Transcripts for BBC Newcastle BBC Newcastle 20181127 010000

Transcripts for BBC Newcastle BBC Newcastle 20181127 010000

Triggering Article 50 last year means Britain will leave on the 29th of March but a group of Scottish politicians want to examine if it can be revoked now successfully guided another probe onto the surface of Mars the insight robot will some of the planet's deep interior making it the only planet other than Earth to be studied in that way Elizabeth Barrett is one of the project's engine is we start an initial assessment phase so the 1st thing we'll do is assess the health of our spacecraft and then the health of the instruments that went with us and then look at our landing site we've got the 1st picture down and now we want to look at it in more detail and understand where can we place the instruments on the surface to get the best science return a report claims that police officers have been left to pick up the pieces because of a crisis in mental health services Inspectorate of Constabulary claims forces in England and Wales are being called to thousands of incidents which should be dealt with by dedicated workers ministers say they're increasing mental health spending the British man jailed for life in the United Arab Emirates is on his way home just hours after receiving a pardon the authorities in the U.A.E. Insist Matthew Hedges was working as a spy in a claim he confessed he denied that Dr Christian coats all Rickson is a Middle East expert from Washington S.T. In Texas he knows Matthew I think it's a step in the right direction. Recognition that this had gone too far and. Somebody had to backtrack at some point and recognize that there was a mistake Ukraine's parliament voted to impose martial law to parts of the country in response to Russia's capture of 3 of its vessels and $23.00 crew members if you applied to areas bordering Russia for 30 days James Sherk is from international affairs think tank Chatham House. They are determined to be very bloody minded and defense of their interests as they define them and they really don't care what we think about it but the bigger picture is really that there are factors in play here all very serious apart from the fact that Russia is de facto at war with Ukraine it is waging economic warfare and Margaret Thatcher's been included in the list of scientists nominated to feature on the new 50 pound night the former prime minister who was a chemist before turning to politics was one of more than 174000 suggestions others include Stephen Hawking and Patrick Moore but 11 has the support Newcastle beat Bernie to win the 3rd game in a row they now move up to 13th in the Premier League after holding on to a nervy $21.00 victory at more than May's scored an own goal in the 1st 4 minutes before caring Clark made it to nail sandbags to get Bernie back in the game there just before half time but it wasn't enough the result leaves Bernie 17th in the table one point above the relegation zone Meanwhile. Victor Lindelof is expected to be out for some time after picking up what he describes as a proper injury at the weekend ahead of their Champions League match against young boys meanwhile Bernardo Silva. Haven't travelled with Manchester City Liam elsewhere despite celebrating a 1st ever 3 now Test series win over Sri Lanka England's head coach Trevor Bayliss says there's still question marks over his size openness Keeton Jennings and Rory been schooled one century between them they list says they haven't cemented that positions that could yet take England forward 3 years and finally the 22 year old British born tied driver Alexander old and will race for tour in Formula one next season this is B.B.C. Radio 5 Live on digital B.B.C. Sound Smart speaker. Look at the weather overnight showers will continue in the east but it become dry for the West replay spells cheese steak any focal length to leave a largely. Joy a bright save of the evening will be a mixed picture across the U.K. But heavy showers likely in kinds of 9 degrees Celsius in London. Thanks. To a story. From Britain ended up on a ranch in the Texas Texas. Santa Ana the country precedented access to surface East trend for. Right. Exclusively. On. The U.K. On digital and online well. Donald Trump hasn't gotten involved in the breaks at the bit since July but on Monday afternoon a few words for reporters standing in the shade of a presidential helicopter sad that describing the agreement go shares at Brussels as a great deal for the E.U. President Trump declared the by his reading over the U.K. May not be able to make its own trade deal with the United States and he added rather obviously that would be a very big negative for the. One of the good sad to have said they'll vote against the arrangement said Trump is spot on. And this was the moment that NASA has Mission Control land that their new robot has successfully landed on the surface of Mars touch down confirmed. That a loss of more than 6 months covered more than 300000000 miles and culminated in a nail biting the scent known by the team working on a 6 and a half minutes of terror the insight probing to study the world's deep interior 1st time and make Mars the only planet apart from half that's been examined in this way confirmation of touchstone came through on Q 953 G.M.T. Less volunteered but travelling along with the Mars insight lander are 2 comparatively tiny spacecraft the 30 Pod probes called Cube Sats more intimately known to their friends as well E. And E. And their job was to get the message back to Earth from the insight Lander Jet Propulsion Laboratory engineer and man has been managing one of these craft and joins us now and we're also joined by Ken Cramer from space up close Hello to you both I don't know but I hope lovely to have you with us and congratulations straightaway must be overjoyed I am extremely excited to get think you. Well Will be back here in just a minute but I'm just going to get Kendrick to take to catch everybody up with with where we are with this. Can before we talk about the Cube Sats with with Iran just tell us about the big deal about insite I mean why should we be so excited about it. Well the. First we're excited because it landed successfully and 2nd will be excited it's the A's time will be excited because it's doing something we've never done before on Mars we're going to be looking at the interior of Mars all the previous probes from NASA that were successful have all looked at the surface looking at water looking at our gathered molecules but this is the 1st time we'll be looking at at at the interior and it's going to tell us about the origin and the evolution of not just Mars but also about Earth you know what was Earth like cause that's all been eroded away by by by tectonic forces and Roshan and weathering So that that's what this is all exciting about it's all new science going back to the origin of the of the solar system and the since I actually have a draw on this is that what's going to get a diode into the into MAS is crossed it has 2 main sign in science instruments it does have a hammering drill that's from from Germany and I should mention there's a huge European participation in this from Germany and France and even England yet has a drill that's going to go about 16 feet 5 feet down and it's going to measure the heat flow come Mars and so that will tell us a lot about the surface composition So yes there is if it's a it's a hammering a mole is what it is not so much a drill as a hammering hole but we have what we would curiosity is a drill to sample that's the other NASA Mars rover there now and I'm just one more question for you for the time big from the landing site which is near the Martian equator that's where nearly all the Londres have gone isn't why is that the sort of sweet spot. Well it depends what they're looking for yeah most of them have army of the equator However Phoenix which actually this is based on went to the north polar regions and that was a very exciting mission because it basically landed on top of water ice OK and drilled into that and and really discovered water there at the surface so so yeah most but not all have been at the equator and it depends on the science that you want to do it for this mission for the science we want to be you know closer to the equator well. We saw so many pictures of people high 5 each other today were you in one of those pictures probably not in if there are pictures of Redshirts I was not there the marketing was in a different room just adjacent to the inside crowd we were definitely cheering but I don't think we made any of the pictures. So. The the wonderful thing about well there's so many wonderful things about the Cube says one is though they're really cheap Ron and I know that's one of the reasons why sides are so so excited about. Yes A keeps that's by design are typically thought there's they're much smaller than normal spacecraft so the more the 2 Marco satellites are about the size of a briefcase or a carry on luggage and because it's small it's what we call single string so instead of having multiple redundant systems on board it's kind of there's only one of everything and it's all very tightly packed into this very specific volume and so because it's small it's got a focused mission for Marco we didn't even have a science instrument on it. It is much you can do it for a much lower cost him with a smaller team at a much faster time scale so it is a lower cost kind of mission. It reminds me of one of our satellite phone which were carried in hard brief cases you know the kind of sort of executive style briefcase and you don't know mop and you done for the 910 a big square on Saw a 1000000 miles from a satellite for what is it by the sound of it and now it's actually I mean does unfold the mean antenna that we use to communicate to Earth from the Mars distance did unfold it was a 3 fold sighted antenna and it opened and when it did open Yeah you could kind of it did kind of look like an open briefcase. But instead yeah but like you said incident just talk on your phone we talked from Mars very well and what was the what was the actual sequence of events did you have to wait till the insight probe had landed before you deploy the cube sights. No so the Cube Sats launched on the same rocket is in sight but we were deployed after inside had deployed so we hitched a ride on the same rocket but the 2 Marco satellites had to fly their own way to Mars and that was a 1st for this kind of satellite so even before we got to Mars. Marco was a technology demonstration because this is the 1st time any of this technology this small in this package actually flown in deep space so just by getting to Mars Marco his demonstrated exactly that was our primary technology demonstration is getting to Mars it all and then supporting me in sight communications is kind of icing on the cake but they did that job extremely extremely well to have a voice that thanks to Demarco the 1st picture came by a picture of all the the specs of the art on the lens Yes. Yes the data that was relayed real time did come from Marco there was an orbiter called the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter that also collected the data but that because that orbiter went behind Mars as soon as it collected that data it didn't come down until a couple hours later. So instant communication from Mars thanks to thanks to little Wally and Eve and is it true that they propel themselves on essential the same stuff that you get in a fight extinguishers it is it's a cold gas propulsion system so it's fluid inside is a fire extinguisher expire fire extinguisher fluid and when when we do a maneuver we heat up that liquid so it's exposed as a gas and it's essentially just very small puffs of this that yeah this fire extinguisher gas at that point and it's a very small puff but the satellites are small enough that that's enough to adjust the trajectory and put both spacecraft exactly where they needed to be when they needed to be to relay the insight data. Sort of thing to think about isn't it once you've got away from the clutches of gravity all you need to get to Mars is a fire extinguisher. If your spacecraft is small enough yes. It's fantastic so did anything not work or is everything just just work more than you could have imagined. I mean today during entry descent and landing the 2 spacecraft performed almost flawlessly getting to that point we kind of had hiccups along the way in the space and the team was learning how to fly the spacecraft there was a leak on one of the Marcos spacecraft but we learned how to deal with that and how to manage it so that both of them did perform exactly what we needed them to do when it mattered and that you need a LOT of course correction was something that you had to fly very carefully. It was we had plans to do 5 trajectory correction maneuvers and both spacecraft only ended up needing 4 so it's weird when plans kind of correct as we went but we have an amazing navigation team here at J.P.L. And they kept us on as much they kept us very on track so I know you called it well the any because you know cute names and they're cute things And also we're really flew on puffs of air space or puffs of fluid anyway. Where do they go from here to that they just kind of cruise off into the great blue yonder a little bit so that they don't go into orbit around Mars this was just a fly by but both spacecraft will end up in an elliptical orbit around the sun so they'll they won't Yeah they'll still be in orbit around the sun but they're. They are beyond Mars now. Another going to send anything else back because they're going to be. Interesting do you think you'll get any other messages for the next few days we're going to keep getting data back from the spacecraft there's data that was stored onboard there we're going to send back so we know exactly what happened on the spacecraft itself and get more rich set of data from the Marcos satellites and figure out what their performance was during insight E.T.L. And kind of assess that entire event and really understand what the state of the spacecraft was I mean both of them performed very well but we want to understand exactly what the environment was what the trajectory was what the power levels and all the. Kind of the environment onboard the spacecraft so we'll still be assessing that data and getting it down from the spacecraft over the next couple days and what's the future now that you've you've had this proof of concept what happens now . That's a really good question said Marco it was designed to be a technology demonstration to show that we can fly this technology and that it's a viable kind of architecture to fly future missions so hopefully the future missions will build on the success of Marco and we can see similar missions like this in the future Well thank you so much and our congratulations again it's just just a great great day for you all thank you there's a plan I think Ken says and from him to oh absolutely what a spectacular demonstration market we wouldn't have had those pictures without it or that or said you know about the success that quick. Is that I mean I can't Isn't that something that may happen though on future shots that you know there may be a coupe goes along with Landers whatever they're going to. Well that's yes that's exactly what NASA is looking into we do know that on the S.L.'s a there is a bunch of Cube Sats whenever that launches in a year or 2 will go to the moon so there are plans to send Cube Sats beyond beyond from plan to send Cube Sats beyond the Earth to the moon and NASA is going to look elsewhere so yeah there's obviously because they can be developed a very quickly and at very low cost there's a lot of great science that they can do beyond the technology demonstration and they even did a little bit of science occupation with the atmosphere on this mission and hopefully they'll get that data back. Feels like a new chapter doesn't it in the way that. Explore space oh it really is it really is what we what we need the next mission so we don't have a next to prove Mars mission so that's the the next step is to get a mission approved and then you know put some Cube Sats on it and I should also mention there's a lot of tube sets the launching to the International Space Station you know we just had a big missile launch and we've got a Space X. Dragon launch coming up in about an hour in about a week and a half so we're putting a lot of Cube Sats already in Earth orbit misses a great demonstration of what they can do beyond or the now that you know the technology has been demonstrated they're going to go full bore and see what else these things can do carry out real science and give an example of Cube Sats doing around the space station well they're taking pictures of the earth they're monitoring the atmosphere a lot of Mark technology demonstration experiments. There's one right now they just went up they want to see how long these things will actually last in the Earth's orbit is to see what the radiation in the environment does as they're orbiting the Earth until they until they actually know reenter to the force of gravity so. Yeah a lot of things going off can thanks very much indeed thank you Ken Cramer is from space up close and we heard from unmanned and from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena California as we've heard in the news the British academic who was jailed for life for spying in the United Arab Emirates is always way back home after being pardoned Matthew had just stuck to his 31 years old denies spying for anybody he says he been researching his Ph D. His wife Danielle attacked harder who appealed for clemency and was crushed with the news that he had been sent to prison for life was elated and she said she can't wait to have him back home the pardon was issued by the United Arab Emirates as part of a series of orders more than 700 people on the country's National Day However a spokesman said Mr Hedges was a 100 percent Secret Service or protest makes life very difficult for academics Mark Owen Jones is assistant professor of Middle East studies at Mohamed Bin Khalifa University in Doha I asked Professor Jones whether he thought the release of Matthew had his is the end of the thing the end of the matter I don't think it is I think there's a number of repercussions that this event will have I mean let's not forget that Matthew has been in solitary confinement for a large portion of the last few months into the rest in May The psychological trauma that's going to have I mean we really know that he suffers from depression and panic attacks and prison. So for maps personally going to be personal repercussions that you know he could live with her many years perhaps the rest of his life. So that's on a personal level I think academically speaking it's hugely problematic regardless of the solution or so you know this amicable solution as as it's called and obviously is a good outcome for Matt and his family I mean I think there's obviously going to be a chilling effect on academics who wish to study in the U.A.E. Now don't get me wrong I think most people who go to the way you know there's limitations and what can and cannot be said but I think up till now people doing academic research generally felt comfortable going that to conduct interviews and things like that the problem with Matthew's detention is that there's a certain arbitrary ness to it. Jeremy Hunt For example didn't see the evidence that doesn't seem to be any plausible case against Matthew that has any credibility so even people doing and Oculus research on topics removed from politics might be fearful that they will be repercussions of potential consequences if they ask questions that they do not know to be sensitive and I have several colleagues who are planning to do research in the U.A.E. Who have already expressed that they're fearful about going so I think there are very serious repercussions for the ac

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