To improve infrastructure and investment outside of London in the southeast and the 1st steps to be to bringing water and energy industries into public ownership the mobile Johnson's visiting for Labor held seats in the north of England the prime minister will give a speech in Sunderland which voted to leave the you where he's expected to tell voters that Labor has let you down and the parliament has denied Bracks it campaign is recusing un negotiates his of playing politics while the climate crisis grows he comes as ministers from governments around the world are arriving in Madrid for the final days of key talks on the issue it's the last conference of its kind before the us pulls out of a major climate change agreement Andrew lights a former advisor at the State Department the United States has been one of the most creative forces in these negotiations for quite a long time has worked very hard to try to bridge the gap between what people say are the duties of developed countries and the rising emissions in developing countries try to get all major emitters in the world regardless of their backgrounds to come forward to make ambitious commitments under the Paris agreement and when they go away it's not really clear who's going to step in tributes are being paid to the us rapid juice wealth who's died at the age of $21.00 he reportedly had a cardiac arrest at an airport in Chicago yesterday his record labels described him as a gentle soul these creativity knew no bounds. 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Some media describe it as a gang epidemic that we've got. The gangs a youth crime dominates the headlines for all sorts of reasons whether it be knife crime or gun crime or what they now call county lines once upon a time none of us knew what county lines meant but now even the prime minister and the secretary and others talk about county lines as if it is part of the narrative of Britain today Well we've invited in a gangs expert for want of a better way of describing him Sheldon Thomas runs an organization called gangs line if you've got any questions for him about the state of gangs in Britain today now's the time to pick up the phone of 808-590-9693 you kind of calls text him 18558 or Emo up all night at b.b.c. Dot com u.k. Before we get there there is one thing left to do on up all night we call it have a for nigh on a weekend without hearing from Lynn Sweet of the Chicago Sun Times about what's in the paper this morning Lynn Good morning and hello to you and I know you want to start off with a story that we've been covering as well tonight about the rapper Jesus world who has died it was a Chicago Midway Airport yes this is when I heard when I was listening to the news with her I came out and I thought Oh my goodness this death of this young rap star even is on the top all night newscasts I'm so glad that we're talking about it because it means a lot of people are interested in what is just a tragedy so Chicago rapper juice world or he's When you see it in print it's uppercase w r l t This is a 21 year old who was raised in the suburbs of Chicago. It's an incredible success story so the deal is early this morning he's And in the private plane space at Midway Airport Chicago has 2 big airports most of our listeners if they travel internationally might have heard of O'Hare but this is another big one and he had apparently cardiac arrest he had just turned 21 as I said 6 days earlier and the and this is where a local paper hopefully can really give you some details about this tragedy so emergency's crews were called at 2 am to the airport and he was pronounced dead at our medical examiner's office and his real name is Jared Anthony Higgins and there is now going to be an autopsy scheduled for the moment out and no one suspects file play but this is just the procedure when you die under these circumstances for Chicagoans he's a homegrown artist simple whoa what's been the response there from fans and friends about his death well there has got to be an enormous interest because it's the tap story on our our website which shows that his influence in I know this and that specialist and him in particular that I know the name it's a big loss and it's also whenever anyone this young dies so unexpectedly Of course you want to know was there anything else involved what happened and I think this story we has says that no one thinks for the moment that anyone else. You know there's there's no foul play as I said suspected and people are really just paying homage to him. In When I looked at some social media before we got out but this is a big story because his music did mean a lot to a lot of people in the city who follow rep music that's exactly what I was going to test you about you know about Jews world's lyrics now I don't want it I don't want to pretend to know I know about the lyrics I know it was popular but I thought you know what should I know well Lisa dreams. I still see oh shadows in my room can't say back the love that I gave to you it's to the point where I love and I hate you and I cannot change you so I must replace you he says said than done I thought you were the one listening to my heart instead of my head you found another one but I'm the better one I won't let you forget me I still see your shadows in my room. Well I read that off a screen that because I'm not from Chicago like you said it is music inside out so I've got in this case you haven't but I bet after today not just you and I. Listening will be checking G.'s world right I mean again something it's a tragedy but I wanted to make sure I brought the story to you because I know you're interested in music and you have a what everything and and I thank you for that embarrassing me that I don't know no I suppose embarrassing myself and actually you know we can share in that investment anyway. People in Chicago do that old tradition that I saw I've seen in the few American movies they take his sweet give Bear and then they pull one out on the floor from the Bhosle for the deli departed to the do they do that have you seen I've never seen them that I'm not mad to say I've been in every bar I haven't been in every joint in the city I've never heard it discussed and what movie is that it out is a few quite a few I remember boys knew the city would not seem to remember and which one is on a gang member that today I was on a gang members in that I'm not a student Oh I wasn't trying to thank you so I am not eligible for this or not I didn't realize that was Sheldon thank you will come on and shout shout It's almost everybody in a moment but very quickly you'll cause this week as you do with one of the concerned is the Democratic presidential race right so Mike Bloomberg is the billionaire former mayor of New York and he is Jewish so the former marriage Chicago Rahm Emanuel also Jewish so I saw Rahm gave a speech before a journalist club called the grid iron clad about a member of it last night and he used the occasion to take some swipes at Bloomberg so he is Rahm is not without ambition himself though he decided not to run for a 3rd term as mayor and. There is a thought that Bloomberg is trying to buy the election because he just came in 2 weeks ago he's been spending millions are ready. As he as who has his own bed it's where Gore had this great my as he's riffing and Bloomberg and this is what I talk about a bit in the column which is really about this funny speech it's insane says Rahm It's crazy to think that America is looking for a short Jewish president really because if they were I'd be running so you know with this humor there is also the fact that America has never elected a president though Bernie Sanders is running now and Rahm had you know I think it was a very good kind of stickit poke in your eye line to Bloomberg who he gave some other pokes to along with some other company that lines about this state of the race Oh here's a good one so yesterday and we talked about Pearl Harbor Day last night so Rahm goes to starts with zinger and he says you know I'm so glad to be here on December 7th you know it's the day of infamy that will live forever or as President Trump would say it it's the day Ukraine bombed Pearl Harbor. Well that Laughing Yeah I know I said I did I get it the only thing I'm sensitive to the fact that nevertheless Pearl Harbor is a day. The memorial somewhat solemn in the United States it is and we did pay tribute and sometimes and comedy you're allowed a little license this one but you know in the comedy club with you I probably lost a bomb of the b.b.c. And I think anger on that might not go down too well to love joke about well if it Ok so I apologize no no no no no no no let me give you another quip this one it's a little edgy So buckle up so what Rahm said about vice president Mike Pence in grade school he insisted the alphabet had $21.00 letters there was no l g b c Q Ok. Ok I got it. That was less edgy no way but yes so your column is one to be residents of the today thank you very much and by the way don't let the fact that I have to be b.b.c. Stopped restrain you from being Lynn Sweet of the Chicago Sun Times. Well good as always my pleasure thanks so much Lynn Sweet they're the Chicago Sun Times So you've already met my guest this morning because he clarified a custom to me only gang members take a swig of their very poor one for their dead homey as it were I didn't know that in the movie Sheldon Thomas welcomes up all night Yes Good morning sir yeah it's really sir come on. Even when you were a young rapper the streets a current member you ever called me. Even back in those but I was I wasn't too not a nicer person I was too rough there you were quite a decent rapper. Very very very political as well as other things so you would interfere with his gangster knifing even though Island try to get me to make correct code in them days it was cool gunmen leverages and when I was signed to Island I don't record yeah they were they wanted me to kind of go down the road because obviously they knew that I was a former gang member so therefore all why don't you talk about your show in the in the insane and at the time. My mum and dad. I can explain it they they they they didn't know too much of what I was doing. Part of it was they were in denial I'm going to talk about that later the denial of West Indian parents of what they could get up to that's one part of it and the other part of it. It was I didn't think it was good for a young black man who's just got his 1st recording deal to start talking about shooting people or what he was doing in the way that the Jamaican is were doing at the time you know. So I wanted to be more of an inspiration but I think of a bit too far ahead of my time because in them days. Not many black record you know it's we're talking politics politics I was even before Chuck d. So people need to understand how farm came back before even Chuck d. And Kara Swan So before Chuck d. In care is one even. On wax I was already in political stuff way before they were even heard of so and I know that's true because I interviewed you once or twice a year yes there were you broke me actually I would say you brought me because not many people was interested remember again because it was a particular kind of politics it would take a current complaint to call a kind of report to want to go down that road and I just think that at that time we didn't have many black reporters and you was the 1st person that she said go out let me hear what the spread is talking about and so forth so how did a former gang member like yourself turn his life around and become if you like the expert on gangs in trying to get people out civic gangs that's where you are now you've got an organization it's cool gangs line isn't yes what is that organization do an ad you get from where you were once upon a time to where you are today. Well for many people a lot of people believe gangs started now when people start talking about gangs as if it's just come around now street gangs have been there for a 100 years people need to know that but in that time period it was in particular cumin is poor white communities obviously so it took in Manchester Berman I'm Liverpool Sheffield not Sheffield and Glasgow Glasgow and Sheffield had the highest amount of gang related violence and at one point. Is a Sheffield or Glasgow we live in 20 isn't going up to the fir is we're actually the gangster capital of the world it wasn't Chicago because a lot of people got it impression that Al Capone. You know and the gangs of Chicago and New York we've Lucky Luciano was the gang capital of the world it wasn't the gang capital of the world was in England but because America's got such big media and such Hollywood was just beginning it kind of made John Dillon job all of these people seem so big but actually the gang capital of the world Ju in that time period was Glasgow in Sheffield. And I think people need to understand that street gangs have been in existence for well over 100 years in this kind what do you define as gangs because I speak to a lot of the younger people today and they say gangs we're just a group of friends and yeah but everybody says that I mean you're going to stand about young people they're not honest with themselves. And young people tend to say fings because it's the in thing so for a moment you've gotta love a gang member said I we're just family where you're not you're lying you're not a family cars are finally is a biological family not a surrogate family you can get some or get families but anyone who's a family would not tell a child to go and sold drugs so if you are family in your telling a child or your grooming a child then you are gang it's as simple as that the problem with many of the community is because the leaders in particular acumen is whether it be poor white communities whether it be the black community or the Asian community are. Are just as culpable of reinforcing what young people are saying by not correcting them and I think what happens is when you have leaders in these communities who are not correct in young people who are gang members then you obviously you you have this kind of thing going around where we're not a gang where we're family well if you are families don't tow people to commit crimes so a true friendly or true nuclear family would not tell a child or a person not to go to school for 2 weeks and be in a trap house so for me my definition of a gang is more than 2 people who have organized a criminal activity that is moving from a to b. And if you're doing that with more than 2 people and you're consistently doing that over a period of time then I call you a street gang now there's a big difference between street gangs and organized criminals now in the seventy's and eighty's. You had only a very few and full of small street gangs who were aligned with organized crime let me explain to when I say organized crime organized criminals were not black kids they were not Asians they were mainly white middle aged men from Glasgow newcomer so Liverpool Manchester and London and obviously Birmingham and these guys made links with cartels So the 1st link they made was with the Colombian cartel and if anybody knows about problem Escobar now a problem Escobar want to get his drugs empire not just in South America or North America Canada or the Caribbean he wanted to branch into Europe in order to do that he had to form alliances with crime families in the u. K. Now. They did crime families in the u.k. As I said were middle aged white men the creature ins for example that was another play to create generation before here this is after was the great twins there were not a organized criminal out for a lot of people I know a lot of people don't. Know what I'm saying basically people have been suckered into the craze being this organized crime they were they were just a bunch of street Fugs because the Krays never bought drugs into the country but they were trying to strike up alliances where they know where the Mafia where my feeling with them they realized they were too small so the mafia didn't forge a link with them and what people fell into Understand the only criminal gang that we that was organized to the level I'm talking in that time period of the fifty's and sixty's was do Richard since the Richardsons were way ahead of the craze to craze were just a small outfit from East London who would extort people in different shops in different areas in Milan the order they were very small Yes and they were just a little bit above street gangs today and another then another thing people need to understand the reason why the Krays are seen in such light now is because they spent most of the time taking pictures with celebrities that's what street gangs do today but people a friend in to understand is that the craze murdered one person 2 to Jack McVitie and. So to source I stand correct to write the crime from as I'm talking about I've murdered well over 50 people and so you can't compare them to the crime families I'm talking about the atoms the Noonan's the you know what were these guys of murdered like 5 times or 20 times there are these guys and what people need to understand only reason. We ever talk about the craze is if you look at them in picture way or form they took pictures with Muhammad Ali They took pictures with the woman that used to being in East Enders The average wins a barber wins a date they love taking pictures of themselves they love making people believe that they were bigger than what they were they were just small fry let's not lose sight of that this is a phone and this is a phone and if you like to join in the phone and I'm particularly interested in what we can bring in the history but I'm particularly interested in what's going on on the streets today and I know Sheldon you can tell us a lot about there are a number to call if you were to speak to Sheldon Thomas from gangs and directly is 080-085-9096 extension 93 consecutive him 1850