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Radio and morning I'm sitting in for Joe's this morning we're talking all about 4 day working weight would it work for you in your life if your business are you know how would that work how would it impact you and your company has a company called it for a long starved to tell you a Friday off every 2 weeks to do sport swimming go surfing or read a book codeine you know that a few weeks ago the idea of a 4 day working week or would you see weekly hours as well to $32.00 without a pica as had labor backing and according to the both of the branding agency creation it's boosted creativity and employee performance but what do you think of $8756.00 double one would improve your mental health and well being it's a psychologist Cary Cooper you said flexibility is the future but the business Bossuet bosses would struggle because they need to control we spoke to Green Party n.e.p. Alexandra Phillips he says this move to a 4 day week needs to happen for mental health and well being to improve but what do you think of 80756 double one double. Cool 80756 double one double one b.b.c. Radio Kent. Hill and straight to the woman on b.b.c. Radio can you listening in on the ways in which you can this morning all about working a full day week and we've mentioned whether it would transform all sink a local business let's find out shall we Becky Sims is the c.e.o. Of reflects digital offend the Maidstone who stuff already work a full day week Becquet I so Becky how did the idea come about how did you make it happen as it was last summer we were thinking about one of our big family that challenging the norm and we were kind of having a discussion around what could we do exist in 80 change the way we can and to get more people time to do what I love home and and I don't love working as well but that quiet down time that you can be the best you can be a time we spend a summer looking at it working out how it would. Tell you that we've been doing it for a year now and how difficult was it some might that transition as a company to buy it really wasn't that difficult I think we gave a lot of power to the chain to make it work we kind of said at the start of the 3 month trial and if it doesn't work we will have to go back we've given him the 100 the tools and the ideas around it that we eat a workman. Just as they are cheese day to Friday so always a day before or after the weekend that you get off so you get that power for 3 days because I think that's because of the power in it. That's really not around listen that when you when you've got days off it might be one day today 3 days but when the roof fractured and when they're interspersed throughout the week you don't feel like you've had a rest because you then back in work mode in the evening exactly and I think is the real power of it I 3 days I mean it's a college a feeling every week and then it just means that we are always I 10 so right in 5 days awake we'll say unlike the Labor Party suggestions that within 10 years we'll go for a rate that would have cut hours we we couldn't afford callus my small businesses can't just say well let's leave the hotel. So we do longer days on those 4 days but again that's become a norm now so if we have to do a show today say on a Bank Holiday wait we do actually tend to get back to shorter hours to make now with work out and both I was going short We'll get so much more done in our longer days I think at the how we always longer Hey I'm imagining I will work in a way to midnight. Shift and night out 15 minutes so I start I finish it could cost that county to many people it's not really that long people probably do it already and I think that was also $1.00 of the things that we've heard from it people used to overtime and knocks they were asked to but just because things happen and and they be in the office maybe to a fix or whatever but actually then now people do that longer day but they don't seem to need studio the time because we are more productive and I think that's the key to it people want to enjoy their 3 days off so they make sure in those for longer days some of the time and clients on in on the phone except sure they've got a bit more quiet time to get work done they make it happen having that deadline sort of changes your mindset doesn't it kind of the all or nothing approach Yeah we just say well we're just finishing our behavior revenue not satisfaction from the caves up so we knowledge or think about that. Job satisfaction with that 90 percent and and wellness and we're trying to bring more kind of mental health awareness into the what we do in making people feel comfortable to talk about what's going on not just with their physical health but we've all been so comfortable he is talking about health strength and I just read I really have that impact and it's optional so some of the team it doesn't work. That I grew up with guilty 5 to it and that's the thing it's only a benefit effect that benefits. So interesting you said you know when the idea was born you were working to challenge the norm and that's is that we've all kind of accepted that knowing to follow you've you know 5 days a week is just what we do that is not a society how do you think we can encourage society to come take a step out of that box I think is just looking at ways to be flexible in my eyes that's not going to interrupt your business model and I think that's where all the fat that we still items 5 days I mean if we get close that day that could become a problem for clients they might need that website changing may not need something happening it's a business as usual day for them so we have to find a way how can this work work with a chain but for our clients it's not going back to anyone and I think that was the beauty of it as we introduced it and because the team as they came to make it work as well has been a real interruption to business business as usual for us is now 4 days away you can and it works for us on the table in the client and have you notice not necessarily sick days amongst the team that's an interesting one actually I need to go and check the stats on that but I would say I I think I think there have been and I just think there's a different atmosphere and a different feeling I remember that 1st October last year when we started it people are saying Man I felt the same like I do a new job I got my job. Because I get these 3 days that's getting through the weekend and I get home to life not been as well it's not always joy in your day off it's not always doing the things sometimes it's for the gym it's come to a doctor's appointment and I think that yes you can enjoy your work wake. And we've always been flexible but from the day down and then you got 2 days to really enjoy your time. Different and it works differently but I think power to think about it and then come talk to us or effect a show about how we've made it work we've shared quite a lot of our blog about it and I'm always happy to talk to business owners that one might relate because it can be a scary one but we're proof that it works and you mention that bank holiday failing to people feel happier to be in the building and be working because they know that they've got the sort of day in you know bank ready to spend however they want to spend it I think say and I think it's just it's the exchanges that are saying and it changes the ability to have long weekends away as well I don't have to use the holiday so actually people can be a lot more effective with their holiday planning so I actually feel that you've got more but unity to use your holiday for bigger things than just a day off here and there because actually that's that's a gift that we get every every weekend and I think for me is a big mystery and I think there's an incentive to get this luck in life that we can kind of sometimes do what we want because we run the business and I've never been that kind of manager I've always wanted to lead by example and people made the business owner give me permission to have a day off and not feel guilty because it's been something the pain gets and I think I think that's the case well when and when you work really hard you do the time to relax and and that is self and you head down and actually sometimes do nothing giving nothing is really powerful when you're busy awake Yes Totally it's interesting to read your management style because our 4 ecologist earlier on in the program Cary Cooper said that bosses would struggle with this was in forced because they need that control you know with the workers coming in and out the door a certain time you can manage people you can keep on or you can watch people and you've given them a day of comic gives them that freedom or flexible working gives them that freedom where you can't monitor everything that's been. Did you have to kind of change your mindset as a manager Becky when you transition we've always been very trusting about Heyman and I think you have to be these days I really do think that kind of that control mentality is starting to go away I'd like to get better every business but I think until someone if your reason not to trust them you have to trust them and I think also that doing things like this and having these kind of benefits within your workplace encourages more trust in the chain as well because they they're so grateful that being in this position that therefore they're not going to let you down because they want to keep this and they want to keep their job and they want to keep enjoying all these benefit but I do think the world is changing but I think to some is this is it probably will take a bit longer and longer to change it and being a digital business we we can be more flexible and people can walk anywhere and and that's not the same for every business definitely saying if you're Rechelle environment where you need to get a customer except I think it's just looking at how they can apply to your business and how you can find that trust in your pain to make it work it's really interesting back to you to tell about mental health and how it's difficult because it's been the case and it that we can do for bosses whether we've got a dodgy Leggo we've got some pain and we know we've got sickness we need to be off work but actually we really awful saying we're feeling low with feeling burnt out we've got anxiety because there have been that stigma how do you open the guy as a manager as a boss to say you know what you can tell me without any judgment so one of the things we've done this year and 4th attain including myself have done the 1st aid course with the John's ambulance which was a really tough 2 days because the take on a lot and that was the thing for me I thought I didn't know it that's about it and enough about all the different variety of things people if I think that maybe they don't even know they're fighting and I think that's part of it as well I think people are scared sometimes. Talk about it because 1000000 cells they don't have a diagnosis they don't know what's wrong and they just are feeling feeling low or stressed and they don't know how to cope with it so for us we want to get some attain so that's what could be 22 and maybe a bit less about hey now are trained to to not not be able to help people cope necessarily there's so much to know but to be a help issues and to try and understand how to have that conversation and what kind of advice where we could send them to next and all the different areas there are to help out there so I think by doing that it's set up the chain to say Are you ready are committed to this and you do want people to talk about it because it's so important I mean mental health is a buzz word at the moment it shouldn't be a trend but it is and will be interesting to see if society can move foods in a way where everyone can talk openly and when you say how are you not just saying oh yeah go I x. And pines or bits how it's actually you're talking about mental health and and if you feel a bit low if you feel a bit shaken if you feel a bit anxious because they were used to looking away especially the people in power forward see him work and it says you've opened those guy specular Yeah and we we introduced a really nice thing to all teen may think so at the start we care about the greater we ask everyone on a scale of one to 10 how are you feeling at work and how you get high and just a lousy people to stay arge No I mean no I don't work today I am really fired up but a home on a stick to like the housework piling up the list is happening and and just when people talk about that as part of the start of the may change that everyone has got a gauge of what's going on because our home life is intrinsically linked to our work life and vice versa and somehow you can feel great at work and not a home all the other way around why shouldn't we be talking about it and if we make a point to say let's talk about it and also if managers can share openly in business owners can share openly as well and feel comfortable to say you know either. So I have to say for whatever reason that's absolutely fine and that will help others to feel encouraged to do the same a good logical day Becky so interesting talking to you before we race to the news today's business is what kind of thinking about it what would you say to encourage them to move to a 4 day work in wake I think they just need to read any to work out what the likely impact is. Or he does all the positives of what it's going to do if you start that you need to think about what type of business you when your clients how can you make it work how would it need to flex How do you still make sure the team the time together so actually that's one of the things we have 3 days where we're working because of the Mondays and the Fridays off so it makes being aware of that and thinking how is that going to work for the pain to still be collaborative except and then just plan it out and put it all down on paper and look at is it possible let's do it can we trial or how can we put it in place and what would the measures they and then just give it a go and then by all means get in contact with me and I'll get more but he thank you so much that's Becky Simms the c.e.o. Of reflex Ditto a firm in Maidstone who stuff works 4 days a week and they've just had their business best business year so far so I think that says it doesn't it what do you think I 1756 double one double 121 minutes past 10 now let's get the news with Alex nice crime has gone up again according to new figures published in the last hour in the 12 months to the end of June there was a 7 percent increase just hours before Boris Johnson is due in Brussels for a crucial summit of e.u. Leaders these efforts to secure a deal have been dealt a severe blow them across it unionist M.P.'s who support is essential if this deal was to get through the Commons so they would not support an agreement as it stands the b.b.c. Understands the convicted paedophile from Ashford Richard huckle died after being strangled the 33 year old was attacked on Sunday in his cell for Sutton prison New York and the 3 mobile network has. Apologised to customers because of technical problems which means thousands of customers are now being unable to access force text and data services the problems began at around midnight now is another day of sunshine and showers or a bit of both Here's the weather Elizabeth it's a rather blustery day today particularly towards Castel areas or the basin sunny spells but to say some showers and some of the showers will turn out to be quite heavy but they will move around quite quickly with that blustery wind top temperatures today a 14 or 15 degrees Celsius then I have a night tonight and a very windy and the gusts of up to 50 to 55 miles an hour potentially with them to Rancho dampest through the early hours you're listening to enemies here on b.b.c. Radio Kent and we're talking about a 4 day working week you know a few weeks ago the idea of a 4 day working week or reducing weekly hours to 30 day without a pay cut has had labor backing so would you benefit from working a $4.00 day week and if you're a business owner how would this impact you would you be brave enough to take that step right 10756 double one double one time for your travel now. Traveling from b.b.c. Radio came down to talk with some 25 still clinging to that offer tolls from Junction to the a 2 clockwise over the Q e 2 bridge is unusually slow and the u m 20 is not doing c badly so why the fuck the lights are still out of action junction turn the a 2 is queueing into Dover from looking like stars of the world feel round about those roadworks which speaks all of a crash on up a street in Leeds most of the junction of force lane trains and ferries they're looking at James Wally more in 20 minutes. I'm 104.2 f.m. Into Internet Hyundai and Folkston and across west on 96.7 f.m. This is b.b.c. Radio can. Take. On Fridays and 11 on Sundays. Get off. Me. And on and. Pick Fridays from 9 am Sunday. You're listening to on the Luise here on b.b.c. Radio well can afford a way to get I did a disastrous audit what do you reckon of 80756. Sauna now she's on the line some you've got a cynical view. Yes Simon sounds like you've been surfing for the 1st i often and I didn't put it on speakerphone I was expecting the news. No I meant there are absorbed I work from home so I'm not quite sure how this will affect me I was I was actually still writing. Becky rather says an awful lot of what I was going to try to get across in the she's doing 4 days but she is still doing this for a full working hourly wake. Managing time better and I fully fully agree with that I think it is a far better way of working especially when you consider say you know there is a cold period Tuesday to Thursday when everybody is in. The business still runs through Monday and Friday and as. A customer as I can still deal with them are still get my output and hopefully things will work and I still get my hours 32 hours away community was solicited for example charging 200 pounds now does that mean you're going to then be challenging $300.00 pounds because you've got to make some that. Which is a bit of a worry there see that very thing but it does seem to be very much. People in the creative all the industries where people are being paid quite a lot already I don't see how it works only the creative industries the momentum of the all seeing is among society do you really think so I mean they're being paid the high grade of Pi Yeah you do you. Are they get published or can you still read and the struggling creatives Do you really think they're on the high pay bracket in society. It depends on which struggling creative you're talking about and struggling creatives that can consider a 4 day week or. 32 hour wake I doubt that they're on struggling I would expect that they're on a reasonable income. And certainly if you include for example a cheat of element within struggling all with that they're all whether it's the struggling side or the well side. Are to be struggling to find an i.t. Developer on minimum wage. Maybe in India but why do we associate having a Friday off and say going swimming or going surfing Why do you associate that with slacking or as a privilege when outside of work you know the hours under the sun Monday to Thursday if you're working 10 hour 11 hour days do not need a bit of a break on a Friday I've worked on both sides both as customer and deliver and as customer eyes had for example a 6 month project finally delivered from 3 creatives in this case it was our team development it was a software package very clearly defined it was rubbish it was utter and utter rubbish under so that the person or the company delivering that had also been. Out surfing at the same time that would have been the icing on the cake in terms of you know delivering something that was unusable by my comment because I was not the person or did it I was the person who was supposed to receive and check it over and I said to my boss I could write better my background is energy development I could write question in a way can't he challenge me and said Ok if you can say that do it I'll give you a week. Then had their project manager come in. To see my demonstration and I'm not I'm not currying at all beds with mine was no particular fantastic but it was better than that as he walked out of whites or never spoke to me again. It came out later that they'd used a trainee and they were charging so full of experience consultants he writes for somebody who just left college which So you can imagine a little bit cynical also you go whole the various creative types where you. Give an I did you say I want this you go and work on it and deliver something back in x. Amount of days oh wait 6 get on with it. And as he was saying there's an order and and no most amount of trust because if you don't have somebody for example would I change or creative or whatever who is both asking for the contract to be performed and then checking to tell you that if they don't know what goes on in that black box. Then they can be taken for a ride very easily. Happens much certainly when people deliver to the government because the government relies on its contract is the thing. Well experienced have having that skill which the government by definition almost doesn't because they they want generalists this is I'm not coming down that's the individual work there isn't if someone is hardworking punctual talented work through the hours under the sun and doesn't take the mickey then it doesn't matter if they're off skateboarding or surfing on a Friday do you if there's someone who doesn't meet deadlines who doesn't have a clue doesn't follow up and just leave interesting that you know we're almost certain for the weekend and I'm not going to follow up on anything and I'll just see one Monday then everything is going to crumble Absolutely and there you get the trust business because you without that trust and without that you know the trust both ways and you know the owner. And it can all work I'm sure it can and I'm sure the company that. Sends that people off the surface of the way you know the weekend or not the weekend because of the weekend anyway but on the Mondays or the choosers or Wednesdays when it's when when they might otherwise be working. If their workers are committed and I've been in a position where I had one particular worker. Here rived long before me and he left 10 in the evening and eventually I had I. After me I stayed out and I was chasing him out of the building and said You're not allowed to work the only reason was because he was so committed Meanwhile his his family life was suffering and there wasn't you know he had the impression that he had to work these long hours and I was saying no you don't so it works both ways and I Rall that than the 32 hour wake the flexible working that Becky proposed. Is a far better way are done flexible working. On For example in the oil industry 2428 days on 28 days of that structural that is not flexible but it's a very different kind of working and I think the grasping the necklet 9 to 5 doesn't always work. 4 days what you do you say a journey so that's good for the environment. There's all sorts of benefits and the more we're home again comes down to trust and as I said if you got a sister or somebody on a very high hourly rate to suddenly find they are subject to government interference not allowed to work 48 have to. Go to increase alley right there but maintain the same level of income Ok some in ash not entirely sold on the idea of a 4 day work in weight maybe more towards flexible working what do you reckon I weigh 10756 double one double one is it an issue of trust all people going to take advantage and just forget the work. And head off surfing and let everything fall by the Why are you listening to Anna Louise Hay one b.b.c. Radio can now 2 bricks a prime minister boys Johnson a been hoping to arrive in Brussels this morning for an e.u. Summit to sign off on a bright day Oh but intensive talks between British and e.u. Negotiators yesterday failed to deliver an agreement despite positive signals that one was close to being down the sticking point which is preventing a breakthrough appears to be in the position of the day you pay as Unionists they fear that in order to deliver Bracks a Northern Ireland will have to adopt rules which differ from mainland Britain so as to avoid checks on goods crossings the border on the our oil and of all and now Tonnesen is a political commentator money Mark good morning summarize where we're at right now in politics with Bracks it. So well a vision where Boris Johnson has tried to get a deal I mean even the massively compressed time constraints largely of his own making because he's the one who insisted you know we would stick to this 1st of October deadline and he's desperately trying to get some kind of deal and I think. Most observers suspect that it wasn't going to be possible to do within the time frame I think what we're now seeing with the objections of the pay in the fact that although the been some positive noises coming from all camps in the last days that may be trying to get that final stop final can be the most difficult to get because that's where all the old really difficult things are you know in the in the detail the devil is quite often in the detail in these things so I mean it just the suspicions are that there won't be a proper deal to bring back to the Commons that might be something like a heads of terms which would be 'd a kind of in principle and it might be divorced Johnson tries to get that through the Commons but the idea that that would be a fully signed off legal tax to be ready for us to leave on the 31st of October as far as I can tell most observers think that's very unlikely not right today is the summit what is the agenda looking like today well we're going to keep talking and going to keep trying to thrash out these details but at the end of the day if the d.p. Are not on board for this deal then burst on to risk being in the same position that reason I was in which is that you know he will even claim that he can get a deal through the Commons us to resume a claim to them but ultimately if the Da aren't on board it's likely that these that reasonable chunk of theology the European Research Group of Tory M.P.'s also won't be on board because they will take the lead on the situation in Northern Ireland from the d.p.p. So very stringent desperately need to get the d.p. On board even with the d.p. It will be very touch and go without the deep a I think you can forget it getting through is the special sitting that pays still to be expected to go ahead on Saturday and 8 days and I've just seen that the Labor Party you know going to wait for whatever vote ends up going through to attach a 2nd referendum so it's now possible that Boris Johnson might have a chance of getting whatever he brings back to the Commons through which. Like this because if you're going to cancel the referendum because that is absolute anathema to many many to real we could be in a very difficult bind with the only possible way. By agreeing to a 2nd referendum which he doesn't want most of his party to so he could in a in a worse position than 3 he may have exam to capitulate on so long as still not over 31st deadline still doable I never thought it was doable and it was a likely campaigning device and. Johnson family on the attack because it was very much a hostage to food and the fact that the intensive discussions when he started in the last. Indicate just how desperate I suspect because by Johnson he used a kind of blustering his way through situations and managing to kind of say things that maybe aren't quite consistent with what he said a few months ago many many times that he would find a way to try and blame other people for this and just drawn to that's what he does . Lots of food for thought there more than a political commentator here on b.b.c. Radio listening to one of the ways. Still it's still. A. God. Please. Mikaela is. To. Be. His Lady like Ingrid and dress on b.b.c. Radio can't be listening to any Louise time now it's $1040.00 Let's get the news with Alex Bish New figures show overall crime here in Kent has gone up in the year to June by 4 percent robbery up 19 percent violence against the person rose 9 percent nationally knife crime has also gone up again just hours before Boris Johnson is due in Brussels for a crucial summit of e.u. Leaders his efforts to secure a bricks and deal have been dealt a severe blow the u.p.a. M.P.'s who support is essential if a deal was to get through the Commons so they would not support an agreement as it stands and animal cruelty frightening and vehicle theft were just a few of the issues dealt with by Ken Surulere task force during rural crime week police officers also sees catapult ball bearings annoyance which they believe may have been used in connection with poaching offenses Time now for a look at the sport is Michael Moore star of cricket against Joe Denly wants to play for the oval Invincibles in next year's inaugural 100 competition the draft takes place on Sunday then he's got a great record at The Oval what's taking a hat trick and scoring a century in the same 2020 match there and playing for the southeast side we see him link up with Kent head coach Mike Walker. He's well aware that I would love to play to the Ivorian and she was always enjoyed playing there not got a pretty good record there and it's a tough one isn't the draft is going to be an interesting watch obviously $100.00 clashes with Test cricket next year so it's coaches will be involved in the test score than I might not be such an attraction for them so hopefully I'll get picked up and hopefully. Will stay with the cricket and with the Spirit 1st can Captain Sam Barings will once again play for the Bengal tigers in the t 10 league he was retained by the Tigers in this year's draft the tournament starts next month in Abu Dabi George Ford has been benched for England's rugby world to. Cup quarter final against Australia on Saturday 0 in foul moves to fly our fall really believe in a polar says he's pull stage ankle injury could be a blessing in disguise as the number right returns to start the last night match up to snow could inspire Hawkins' place for Globe Ron in the 3rd round of the English open this lunchtime round for the shed jeweled for tonight at the Kate's in Crawley and speed of their heaviest to face the season in the 1st leg of the National League grand final against Leicester beaten $5931.00 by the backups that is starting like is Monday night at Central Park City that's the sport with the weather now is Elizabeth Razzi any sunny spells but also some showers around today some of the showers will be really quite heavy and it was time quite blustery the south westerly wind really picking up as we had 3 the softening up temperatures of 14 or 15 Celsius then I have a nice night tending even windiest still gusts of around 50 miles an hour towards the coast and they could be said to wrench maybe even a rumble a tape of thunder will and then I turn around 8 or 9 degrees. 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Radio you can see listening to and the Louise announcer books will favorite way overeating a book all you want about a proper pipe a book with pages you can physically hold on to cover or do you prefer some sort of Avery to develop for those if you prefer a book you can actually get your hands on well the good news is paper books appear to be making a comeback research from retail analysts Mintel shows that more than haul 5 s a still bawling conventional books with the number going up by falling 5 percent this year meanwhile only about a 5th of people are choosing e-books and that number has stalled some people heralding this is the return of pipe about books in the same way that volatile records fell out of popularity I don't need to mike a comeback so you do you love the convenience of being able to carry around thousands of books on your on your Kindle or would she miss the pleasure of spending a long wondering. Bookshop if you gave up your paper about books how do you like to read way do you like to read and what influences your choice All right 10756 double one double won't give me a ring k. Hutchinson is an author and publisher by steering Ken's morning good morning big question is do you prefer a physical book or do you prefer to scroll on a Kindle or in a reader when he read pare simile I prefer an actual physical book because it totally escapes prism you're not in touch with technology you're not disturbed by the technology you can really really switch off that's so interesting you say that because I've pretty much got everything on my phone my smartphone now and when I commute to London it's got my podcast it's got my music it's got work an email social major in all the rest of it and I have been guilty of it dare I say that I've been literally just streaming everything I've wanted all the entertainment or whether it's dinner that we're looking out the window and it was only the other day rest for me but my thoughts and I was going to switch my phone off to my train journey and I'm going to look out the window and it's so true isn't it now you know when you take a book with you I went to a bookshop and she bought a whole shelves worth of goods I mean it's a Christmas and being away from my phone being able to squish and hold and have that concept with the book made all the difference I felt so much better and it took me back to my teen days where that was the norm now so far from that I know indeed I think there's something nice to it if you get a new book The smell of the book the feel of the book what does the pages feel like what's the touch like but I think that you know people are just so time poor these days it is much easier to have the accessibility of your for your tablet or whatever I do understand why people are doing the books and even you know audio books on the move but actually for I think I think most people still love that real physical sort of kind of an old fashioned feel. And it's interesting that they're saying that it's coming back I would like to see that because when you look at the all these wonderful people that serve books in Waterstones or other shops where they knew all about the different books that is a really nice part of choosing a book talking to them about them and being in a lovely physical place where there's just endless variety of books and people who know all about them there to share in this something about also carrying a big stack of books primo sort toppling out and then leaving a bookshop were 2 big heavy bags or something very Saturday out here and I was just thinking to for Christmas I mean do you want to give someone an e-book or would you rather give them a physical book obviously you want do you want to be on that something up no you in and put a little recommendation never get forget one of my friends actually she made a mission for one year to give us all for birthdays a book that would relate to us and she picks something that related to all of our hobbies or interests and I have one about horses and she did the most beautiful packaging and she wrote little source notes in her own words of why we love it on the front end and it has that but there are so old fashioned feel. Things and I think I think there's a value in it as well if you get an e-book you know it feels such a free and it's certainly cheaper you know if you're actually buying a physical book it tends to be a little bit more expensive but actually you feel the value when you've got a thing rather than having something that you can just scroll through technical device it just becomes a bit lifeless like an app doesn't it or your emails it just becomes part and parcel of of that based Yes with more books I like to crunch them so you and I fold over the 5 yes we belong something highlight a piece if I like it I do. Yeah I love it look people don't like that but I like to do that if there's a bit that really stands out for you to actually mark up I think that's nice a years later you pick up that you flick through it and you can see the bits that were important but I know a lot of people would not like the. Told it's interesting you must have a room difficult relationship being an author and a publisher do you feel that kind of do you feel a sense of being torn I think I think all that it's done is it's meet me take a kind of wider view and actually my view of where publishing is going my tiny little view from being at a small publisher and an author is that we're like t.v. And radio we're expanding the opportunities for experiencing books in different ways so I don't think the physical book will ever die out I mean it's great that it's saying that it's doing better but I actually think all that's happening is this world is expanding in the real abilities going lots different places and I've I've kind of had to do that because although I would like all of our books to sell physical meanly or our or your books or are sort of comic strips and things like that I definitely think that. You know I just have to be willing to sell them through all the channels because the poor support thing is discoverability for a publisher so I'm afraid you have to just be real they're everywhere for everyone because you know you can't be picky about you know if someone professed to consume you've got to be there for them and I mean I imagine it is an increasing challenge trying to make reading exciting for kids when they've got all the distractions of screens of fire small phones technology how do you mind reading science and how do you make people go out and buy a book instead of a game Yes Well I think that essentially comes from school or the parents I mean some children are actually naturally drawn to reading and the into it from a very young age but actually I think it's the it's the people that the encounter who can actually. Encourage them to do a bit of reading it shut off the phone or whatever and actually spend and I think once you get a chance to really experience reading that fairy very private experience that and that different experience from being on technology I think you can fall in love with it provided you find the right kinds of things to read and things that are exciting it's just a different experience though and I think the adults have the key. In this link very much to some shocking stats out today that says around one in 8 schools don't have a lawyer very with poor children less likely to have access to one than their rich appears according to a new study and you just think Gosh if schools don't have the case like you say to a library that space that so much more than just picking a book is the atmosphere isn't it a space to read and it is partly our fault that that's happened because you know we're all wanting to use new technologies but remember everyone has a public library there's still an opportunity even to get e-books and audio books from your library and there are still fantastic public libraries around so even if you don't have one in school there's always an opportunity to actually experience these things even if you can't afford it I mean a lot of these things are absolutely free from a public library which is great where do you like to read talking of switching off the tech taking a physical book those may switching off on the train and grabbing my book and snugly up against the window where do you like to think about if the weather is good enough I like to read in nature in a park in you know in you know I like to go walking into you know for example you know the sort of Iraq sun all the rest of it I do like to have a walk there and I would take a book and read a few chapters and I find that really really nice because you're completely on your own away from everything but you know I like I like to be. And undistracted went on when I'm reading a book so either that or in the house or late at night bad do you fear for the future of the fact we're more connected than ever we've got smart phones smart watches small speakers it's all moving in that sort of robotic Why do you fear that will ever leave the harbor behind with a paper about but well I think that there's there's obviously we're changing all the time it's in we're in transition but I think that there will always be a place for physical books I think the worst be some people who would just never really want to to use the tech and technological fare ssion So I think I think will always be a plea for a place for it but let's see do you think that there will be yet more formats the ways of enjoying books emerging in the future other than the readers and physical books do you think we could see some sort of oh I all I definitely I mean people are already working in that area to make things much more interesting for example if you took one of the I'm sitting with here I mean I could imagine for example that some of the therapy I'm holding up the My Life in 37 therapies but actually when it be wonderful if you pick up a chapter you read it you think I really fancy doing that but I don't want to do it the year I want to do in the country where she went to do that and you could actually transport yourself you could immediately click in and it would give you an opportunity to do that Kay thank you so much been fascinating to me this morning that since an author and publisher based here in Kent You're listening to b.b.c. Radio you can approaching 11 o'clock am the news. With Alex parish in the past half an hour Boris Johnson has announced that a great new Brooks it deal has been agreed with the European Union that takes back control in a tweet the prime minister said Parliament should now get Brick City. On Saturday the president of the European Commission George Clooney Juncker said it was a fair and balanced agreement for the e.u. And the u.k. However in the past few minutes the who's 10 votes the government might need to get the deal approved in the Commons have said they remain opposed to the deal is our political assistant editor Norman Smith I question and I don't know whether this is a bit of gamesmanship on the part of Doris Johnson to try and bulldoze the d. You piggyback on board in other words to say look. Brussels is happy they're prepared to sign off on their I'm prepared to sign off for that the only problem is you guys in other words massively cranking up the pressure on the d u p to back down New figures show overall crime here in Kent has gone up in the year to June by 4 percent Alistair monk reports figures from police forces indicate that in the 12 months to the end of June 9th offenses rose by 7 percent to just over 44000 but there was a fall of the number of homicides involving knives gun crime is up 4 percent here in Kent robbery went up 19 percent violence against a person rose 9 percent mark crime went up by 5 percent In other news the b.b.c. Understands the convicted paedophile from cancer Richard Hochul died after being strangled Jack had a way well or has this update the fair to 3 year old from Ashford was attacked on Sunday in his cell it for Sutton in prison New York the material used to strangle him it's sort of been a bandage of some kind it was also stabbed with a makeshift weapon which may have been fashioned from a tooth brush the police investigation is reportedly focusing on a fellow inmate jailed for serious sex offenses it is understood he's been placed in isolation pending investigation of murder has not been arrested or charged in 2016 Hochul was given $22.00 life sentences after admitting $71.00 charges of sex abuse of children aged between 6 months and 12 years some other top stories this hour and services on parts of the London Underground were suspended during this morning's rush hour when climate change protesters targeted the chief network there were angry scenes at Canning Town as frustrated commuters dragged one activist down from the room.