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Really the story of the week telling all hospitals in England to delay routine hospital appointments until at least the end of January to free up time and space for emergencies officials have estimated that this could lead up to 55000 deferred operations the Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt had this to say when the news broke but with respect to patients. I want to apologize for the fact that we have had regrettably to perspire own a number of operations we're trying to do it differently this year last year we canceled a lot of operations at the very last minute so people got a call the day before to say that operation wasn't going ahead that is obviously very undesirable So we want to do it in a much more planned way but our hope is that the total number of council operations won't be significantly higher this year. And we had an absolutely massive response from you from patients from the Says from doctors health care workers on the from Law and Sarah which is not her real name is a doctor called in to 5 Live breakfast to speak to Rachel about what she's experienced the hospital this is nonsense this is this is indeed 3rd World Medicine and the n.h.s. Is in freefall and this major was of cancelling reaching operations but more I understand that because of the possible take up of beds after surgery but canceling out patients appointment for patients who've been waiting months and months to say specialists is utter nonsense it suggests that one doctor is the same as another doctor and everyone can be at the front line processing people with flu but specialists especially specialists are the clues in the name they they won't be the people who are able to free themselves up to see these other patients and meanwhile the back pressure on to primary care also in freefall for these people who need specialist advice about more and more know and patients can't get to see a doctor they can't get to that cheap pay because there aren't enough g.p. Seance not appointments and then when they're waiting now for the specialist appointment they can't get there either an Amish shame to be in a system that is failing patients so you say it's nonsense what part is the nonsense part it's not the fact that there is a key pressure on the n.h.s. He'll say that that's not accurate is it there is a cheap pressure on the n.h.s. And demand is ever mounting patients are living longer with more complex. More difficult to manage but this isn't a surprise this isn't something that has suddenly come out of the play this is something that has been on the horizon for a long time and we just don't have an adequately funded system we just don't have that so the. But the winter pressures which happen every year. Are suddenly eliciting this response which actually is going to leave the specialist in hospitals with no work to do that sounds ridiculous but the cell addict is who's making the decisions and presumably the individual trust to trying to work out how best to cope with this and Iroh the counselling routine operations if it's absolutely necessary Well I mean and I think we can all understand that someone who's had surgery it will likely need it but afterwards and if it is something elective as it often doesn't stay in the theory is that you can wait for that whereas someone coming in when acutely emergency condition and needing a bed should have got over if there is there has to be a choice the moral person needs that if you've got a hip that you've been waiting for 15 months have surgery you can wait another month or 4 as it is and I can see that I'm ashamed of it but I can see that I can see that choice but outpatient appointments outpatient don't take but again the clues in the name they come in they see a specialist and they go and once people have received that advice based then can move on perhaps not have stated g.p. As often or at least not have to try and see their g.p. As often because as I say actually the capacity to see patients in information is also not there and Rachel also spoke to junior doctor just Wilcox's in the southwest of England what is the worst I've ever seen or. And I've been edging it out for 776 knots years now it's just been getting worse year on year and the conditions in ne the other night were absolutely appalling Can you explain a bit more qualified thoughtful. Well we have cubicles where people are but down in an area of any majors which is for the sickest people people almost coming into hospital have something very seriously done to them in the space between them we were having people kind of $2.00 to $3.00 along in a rush the names were hung from a trip and what not to name the bad numbers from a trip stand and they were just on trolleys it was pretty horrific and I work in a fairly insulated the common away from those pressures that I need so I kind of glance around them as I go and see other people it's not good at the moment you know what's what's causing the spike in pressure do you think and is this something that we should have could have foreseen. I think it's something everybody foreseen who worked in the for so in the health industry any doctors managers chief executives of hospitals crying out for months if not years were getting underfunded and every year the winter pressures pushes deeper and deeper into poor poorer conditions for our patients and it's great that you say under funded I mentioned earlier on extra money was made available this year since I pull something like 90000000 pounds has been added to the funding of hospitals including $13000000.00 to $19.00 hospitals in England specifically to prepare for when to Precious we always know it gets worse this time of year and it is bad management by hospitals perhaps even to allocate to retire for example for routine operations I've got to stop you there it's not bad management the manager is doing a sterling job on the really really heavy pressure they're coming on to the road to helping push beds that doing what they can they're not condition nurses and. Doctors but that they're doing what they can with the little money they have. The fact that almost all trust the running a deficit I'm not a fundie x. But. The people who run these trusts are funding that and all of them can't be wrong you know there are very few hospitals that aren't running into debt it's a systemic national issue and feel deliberate I'm not going to jail. Yeah I think so I mean what do you want well it's got to be a centralised policy hasn't it if it if it nationwide if it's if it's all hospitals running into this problem apart from a very small number then how could it not come from central government well isn't it just to do with and to tie limited funds there is only so much money that the government can i need to put so much cash into the system works the n.h.s. And only 23 governments you can the coalition and the funding was previously we didn't have these issues with any we didn't have these issues with discharges we didn't have problems of people just not having social care to go to it seems like I said to be getting worse year on year aging population increasing numbers coming into this country you know in the 6 years I've been working you know that kind of demographic shift happened over a decade Yes and I agree it is true you know we were going to different people 3 that goes 967 years. And on Wednesday when this is the main story of the day Dr decided the only place to really broadcast from should be a hospital so it's only live broadcasting from the Department of the Bradford Royal Infirmary taking 5 live into the middle of the action and whilst he was there he spoke to Brian Gill who's the medical director for Bradford teaching hospitals n.h.s. Foundation they run that particular hospital and Tony asked what stresses the hospital we're currently. It's a very busy day I think winter is always busy so there's nothing unusual in that I think will stay friends is the very long festive period particularly bank holidays and have Christmas Boxing Day rolled into a bank holiday weekend and added to the pressures that we now see post festive period particularly from primary care patients needing access to health care so how are you here at the moment we hear of hospitals on black alert whether having to send ambulances elsewhere because they can't cope well how is this hospital coping today we're coping well we are on high alert because we know that the numbers of patients who got in our beds and the need to see the patients who are here in a day today is really important and therefore it's critical that we make sure that patients recognise when they need to come to hospital and it's also critical that we get the patients out was quickly as we can have you had to follow the nationwide plan and cancel operations routine operations of until January at the moment we haven't counseled any but we are reviewing the guidance that came out yesterday to be absolutely clear what we can do and what we can and we'll let patients know if we have to counsel their operations or defer to them for now but most importantly citric the sickest patients and make sure we've got the right beds in the right place with the right doctors to and this is to treat and what interests me a lot is is when you come here there are quite a few signs of a huge billboard out sign warning people that they could be if they're not if they're here and they shouldn't be they could be putting people who have life threatening injuries risk so you going all out to say to people make sure you need to be here do you find that some people come into this room here and shouldn't be here who we are people to think very carefully I think to consider to coming to the emergency department is an important decision for them they either don't know where to go or we're not telling them enough about the opportunities to get different access to health care and I urge people to think very carefully about going to emergency departments to seek advice from their pharmacists who know all about the common conditions that most of us suffer from so. She g.p. G g peace if you don't automatically come to any only come if you truly go on emergency breathing problems chest pain abdominal sentence otherwise you will wait a long time unfortunately because of the demand ound we are in danger of not treating all the patients as quickly as we should do and I'm sure most patients would expect those who will the sick has to be seen the soonest and how how conscious are you of this from tend operation here because this is where people come in they're under stress I do notice over the dogs over in the corners the door saying police others presumably a police presence here occasionally do you find that the general stresses can sometimes take over in any They absolutely can the critical points particularly in the evenings in particular at weekends where you know the combination of problems that patients have problems that such as alcohol ingestion particularly tend to spill over into villages it departments were very well equipped to do to deal with the staff of very well trying to deal with we were with our police and security services to make sure that those who need help and support got it just finally I know because we were trying to organize what time we were going to speak to you today you're in meetings later on with senior staff here is the situation that fluid are you making decisions as well as we go at the moment yes we may if not twice a day sometimes 3 or 4 times a day just to make sure we've got enough beds in the right place at the right time . So we heard repeatedly through the day from doctors from the says that they felt that there was a crisis of their hospital Jeremy Hunt saying not quite it's a difficult time but it's not a crisis so he's right well Tony lives he asked that question to 5 lives health correspondent Nick Tribble We know their 1st couple of weeks in January are always the toughest for the n h s pressure builds over Christmas as community services tend to be closed and you do get a surgeon and patients coming to any early in the New Year but it's also true to say that each winter seems to be getting worse last winter was the worst for a generation the winter before that had been the worst and many critics and commentators put that down to the squeeze on on funding there's been since 2010 it's been a lot lower than historically the n.h. S. Has enjoyed. And so if the spike was expected that what level of planning has been put in place to sort out a reason May says that there's been more planning in place than ever before for this winter Yes Will the impression that this streaming system use is something that's been replicated in many hospitals across the country there's also been more money put into social care to help hospitals get those patients out of hospital and free. Free up beds but the n.h.s. Also announced before Christmas it becomes sling operations up to mid January as you've mentioned today they're extending that to the end of January the idea being it just eases the pressure on hospitals now what's happened in previous winters is the the really acute severe pressure has only lasted a couple of weeks before it started easing and it will be crucial that the n.h.s. Is able to ease that pressure during January because they can cope with a few really bad weeks but if it goes on any longer than that if we have a severe bout of flu for example it could be much worse for the n.h.s. Across the u.k. This is b.b.c. 5 Live 5 Live In short. Next this week on 5 library 1st we had a brand new feed show for the brand new year breakfast of champions all through this year we'll be trying to talk to as many world champions of different sports as possible we got off to a great start on the Sunday night Rob cross won the p.t.c. World Championship in darts having only turned professional at the start of last year a man Chris breakfast started by asking Rob how it felt to be the world champion. Fairness it is feels a bit surreal it is to come in obviously whenever around and then tonight play the final Wiccans feel phenomenal is a phenomenal cause a big hero. So when it is obviously it's just amazing word