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I thank you for joining us from Pine con foxing with Costello advance 3 months into 2019 and the Cape players in the heavyweight division have now all decided on their next move and Anthony Joshua the ON TAPE Wilder and Tyson theory state will not be facing each other at least not yet yes they have a white fights we all wanted are simply not happening Joshua wild and fury all with different broadcasters different promoters and very different agendas I got to tell you it's a heavyweight disaster well in the past few days Tyson Fury has announced that he'll face the little known German Thomas Schwartz in the past week the anti Wilder shared a press conference diocese in New York with fellow American Dominic Brasil they'll fight on May the 18th with Wilders W.B.C. Title at stake and early. In the year Anthony Joshua's signed to defend his I.B.M. W.P.A. And W V O titles against the New Yorker derail MILLER That's at Madison Square Garden on June the 1st week turned into the year Steve saying on our podcast right at the beginning of 2019 that this would be we hoped the year of the heavyweights for sure they've dominated discussions but not for the right reasons we were planning on looking at fights between at least 2 of them by the end of this year. No Those 3 are not going to fight each other this year let's get that absolutely clearly stated now and you might have heard some promoters and some television executives talking boldly bravely and telling you yes 3 can still win this can still have and yes this might have another one that they're not going to fight each other this year we've got the Joshua fight that we predicted in October we've got that June the 1st big by rail milage a real big baby to whatever variation a combination of those you want to use and he'll bring it because he's got he's got a good time and he can fire a bit and help entertain Joshua and 21000 people at Madison Square Garden absolutely fantastic the fight we thought we could announce in February all out for out February MIKE Every Monday we got together every Firstly we do stuff every time we were together we were about to announce it the rematch between wild fury it was done and dusted people were lying to me at different television companies on both sides of the Atlantic and different trying as a method that fight was dusted that the promoters of that fight were playing chicken with the promoters of the Joshua and Miller fight just working out where was going to be so they did a book the same city a week later or weaker and then suddenly out of the blue 3 or 4 weeks ago that fights off he goes down this route Mr Wilder he goes down this route mist if you're not fighting each other the earliest they will fight is next year but you know what Mike I'm not a gambling man bought out a 5 P. And a coffee with yet I don't even buy my fight each other by my of next year and that's I said heavyweight disaster i'm not be melodramatic it's a heavyweight disaster charging by the response online to the announcements of at least 2 of these fights then fans are failing in pretty much the same way you spoke earlier about how the 3 key players in the heavyweight division who signed 2 different television companies not just here but in the United States while there for example has this deal with Showtime T.V. . Anthony Joshua in the States is attached to design the new streaming service and Sky Sports in this country Tyson Fury with BT Sport in this country and now with E.S.P.N. In the United States and that was the biggest shock of the mostly because we were expecting a press conference sometime in March to announce officially that the rematch against Wilder would be happening and then he signs with E.S.P.N. And we're hearing from Bob Arum who has a deal also through his top rank company with E.S.P.N. And he's saying that there will be another fight for Tyson Fury later in this year which will not involve the Ontario while there it will be another showcase fight possibly against an American Later in the year after he's had this fight against Thomas for on June 15th in Las Vegas and Bob Arum is talking about if while the VS Fieri 2 is to happen it will be in the early stages of next year you know that's a that's a lovely ideal plan but we left Los Angeles Mike on the 2nd of the Assemble we have another plan in place and that was that Walter and fury would get a rematch they had that rarest of things in the boxing world they had that bit of high moral ground and I can assure you this there's not a lot of warm copper up at that glorious pulp in our sport but they were there to tour them 6 foot $9.00 and $6.00 for I know whatever height they are wandering around on that written net reverify there knowing they were did they were going to give us a rematch of what thrilled us not just us but what is in my opinion reconverted the American public so the heavy whites the Americans have not been bothered about the heavyweights for nearly 20 years since Tyson was in these peak since Lennox Lewis fought all the time and since event Holyfield to read it both themselves to a standstill those fights were in 929394 my southerly route while doing few of the American public went high up well they obviously knocked off in Lancashire but I went to. This is so we fancy a bit of this and they bought into it and if that fight had been might water and fury of the rematch had been a night for what we expected or my like we may be fooled about it I'm convinced that would have changed the box in landscape my I'm convinced of it absolutely convinced and with each of these announcements with a show of these passing announcements will in no meant the possibility that the great error that we forecast might not actually happen because they're going down these parallel roads and all earning a lot of money on those individual roads and we might not get to say the fights that we were so much hoping for there's been disappointment each time the opponents have been announced and that's going to happen because we want to see Joshua versus while the Joshua versus fury or Wilder versus hearing we want to see the combinations and the permutations but I think there was particular disappoint us to even the announcement at the weekend for the opponent for Tyson Thierry who's the little known German Thomas Swartz who 24 unbeaten in 24 fights but with little really to recommend him at the highest level it's a bizarre selection and not turf a warm up because the general thinking is you take someone to Las Vegas the old heavyweight capital of the world you take someone there who is not not American and then you bring him an American just like Eddie herds down went to the Joshua and a big baby Miller in New York you bring in an American he helped sell it he helps publicize it he's the guy that the the locals quote unquote can get behind but we've got Thomas Schwartz big Thomas was big low on beats and looks good moves OK nothing special nothing special in his record exam beats and so that takes expose a box the fact that he's got it you know he's got a 6 pack that looks good he's 17 and a half stone 6 foot 6 that that looks good but is out of his depth here Mike you know and the only reason that I think he. He might work and I'm going to say might work is that I have a feeling that Tyson Fury from talking to him last weekend up in Leicester I think you might fancy getting hold of him and he's entire too and why again all of bumming jumping on him and finishing it quicker make it look good and exciting the millions watching and also the fountains that would travel out to Las Vegas to the Thomas and Max enter and toss in fury owes it to those fans Mike because he's been speaking to traffic for it since he lost 9 stone let's get that right he's completely turned around the way the public have received him perceive the robber and receive them. 18 months ago he was ties and you know a lot of time from now people love him he's undoubtedly the people's champion of all the foxes we've got in this in Great Britain at the moment and part of that comes from that brilliant fight and that comeback in the 15th round against the old who are a part of it comes from a year of brilliant flawless not putting a foot wrong pretty are well he's put a foot wrong here with this opponent now he's going to show to those travelling founds 810000 of them go he's got to show to what he's been promising them he's got to get older this kid because a kid does Tyson Fury on a public No but he's got to perform for the public Mike because the public love him so he's really on the pressure here and I think in that sense shorts won't be ideal because he'll be back shorts up a bishop baffle wife and get him out there and send about $12000.00 Brits out into that warm starry night with the lights of the strip 2 miles off they can feel and flood the bottles and have a great sign that's me being really positive certainly will be warm on June the 15th but I think in terms of Tyson Fury and what he brings to the ring state the difficulty against how much force might be that Fury's best wins most impressive wins have been when he's not a firing opponents who are coming to him on the biggest stage against the likes of LA to make Let's go and he did it also against the anti Wilder although he didn't get the win on that night in December where I disagree with you Steve is the necessary to have an American in the opposite corner I get what you're saying about showcasing and getting the locals behind them but I do remember being in Atlantic City when Carl Froch force against on to a war that night and working as Marco commentator alongside me on 5 Live was poorly man analogy and he was talking about Andre Ward having come across himself from the west coast from his training base his home in Oakland California over to Atlantic City on the eastern seaboard and he said that they won't be that much American fervor for him you know from coast to coast you know there's a huge difference in sports fans are into so I'm not so fussed about. Being an American I'm fussed about the quality of the opponent and given the measure against expectations of what we hoped for with fury versus while the 2 are now we've got Thomas Schwartz and I've looked at the German in action and sometimes he fights as if he's boxing in slow motion so Shiri he's not going to have any problems in terms of reading him and also he doesn't move his head which is a kind of characteristic of some of the very best German boxers the Armenian German arter Abraham former super middleweight world champion middleweight world champion who was beaten by a car for each in the past has another example of that where they just don't move their heads it's almost as if they've been banned from moving their heads and for me this sports character would be would have been the perfect opponent for Tyson Fury before Dion while that last year when he fought the Italian Francesco P.N. Etter in Belfast in August for his in the end last warm up fight before the Ontario all that this is the kind of opponent Tom Schwartz that would have been perfect on that occasion not after the aunt who are the all the excitement that we had at the Staples Center in Los Angeles back in December Mike I can't disagree with any of that whatsoever the only thing I would throw in my is if we hadn't left Los Angeles with the promise the secured promise the almost signed and sealed in blood sweat and tears promise that we would see a rematch a wall of fury and had we not gone fruity entire December the entire January and 3 weeks of February waiting for the announcement of Wilder and fury if that fire had not been a possibility if we'd been told in Los Angeles while it was going down this course we will revisit this in my I put of 2020 would still be disappointed I think with SCHWARTZ But I think we'd be a little bit more accepting of it we'd still be disappointed Don't get me will be accepted and just pick up on the 1st point you're making now the only American I wanted to see him flat was a loud mouth American and Andre Ward is not a loud mouth American that's that's what I mean. An American I wanted a baby Miller in there screaming and shouting and basically waking up anybody that might have been sleeping in at those Republicans see no that's the Shannon brick style character my that's the type of American I wanted I didn't want to really brilliant quite American who slipped in or wanted a noisy loud American with his DON'T King used to say braggadocio a braggart they reckon they said it was Don's 5 words where she had loads of favorite words with most of them you can use in a family show and the contest for the greatest promoter of all time might be between Don't King and Bob Arum maybe Tex Ricard from the pre-war days with Jack Dempsey would be there as well but Bob doesn't get a lot wrong Steve and I just wonder what's in his thinking as as he's building ties and fury in a fight against Holmes force and then he says against another opponent which won't be one of the 2 world champions and he's just for the Ontario while that later this year then with perhaps a world title fight in the early part of next year we're told it's a 5 fight deal that Bob Arum and Top Rank and S.P.N. Alongside them have got with Tyson Fury and I just get the sense that Bob Arum has got it right so often in the past Varia that maybe we just have to just have to allow them some space to build Tyson Fury as a name in the states or what they get 5 or 6 rounds minimum OK because it's not going to catch him you know a big tall was looking for a lazy jet Tyson is not going to drop a shot over knock him spark out in the 1st round that's not going to happen I don't think fall short is going to win on points I don't think twice if you're going to win points I know you maybe think is No I think what's going to happen is if shorts doesn't want to commit to is going to be allowed at the be backed up against the ropes by Tyson Fury's really good move very good at maneuvering his feet and then Tice if you will hit away because Tom Schultz it's a big Thomas was Thomas was is an old style war whole See isn't a guy he isn't a guy used to being trapped on the ropes isn't a God It's made across to the sparring partner bigamous and good fathers the know us that knows our top. Not get hit he won't be able to survive he's not a survivor he's not what we used to call an old fashioned heavyweight journeyman and that's what I see if you are backing him up and for 5 or 6 or 7 rounds just the idea with tension span for the American heavyweight fan that's when at some point few will leave a catch him of a body shot clip him high or the referee on a corner will say enough is enough and Mike you know well that's job done and you actually write Babar I'm getting closer to 90 then he is to 80 been around put since promoted Mohamed Ali back in the sixty's is promoted and has has had his finger in every single one of boxing's most delicious pies in the last in that 50 year period he hasn't got it wrong this is not the lip We're standing by to fans here not 2 guys in a studio with a headset on we're disappointed but from a business point of view my I'm going to say it now it makes tremendous sense and in terms of weighing up the risks they have you know there's pain or welter of criticism online for the announcement of each of these 3 opponents friend to me Joshua the aunt who are in Tyson theory but as a professional boxer you have to earn the most money while taking this little one on every side and that's what these men are doing as a much as the fans are going to be disappointed about it but it's what some of them have said in the past I think is disappointed a lot of fans when they make this convincing noise about who they're going to take on and why they're going to take them on and the legacy they want to leave but in terms of these 3 opponents they say you've got Anthony Joshua against the General Miller you've got the against Dominic Brazil who by the way is his mandatory challenger so he's had little choice once he the it away from the rematch and then you've got Tyson Fury against the German Thomas force how do you rank and 123 I'm going baby Miller is the best of those 3 if they were in a round robin tournament by the minute comes out on top Brazil's a 2nd best shot forces the 3rd best of those 3 upcoming opponents a card disagree with that however I just think that Schwartz in Brazil I think Brazil's maybe. Just in front but not by an awful long way I have a feeling those 2 could fight twice or 3 times and they might split low but if I fancy Brazilian a bit what I like my HIS you manage to keep a straight face when you told me to presume what was wild as mandatory because let me just time travel with you let me just tell you a little bit of Dr Who trip OK educate you about Star Wars last images educate you about Dr Who come inside this is my time capsule we're going to go back 3 weeks when there was going to be a fight between the 2 mandatory the 2 mandatory challenges for Deonte Walters total belt title championship it was Dominic was ill against 1000000000 what that fight was done and dusted you remember to every promoter we know what it was tell us they're going to dominate it was it would deliver what a great fun to work out who's the mandatory suddenly W.B.C. Get wind that sizing Fury's not going to fight Walter and dearly and why just cascades It's like easy like he was in an air balloon at 12000 feet and someone opened the doors that see it delayed you might want to try to some of the parachute it's good for you only when you're lovely and jumped well then didn't know what he was the mandatory as well just for a point point now and you're laughing now but you was and you said of a straight face and told me and Dominic Sawyer and built a wall that will fight his He's he's mandatory challenger dumb and it was it was since when was it a month since it was a superman in the W.B.C. Guy's got to give it to go see it said you know what I think Mike because we can we can that was a perfect person Asian demolishes Silliman is a friend of the show I think we have Brazil number one going at Brazil number one in the W.B.C. Rankings that's a fight actually Steve I'd like to see Tyson Fury against Dillion white later in the year in Delhi and why is is out there waiting looking for opponent big name opponent having turned down supposedly a 1000000 pound per smore than a 1000000 pounds maybe as much as 5000000 pounds according to some reports to take on Anthony Joshua at Wembley Stadium on April the 13th that date which is now in shelf so time. If you're against Villa and white later in the year would work and it would work for me as well but Eddie heard earlier this week has been lobbying the W.B.C. And trying to get yo