This is the Westminster hour. The main use tonight it's emerged that the man who was shot dead by armed police in south London after attacking passers by had been convicted of a terrorism offense and was freed from prison just days ago the suspect who had a fake bomb strapped to his body has been named a suit. The Irish prime minister earlier Varadkar has urged Britain and the e.u. To avoid setting rigid red lines in negotiations about their future relationship 11 British nationals evacuated from the Chinese city at the center of the corona virus outbreak have arrived back in the u.k. Coming up we get reaction to tonight's terror attack and discuss the government's response with our panelists they are conservatively Rolly labor from Ventura Louise Hague and the 2 u.c. General secretary Frances O'Grady after his conciliatory speech to the nation on bricks a day now the prime minister is preparing to talk tough as he sets out his vision for a post e.u. Future brave new world or a leap into the unknown we'll hear the panel's thoughts on that to the Sun's political editor Tom Newton Dunn is here to guide us through both of these big stories and the general election brought in a new cohort of Tory M.P.'s with seats in the north of England so how do they influence policy making up Westminster election but just stumping majorities in the eighty's you still didn't win in places like. Maybe she's a totally different party more on all of the after the news reference the saving by Alan Smith it's emerged that a man who stabbed to passers by on a busy high street in south London this afternoon had been jailed for terrorism offenses and was freed from prison in the last fortnight Sudesh among you who was 20 was shot dead by armed police following the incident in Stratham one of those injured is in a life threatening condition in hospital detectives are treating what happened as Islamist related terrorism 1st report comes from our correspondent. That was this in the book. It was around 2 pm this afternoon that counterterrorism police shot dead a man who they already had under surveillance within minutes videos the scene recorded by members of the public flooded social media several of them verified by the b.b.c. Show a man lying on the ground at least 3 police officers can be seen pointing guns towards the suspect was wearing what the police now say was a vast truck with a hoax explosive device a witness here described what happened I see people panicking and screaming and I see young guy walking in pathway and reading some stuff and behind him a plain clothes officer with a gun chasing him for a few yards and then they were I had to stop and then I have 3 bang tonight the home secretary Patel gave her reaction to the events all our thoughts are with the victims of this appalling attack and also with their families and loved one and also it's just right that we pay tribute to the bravery of the police who were able to act 1st swiftly and also prevent any other further acts of violence and to protect the public the local m.p. Bell Ribiera said it had been a scary day in stress but the community was resilient who would not be cowed by terrorists pretty Patel's said the government would set out further measures to morrow in addition to plans already announced to end the automatic release of terrorism offenders his own political correspondent Chris makes a suit was released as is conventional halfway through his sentence of around 3 years white all sources told me that despite there being concerns about him I'm to the risk he posed to the public there was no legal mechanism opens the authorities to keep him behind bars he was instead placed under surveillance. Hence the speed of the police response when a man started stabbing people the circumstances surrounding the perpetrator of today's attack bear a striking resemblance to a man car on the terrorist who killed 2 people and injured 3 others at London Bridge in November like a man can and also been released halfway through a sentence for terrorism offenses the prime minister said the government would set out tomorrow plans for what he called fundamental changes to the system for dealing with those convicted of terrorism offenses. The foreign secretary Dominic Robb has warned that the u.k. Won't agree to follow e.u. Rules or accept judgments from the European Court of Justice Britain and the e.u. Will give details tomorrow of what they want from the trade talks with Boris Johnson making clear he's seeking a looser agreement like the one Canada has with the e.u. Our political correspondent Tom Barton reports negotiations haven't even begun but already there's a war of words between the British government and e.u. Leaders the bone of contention how closely British rules over issues like workers' rights and environmental protections should mirror those of the European Union the foreign secretary Dominic Rabb insisted today that the so-called level playing field which would see the 2 sides following a common set of rules wouldn't be up for discussion we would expect to be treated 1st of all in the same way that countries are with the rest of the e.u. So I think it's more question of getting clarity outside so we're not going to be aligning with the rules that's not on the negotiating table it's not even an issue of red lines it is not even in the negotiating room nor said Mr Rob would the u.k. Accept the prospect of the European Court of Justice being allowed to rule on trade disputes but the Irish prime minister live Radko who faces an election contest next weekend warned that if the 2 sides were inflexible at the outset he would be difficult to reach a deal let's not repeat some of the errors are made in the past 2 and a half years that's not set such rigid red lines that it makes it hard to come to an agreement and that's toned down the kind of nationalistic rhetoric the government is seeking a loose arrangement similar to that between Canada and the e.u. But Mr Rudd has said that because Britain is far closer and could be more of a direct competitor it's regulations would need to be more closely aligned than they are with Canada that according to the shadow chancellor John McDonnell would be a good thing all the European Union are asking for is actually. We all agree upon which there are protections of course any country can go above those protections but we need a baseline of protection on the one hand he's saying there will be on the other hand there is sort of saber rattling saying that won't happen in the negotiations in the weeks before the negotiations formally begin we can expect more tough talk from both sides. The latest British nationals to be evacuees from Wu Han The Chinese city at the center of the corona virus outbreak and making their way to a specialist medical facility almost beside the group of 11 flew back to the u.k. Via France this evening and will spend the next fortnight in isolation 83 other British people are in quarantine at Park Hospital on the well as concerns grow about the financial impact of the current virus in China its government will pump 130000000000 pounds into the economy tomorrow to boost confidence more than 300 people are now known to have died from the infection our correspondent in Beijing John Sutter 3 ports on the mounting scale of the outbreak. Mariam as a man sobs in a hospital and he's asked who's died my father comes the reply. She. Just outside 8 body bags accounted these unverified social media videos appear to show a city and a health system overwhelmed knowing she shoe visiting woo Han from the Us says her sick relatives can't even get into hospital the hospital staff just told them that they cannot perform the tests I think it's a good look after the show but I think the official statistics are a lot more deflated compared to what the real reality actually is China's trying to show the world it's coping building a brand new hospital in will hand in just 10 days but it's now clear that in the early stages chances were missed whistleblowers censored and information withheld the massive stimulus package just announced is a sign that this is not just a human catastrophe but an economic one too. 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He was delighted I could not be more thrilled I mean I was it is the personal delight in seeing a story that was very close to me and my family to some degree then you know developed and enlarged and become this thing but for me the big thing for all of us the massive thing has been the audiences have gone in large numbers Renee Zellweger won in the leading actress category for Judi while working Phoenix won Best Actor for his portrayal of the Joker all the shortlisted actors had been whites and he called for efforts to tackle systemic racism when he picked up the award saying the Bafta sent a clear message to people of color that they weren't welcome thanks very much and welcome to the Westminster hour with me Carolyn Quinn a my guests they are with me Leigh Rowley the conservative m.p. For Northeast Darbyshire Utica alum power the so-called red wall before that phrase was even invented didn't you because you and you'll see it from Labor at the 2017 election we'll be hearing more about the impact of the new northern Tory M.P.'s later in the program please constituency in fact is next door to Sheffield Healey and the m.p. There since 2015 is Labour's Louise Hague she is Shadow policing minister and a former special comes to bowl and also running Lisa numpties campaign for the Labor leadership for will touch on obviously later on fronts is a great he is here as well the general secretary of the 2 you see I'm Tom Newton Don political editor of The Sun is him now I'd like to take a look 1st of all at what's been unfolding in South London I mean it's happening minute by minute it seems an instant described as terrorist related by the police number of people stopped. Life threatening condition now and now we hear that the attacker who was shot dead by police had been released from prison just a week ago having served time for a terrorist offense told all very reminiscent of course of what happened with that London Bridge attack in November Boris Johnson has been. Sending out words on this saying that there will be further plans for changes to legislation what do you know about the changes coming and will we know very little as yet what the promise is going to say and do tomorrow I understand because the promise himself may well not decided I think there were a lot of late night or being burnt in Number 10 tonight and I'm office in the image a trying to work out how to solve this problem let's remember this is the 2nd time in 2 or 3 months that a convicted terrorist released from prison early has gone on to offend very seriously the 1st I was hearing under the bridge This is the 2nd time and as I said also number 10 being quite honest about this tonight all the measures the prime minister announced after the London Bridge attack on which we saw introduced upon in a bill in a couple of weeks new kernel just as bill that would clamp down on an offense committed by someone who has been current just recent prison so for examining early release of those serious Terra fences none of those would have stopped the offense today the offender was in prison only for a 3 year term because he was the violence of an advantage events and therefore he would still be under the terms of the new clampdown allowed on release so I strongly suspect the gum to going to want to increase the acts they've already taken only last 2 or 3 weeks and go further still maybe fresh legislation in terms of ending Altera fences altogether maybe even something going down the route of going back to reintroducing controllers remember those there was an enormous debate in the coalition is around 201020111 some very stringent. Powers the police on m I 5 had on controlling terror suspects after the release from prison those who watered down turning to keep him which were certainly a less stringent form of control you weren't housebound you're allowed to live we want a country that's a thing I suspect that debate will now ignite afresh all over again well Lee Rowley the prime minister has said following the awful events of fishmongers Hall in December we've moved quickly to introduce a package of measures to strengthen every element of our response to terrorism including longer prison sentences a more money for the police as Tom said the Counter-Terrorism Bill is due to be brought before parliament by mid March automatic early release scrapped minimum jail term of 14 years for serious crimes to be introduced the prime minister says tomorrow we will announce further plans for fundamental changes to the system for dealing with those convicted of terrorism offenses and Tom's said rightly that probably they're still in the process of deciding that but what do you think could be coming down the line do you think that there is a way of toughening up that Counter-Terrorism Bill even further. I'm not sure I can properly answer I think the events are moving too quickly it's very early days and will be very cautious how we approach this and we've got to wait to see where all the facts are what's coming out of the moment I'm not sure I can properly on Star question obviously the prime minister following the terrible violence late last year came forward a series of proposals which. Are certainly I but I welcome the many people did that's about to go through Parliament if there is the opportunity to add to that if there's a necessity to add to that I think that is something which should certainly be considered and they will go through the appropriate forms of debate Louise with your policing knowledge what do you make of the events that have happened now the unfolding of the the fact that Boris Johnson was criticized initially with for his response to the London Bridge attack which came during the German election campaign but it looks tonight as if he may be have say Well look I highlighted a. Real problem was horrifying how similar the 2 cases are isn't it that this offend just like Osman Khan and London Bridge had been released on automatic release with no right for the parole board to have a say and say actually this individual is dangerous that shouldn't be coming out of prison and clearly in this instance I imagine the pro board would have made that recommendation had they been able to do so so I think the response is why but I think what most people who have knowledge and experience around the criminal justice system would say is that sentencing cannot be the only response that cannot be the only and some what we really need to look at is what is happening inside prison and would have keeping this individual in prison for an extra 18 months which is what we would been talking about Had he not been subject to automatic early release would he have come up prison any less radicalised my my initial instinct and certainly my experience of the prison system and those of individuals like this that go through the criminal justice is the system is they would probably have come out even more dangerous than when he went and we're told that he was on the active police surveillance at the time of the attack do you think that that was as a response to what happened on London Bridge Well I imagine that that would have been because of the personal circumstances and unique context of this individual My understanding is that he was under maximum police surveillance which doesn't happen unless they are x. He is we would consider an extremely dangerous person that presumably was signed off by the Home Office or at least a very senior police officer in the metropolitan police so both the both the place and security services will have questions to answer about the steps that they took . Monitor this individual and Francis and Louise as well do you think that Labor now should support wholeheartedly any tightening up of counter terrorism legislation and support this bill when it does come before parliament what do you think for those always a danger of making up policy on the who. In fact some people My asked why wasn't this situation anticipated last time. Policy was drawn up but I think it's worth acknowledging what I think was an incredible response from the emergency and security services and I think it's also worth saying that if we are going to bang people up in prison for longer than we're going to have to deal with the fact that our prisons are overcrowded our prison officers have been caught and their prison officers suffered a wreck called number of violent assaults last year including one inspired by the lead Rigby attack so you know there's a bigger picture we've got the part privatized probation service we've got prisons under pressure we've got the local police station that being closed down yards from where this happened so you know I think we need to start thinking a bit bigger than just this immediate question of legislation really really I mean prison overcrowding and how do you how was the number of prisoners that if the government wants to increase sentencing that is a perennial problem isn't it the government or the interim some intent to increase the number of prison places and the next time to build them or put an excess on doesn't it absolutely does and you know we have to wait sure that what we're taking a robust but proportionate steps to try and address these and every everything else which is happening in the criminal justice system in crew can assist them as a whole but probably this is a debate probably for tomorrow when we have a little bit more than than today and Louise just back to you on the idea of a strengthening of this counterterrorism build depending on what number turn work on what the prime minister says tomorrow do you think that Labor should wholeheartedly support it well you know we've got to think that while it's Matic early release was introduced in the 1st place and it was for precisely the reason you've just identified was that our prisons were full and they were full of people that had been says a sentence an indeterminant public. Action sentences. Now that isn't the case anymore and I do believe it's right that the parole board should have a proper say in whether an individual is released and not so the should so I fully support the idea of reversing complete automatic early release that Francis is absolutely right that this has to be alongside the wi