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Government has promised that stuff who works for the contract are Karelian and the public services will continue to be paid despite the collapse of the business the company which had overall debts of one and a half 1000000000 pounds has gone into liquidation after attempts to save it failed early this morning the Cabinet Office minister David Livingston says the government will do all it can to protect the company's workers and contracts the 1st priority the one I've asked all ministers and all officials to concentrate on is actually ensuring that public services continue so the message to workers is come into work today it's important work to be done as we go forward some services will be taken in house some services will go out to alternative contractors in a managed orderly fashion in Scotland Karelians part of the consortium building the Aberdeen Western peripheral road projects involving Karelian also include the extension of platforms at Edinburgh Waverley and it has several major contracts for managing public facilities including for the m d and west of Scotland housing association here is our business and economy added our Douglas Fraser It has some big projects in construction is Scotland the biggest one of these as I say they operate in western peripheral route ring road as I like to call it. But Transport Scotland which is the client on behalf of the Scottish government so I was confident that the other contractors their 2 other contractors in a consortium there they will maintain the pace that we're they will keep to the commitments to keep building it and it looks like a relatively simple thing to if there's equipment if this stuff there for Karelian to pass them over to those other operators who are there on site that may be more difficult but it's the only contract or. A paper to be published shortly by the 1st Minister says Scotland's economy could be cut by 12700000000 pounds a year under a so-called heartbreaks that the study calculates the impact of 3 different scenarios on Scotland and its u.k. Prepares to leave the European Union Nicholas stars and says that time is running out to prevent the most damaging deal from a marriage ng and u.k. Government spokesperson said they were seeking a deal that works for the whole of the u.k. And arch the Scottish government to work to protect the U.K.'s internal market the leader of you keep says he's no longer dating a model who revealed to us who was revealed to have sent Reese's text of a Prince Harry's fiance Meghan Markle and me both on the set his relationship with Joe Marnie who's 25 was incompatible with his position where he's rejected calls to resign saying people were seeking to undermine him people have have used and they've been able to of course because of her comments but used in order to attack me these are people who have tried in the past to attack me found no way of doing it so now they're going at it through this. For Gen trains us to reverse its decision to ban sales of the Daily Mail on its west coast services so Richard Branson said he answer Brian Souter who is a part owner of the company had asked managers to reconsider saying that tolerance for differing views were in the core principles of a free society that's the news of the latest sports genius former head striker just incomings is in Glasgow for a medical as he looks to complete a loan move to Rangers Cummings moved to English Championship side Nottingham Forest from Hibs this summer but hasn't been playing recently or Rangers are also making moves to sign the naughty City defender Russell Martin on loan he hasn't played for knowledge since August talks are likely to take place this week between the Scottish Football Association and Michael Neil over their vacant manager's role the safety have reached a compensation agreement with the Irish a free tributes are being paid to the former West Brom an England former some forward to settle Regis who has died he was 59 Britons a Kyle Edmund says he's really happy after beating the 11 seed Kevin Anderson in 5 sets in the 1st row and off the a stallion open last year's runner up and rough on a dial is also through to the 2nd round he's just beaten Victor Estrella Burgas off the Dominican Republic and straight sets and you can follow the tennis and more sports news at the b.b.c. Sport Scotland website and though here's Andy with all your travel news thank you Jan and looking to end run the city by pass why spend one late night open between Miller hell and Sheriff Hall there was an accident blocking it completely for a while but still have a going in the 8 other one lane open queues and I am 77 north by in between junction for Christopher road and junction one brick road looking slim the Glasgow a made way span between junction 13 front and that's the 80 link and 15 for 10 head with congestion actually on the Amy to back up the junction to drop Royston on the train services between Glasgow cream street and Mollie facing to Leeds and it's because of overrunning workout gear looking at us b.b.c. Radio Scotland track. Thanks so much on Larry Scotland's weather temperatures falling away as a day goes on mostly dry day for many eastern parts and some spell and sunshine cloudy in the West with a scattering of wintry showers snow initially for the hills but done to lower levels later in the day and into the evening high survey of our own 5 Celsius and that's p.c. Reduced clues thanks very much Duncan mornings with the Adams on b.b.c. Baby. To listen to b.b.c. Radio Scotland with me k. Adams coming up this morning we believe we're having a wills surgery so this is your chance to speak to annoyed about any questions our concerns you have about a will that you haven't made it or one that is existing wait 59295 double is the number to call or you can text 8 to 95 plus she said there were 30 years in the music industry and lots Love singer songwriter. Yeah I want to go to do is a very soon to talk about journey from growing up in Atlanta to being named an outstanding Scottish one and actor and rest agreed to join me last week in the program he spoke about how social media had helped him after losing his mom definitely social media was that help me and going in and speaking about it and talking with the people all of us would be in the soon circumstances mean it was quite come from so what about you do you find the online world a good place to greet mornings with key Adams on b.b.c. Radio Scotland. And great comment still coming in about conversation about sexual harassment promising is minimizing this and if we learn from Spike magazine and needs to be addressed through education as a spectrum of behavior to be addressed here I've been offered money for sex several times physically and verbs. Assaulted and belittled in public more times in the kitchen remember each of these incidents leaves its mark I'm a professional educated woman and still this behavior reduces me to the scared girl I was when all of this started men need to understand what's appropriate and what is not we are just people like they are they should be educated to understand that women are not other and that the way women are treated impacts all. Thoughtful takes work and in this morning Allan I'm a guy's in the elephant in the room as accessibility of the most extreme integrating program be available to very young children the click of a button we need to address that and she says using insulting language is wrong easy when you have your mates laughing along with you interchange a sexist comment with a rhesus or homophobic one and you have your answer holding a door open for anyone is a gulf kind term argument is giving your seat up for a pension and he just so keep those thoughts come in please $8.00 to $95.00 And there's also room for a bit acute on the program those old I mean Madonna pet but that's not you yeah a horse this isn't your kid. You are cute but. This is a video of 2 Glasgow brothers and 2 love guys and they can recite all the players the Celtic squad and the numbers and they're very pleased with the other we listen to this and they thought. And then I we. Yes and I know yeah. So there they go Evan and Jack they're right on the game so tell us what are the random facts that you keep in your head and you have no idea why but they're just in their last year we were talking last night you know last week we were talking and it was John Beattie that brought this up but we're talking about cars and he says doesn't everybody remember the registration plate of their 1st car and I said No don't be ridiculous and then we just go all these takes of people who are able to remember the registration of cars that they've had like or 2 years ago so we're looking for the random facts whatever they are that you keep tucked away in your mental filing cabinet whatever it is maybe at old school or at you know whatever don't and it would to 95 and there's a wee bit in the clip with I don't know whether 7 or Jack but he gives his mother a for helping him for this one no matter where. You get. No more lead you can only. Q When did Gail meet out my mum we gain Yeah we get it so the vehicle you give random facts tonight 5 rate she's also very cute and she's been described as one of the country's all time great vocalists she's too with Tina Turner b.b. King and hoarsely Donald has been inducted into the Psalter society's stand a woman Hall of Fame but this being the 100th anniversary of women getting the vote we thought was a good time to speak to some of Scotland's standing Good morning to you let's say good morning to you Kate how are you and very key this morning. The random facts in the head of yours so well I was trying to remember our 1st registration but I know that my older brother probably do that before me but there's plenty of random facts and here. You're going to have to be churning through lots of folks who you know working an autobiography and working on my biography the moment I just yeah. Yeah it's some of it's tough and it's quite surprising and some of the I'm really struggling with her because my editor of keep said and I remember the thread is always about the music it's always about music because my wife has run on that play mine but we want to about 6 and then I was. So I'm I'm having to look at things that I know ordinarily have gone back to look at we want to interesting of course how does not feel because it's deeply personal it's very deeply passionate especially for myself and and the way I've torn up and things that happened to me but I'm also starting to think about other people because you know I use pseudonyms or I don't know so I'm still struggling with that because this is the very 1st sort of strength of the book so it's about music was very much on me as I grew up and yeah but I didn't actually I thought about rating I didn't look at that sort of part of what I thought about it over the ality is you do have to start looking at it and how it's affected you and so want to hold this image of reflective in your life very deflective and still reflecting and. Well do I carry on that or mean themes running through it like everyone's lives but I think fain in your voice is the universal one for me trying to tame a voice and so you say music has always been there so well when did it start to surface. I think the 1st thing I remember is being trying to influence a couple of battles at my nana's house to listen to the talks. That really does show major support. But I would always say I wanted to be with you that it ended there but about and this was just I was obsessed by this I think it must mean 5 and I've actually still got little red George or tiny George or worth a drawing of the trucks that so. In the house my dad listened to classical music an opera and pilot without my mom when he was a she would be listening to the radio so which was presumably what we'd listen to no just one of those committed together. Going Up Top Of The Pops various things like that there's buzz a difference between appreciating music and many people you know appreciate enjoy music but to know that you have a talent and to develop that talent for music. Gosh I'm really going to start to get into my need to get in my evil Pixie on my shoulder because you carry on I never I never looked upon myself as being talented It was always a boat trying to get through things and going towards a goal I would always put a goal ahead of me I spent a lot of my tame and teenage years in my bedroom listening to music and I think a lot of people perhaps would recognize that when things were difficult I would go and listen to music in my bedroom on my record player with the arm ruled by listening to the same album all over again. I think use my voice has been something that just developed in some sort of them was most of us in a strange way so when I was heart or upset I began to play guitar and sing and never did other people songs whether that was laziness or. I don't know i Phone my voice through doing that through singing through using my voice but as for it being a talent I always was quite tough on myself. And many things happened over the years and I became obsessed with trying to get record they all and Angela Michael and and myself who wrote together we worked for a good 6 or 7 years before we actually say into a publishing deal but the publishing the almost in some respects was more important than the record deal because someone who knew about songs recognized their songwriting talent and when there was no other women of our own and writing in that way or working and the music industry because we were never puppets so we focused on our music and we focused on that and. It grew of Islay and I wrote with Angel for a good 1000 years so much saw that when we stopped working together I thought will ever be able to write such great let it speak as her let x. Are probably. Some of the most outstanding let x. There no one ever produced in Scotland the wonderful letter x. . And. The 1st few songs I wrote after coming out I mean I was dead right to the same time that of course songs at all on my own sort Lee but. The 1st song for songs I wrote and I thought caught up with these kids and and Valmy their mother said to me one of her favorite horse songs was shipped a short which is a song I wrote on my own I thought I'd go back and write I can actually I can I always did but that collaboration was very powerful to women writing together and tuning traveling Angela was an exceptional guitarist saw. Yet it's that constant struggle to have near the head above the parapet and be recognized not for being a women but because you're good that that's one of the sort of main themes in my life just to be recognized because I think I'm good as you're writing always come from a very emotional place I would see so yes yes and no more so with and when my mom and dad passed away 10 years ago and I know. My mom was dying with cancer and I was going and seeing her all the time obviously and spending a lot of time with her and I would go home and I write about how I was feeling and sometime after he died 6 weeks later sometime after that maybe about 9 months later I began to write songs that came from that experience and that a few songs on the album that came out of that coming out for. Really a very very deep deep rooted and deep. Careful one of the songs that's best known. I sang that to my mom which passed away and what was a simple pop song Let It Go from there is so powerful so simple. It just seemed perfect for that moment and it changed for me that song changed at that point and when you see that moment I mean it when she before she was just before she passed away I sang to you know just Family them and. I sang to her and it was just one of the most moving moments of my life because after I wanted to give her something when a child comes into the world you want to give them something a gift that is nothing there's nothing that seems important off but when I sang to our wants to give us something I wanted to do something. I want to sighing today it was like this this is just something saw so special and it just you know underlaying for me that music is a very very very powerful thing we probably don't even know how powerful as it can move people. Kind of have to lean it for in your moment in life and death Absolutely and. I've actually just become an ambassador for Nordoff Robbins which is a charity which is very based trained music therapy and as life goes or an idealized hope ur For you can I to music can be and I witnessed a session with a ghetto of 8 years old and was just blown away by the expedience. Saw my whole experience of music is just whoa amazing it's been for me but also I can when I gave I get back I deceive it's the most wonderful thing. You mentioned earlier you know when times were difficult you're in your room with a record player and I'm sure you know every young person growing up will will recognize that but can we speak a bit more about you know why that early part of your life was really to go well you talk. You know women getting the vote I think again the universal theme in life has been about finding my voice and I grew up in a house will post fifty's early sixty's where my dad was an important man in the tone and the acted so this very kind of recall. Family scene where the man is the most important in the house. You know and what was really hard was my mom would sort of go with the flow and there was 2 boys and me and my example of being female and my hopeful was it wasn't a good thing actually no no no because even my mom you know my dad would cease something or we call it I just it's a bloody women drive in the car I'm on the go yes it's a bloody women and you know and this is pretty much I think typical of those times and I said incredibly to the discussion that we had for the 1st time I didn't hear that no I didn't get to the negativity attached to the female and you wonder is it worth fighting but I thought I could never not be myself and that's the heart of the core of my life I didn't know who I was and it's been a set to find Oh and there was a period of time in my teens where I thought well I'm not a ghetto because that's not a good thing and I was attracted to get also so well I must be a boy and I wanted to actively be a boy and I grew up thinking that way and to me part of that issue was the way I was brought up. And so I sort of head to head myself away and my room and I had a girlfriend and but she wasn't anyone saw I basically had to constantly hide myself and not be. So I guess it was a lonely lonely place did you speak to mom or dad about your sexuality not until a key moment when I said I want to say exchanged to my mom and I said you had a I tell you don't tell my dad. But of course I went off to school I went off to school and. I came home from school and I knew the 1st thing my mama do be to tell my dad to Course and my dad said You going to the doctor then I went through a whole range of doctor's appointments and then psychiatric appointments. And I stopped going because they were talking about saying to me for. A fashion therapy we would call it a day you know you see t. Hey do you I mean apart from that you know you don't experience of that which as a young woman growing up must have been saw a. Challenge but you know how you have played on in terms of the you know the kind of current debate and. Trans community except for a sex change is it and you believed at that time I did that you wanted to have a section change you reflect on that now. Well I don't like to point to and in a way is thinking Well I'm glad that didn't happen because in actual fact the you need to come and see the play whenever I get this is careful Yeah I told her that as well but. You know if there was a doctor who's never been struck off who was trying to make me have a sex change not part of the psychiatric system but a private doctor and something just kept saying to me no I need to it's my principal at home they were abroad. Something told me not it wasn't right and so I was desperately confused. But what I think is that people do develop over a period of time and and I would definitely not endorse people changing in some sort of. Easy way I think you have to be absolutely sure that that is what you want to do with your injury during that period. Between 14 and 18. Which is pretty much quite standard common practice and I would I would have loved to have done the spots when this situation occurred that I possibly could I've rejected it because it didn't feel right. Well this is there was a well if you want to talk about how you turned into the wonderful woman that you are thank you Donald is a with us they will be trying to use rejoined say the big talking points of the day in the make them excessively lunch times with John Beattie to chat to your kids about us to speak to them about 8 not finding people that they don't know how to make a break so we're going to end up giving gosh what was it like being told You have to be honest I never knew where I met while you're sleeping under a bridge how come you're here never go go again a. Nice comment and discussion I had my son when I was 42. 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Contract you know a graduate entrance to the Salter society's Hall of Fame standing women Hall of Fame is is with As and just as we side bar or so I was it would play that cute little clip of the boys that we boys Romanoff the Celtic players so I was asking people of a random facts you want to hear some of the random facts the people of God and Robin Glasgow has pied to 10 decimal places in his head and Madeline's as got another store number 95695960 until University Matriculation number 700-6646 I find that amazing Frank the court numbers a classic Frank has also go as mom's a cool number so hasn't. And Jenny is the same can't get my mom's old store cool number I head 134145 well for 45 years since I probably had to use it crazy I know isn't that funny I knew that everybody to members of National Insurance number . I'm not going to see it in case people would you say would tell you it does tell you that's the one up go off by heart Oh that is yeah I don't know man number for get into my bank which is about 12 women numbers or that's a good thing to have off by Mark Gilman Millen can tell as a giraffe as a 22 inch tall. And did you know Elvis had a black belt in karate and. It he did he did I think use some of those moves and. He did it from p. And Glasgow thanks for that Pete So let's talk music music when did you what was that a moment he is such a know what this is taken off and there was a couple of false false Mormons with all this is that this is what we did the chip for example and that was one of the most thrilling sayings go oh it's so cool yeah and gosh we we had pop we didn't we had publishing but no we didn't a publishing point anyhow it was the most exhilarating thing being on the shore we did our quick check and they said you would have a couple more cameras you know during the show and one minute we're doing the same shaker the live chick we had something like one or 2 cameras not was fame and it was basically 3 to one on you go and it was all life maze completely dark and there's a millions of cameras everywhere it was the most exciting thing and we wanted something to happen after the chub said to us you know we're fed up because when I played nightlife and the switchboards were jammed with people seeing who has Those who is there but because we were just we didn't we just that little group of people who glows you know we didn't want to do it how to handle it so it just kind of died down after that so we that was a moment that could be a tipping point it was basically through the publisher you know gathering lots of record companies together and bringing them up to. Launch it thought I thought dice into the whole street and. She literally got them on planes got many bucks for them took them to the gate took them back and Simon ports the m.d. Of capital key for 6 weeks back stage and said I want to do it with. You could have us I know. It was a bit like that oh yeah but. Months of negotiation and Reese revenge the same deal but again we didn't of management or anyone representing us on one of the big things with record company says they don't like dealing with the artist and you can see why because no metal passion and they see things the props shouldn't they I mean but a few tussles with them Simon. Over the years we were there and one of them was. I stormed out one of the sessions had gone well it was all my fault partly and I stormed out what will I hate so I went to the James and then I had these. High heels and I thought That's Alice and Donald who was his assistant at the time who's no you know she's a big game the record companies except her left out Tibet's and she commitment who was the you all right because she was always the one who sort of things. But yeah so that was one of the tipping points of doing that and then recording the album same sky with peaks math is quite an experience loads of stories attached to that which obviously right. But again it's like it's it's not what you go it's how you sail it always always well you know I just think it was social media much but I there's some instances but if you know what appearing on the show of the moment as it actually was then. In a social idea environment then you have to be know there wouldn't be what I think is not slightly different but I think. When we went in there was so many sort of unique voices no when you listen to radio or watch t.v. . It's very much more your lessons I've always and it's the same voice. Over and over that I wanted to exceptions Alison Moyet stellar and doing some amazing stuff. You know it's those kind of voices where you had a voice to go who's that John on the trading you know a synagogue you know or Tracy Chapman that came of moment you want someone who has a special voice and to me that on so many of those around which is disappointing so I mean do you have regrets about missed opportunity. I do you can never go back I did a member meeting you some live you talking about what is your own horse because I was so I was sort of negative and I was so kind of like but actually for the most part with I'm no because of those experiences bad or good and Evelyn so much and and I get such joy from music and such joy from getting other people joy that that it gets to be if there was a slating doors moment I would like to have Norn when the record company boss said to me Get out of the band we didn't we didn't want the band we just wanted your voice. And I had that horrible moment of like oh my god what do I do. And I stopped the band and I'm so glad the dead because we've got it's a quality and unique album that people still love today. And he had signed up and also we horse have become a simply read I don't know so that's one slate indoors it's not a day it's just a thought yeah yeah it's in the book. I mean I think of it I'm going to have good actually just for you going to Sadly I've got to let you go and the name of course where did the cover of it how did you get stuck with horse am I think it stuck with a I gave it to myself I. I hated my original name and it's changed right Ok to Syria and I absolutely hated it because it was a really female godly Scottish name and horse just seemed right at the time so more you mean desperate to know what it is going to be in the book of course as I mean and it's easily found you just Googled me in there is this and you've got a big birthday coming up early it's just don't bring it head too much it's the end of the year. Is really such a busy year because it's also the 25th anniversary of the 2nd album All right into the year which Korn Sade's. And you're talking about women I'm doing a women's supper in the month. And I've got a list of things that I want to talk about but. We'll fill that wonderfully I think but head but well we can do another wee bit Barnes if you're not too busy to make it back to talk about that happy to talk about it because it's all part of that theme of em women enabling themselves and doing stuff so well also Ok that's harsh but as a 25 years old I. Know this has been a real pleasure thank you very much pleasure to fight and we will see if you can soon maybe 10 to 25 and receive the travel. 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He took great comfort from posting his news on social media to the been absolutely to get 16 vision links on Facebook with all of that's relevant that they did so but definitely social media was that help me am going in and speaking about it and talking with the people with of obviously being this in circumstances mean it was quite come from a group of certainly not alone many people no choose to share their loss on social media so tell us if that's something that you've done and if it helped to whether you have taken a different approach maybe you feel that face to face is base who get in touch you can text us or call us also the show text 8 to 95 or cool wait wait 59295 and double oh go with as McKinnon musician a mom of 2 and a journalist Jane Graham Good morning Amanda and Jane warning I want to hear Morning morning and the Wilsons the c.e.o. Of cruise bereavement Scotland in the studio Hi Stewart morning Kate good morning thanks very much for joining is a Monday. This is something that you have kind of done but hadn't really thought about is that right yeah they're slightly right yeah and they love and a long time. 24 years. I did actually Starcade a lot like I got in touch to help care about it a lot even coached your. Believe is amazing one of the nicest plainly asked disguise of ever known in my life. A lot has been the butt and we just truly wonderful and it paid it but then there were out there almost like that people who later were there would have told you treacherous am. 11 years old at the age 40 down at home who I don't know at the end of. The say he'd just. Died what they ask. I was in complete shock and you know it's become a ticklish point because you got married and divorced status. And I don't see my office because of. All the tie I so one of my best to face this and. To deal with. No thought because of my bond to the water and he was always the one that was akin to intermediate between any of the bond and the fountains the only you know everybody knew that the merchandise a certain. Under 21 but he took the camcorders often with our gig when. They don't love them so I just had all these people what's happening because. You know but even in my own way fit enough but. Because of the place and foetal cadenced together in London suffered the nice man after to online the response was just overwhelming I didn't expect I wasn't going for you know my only satisfaction just tell it as simply no more. I just the response of most stories so sure nice to. Get the shivers just reading all the sales of those hundreds and hundreds of likes and wallops and a pen to promote and post a piece of paper. They were so happy to to reach what he meant to. The city today. I mean we did that kind of experience putting it on social media was that a surprise to you. You know I could I had planned on a. I think. It is live it is basically the way everybody you know because I don't know what people all the time so. Yeah people particularly but I'm just I'm on page so yeah and before you posted did you have a hesitation I mean it's obviously a very modern phenomenon this is not what people talk about in abstract you will get people who say you know why put this out to people that you don't know that you don't have personal contact with is a very kind of profile thing to have to deal with and it shouldn't be there for the wider community but lot of people are doing it more and it was so interesting speaking to to agree to who whose approach to I mean obviously the losses was was huge but you know he got right back to work and this is what Mom would have wanted and the whole family felt that they had to go on and this is what moment of wanted but the more emotional side of him was when social media was where he was able to put it. But I just wondered given the char array and did you think should or should I know. That my cleaving I'm going to get 6 of them that I wanted you know like you know I. Actually save the name or say anything about it I could get a very close friend of mine or just died and I thought I used to and after I left. Because people are so nice to me and if you don't want to hear it unfriendly and don't want my credit my my kids so. A different way of seeing it there's absolutely no like a clip of what I did and I was doing. Peyton's kids yes. Because they're they're just adorable naked saying that possibly heart. Has got off and I can find the lot of them to so she the norm is long cause I that it's nice for her to see what she's done in his life and what he's meant everybody. Has a story yet because of what there's the Stooges after still wanted it's just wonderful and I thought it sounded that. Happy nothing would. Suit Wilson from cruise bereavement Scotland I mean is it a natural thing that when people do suffer a great loss that they want to get some. Yeah I kid I think I think it is actually what was going through my head when I was listening to him and the stories almost sounded like a week happening on social media that people were able to tell their stories that's an old fashioned model of mourning I suppose with very very popular people telling stories remembering celebrating a life is a fantastic way to help the image of the body through that particular time. Do you need do you feel about it well I mean I have absolutely no reservations or a people doing it and I can see also that it has a very practical aspect if you want to tell and also the people need to know to get in touch 1st of the 2 of everyone's phone number is a very good way of just legend people listing is harmed and letting them respond or know as according to their preferences I saw the cello actually as a good friend of a died just last week completely out of the blue the young guys to me just me and I was so shocked and it was really a terrible thing my instinct was No 2 on social media was on is a purely personal choice I just I think it maybe because as a journalist. I seem to Twitter the sick of these sayings as tools of the trade almost and from the point of view for me the are no pleases take sprays prefer personal feelings and because I see as a place reg and for me sure a lot of it is unreliable a lot of it is common to dawn and the negative we. Are acting when something very Pears to me happens like that I can impose the rug from under me I want to go somewhere else somewhere that I regard as a more private place and I also feel that yes that I want to get and I want to have stories to tell and you know I'm going to funeral next weekend and know those stories I'm a lawyer because as a guy there are a lot of stories around me is a very very funny guys comedian. And so I'm looking I'm really looking forward to tonight it's not that I want to change Caroline but the way that I regard social media as often quite reductive and you know entirely it's just Fuller you know for me Nora liable we discussing things are getting facts across or opinions on somewhere where anyone can see what they like in response which make to mean the my original feeling I would my and still stay away from it. Yeah I mean that weariness which we are told to. Deploy and we're producing media suppose and also the situations I mean Amanda It was lovely that you got an overwhelmingly positive response and your friend was obviously much loved by many people. I suppose if there had been one to malicious individuals who choose to. Contribute in a negative way that could have changed the whole experience for you. Yes absolutely . But fortunately you get a choice of who you want to be friends on Facebook so I and other social networks. And fortunately the people I have accepted I don't really know for far anyway here well yes if you don't a private network then maybe Jane you wouldn't go into the problems that you would be concerned the by Suppose that there is a bit of a protection there will be an etiquette though. You would put on social media and you wouldn't and with well that's a really good question I think. The basic message I guess is that we all have to look after ourselves and social media whatever we poster or how we do it I'm not sure there's much guidance out there about that certainly not her own grief we're actually looking at this at the moment because we're very keen to diversify our services a bit further and use social media particularly for younger people as a way of communicating with us and getting help but you know our mentality in an organization like Cruise is that confidentiality is absolute we're always very very keen to protect each individual's privacy and confidentiality of the ask us for help and at the moment that's quite difficult to manage in a large scale social media situation I think yeah and I suppose you would have to saying well it depends on your relationship with the person that passed away and there may be other people who are closer and that there is again the kind of etiquette around that is it in place to share information or does that belong to somebody else I mean that's a that's a very good question and sometimes when people are bereaved of even a close family member or a friend they find out all sorts of things about the individual that they didn't know and that's often a good thing you know to funeral somebody or maybe make an address about somebody who's passed away and you think oh yeah never knew that about him but the flip side of that in the social media context is that maybe all sorts of things true or false are said that are really hurtful here as I suppose that we do live in a different world when you think and I'm and your friend you said lived in the states is that right. Cliff and yeah yeah and we do know more regular Leino have be close to people that we don't necessarily come into daily contact with who may live a long way away and did you feel kind of this didn't just for that reason that the social media allow you to feel a bit closer. Yeah I was a foreigner. And strange and you know I'm only going to show this question for sure maybe only some. Once or twice a year but you only can touch. The most recent email from them after it died and just don't want to master it so much information and probably communicated with them more than I did my own family some of the time so it didn't make any difference when you realized you could have been Glasgow let myself or America. Been anything that supports the mean things I was going to say and if there was any weirdness of getting. The news on my wife's family or his girlfriend I would have done it because that would cover just being not nice at all as mom and mom was happy for me and I am going to the places I want to cheat she wanted me to spread the word that was really sweet so at least I knew I had their their backing and I guess yeah I suppose if your relationship to place all online a lot for various reasons then again it would feel more natural. To mark his loss on online Janus both the one thing that occurs to me is maybe and I appreciate as a fellow journalist that you have had some very negative experiences within the online world as indeed have I but in some ways it's a reminder that there's lots of really good good people oh there you know who are sharing the same experiences who do come back at you on this Lee and with genuine concern rather than the few wingnut's I knew absolutely and I'm certainly not saying Look you know just a one who does it I think actually it's very Mainers depends Israel on the nature of the pair soon and I watch the gauge for social media and if they've got a keg sharing stories and you know having a can of online party and that was a really nice pause to part of their life green. You know carry on and let all those positive feelings be celebrated by everyone you love that person and I think that's absolutely fine I mean as I said maybe the internal isn't does me curious and they consume many different ways and I really just kind of just never to choose so I'm thinking probably more of Twitter which is a more public club forming You don't get to choose their foes and if you do fall people you don't fall them because you agree with everything the same Maybe because you want to know we'll hear the enemy are thinking says very different we regarding social media well Batman My daughter is 14. A tragic death of a boy of heart he just has to loosen it and it was terribly upsetting very shocking very sudden and as true that certainly she went on to public a private conversation booty westering 20 or 25 people online and the shared stories. And she definitely felt better after that because she couldn't for her and another can impart Jillian the following year they really wanted to talk to the stairs and she was deeply upset it wasn't a super special response or wanting to be part of the story she was very up moving when she tried to tell me what happened it took about 10 minutes to get the word say because she just wasn't such deep shock about it but she definitely feel better about an early draft she'd gone on to will snap chat for her mind which is a test group a parent 20 people they talk to as a fail and afterwards I could see it was a had definitely a can of healing. I faked on her to do not well yeah in this interesting story that you're saying the clues or even school is looking to media and think a right will do the kind of this and if there isn't on the moon. Maybe that's something that needs to evolve Yeah I think that's right I mean I think we've had a Facebook page a cruise for a number of years but I see there's been relatively little take up of it and it's not that the people that come to us for support all older people we have a very broad demographic age wise from teenagers upwards. To it's something like snapshot that we'd interested in as well because it's that immediacy young people particularly when they're communicating aisle in the way of a very immediate response from their friends or whoever they're talking to because of. It's things like Snap chatting what's up and so in order to make our services in our support accessible we're looking at that as a vehicle to offer offer help. And well it's interesting an interesting idea which I'm sure will evolve Joe thank you very much indeed Amanda thanks very much to you and to to you Jane and listen because you both had lost and recent time so thanks very much for joining us. This morning. I needed some fresh air maybe the most depressing day of the year. On tonight's get tough on crime songs to her mom to. Do nothing but think Chomsky. Was the final. Like she's going to make you January at least to get money from sex stand on some nights get all. The songs you do you want to hear Monday to Thursday 630 on b.b.c. Radio. Catch up on the conversation Listen by the b.b.c. I Player Radio Lab or online at b.b.c. Don't go to it you can slash Radio Scotland mornings with a Adams on b.b.c. Radio Scotland. 1053. He this is Kate Adams that he up until 12 just talking about posting about grief and loss on social media and whether or not there's an etiquette and this is probably worth bearing in mind a familiar member posted a Facebook photograph of my late husband and teenage boy's dad's headstone with his own children beside it my boys were very upset at having their dad's headstone a very private thing for us on social media for all to see is a public post remembering a loved one is fine but you have to consider have it can affect others especially when it involves a child's deceased father and that will I'm sure be a Marriot of examples that you have to take into consideration and a less than complimentary text at what now is happening to people when they feel compelled to spill their guts on these moronic sites heaven help us all well if it helps some people I guess as long as it doesn't impact on others usually when the boss has a big announcement it's not good news but when shit Rolston the owner of award winning Edinburgh restaurant is all called to stuff and it was to tell them they were getting an extra day off on full pay still is here to tell us why you are also job Abigail Marts a professor of work and employment studies at what university Good Morning Good Morning Morning morning Stuart you are the best boss in the world. Tries there. So why did you come to this conclusion that this would be a good idea we've been trying to reduce the working hours for a while now and every which way we've thought boats or you know whether I was to take more days off or the general managers hit more days off we never really forced the issue never really got round to doing that you know because of the restaurants always busy you're always short staffed and you just never seem to get the time to do so the force was really to shut the place another day so we really have to have a day off a ribbon reduce them you know that we. Why was there. You wanted to shorten the hours because I mean is the restaurant trade just no legend for that that people except when they go into the restaurant trade you know it's pretty antisocial in terms of the errors and you do what a long week yeah of course to me do except that I could enter in the beginning but you know I've been cooking for 20 years. All around the world and it just got to a point for me personally were you know I've just my son just turned 2 and a half and I realized how much time I was messing a home and how much time I wasn't spending with the family and just becomes more important I think it's a point to someone you know the business is one thing the business is great you can parallel again spending time at home so you know it's been on one mind for a while and something at a restaurant if it's good for me then I want to extend it to the staff I don't really you know where I'm coming in the way as to leave a no s. That everybody else cover in my job is pretty much of it as the same hours and I don't think Ed in longer there is good enough to just say the last industry that you're in and you know deal with and suck up type of thing I think we need to change things I mean really work 2 careers in a lifetime so and what was the action of your stuff they were very they were super happy I mean we always had a pretty chef me in and at that particular one in December that I told them before we told anybody else that that was our decision and you know they could just see their faces Lay are obviously they're going to be gay and you know suddenly off they're never used again and I said before I don't think it's because they don't want to be the rational I just think that over a you know 5 days a 141516 hours a day it takes its toll by Sunday everybody's you know pretty tired and you know. I think they were just happy to feel appreciated as what we were going to do and it was in the it looked at the potential impact on your bottom line yeah definitely I mean there's going to be a there's a risk involved when you're when you're close and don't. You know. 20 percent of your of your week's take but I think we can stow you know we're increase their hour there are usually due by an average day on Wednesday to Sardi's and I will put a 5 o'clock into that asserts so there's room to turn a couple of the tables a little bit more and you know we're short a couple of staff members of laughter on Christmas time I'm not going to replace all the cost implications for having more wagers as well but Wes as well as we have done the paperwork and if the plan goes the planners should be all over where we just break and Abigail one thing that's sure said they're challenging is the norm and you hear that lots of industries doing it is just a way of birds just the way it is you know what you going to do that's just the way it is and might we see more organizations thinking maybe we could do it differently it would be nice to believe that that was going to be the case I mean I know certain some of this company in countries of took reducing the working thing to 6 hours which isn't my Assif change in particular Stuart and the sector that he works and the the hours of employment the employment conditions and the age of the contract is pretty grim for a lot of people so any change is really really positive and I think when I 1st heard about this I was quite cynical about having not just a bit. I think we think it's great I think he's making a really positive stance it sounds like you don't feel there's going to be a flood of people following in the. Maybe I'm just a bill and cynic. But I can't see it happening. I mean the advantage he's got quite a self-contained restaurant you know he's in charge. I can't see the spreading to larger organizations I think what he's doing is great I think it's there's a lot of goodwill there clearly a degree of selfishness on his part as well but I can't see. The large play is a can't see for example with Brett following suit suppose with the consumer wanted then you would start to have that challenge us always when we have the Boxing Day argument that way but whether or not places should be open on Boxing Day or Christmas day. You know the people working at my Appreciate the day off but the consumers buying into the door and sure I know you've got a very successful restaurant there so I'm pretty sure that the customers are going to be banging at the door anyway so we wish you continued success with that and enjoy time with the family thanks very much thank you steer also there thanks very much also to Abigail Marques our wills surgery is about to open its doors I see lots of questions coming in let's get yours the top of the pile it or 295 to take so give us a call. To read you 1995 a week when the media b.b.c. Radio stop. In Syria to mishear with the news good morning the 1st minister has unveiled the paper outlining the estimated impact on Scotland of u.k. Withdrawal from the e.u. Their report calculates the cost to Scotland of 3 scenarios staying in the single market a Canadian style free trade agreement or a so-called hard brag said with no deal speaking in the last few minutes Nicholas Sturgeon said none of the options were as good as staying in the e.u. But not managing any agreement would be the most damaging under the so-called nor deal option w t or beast relationship or g.d.p. Will be 8.5 percent war by 2030 then if we were to remain in the e.u. That is equivalent to 12700000000 or 2300 patients for every pair send in Scotland under this option real disposable income would also be 9.6 percent lower and business.

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