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This hour for not only 5 live on Dawson added and this hour is dominated of course by the news broadcast just 2 hours ago that the child will come for the Thomas Cook has collapsed and the impact surveys being felt right across this country not to talk of right across the world indeed I'm still going to be trying to get Simon Calder the travel expert back in often hours times odds of any questions you have remaining full him so feel free enough gas time will tell you whether to go back or not and at that time the number to call will be our usual number of 808-590-9693 can tax us from now on 85058 or email up for not a b.b.c. Dog. Thanks very much for your e-mails and texts so far many of you have been talking about how sad the news is and particularly for the 22000 staff who've left their lost their jobs at these it's almost book stuff 22000 of them have lost their jobs and of course there are tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people affected by the collapse as well so we'll take more of your calls and texts and so on later let's get up to date now just to remind you if you're just waking up to the news one of the world's oldest travel operators Thomas Cook has collapsed after failing to reach a deal on a rescue plan the firm will stop trading immediately leave around 600000 tourists abroad on their holidays and 22000 jobs as I say. At risk or if not lost completely the Civil Aviation Authority will now trigger operation massive horn to bring British travelers back to the u.k. What's expected to be the biggest ever peace time repatriation the Civil Aviation Authority have also noticed a 24 hour helpless. And for anyone affected the number to call is 03030328000030030328 . And if you're calling from overseas the number to call is plus 44 that's the country code 175-333-0330 extension 5 lives just in Bones is it Manchester Airport for us and just remind us what has happened over night. Well I think the best way of describing it is just looking at the departures and arrivals board here at time one at Manchester Airport just looking at the departures board between 5 and 7 o'clock 8 Thomas Cook flights to depart they're now flashing up in red as cancelled the last few Thomas Cook flights to arrive are on their way to the airport right now the last one will be coming in from New York. 9 o'clock this morning we've got flights still jus in from places like Orlando once those planes land they won't be going anywhere and they'll be held here at the airport at Manchester airport so what's happened and this goes back many many years Thomas could because as struggled for a number of reasons it could be put down to its purchase of the mind travel company back in the early 2000 it's suffered because it was one of the largest told a companies in countries like Turkey and she needs you in Egypt which were obviously unfortunately hit by those terror attacks it suffered from things like high prices it says it suffered from bricks it but most of all it's also suffered from a large amount of competition and that's modern competition where people are able to book their flights and hotels themselves online while still the companies have been able to modernize and do things differently around that Thomas Cook has always struggled and it's always had its legacy debts yesterday talks were held to try to save the company that had been a big focus in a Chinese company which will. Book Club had been looking to invest heavily and buy some of the companies debts however the banks earlier this week put a demand for that Thomas to set aside an extra 200000000 pounds that was 200000000 pounds it didn't have and 200000000 pounds it couldn't get from anywhere those talks went on late into last night but broke down very low. It's on and then at 2 o'clock this morning the announcement was made that the company had entered into liquidation important thing about liquidation It means well that's the end for the company the administrators will now look to try and sell as many of the assets as it can to try to recover some of that money back with regards to the turn to choose 1000 jobs chairman school employees what will happen to those jobs of those employees just simply lost their jobs no no they have 9000 of them here in the u.k. About 3000 of them here actually in Manchester this is where the and lines headquarters is those people would have lost their jobs every Dundon see payments situation is currently playing the amounts of money that they will get there is competition for jobs still within the airline industry it is still a growing industry remember that's why we're seeing things like Heathrow looking to expand Manchester Airport here is has also been growing search shows that there is still a growing aviation industry there are other jobs but a lot of those people would have been working at Thomas Cook for a very long time and some of them going back to the days when they purchased the mine travel company and tools as many people remember so they would have been with the company a very very long time they'll obviously now be waking up this morning without jobs you heard earlier from Chris who was a member of cabin crew was talking about the great camaraderie between the staff even flying home yesterday and if you look on social media they've all been sharing and posting messages using the yellow hearts of the symbol of Thomas Cook and did We'll have that call from Chris who called us from Crawley a member of the Chalmers. Thomas Cook employee a member of the cabin crew I think it was reported that. Cabin crew indeed will interview that conversation again about 7 minutes to. Look obviously a collapse this size of any British company is also a matter for government I know the transport secretary groaned Shapps has commented What did he say and if there been any other. High profile reactions to this Yes Grant Shapps was quick to put out a statement basically explaining that the government is now backing the CIA with the largest ever repatch ation in peacetime people from abroad 150000 British holidaymakers are having to be brought home he did patience with that because obviously it could take some time it's expected to take 2 weeks and people may not get back at the time that they were shy jewel to do so also the business secretary separately energy a lead some has announced an inquiry into the collapse of Thomas Cook what actually went wrong and what more could have actually been done to unions in the last week had been urging the government to put the 200000000 pounds required in to help save Thomas Cook to save those jobs but those. Found on deaf ears with the government saying yesterday it was reluctant to do so despite the fact that one of those banks that wanted that money was r.b.s. Which of course is still majority owned by the government. Indeed and what's the situation now would see official advise from people who have booked flights so are on the moment and don't know what to do. Well 2 separate things really one is for those people who are currently on holiday I have a friend who's in Greece at the moment they're being told that they will be brought home in the next 2 weeks we understand about 40 planes have been chartered by the Civil Aviation Authority and they will now be flying out to all the Thomas Cook destinations some way believe flying out yesterday ready to start bringing passengers home there is a website and phone number which I know you've already given out but I will do it again because this is important for people the website is Thomas Cook dot c a a dot co dot u.k. The phone numbers from the u.k. Over 303032800 I'm from the u.k. And Ireland sorry that's in the u.k. And Ireland if you calling from overseas 004-417-5333 extension 33 you can probably hear in the background announcements are being made at the airport for passengers who are Jew to fly out with Thomas Cook one of those announce what's going on at the moment and actually. We can. Just repeating what I've just said passengers who are Jew to fly with Thomas shouldn't turn up there is no flights their flight will not be departing today what they need to do is go on to the CIA website that will be able to help them get a refund of that money if you booked a holiday sometime in advance do exactly the same however you may also be covered by your credit card company and the rules of Section $75.00 that means if you spend more than $100.00 pounds with on your credit card then the credit card company will be liable for refunding your money we understand the credit card companies have been putting money aside for the eventuality of this happening and just like I say looking through the deep. Just bored now and see one fall 38 and say 194 cancelled by the dice but Jeter got 5 o'clock this morning if you would join any of these Thomas Cook flights today you're being told don't turn up at the airport your flight will not be going and unfortunately when you start your holiday just in thank you very much Father I was just in Bones a Manchester Airport and given that he's a producer wake up to money you can imagine the last thing he was expecting this morning was to be at Manchester Airport wake up to money follows up all night. Just after 5 o'clock now the travel expert Simon Calder is going to be back with us after 430 and we'll continue to take your calls of any questions that you have for him the collapse of of Thomas Cook and how it affects you your travel plans and so on and will continue to take your calls 100-800-8590 extension 9693 if you've got any questions for Simon Calder 008-085-9096 extension 93 earlier the 2 of us both myself and Simon spoke to the Civil Aviation Authority spokesperson Richard Stevenson who gave me his reaction to the news of the traps Well of course and we're all very sad by this piece it is such a shame that a company with such heritage has ceased trading and you know everybody here the CIA has everybody who has worked at Thomas cave it is very much in my thoughts and we are now launching an repatriation operation to bring him more than 150000 people who are across 18 countries so we are focused on what you know operation this morning and making sure that we do everything we can to help and is it the government the saucy to do that the government is also Ca to step in and to run this repatriation process. Graham say we are now making sure that we have aircraft in the right places around the world to launch that repatriation program and t. Bring people back to the u.k. 150000 British It's estimated. All of those books with Thomas Cook at the moment so there's been much made of this fact and even the. Mention in this is the biggest reproach relation of British citizens since the 2nd World War Is that how you see it is. Absolutely how we see it and we've been working very closely with the poem for transport on this. We very unfortunately have to manage the repatriation following the administration of Monaco lines and at the time that was the longest repatriation effort this is a much bigger operation and now unfortunately we also have that. It will become famous for being the largest repatriation since large peace time you touch ration how much destruction is that going to cool. While the other more than 150000 people are across 18 countries and we are now making sure that we have the right number of aircraft probably about 40 acro asked to operate one of the U.K.'s largest airlines effectively for the next few weeks and that will be some disruption and you know we have set up a website to help everybody impacted by this and people can find that it Thomas could see a dot com to the u.k. That Thomas could see a u.k. And that website will give passengers the customers all the information that they need to find the information on a new flight back to the u.k. It also has some other helpful information and guidance for people here on caught up in this situation would it have been just simply. Disruption for the government. For 200000000 pounds Richard needed. Well I mean you'd have to also a government that that's not ready for this I mean we are focused very much on the repatriation program that we're now launching make sure that we've got the aircraft in the right place making sure that I website is up and advising people we have a call center as well that people can reach 183-030-3280 Siri and we just want to make sure that we're doing everything possible if the course of the next couple of weeks when Thomas Cook would have more than 1000 flights to do everything we can to help the situation to bring people back to the asylum a do you have any questions or regions I do a very. Good morning. Very very sad about what has happened very quick technical question the operation very complex but from what I've seen in previous episodes very well run are you going to be up for 18 long hole to cross the Atlantic to places that you make to Mexico to the u.s. Or are you going to buy capacity on shuttle flights coming in from that side because a great question and we are teaming up with the airlines to operate some of these flights we operating with that mindset going to be dealing with people who currently in places like Cuba and we're going to be teaming up with a transatlantic operated t. . Make sure that people can access seats on transatlantic flights say we won't be operating many of those flights across the transatlantic right Ok one question which I think a lot of people will be wondering you've got these flights flying out from the u.k. Empty bringing people back why can't people fly out on the bus I mean this is a program that we're bringing people back to the u.k. And when you have one of these repatriation programs we have to make sure that we. Using Croft as best we possibly can and ensuring that the turnaround times are as tight as they possibly can be to make sure that we bring as many people I mean most quickly as we possibly can we are not running any outbound because as we get into the 2nd week of this operation the number of people that will need to repatriate back to the u.k. That will start to decline if we continue to take people out then of course they'll be more people out there to bring back again and that's something that we simply cannot be. If I may just have a very very quick final question to something that automatically mentioned I think just before you joined us how can any company have this many of its bookings and more particularly how come just before midnight Thomas Cook was still selling holidays who's at the fair thing to be doing well again so I mean you know I'm sure there will be a time for all of those questions but right now we are an hour into our repatriation program it's the biggest thing is the biggest repatriation program ever around and we really need to keep a focus on that settee for the next few days but I'm sure you and I'll be talking about this in the days to come I don't doubt. Richard now apologize just one final question you mentioned that this is the biggest pays to Army proud tradition of British people. Any time since anytime since the 2nd World War America's And I wonder when you this massive operation you've been sending planes across the world to collect for people so you would have had some inclination by sending those planes that that Thomas Cook wasn't going to be saved that the company was going to collapse why wait until it's really about 50 minutes ago so now is that collapse when you you had pretty much you know solid information to new about this otherwise you would have said those floods out all around the world well of course in a situation like this. It's not a vent. Well it's a and we have contingency plans that we look at all the time to deal with any eventuality that we are asked to manage and that is what we have done here but you know in a situation like this we cannot act until such time as. Something has gone through the court process that is what happened here on this evening that directors have made the decision about the company's future and we then have to