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And welcome to 5 Live boxing with Costello and Vance we'll hear from stave in a moment but 1st as expected it's been confirmed this week that Anthony Joshua well defend his world heavyweight titles against the American General Miller at Madison Square Garden in New York on the 1st of June Joshua had been shuttle to fight at Wembley Stadium on April the 13th but that date has now been officially scrapped Miller is from New York with 23 wins no defeats and a draw on his record but he's never shared the ring with anyone of Joshua's pedigree or status in the sports he talks again though and Earlier I caught up with him on the phone from the United States where he explained how well known Anthony your show is to an American audience. Very well. He has a look you know for a Monday in you know somewhere around the person the like you know we're more aggressive over here if we want to bring some kind of increase in the last week or 2 that the police on to him or us Will Green who heard. Her say but you know he's really a prima donna and you can see how most of the. World has moved to the right you can rule the whole if. You said in the past that he's overrated Jiro But look he has got Vladimir Klitschko any record Alexander Povetkin Joseph Parker in today's heavyweight division that's that's formed just about as good as it gets his net. Sure but no one significant one champion really no one is the best for our guys that invited work income would be come June 1st we can of this we need journey of those 3 big names that have been mostly in the news in the last couple of years toss a few radio onto a wild and Anthony just who do you feel is the best fighter. I mean I mean we talk about the hand we give a he was all about the homeless our world but if you want to talk about numbers and money I think A.Z. Has had some good significant numbers too far King a promotion not to the strike targeting opponents every time when my eyes from either or snowboard I feel like I think that's really been doing good things in our side to really looks more like a heavyweight champion is Tyson theory is that they're in agreement to me to have been. Taking some elbow soldering they worked his way back into contracts and Jimmy's there were no media likes the looks pretty unit in please a rope when you come from the streets you understand agree to grind how to score is then it's a different kind of aspect of who is and has had unique because we'd be seen one have you a mentally breakdown and mentally strong come back we have the seen a mental breakdown from A.Z. I've heard of our craving to buy him and his canton all kind of crazy crap but I said before when you're protected and mostly a life then you far enough is really cool to be the Tigers are hated don't give a crap where you come from an eagle being a face every day the act different. Lucy. So that was Anthony Joshua's next opponent General Miller Steve Banks with me as always and I'd say stay that class wise Miller belongs just below Joshua and Tyson Fury and the Ontario while they're down in that 2nd tier among the likes of Daley and white I think he's down with a beginner slightly in front of him but I think he's done I think he's I think you can bang my Eloise but it plenty of guys on the chin other people have hit on the chin but I think he can bat he can be not necessarily outmaneuver but he can be out for you know people can now think it not necessarily win but so would Joshua A lot depends really might it does Joshua get sucked into the Big Apple the Madison Square Garden via the bit of history at Madison Square Garden does he get sucked in why does he buy into it and does he go out to try and impress because you can't be this guy like you be Parker they both Madison Square Garden Mike they booed if you remember rightly very recluse go to defend the start don't get so timid Brigham of train for fire and they booed and went for it there was only Russians and Ukrainians in the stadium and they booed their 2 national idols Trust me they'll do just you are if the safety 1st in the 1st round they'll bring one round you for the bully Madison Square Garden Mike that's a savage venue so Josh will be forced to perform if he's forced to perform if he's forced to take risks that gives Miller he's big chance and maybe some while he was only 10 minutes knocking out box Joshua 12 rounders Mike come on and this is the plan that we knew would be in evitable for Anthony Joshua at some stage to go stateside we weren't sure what stage in his career and there will be disappointment born of talks of. Anthony Joshua facing the other for a long time before while they went in the ring in December against Tyson Fury then the attention was diverted to Daley and white would it be a rematch Joshua versus Why don't I prove the 13th at Wembley Stadium it's been frustrating for fans it's been frustrating for the fighters and for promoter Eddie Hearn who's been telling me how it's been a long road to get not very far I would say the last 3 or 4 months have been extremely frustrating. But I actually like in a in a sick way quite exciting because there are some people down in and to me you know in my opinion wrongfully. You've gone from 100 percent back patters to I don't know percent backpackers and those papers and all well maybe don't want to take the real far as we know and you're in that group of we might because you know mentioning as well as most that he wants the big fries and he will have those big fines but right now I feel as though this is might be the kind of moment they need in his career just to keep you motivated keep him switched on and not think they've cracked it and not think that he can move. And there are some bumps in the road because at till this moment everything's been so smooth you know no disruptions every deal was straight forward to my base got to he's got to a level now where it becomes a lot more difficult so it's been frustrating and. Also we've seen a heavyweight division explode beneath us where he's still top of the tree whether you like it or not he is but now he has obvious clicking a tails which he didn't have before and from what I hear as well he was blown away by the experience of watching on the fielding against Canelo Alvarez at one of the hallowed arenas not just for heavyweight boxing but for the world looks to be honest so it was our I mean I've been to Madison Square Garden before and I've been for boxing haven't been since up in promoting violence and I walked out that night and I was always. But along the line and off the. Air and he walked out and he was like credible if you give him the choice 100 times out of 100 he still chooses the U.K. You know he still chooses women he sees law as Dan but if it means for me taking that lines then to Manhattan and to New York for the Madison Square Garden that is a major statement in terms of he's good. Part of it is not just about. I want to create a weekend for thought things British fans on a card that will be stacked with big fun for a career defining fought and just create that mad atmosphere that we go with the loss of Ricky Hatton you know. He's different to Ricky Hans fanbase but this is New York in the summer this is a treat for you get the boys the family the wife friends and that's I put in power but we want to create something really special so that we take that lion's den with us that he's created here in the. If it works at Madison Square Garden in the kind of weekend you're talking about he might not want to come back into the U.K. Would that bring the fight any closer Well we have to do what we have to do to become undisputed So if that's what if that's fear and you know in the talks with Walter since the firy fight with a VIN presented the numbers for us 5 it got to that stage and when people joke about how you said you didn't want to go to America now you fought in America I'm talking about the DNS I want to fight Antony felt the with what they were in the U.K. With how the fans is supporting him if he got that defining fight the 1st one should be in the U.K. But it comes to a point way this guy will not come does and so they have to go to his back to try and win that final battle probably. Maybe fury wins if eery wins fury against Joshua is 100 percent U.K. 5. Fieri does want the job I'm not so sure about well the main fury to do is just call missing and he's saying that literally 2 months there's been no desire to even NS It's high and A.J. Foyt is frustrated over these different dynamics but we've just being control of what we're doing and got there and completely turned the U.S. Marketplace on its head for boxing because they're going to see a real star would you accept that after December the 1st. While they're in theory beginnings in the States at the moment then Joshua yet probably other I think the juncture is benefits in the states the same why they've benefited in the U.K. What Walter did was he just. And a just so fantasize the bat him on Instagram for 6 months and it worked because people in Britain suddenly became aware of who Dion say Walter was and I guess I benefited in the states from his 9 being. Mentioned nonstop in the build up to us so you know I think that I definitely needs to improve his profile in the States and this is an obvious move. Now in how he fights now and now he looks and now and how behaves and he's going to be a complete superstar in America so you will see the spots where you have to wait 6 months 12 months you will see him because in my opinion he's going to be everybody in the division and that's what he wants to do and there has been that element of. So of us and then you know and I see it with Canelo obviously working with him now as well which seems like the industry wants him to file you know I'm not talking about fans I'm talking about promoters managers networks and I feel that I have negotiation details and so I don't know that fight is a talking or promote is a network's talking to each other to try and stop fights from happening this is the politics of box in and it's not news nothing new but we've probably never represented anyone the size of Joshua before so you know you see Walter and Thierry powered up in the 1st fight side we're here and we're fine and don't worry about Joshua but you can't ignore him because he's still the biggest star in the division the gap he's he's certainly shown me and we welcome that we welcome that but he's focused you know he's trying to ease he's ready and he's excited as well you know it's out of afp lands in terms of that how fight not how British boxing experience in New York and he's easy going to put on can we do this fight that fire and you know he a 6 ought is well probably a little bit no I mean I think Brooke McCracken a pro to be a little bit nervous now is that con of individual where. People say oh you know I should be yeah i should but it's a different environment now you'll find a New York in New York you'll find it different bring a different arena with different commissions with different hand reps with different one of the reasons Ben Davis and got Freddy Roshan to deal with commissions in the different worlds McCracken has the experience to not have to bring anyone in but you know what Ben did was probably right in that respect. Tyson had boxed in the US before Joshua hasn't so it is an experience and it will be a little bit edgy. But that Condit adds to the farm as well and whether I realize it now when no one does it will. Madison Square Garden New York asked about legacy as well as legacy is about winning Belles It's about being the best you can be but it's also about creating these incredible iconic moments and just here in New York is an iconic moment and in this graft and searched to win the on this beauty title is it being commercially naive to suggest that if you take a hit on the posts you get back in what you make for the brand in becoming the 1st and only ever anyway to own all of the 4 recognized males yes and we feel that we've done that to be machinery you know we're a point now in the negotiations where we never you know Joshua never really wanted to be commercially in my opinion now in the numbers we shouldn't really be you know in the likes of toss and fury where 64 we split has been offered to I. Fights out with no bail in a voluntary defense the she's you know this is this is a fair offer but it's not even been entertained so if theory while to have a classic if it does massive numbers in America the fight might be one of them might be we we accept $5050.00 for that final bell. Now once flip reverse in that to the other guys and I want science toss in theory do you believe you can be just sure so why would you take 40 percent and then beat a biggest star in well boxing because you're going to be I'm so easy on you know everyone Sam watches and Joshua to this jam any office of a people of might and see Joshua to fight in 08 be made picking up the phone is the mason name out to be me Mike in the office to everybody now office to us coming here on a new site to Waldorf ereal What can you big Joshua if you'd be just sure you are the biggest star in well boxing. So I must you really believe it no one's asking them these questions these guys A quick to criticize A.J. Without looking at the facts A.J. I will do it always does keep himself to himself believe in himself well because hard as he possibly can and got N.B.A. Everybody. And one for you personally to finish with the always clocking out any danger that your spreading yourself too thinly across 2 huge markets about 5 markets I mean we we obviously don't match in USA We've 16 shows we don't matter in boxing Italy we write shows in Italy Metro books in Germany we write shows in Germany were about to announce spine as well so we're going to be doing about 70 shows a year so I know as your question absolutely I am spread incredibly thin around fortunately not thin yet. And when you talk about legacy. I have my own legacy that I want to create selfishly and that is to create a promotional company that I'm rivals in the sport boxing and combat sports and has never ever been delivered before particularly by U.K. Companies the only reason I'm mad to do this and expand the business as I have is because the British Mark fans because they showed up at Wembley for French graves for Joshua Klitschko for Joshua picky I came down to Millennium Stadium for Josh or against Parker Josh or against Hackett and that is what was given our company the opportunity to expand it's not going to be easy we might fall flat on our face in a few years but will be fun trying busy times for Matchroom stave in the focal point of course is Anthony Joshua and of the many points to take from that interview one word needs Lee needs to build his profile in the United States that's kind of a change of tack because that hasn't always been the case well that's not cond of a change attack that's a drastic reversal desk obliquely not what he's been saying in the build up to a few wild and it's not what he said since fury and wilder but it is the true FIA said they're basically he's mildly echoed ball Barram skull into virtual comments to you from a couple of weeks ago Intel was cool for it was over for the Amir column press conference announce when he knows just about echoed those forces but wasn't being critical he may have got things wrong when. He said as of Josh reading for anybody of note but he wasn't being critical just telling the truth at the moment in America Joshua isn't the best known heavyweight and that's basically what he said what he said was probably he didn't answer you didn't answer your question with that weird the question which would have been nice instead so he didn't actually say Joshua is probably less known in America than water and fuel but he did say probably without the 1st bit so that's what he's actually right and that's understandable he said something quite interesting when you interviewed him in December Mike he was critical of the figures for Furia Walder he was critical of the pipe review and was also criti