And so he's Nigel Balder now man about food and drink and you're going to be hearing from us annoy Joel between $1130.12. Talking the delicacies of Gholston. Talking delicacies we're going to go to one of London's most charismatic restaurants supply so I've known for years and years it's the quality chop house. Progressive working class culture is it says on the window and London's noted cup of tea. That's the call h.l. Passed up in firing than riding talk and they've got a book out. So will tell us. Between 103011. A little later you'll hear a Prima coded interview with Chris come on he's a lovely chap he was a football is a football pundit and now he is a singer. So. Finally we'll have some funky music shed with Graham in military. Programs going to be making a stance between one and 130 but you out you might have to do the dots in for me because I've got our roots and. 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London's High Streets and how's it going in terms of retired and restaurants and everything else and on this particular show we're concentrating our efforts in Boston and we're sending out one of our reporters Russ Ryan who is in the Alston as we speak good morning to you Ross morning robot how are you yes very well indeed sir so tell us exactly where you are. So at the moment I'm just outside a bakery called the dusty it's about. 500 yards from King's Lynn high street and that's where I've been all morning and we've been looking at the kind of retail landscape I got given east London so I decided to look at it and the story with really is that it kind of bucks the trend of this narrative of the decline of London's High Streets in people going to out of town shopping centers and not using the Arch Street it has lots of Independent Businesses it does have a few chains and they are starting to move in but lots of Independent Businesses it has a traditional East End fruit and vege market that is open 7 days a week and that still seems to be thriving and generally it's an area that's doing pretty well the thing we're concentrating on today though is the issue of gentrification because as I'm sure you know it's becoming one of kind of east London and has been for a while actually one of the standards trendiest spots and that's why we've decided to come to the dusty not because it's part of that gentrification if you buy a loaf of bread here. Principal the cost to nearly $4.00 pounds 3 pound 80 which is almost exactly it's a lovely loaf of bread and. It costs you 4 times if you were to get it in the supermarket so it is part of the gentrification but we've chosen it because it's a bakery that kind of is aware of its place in the community and kind of has a social conscience it was set up by a guy called Max Tobias and he used to be a gang mediator and the youth worker and he said. In order to basically provide a start for young people around the area has a social conscience will be playing a longer clip of his interview later but I think we should I think we should hear a flavor of it now if you got that it was less about the customers I mean obviously we need customers were business 1st and foremost but it was more about the process behind the customs. I was a bit fed up of trying to engage really hard to reach young people whose mindset was quite kind of closed and understandably quite fatalistic disenfranchised disengaged violent. And how do you tackle those feelings where you need to give them a sense that they are part of something meaningful beyond the sort of road culture that they've come to normalize right and a bakery is a hive of human activity and a kitchen is a hive of human activity and eating is a real people being together it's just kind of made sense. So a very very interesting Black Max device and I'm sure he wouldn't mind me saying not the thought you'd expect to have set up one of East London is newest trendiest artisan or Baker is not too bad and will be joining me here later at $1130.00 we're going to taste some of their lovely food here in the dusty knuckle and and some of the beers from the 40 foot brewery which is opposite the bakery and I believe you've got some of those bases well so we doing that and we'll be talking about Boston's food and drink scene and how it's changing so we'll be hearing from you later on that's Ross Ryan outside the dusty nickel biker in Dalston and as he said he's going to be joined by Nigel Barton the bit and they going to be talking food and drink I'm going to talk a little bit about London's High Streets I think most of them all of them many of them certainly in along the ones which is what I know best are doing a riot really I mean came in town busy. And it's a real mix come in town certainly hasn't been overly gentrified the queue outside Greg Smallman I'm sure was pretty that large and came in turns. A lot going on. Shepherd's Bush which I know very well. I actually think some of the actually judges got more diversity now more independent shops and it's had for a very long time so I think maybe maybe in the outer London bars in the London high streets a struggling a bit more are going to Soho it's absolutely thriving and to be doing that this afternoon about going to me avin me in. That some even are rather going because I'm fairly ropey and I'll probably end up buying a record or a book or something while I'm in it and I do think the oh at least I hope maybe it's a hope rather than I think I do. Hope that providing the retail shops put in the effort providing it is an old predictable shines because there's no point if you're going to buy from the predictable Chinese stores you mustn't buy on the and it because it's a similar experience it's kind of faceless and predictable whereas if you're going to go independent shops you get something else and something different and that seems to me to be a very good thing I also think is clearly a difference between stuff no one surely is going to buy bread on the Internet. Or get their nails done on the And it or go to a pub on the and there or whatever it might be so those things that we have to go out for they seem to be doing pretty well really Anyway that's my little thoughts on this matter. This is saying this because I can this is Michelle. Michele cello and her beautiful version of the event says enabling there were 2 excellent local high streets pit sang Alaina North Fields Avenue both of the old big nines like the cow at Tesco Bruce but the majority of the shops a locally owned independents mixed in with some good pubs bars and restaurants I live near wanna move the length of the other to work and back every day and apart from the occasional empty shop there by thriving local high streets. Says Vince I don't agree I think most of London's High Streets that I know of a doing alright I'm not saying they are under pressure I'm not saying that it isn't difficult I think the biggest strain in Precious seems to be coming from from increased rents and writes us once a couple of people whose us restaurants in particular in Canada have closed down we just said that the the the rents were so high so I mean I think that's something that has to be addressed because we don't want n.t.i. Stories it doesn't doesn't help anybody does it and I don't think they're empty because of a lack of kind of creativity or entrepreneurial ism among London's kind of business make as I think there are people trying to charge too much for the rent. But that's I guess that's a different issue and I also think what we do want is diversity like Simon was saying you know a place that sells loads for x. Amount of money when you've got the right place and buy one for a pound where you can so you have the choice. So you can you can go and buy cheaper goods or you can go and buy more expensive goods I don't is any problem with that it's when you don't have a choice I mean nothing and somewhere like bills which is incredibly diverse I mean I've got to do some food that's all I'm unusually from the fantastic local Turkish community and we've got a fantastic local Greek community for example in Camden Town who have some great buy groceries and there's a a Roumanian bakeries in Camden Town that's brilliant So I think providing you've got options it doesn't matter if there's expression ones and expensive ones and and trendy ones as well you know there's always the options in there that's the important thing. We've been talking about the Elton John movie yesterday with its director Dexter Fletcher is such a good chat. The It's 1030 here on the show on b.b.c. Radio London time therefore for the news headlines. Good morning in the last half hour Arsenal have sacked their manager Niamh Marie off to 18 months in charge the Gunners haven't won any of their last 7 games and last night fans booed and jeered the Spaniard following their defeat to Eintracht Frankfurt in the Europa League Freddie Ljungberg will take over as interim head coach but the Wolves manager new no spirit 0 sum to 0 is the favorite to replace Emery on a permanent basis Meanwhile Charlton Athletic has been sold to Middle Eastern investors almost 6 years after the club was bought by the Belgian businessman Roland to shuttle the new owners the street investment say they intend to do everything in their power to bring back a true sense of pride in the club which is currently 8th from bottom of the championship Labor has accused Boris Johnson of running scared after he turned down an invitation to appear on Channel 4 as leaders debate on climate change and refused to confirm whether he do a $1.00 to $1.00 interview with the B.B.C.'s Andrew Neil the conservatives have lodged a formal complaint with the broadcasting regulator off calm after Channel 4 refused to let Michael go stand in for the prime minister in last night's debate and replaced him with an. 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Thanks Matthew problems for the rather high is tunnel close southbound due to a breakdown so the tunnel close will try and retrieve it slow traffic anticlockwise on the m 2503 it's one through to junction 2382 for blue water looks that was going to be the shopping traffic that day reports of an accident on the a 24 opportunity road that's partly blocking atop some road southbound traffic a little slow from Tooting that station as a result and possible collision on the North Circular causing northbound delays towards the I 40 the hunger lane generator is certainly heavy with child x. Back towards evening your next travel is after the news at 11 o'clock. This is London but people tell it it sounds so simple but not when you tell it tell it really well it was like going off in your head b.b.c. Radio London breakfast with Vanessa Feltz cause that space to be objective is the b.b.c. And I also carry the discussion guest on my own that's why I'm not answering the question weekday mornings from 7 easy devil right to eat boiled eggs on a train passed anywhere else any other public transport no absolutely not the necessary weekday mornings from 7 b.c. Radio. And if you just heard the news bulletin you'd have heard the news that all snow. Sack their manager Pete worst become a regular occurrence this one so wait popping in to tell you of a managerial dismiss so and it's happening or stores are so you know Emery has been sacked after 18 months in charge of the spine injury previously led percentage amounts of the French title won 3 Europa League with the Via was appointed Gunners boss in May 2018 when he replaced awesome Venga the club a set of the decision has been taken due to results and performances not being at the level required the gods have gone more than 7 games without a win loss like the last $21.00 so on track Frank put in the police. Then they never would you think I think the odds were stacked against him in a last few weeks each might sound strange decisions if you like that started the beginning the season by allowing the players to appoint for captains we had the incident was Jacko when he came with the pitch. Making just a day just came to the fans about his feelings towards the club exempt the midfielder Ozil problems where he hasn't played for him so I think it was becoming a sign will his position there. For the limbo remember him that he's in temporary Congress next to the club yeah he's been the head coach for for about a year now and he's been put in temporary charge the names of already emerging Nora Gomez the manager of wolves is the favorite maybe Morrissey Opata change might come into the reckoning of. How the hell are. All the way in all the way that also a fact you know I am really out to just 18 months in charge of the gunners maybe off of anger might come back I don't know but little wonder whose What manager will be talking about this storm next week. Maybe Yeah well the times both keep it all's boss we had exactly having the best of runs we had what I mean 7 or something I mean we were in a bit of a one in 7 particularly me really well. The at Monk's road social and if it was all down to me. Oh then let's talk chops. Oh maybe more accurately chop elss Well that is really only one proper chop house it's the quality chop house and it's one of the great London dining institutions that the coffee certainly is for me because I used to dine there back in the 1980 s. When it was still kind of part of that very old Farringdon clock and well it's howdy and community and then I was there in the ninety's when it was taken over by the. What should we call him the very extravagant Charles formed who was a very good friend of mine and I'm really glad that it's still there but it's still serving up great food it still looks like one of London's most kind of charismatic restaurants and it's now got a book to its name called the quality chop house modern recipes and stories from a London classic and 2 of the people involved Wilhelm that he's the founder of the current incarnation and Sean Seeley executive chair chef are here with the snail will ensure Welcome to the show thanks coming out now for those who don't know the chop house our guess I'll leave it to you will to give us the the potted history of the place sure so it's 150 years old this year and the book it's a listed building as I'm sure you remember these original Victorian booths which show we can't remove and when once removed and it's got the windows Yeah yeah programs are going to ask exactly and it is not your cup of tea and none of that we hope will ever change in terms of what's on the play I think that has changed quite a bit as you've seen even before incarnation so it was very very traditional chop house fat up until about the ninety's then a more modern. Incarnation I guess and I think Charles had been at the Ivy before he opened not and we opened in 2012 Sean has been head chef since day one and one way that's in the middle of it was some old meat like meat both the quality chop house yet that was what we took over from Exactly so we brought it back to sort of well Sean could explain better but focus on brilliant produce British food but probably slightly definitely more ambitious than the chop house of origin hopefully taking on a level from from the ninety's I mean the one criticism the people ought to come up with a chop a bottom yes because you know if you think it might hurt your wallet but that's a different matter but it will certainly give you a little bit of an ache in this in the bottom of your back because it isn't the most comfortable of setting. I was I would acknowledge that so we have 2 rooms the one is the listed dining room with those booths that I mentioned which we have now added how I'm pleased to say yeah right and then the other side is a more traditional 2 top 3 top tables with no much has because at one point it was they so replicate the one with the other correct so that's that's its current incarnation but we do say we do so of smaller tables in the known listed bit where it's just more traditional tables and then larger groups in those booths and people put up with that with the p.c. To go in return they get a nice sort of Victorian experience and in terms of the food well how do you kind of define what you do we try to focus on a gradient on produce things that are. In season and we are very active and I think ahead of anything the produce has to. Be the loudest that has to be the best quality so we go you know all across the u.s. The u.k. Looking for the best suppliers the best producers and the best people to work with and the sort of the reflection on the menu is so simplistic approach to cooking but with fantastic. Jones for example I think I think sabotage the night but I just up the road Absolutely and you know in similar op we're looking for which is that the object is to seek the best ingredient and to not mess around with it too much I will said maybe it's a little bit more complicated that some of the dishes than they used to be but they're still your you know beautiful chops for steaks and you know the complexity lies in sourcing and then you get a chop in the truck house you absolutely can get multiple chops in the chop house and we have which is next door now we took the store and we've opened up a butcher's and a deli there so we were the whole caucus animals come in to the butchers and the prep for the restaurant so the store that link with fantastic me and great supplies and a new put great store bought wind as well don't you yeah that's always been a focus from the beginning you know food service and one of the 3 things that we always try to stand out on in all our restaurants an