Transcripts for BBC Radio 4 FM BBC Radio 4 FM 20191114 22000

Transcripts for BBC Radio 4 FM BBC Radio 4 FM 20191114 220000

The shadow Helsa tree Jonathan Ashworth said it was an appalling situation so many patients will be languishing on follies waiting longer and longer and longer for treatment and. Overcrowded hospitals I mean this comes after a decade of cuts in our health services a decade of cutting over $50000.00 that we really do have an n.h.s. In crisis the n.h.s. Needs Labour's extra investment several people have been rescued from stranded cars in Oxfordshire during widespread flooding caused by heavy rain more than 120 flood warnings are in place across England the Met Office says up to 2 inches could fall in some parts of England Wales the east and west woodlands have also been badly affected Sean Lloyd reports from the station. Was the open morning shouted to a passing car plowing through the floodwater in the village of dice were it's one of a number of rural communities in Leicestershire to have been affected by flooding in nearby long water and the caretaker of the local primary school was on standby to open up in case people needed to seek refuge but as the rain stopped water levels quickly fell across the Midlands around a 100 schools closed today often because nearby roads were impassable the heavy rain led to disruption for some train passengers with delays and cancellations into New Street station in Birmingham and that be numerous road closures with police warning drivers to take care due to surface water Italy has declared a state of emergency in Venice after the city was engulfed by levels of tidal flooding not seen for 50 years the historic Basilica has been flooded and homes of lost electricity more than 80 percent of the city was under water when tides were at their highest the Italian prime minister Giuseppe going to describe the flooding as a blow to the heart of our country and promised the government would act quickly to provide front funds and resources. Investigators examining the downing of the Malaysia Airlines flight m.h. 17 over Ukraine say say intercepted phone calls indicate close links between top Russian officials and the separatist rebels accused of shooting the aircraft down 298 people died when the jet was attacked with a missile in July 2014 Here's our Europe Correspondent Damian Grammaticus. Vladislav Surkov for many years the deputy head of Mr Putin's presidential administration has heard telling one of the separatist leaders who the Dutch team is no prosecuting that military reinforcements were being sent from Russia to help forces fighting against Ukraine's army in another call a separatist fighter says Russia's defense ministers. Was sending men to help take command of units on the ground the Dutch investigators say they are appealing for witnesses who can give information about these chains of command and the Russian missile system that was used to shoot down m.h. 72 students have been killed in the u.s. And 3 others injured after a 16 year old opened fire at a secondary school in California the shooting happened as people were arriving at the school north of Los Angeles teenage suspect who was marking his 16th birthday has been arrested from Los Angeles Regan Morris reports l.a. Officials say school surveillance video clearly shows a 16 year old boy pulling a handgun from his backpack and shooting 5 other teenagers at Saga's high school the boy then allegedly shot himself in the head Authorities say the teenage suspect ran out of ammunition and used his last bullet on himself Los Angeles sheriff's captain can't wait an hour says that today is the suspect 16th birthday police say they're interviewing all the children who witnessed the attack outside the school there were terrible and familiar scenes of children marching out with their hands up and parents searching for their kids authorities have not identified the suspect but children at saggers high school have circulated an Instagram post allegedly from the shooter with a cryptic message Saga's have fun at school tomorrow police are questioning 19 people arrested in a series of raids across London while fizzes investigating the trafficking of women from Romania for sex officers also took $29.00 women aged between $20.42 a place of safety similar tiniest raids were carried out in Romania where one man was detained. Zimbabwe's government has unveiled a budget of $4000000000.00 for next year pledging to endorse territory measures that have affected the poorest communities despite the country facing its worst economic crisis in a decade the government has an optimistic outlook with predictions that the economy will grow by 3 percent next year. In football England have qualified for Euro 2025 to thrashing Montenegro 7 nil at Wembley hurricanes scored a 1st half hat trick in what was England's 1000th fixture. Jim thank you you're listening to the world tonight with. Well in a few minutes we'll hear more from that interview with Labor's John McDonnell on his policies promise to give every home and business free ultra fast Internet access but 1st it's now exactly 4 weeks before Election Day on December the 12th and it's been another busy campaigning day the 2 main parties have been talking about the n.h.s. And immigration how political correspondent Karen is on the line for a search for nomination papers for candidates wanting to run for parliament closed at 4 pm today tell us about the surprises yet today was make your mind up time for people who wanted to become M.P.'s the worst some surprises perhaps the biggest was that the bricks at parties Rupert revealed that he wouldn't now be standing in Dudley north so this was a surprise a last minute decision to pull out. Probably a bigger surprise as well because we were expecting Nigel Farage to go there and campaign with him so those plans are presumably all off now the Green Party and the bricks it pass he went be standing in Canterbury which was the center of some controversy earlier in the week when there lip damn candidate or pulled out unilaterally You might remember one of the big upsets in 2017 was when Nick Clegg was unseated by Gerald O'Meara now the former Labor m.p. Who recently Saturn independent isn't going to be standing in Sheffield Hallam even though he was the subject of that big moment in the 27 election night and the other big picture that people might remember from the night of 2017 was a candidate called Lord Bucket Head who stood against a reason may well Boris Johnson will face somebody called Lord Bucket Head who's standing as a candidate for the Monster Raving Loony Party and Mr Johnson is also again to be facing someone called Can't been face Ok right so let's let's move on to. Some of the other things that were happening today they have been pretty serious allegations that Boris Johnson has tried to buy off some in Niger for us is Brecht's it Party tell us about that yes these allegations have come from Niger for art and other members of the BRICs it Party today as the nominations for the candidates were coming to a close and this evening the b.b.c. Has been told by a conservative source that the Conservative Party in Peterborough had offered bricks at parties parliamentary candidate an unpaid paste in education in an attempt to persuade him to stand down so that's sort of a sign of the sort of things that Mr Farage is saying has been going on this of course comes just a few days after Mr Farage announced that he was standing down candidates in conservative held seats but was going to fight in in up a seat tonight he's ramped up his criticism of the Conservative Party because basically you're suggesting that some senior figures in the BRICs it Party were offered a peerage is in return for standing down candidates it's been a very funny day we've had never before I think in the history of British politics have people who want to stand for election one of our rights as free citizens been intimidated out of standing but our cabinet has there been subjected to thousands of phone calls and emails and threats all over the country I think we're about to 85 some of dropped away most of hell very far but also in juice points at all levels I mean Number 10 Downing Street ringing arc outlets offering people jobs it is quite astonishing So it's Dale of intimidation and I think that it will corruption at the same time now because surveys have party say that neither the party nor its officials have offered bricks at Party candidates jobs or peerage is and they say they do not do electoral. Packed John Curran joining us live thanks very much well let's stay with the election and what is going to happen to Labor's vote in the north of England that's a key question in this election the Conservatives are hoping to win a majority partly by nabbing season Labor's traditional Northern heartland many voters there are keen breaks its supporters so the idea is that they will be persuaded to put their cross in the blue corner because of the conservative strongly pro stance famously they're targeting the so-called Workington man but can Workington man really be won over so easily or will a traditional Northern Labor voter be put off by a policy which is now led by the Southern eat an educated Boris Johnson a one definition of Workington man is that he is not only northern but also a rugby league fan the world went to the town of Featherstone in Yorkshire home of the Featherstone Rove his rugby league team that Albert was an academic and. They really don't care about the weather on a freezing cold evening with a bitter wind doing its best to make conditions even tougher the further strain Rovers rugby league team were having their 1st practice of the new season the god there that was. What I'm watching here is really the last remnants of an old tradition once upon a time the higher levels of rugby league were full of small town clubs many of them from small mining towns like Featherston but the coal mines have gone the services were gloves these days are mostly for much larger towns and cities and the coaches Steve Gillis be telling me about another fundamental shift away from the political beliefs which he says he wants took for granted in the world of rugby league just another element of always been a labor mum I think most will believe plagal been Labor because a lot of them still work to pay you know I think it's changing now I think this is within the belief eternity. Data say some vote Conservative is a completely different world. Although I did get a glimpse of that completely different world as the team came off the pitch carefully bashing the mud from their boots. But most of these players didn't really want to talk about politics or the election but every single one of those who did spoke about the Labor Party as something in the past my neighbors brought their. Rovers back row when I turned 18. Just because that's what's people turn to toe around these parts and you know a moment out and stuff but then the more of what's into it I don't have a carbon as a as a leader it could be a bit weak so of conservative as I go down with your family. So a different effect for our country in a somewhat strong My name's Davis jump play in the 2nd or in the middle and moment on the ground out and you know all relatives have always voted Labor was always understood as you know the work amongst power I sat now. I'm looking at Mark conservative to be honest you know especially with the Bracks a fiasco that's going on just want it finished I think it's voices like that which of convince conservatives that rugby league towns such as Featherston are ripe for the taking There are of course other options in this constituency known as Hemsworth there are the liberal Democrats but they won just 2 percent of the vote to the last election Meanwhile the breaks it Party is expected to stand there for running a Ukip now a rival came in just over 5 percent and if politics here is more polarized between Labor and conservatives a bit of recent history might help explain why. In Featherstone's main cafe the precinct I found. Customers showing each other footage from rugby matches on their phones the club really is a central part of this town and its identity but so too is the town's participation in the 198485 miners' strike as another cost to me here Maureen was keen to tell me I don't remember the static Well the family is. Cookin sharing between us when to think of conservatives they don't think of Maggie Thatcher now she just deal in the mind the mine is everything. Could you be tempted to vote Conservative in the future never. Never can't stand by Johnson's staff let it just come over as a tough it's that image of the toff wage some insist is going to be a problem for the conservatives and their project to win over the rugby league fraternity because rugby league is the only sport which has its very existence rooted in class division created at the tail end of the 19th century it was a breakaway movement by the less wealthy players they had struggled to take part in rugby union because players were not paid gentleman amateur was the union ideal and those origins mean that rugby league is still an unlikely sport for conservatives according to Tony Collins author of the book rugby's great split hey you have a sports that was born in rebellion and prides itself on its democratic egalitarian and working class roots in contrast to a conservative party which of than for a considerable period of time is now actually dominated by members of if not the aristocracy certainly the highest levels of British society those educated 18 and the knowledge in Ruby clubs that form the ruby lake broke away precisely in rebellion against those type of people. There is another traditional pastime very much alive in Featherston the town still has an old fashion model railway shop with Hornby trains running up and down. The shop is a Mini and Korean shelves packed with locomotives carriages and odd bits of track in various shapes and sizes all treated with serious reverence by local model train enthusiastic Robert cine he gave me a potted history of his involvement with this hobby but also his paw. Takes me Dad introduced me to a model of a white but when I was 6 years old and then I went on to electric train locomotives and then girls came along and not helped it all are quite you know going to fault a girl and model why I sold the girls one you know so I got older and I got and I've got my Vade I've gone back to I've been a model that white so you can't see the motorway tradition but I gather your politics have changed I've always voted Labor but I voted Leyva never after Enda and by always trying to make a day away with. So you would you vote Conservative then I think I would I mean exactly a policy 8 ball race I don't think it really go down too well in a lot of their working men's club surrounding it can't do what 10 do you think Conservative Party under Boris Johnson could win a seat like this no no no chance I mean people vote for a Ted if it got late but signed stick on it no I don't think around here. That report was from other worlds Knights Paul Moss Well as you may have heard in the news bulletin John McDonnell the shadow chancellor has unveiled Labour's new plans regarding broadband for the public in an interview with the B.B.C.'s political editor Laura Coons Burge Mr McDonald was asked for the details of the policy if there was a Labor government free broadband to the country apart from some parts of London I'm someone major cities everywhere I go there saying I will either not got broadband at the speeds that we need is holding our economy back the government's come forward with a 5000000000 pound investment but actually it's nowhere near enough so we're saying it's going to cost about $20000000000.00 we'll put the extra $15000000000.00 in it will start with a more difficult to reach areas 1st and then work through but with the way that we'll do it is if we're putting that scale of public money in taxpayers' money and we want to ensure actually we own as well and that means bringing parts of Bt into public ownership Openreach in particular another big rationalization over the big price tag Yup and what will do in the normal way is will 1st of all we'll issue bonds for shares or what we're doing is we're introducing a new tax we've already discussed it publicly which is all multinational so politically those internet multinationals the the warms up again their incomes from the Internet the apples the Googles and the Amazons of this world and in that way will pay for the day today cos. Don Madonna speaking to our political editor Laura Koons Burgo Joining us now is Andrew Ferguson editor of think broadband an independent broadband news and information site Good evening what do you make all of these plans from labor. Aides say it's something of a surprise it's not totally totally surprising but actually to announce it so clearly it's the biggest surprise one would expect is something a little bit souls more halfway house they seem to be going both feet in on this and so essentially nationalizing bts Openreach which owns the bulk of the full fiber network What about the cost and how they going to raise the money. That the 20000000000 that probably is around right it's like old infrastructure projects it's very difficult to predict because there's some houses it might cost on the 20300 pound there's others it may cost 10015000 pounds a day so it's like working that all out and getting it to the nearest pound is very difficult but $20000000000.00 is about right that the cost for maintenance per year once it's all done that looks a little bit like yeah 10 lb less than 10 pound a house hope a year for maintenance and also there's the big question mark of if you if you nationalize Openreach there are other broadband companies in the United Kingdom that are investing now what will happen to them how do you sell your pool band when other people have access to over a nationalized operator for free well I suppose that does prompt the next question does it exist anywhere else that is there is a model that Labor has in mind I've tried to rack my brains for a few minutes before we've spoken and I come from your heart. That they would say that they've nationalized these but normally what happens if you pay like you pay per month like we used to when we had the g.p.o. Back in the seventy's we used to pay for a phone line rental you had to use to find they provide. And various other conditions but you know used to pay the difference here is it seems we're talking about free so basically you put your hand up like please install they come in and what both you need what about those people who've invested in these private companies what about their pensions people people who have invested over a long period of time in these private companies I think that they think that the big debate a creep shares have not really done very well at all so probably the big pension companies that have got large shareholder instead may actually be looking at government bonds but a little bit more attractive certainly a lot more certain about what's going to happen and sold so if the pond guarantees I'm certain but right of return that bait for their own people expect to make out of holding those bt shares they actually baby excited about doing this and they may be keen to go ahead and do it their question is though other firms like Liberty Globo $65.00 they've had hundreds of millions invested by other groups what's going to happen to that money where they're building competing networks try to reach and Andrew Ferguson editor of think broadband an independent probe on news and information site thanks very much Sean Carr now political correspondent joins us from Westminster So this this pledge by labor is the 5th industry targeted for public ownership but in terms of nationalizing industries how plausible does it sound to you Are they going to be able to affo

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