstrong's original space suit here covered in moon dust and so I think people here thought this was the best place to get an authentic piece of what happened to not just see the relics from the mission but to look back at the footage and experience it and I think the main part of it is you know this is such a big moment for this next generation many people who didn't really get to live it at the time who were experiencing it and they wanted it to do that in a special way and so I think that's why many people here wanted to be together for this Americans for a for a vote with the love for the moon for many years you know there were they went back or not did you think this celebration this. Marking this anniversary boom reinvigorated some of that love that they had and the the drive that America had 9069 to reach them and. Yeah you know it's interesting because the Apollo program did and in 1972 and this generation has grown up taking for granted the fact that man's been on the moon but it's been interesting to see the debate about you know why haven't we gone further in the last 50 years and also the debate about why is it that you know if governments are not just focused on space exploration now but it's also private companies and how will that change the way we look about space exploration in the future and what man seeks to do in space and I think what this anniversary has done is made people think about all of that and what our future will look like and what we should be achieving I mean it's been interesting just to hear the debates about diversity you know wanting a woman to be on the moon as well wanting to recruit more young women certainly the director here at the National Air and Space Museum. Has it that this event has been so important for her this anniversary has been so important to her because she wants to inspire this young generation you know women young girls young boys minorities to also think about careers down the line in space exploration so I think it is just this this sense of using this occasion to refocus people on the future in order Thank you you know to talk at the Air and Space Museum in Washington where they're passing markets 969 you have a professor Joe Dunkley from the Princeton University in New Jersey is with us still you know not to touch on the for 50 years on it's private companies that we look to to further space exploration rover than government sponsored. Associations like NASA is there's a few Gee do you think can private companies have the planet so humanity's interest in the way that NASA did I think we're going to see a loss partnerships actually and we already say I mean I think that that's absolute I completely agree I think I'm saying things are companies. Space X. . And Boeing making these huge advances but they've been working quite closely with NASA say for example our Space X. Center sent up a mission to the space station just recently that they've got on to way and so I can see you know a future where. Where crew space exploration happens through this partnership between the companies and the agencies and you know from my perspective that would be ideal because you know you've got the companies who are really pushing forward but you know I think that. As you alluded to you want to make sure everyone's got you know humanity's best interests at heart having having some governmental agency and make sense of course America owes it to the Russians because they probably wouldn't have learned the man on the moon in 1989 and the president would have insisted upon it when he made that speech and Bryce university was in 196-162-6161 extension 61 Yeah and you know it wasn't for the Russians that it was that the Russians gave America kick up the backside Well yes I think you're you know you get a good deal of healthy competition is a good thing and that was yes struck by is the key you know looking back at this this is that what you want I think a bit of competition is good clearly that. The Russian influence how out or that you know wanting to one thing to compete but looking but looking back at it you know it succeeded because the US government was committed to this or that you know full deck. Kate and put the funding in for it because these things and come cheap so if you want to do something like this you've got to decide to get Sunday against it to go short and I think that's that's that's what happened that decades kind of astonishing to me actually looking back to in 1061 they said we're doing it by the end decade and never 1016 they manage the maze completely bonkers it took a decade. Being flying in space a man handing on the moon is just bunkers isn't it when you and also when one thinks about the kids that they had quite apart from the old Luna modules. Exactly exactly we saw the splash down in the Atlantic Ocean without the rest of the body because all the rest. Be burned whereas nowadays you see those space shuttles where you saw the space shuttle fly a come back only one prays and not to talk of all the computing hardware available man hour if you think about more was achieved in that decade considering all those restrictions it's probably quite primitive kit that they had in those days. When and now that we've got so dash Moehringer the Russians are in competition with. Doesn't seem as if we've achieved 110th as much as we had then. But it has always tried to do I think 11 thing is that you know NASA has been doing extraordinary amounts of stuff in the intervening 50 years and . A lot of that has has been stuff that's just that's not crude missions right that's the NASA you know the main landings. Broadcaster into being but but since then they do so much more and I think that's maybe something that's not so much in the public perception. All of the missions to visit Jupiter visit Saturn and visit other places that without people on board I mean all the telescopes that they've launched out into space pointing at it taught us so much I'm setting my science I use a use you know NASA satellites and I guess I have the main program to thank you know get. Inspired to do these things as I have not been you know doing an awful lot. You know you mentioned earlier on and you said the that's going to be the moon I'm looking. Will the atmosphere be more or less hospitable for humans than the moon. Will be hard just getting there be much much higher it. Just makes it's just so much further away you know you get that the main in in a few days for it will take you know to go. On for a year to get to Mars. And you know I do it I'm a hospital right you could neither the moon or Mars kitschy you just stand a person up without their oxygen and and have them and have them sterilized so in a way you know yet Mars is left to space a pole but both places you would need serious equipment for having people you don't be there she wants to build a base either when they may know of us. But that might be a Mars is a solid it's a solid planet it's not it's not it's you know not too far away compared to other things in our so. System. So people certainly have plans of how we could you know how you could have set up possible bases have people. Wired What book would read learn from having people on Mars will. Obviously knew Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin had to go humans had to go to the moon we didn't have the sort of existing. Robotic alternatives that we might have today why do we have to go to what is a human being have to go to Mons What does think to me. Interesting question to me actually it's kind of the same is going to the moon and I actually that some people actually would say that we need to go to Mars because we should be colonizing the solar system I personally don't think that's true you know we can we can learn about it look at it. But you know I don't think we have to get people somewhere else in the solar system I think we should keep our planet safe primarily to me it's about exploration and frontiers. You know it's it's it's trying to do you trying to push us as far as we possibly can go and that might be going to Mars but it might be doing other things too that's why I think you know what has to make really careful choice about what we spend money on. But I think it's and it's within us as humans to try and you know again push our frontiers as far as we can get and I think that's the best step that took us to the moon you know we still are out there can we actually get people there. Pushing our front is about. Intellectual frontiers Rover physical front you know I think yes I think it's both I think so I think we can push you know we've already actually if we think about how much space we can look at Understand we can see far. Using just telescopes even here on Earth and we can certainly send out probes without people on board but you know we would enter as you know humans humans avoidance to explore again just exploring on our own US We want to know what's out there we want to see what we can. You know what we as humans can achieve so I think that you know just even I think lots of people seeing that it's possible to go to the mainland on the moon that will have inspired so many people to become scientists and engineers. And approved dose. Of we learned from a promo 11 for one where the interesting things when the questions people had well the very system kinds of questions one question we have a scientist actually is how did the moon even had the head of the moon get made in the 1st place. I mean like are they made the same stuff did they come you know to the moon just kind of get broken off the birth in a big crash you know at the beginning of the solar system and you can try and I answer that question by actually collecting works from the moon which he really can only do by getting them and so some of the samples that are brought back from Apollo 11. Told us that you know yet the main has got is made of stuff that pretty much like the earth but also difference just to it's not completely the same as a stuff made from and so probably that you know whatever created the moon happened in something you know it was probably at to be at the objects in the. But is system involved in these collisions that made and I mean there are these questions that we have about yes or no so I was going to say today though you could go the same oh you could get the evidence from a rover could use guns yes and Colby go. Do this from a rover Yes a rover up to the moon's include some rules for us pre-birth job done yeah. Yeah yeah that's right but I think I think even. Taking initial step at. Me I think that things that things that you can day with. Rovers and weights you know uncreated missions if you want to answer questions and you don't need to send people then you should you know make sure that those things happen and I think that is a really important aspect of Massa's program that we have to make sure we don't you know we do we must remove the great science to only focus on sending people places . But there is you know something about. You know can can. Can people do the science experiments and some of the some of them you know can be done by Rovers some of them won't be able to be done by right as they'll need to actual people who can be you know being making intelligent decisions. But there's also just you know how can we can we get people out there at all it's against that it's a frontier it's the end but I'm still not would I wouldn't give up our huge scientific program of NASA to. To just say that I don't see that the night I was in charge Professor this is how love is for the moon landing tonight where our theme from virtue to books was you know celestial bodies we've had over a 1000 text over a 1000 texts from people you know at this hour of the morning. Suggesting tunes. With a reference a metaphor of a way or the utility of bodies is a metaphor that's how much love there is and there are loads of tests coming in now for you we haven't got huge about it sorry but let me show this one Eve from cell who says it doesn't I did texts in the week about watching moon landing on a tiny black or white television but I am I'm texting due to a program I watched yesterday evening it was the moon landing live shown again what struck me was mission control and the looks of or on the faces of those men mostly nearly all watching the astronauts inside Apollo 11 as the 0 gravity gravity showed water just floating from a bustle but the whole journey from start to finish just gives me a lump in my throat still one small step in a jointly for mankind hasn't done humanity any good and so was it just a place race during the Cold War At that time anyway it was a fantastic historic event and one achievement I think you just counted them professor by saying it has done humanity some good. I think it has I think I can I thought I was I think we've done extraordinary science as a result of stress at tertiary to go to the main and now if I look at you know. Of course we have problems here and you have problems but the space program now is is is international you know back then it was this competition but now it's it's you know these endeavors are international They're the Americans are working with the Europeans the Japanese the Russians. And the space station has people from all over the world. You know in this one place trying to push to push this frontier forwards and I suspect that our next frontiers will be done together I hope so anyway so I think you know we've taken in some in some respects I think in the scientific spirit. Taken great strides in doing things now kind of collaboratively and bringing humanity together but you know I will acknowledge that we have still some major major issues on earth to do it would you go via the opportunity would you. Floated to me what you know well I probably would not have. The idea of actually being strapped into a small. Modular shuttle fills me with actual horror but I would I would love to see it would be extraordinary I ha