>> wake-up call. author d watkins beat the streets of baltimore. he talks gun violence, race relations and the law. philipp, the man on a wire. hollywood has the new movie, but we have the real thing. his mesmerizing story of walking between the twin towers. >> and we begin with the mass shooting at a community college in oregon. there is a lot of new information on the massacre and the gunmen. we're going to get to all of that. but first the innocent lives lost. we have their names now, and we want to share them with you. first, lucero alvarez, trevon taylor anspach, rebecca ann carnes. quinn glen cooper. kim saltmarsh dietz. lucas eibel. jason dale johnson, and lawrence levine and sarena dawn moore. the suspect is 26-year-old chris mercer. now the shaefer ha sheriff refused to officially release his name, but the name has been reported. we have the latest sabrina? >> we're here this evening at the douglas county fairgrounds. you can see the flags flying at half staff for the victims of the shootings. we're learning a lot about the heavily armed 26-year-old shooter. he has been identified as chris harper mercer, and for the first time we're learning about the victims. investigators continue to pour through evidence trying to find clues as to why a gunman would uncliché the violence thursday, that left ten people dead. inside that apartment, the remainder of the shooter's arsenal. >> out of those 13 weapons we currently have in custody six that were recovered at the school. seven were recovered at the shooter's residents. >> in addition to those six legally purchased weapons, the bureau of tobacco and firearms said that the shooter was heavily armed before he was killed in a shootout with police. and as investigators and a community comes to grips with the shooting rampage, across the country in washington, president obama addressed the tragedy again, one day after his angry and emotional comments about gun violence in the u.s. >> as i said last night this will not change until the politics changes and the behavior of elected officials changes. >> mr. obama said that he'll continue to talk about gun control on a regular basis, and in answering his critics, he said he would polite size the issue. back in organize the debate on gun control would have to wait. >> today we must be focused on providing the support and condolences and help this community heal. >> that includes the dead, some were named publicly friday. they read statements from the families of the victims, including the cooper family about their son quinn. >> quinn was funny, sweet, compassionate, and such a wonderful, loving person. he also stood up for people. >> among those killed, a cousin of one oregon lawmaker, u.s. senator jeff americ mercley. >> the police revealed little information about the shooter and refused to name him. >> i will not give him the credit he probably sought before this horrific and cowardly act. >> at the medical center where victims are being treated, doctors pause to reflect on thursday's horrific event. >> what went through everybody's mind to begin with was disbelieve, but after that it was what resources do we have available, what resources do we need to call in and how do we prepare for the patients who arrived at the medical center. >> and the police said they'll never forget the scene that unfolded. >> it was a horrible tragedy. >> it's a very small community here but a very strong one, and they will get through this. you know, she had mentioned she had not heard the names of the victims yet. they were released this afternoon, and we're learning about some of those victims including 20-year-old taylor anspach. it is effecting the entire community, but hitting first responders especially hard. >> jamie, the publisher of the roseberg beacon, he has been the breaking news since the beginning of this shooting. thank you for being with us. what is the latest you can tell us about how and why the shooting occurred? >> well, of course, paul, the how and the why are something that i don't know that we'll fully get to understand. i can tell you the very latest. i just came from the airport, very somber event where they were off loading from two military helicopters. all the bodies of the victims that are being returned from the medical examiner's office and i assume going to the different funeral homes in the area. it was a very grave scene. >> i can only imagine. just the process that begins now at this stage of the investigation. david, do we know anything more about where the shooting took place. maybe what kind of path the shooter took into the school. was he targeting a particular classroom? do we know any kinds of details at this hour? there well, there is speculation, paul. the shooting took place primarily in snyder hall, there was an english class at the time. also some shots occurred outside that build. the community college campus i is--they are individual buildings. it's not like you go into a major building like on some college campuses and there are several classes. so these buildings would contain one or two classes and snyder hall is where the majority would take place. we did hear from eyewitness who is were walking through the campus, the first one was probably right about 10, i would say 10:45, he said he heard three shots. although his find could not process them as shots initially, but he heard a woman scream immediately following that. then shortly after that he was told get out. there is something going on. you got to get out of here. run to the parking lot. as he proceeded towards the parking area with his fiancé, he observed some officers already on the scene. crouched down behind some vehicles. they were returning fire with the shooter. and that's when he just basically loaded up and left the campus, and right after that it was on total lockdown. he was probably one of the last ones to lead. >> so it can you tell us more about the mood around the campus? >> well, the mood tonight, paul, is one of utter shock and dismay. the grief of the family is just beyond measure. i had an occasion to talk to a local physician, who is a friend of mine. and he has one of his nurses who knows three of the deceased. this is a small community. that story is going to be told over and over. this is a community that everyone kind of knows every else. i've lived here for 28 years, and i believe this community will pull together. >> on that close-knit community, do we know if the shooter was a student at the college and had any ties to it at all? >> you know, we have not been able to find anybody who personally knew the shooter, and we've had conflicting reports whether he is he was a student. my guess is that he may not have been. he they reported on his blog site or facebook posting that he was registered as a republican. we did some checking with the voter files. he came to the area in 2013, and he's registered as a member of the independent party. now that's not to be confused with unaffiliated voters who say they choose not to be affiliated. he chose to be registered as an member of the independent party, which is a progressive socialist party, and you can check their leadership to vet that issue. >> david education, thank you for all the details. still so many questions left unanswered. >> you know, paul f i may, there is one other thing, if we have time. >> please. >> we had a call from one of the members of the jewish community, and she pointed out that the faculty member who was killed, one of the nine victims, is a member of the jewish community, and she felt that was pretty telling in the fact that he was then targeting not just christians but those of the jewish faith, and whether that was the reason for that classroom, nobody knows. >> again, just so many questions about the motives. thank you. >> house democratic leader nancy pelosi calling for the creation of a special committee on gun violence. she said it's aim should be to confront the crisis of gun violence in america. in a letter house speaker john boehner she asked for common sense legislation to address the issue and she's afternooning congress to pass the kane thompson bill a bipartisan measure to beef you have background checks for gun buyers. we'll have more on the oregon campus shooting coming up in the next half hour, and then a website, a haven for anonymous posts and they're often disturbing and violent. now to the latest on the war in syria. russian planes launched a third straight day of airstrikes and president obama criticized russia's strategy, calling it a recipe for disaster. mike viqueira reports. >> good even, paul. in his first comments since his dramatic face off with vladimir putin earlier in the week at the united nations, president obama is predicting a bad end for russia's move in iroquois. >> the bomb fell on rebels in syria and vladimir putin ignoring his protests, president obama is staying the course and predicting disaster for russia. >> an attempt by russia and iran to prop up assad and try to pacify the potalation is just going to get them stuck in a quagmire. and it won't work. >> friday mr. obama said that putin is acting out of weakness, forced to intervene in syria only to save the crumbling regime of russia's long-time ally bashar al-assad. >> reject russia's theory that everybody opposed to assad is a terrorist. >> mr. obama rejected critics who accuse him of leading a leadership vacuum in syria for putin to exploit. >> i didn't see the 60-nation coalition that we have start lining up behind him. iran and assad makeup mr. putin's coalition at the moment. the rest of the world makes up ours. >> the president conceded his program to train and equip the moderate syrian opposition had not worked, but he vowed to continue to seek out syria to pick up the pieces when and if assad is forced out, and dismissed calls for an u.s.-military ex-canalation in syria. >> and we will find ourselves either doing just a little bit and not making a difference and losing credibility that way or drawing--finding ourselves drawn in deeper and deeper into a situation that we can't sustain. >> and paul, talks continue about how to insure that russian and american coalition warplanes don't end up shooting at each other over syria, but despite it all, president obama is open to speaking with russia concerning a post-war deal that does not involve bashar al-assad. >> washington bureau chief interviewed secretary of state kerr kerr. we're pleased to have you here with us tonight. thank you for being here. >> it's good to be here. >> he said there was confusion about syria. >> he tried to sound much more reassuring than he or the rest of the obama administration sounded just a few days ago before the start of the united nations general assembly. he tried to be--he tried to send a very clear message to both the syrians, but also to the people in the region. >> and the clear message is? >> the clear message is that there is no place for bashar al-assad in the long-term future of syria. that leaves the question is there a place for bashar al-assad in the short-term in syria? and it seems now to be accepted by this administration as by many of its allies that the presence of bashar al-assad at least in the short term is possibly the only way that they could come around to a peaceful settlement to the crisis in syria. >> some kind of transition. >> some kind of transition. >> they said that if russia is getting involved in order to protect its interests in bashar al-assad, that this will lead to the complete destruction of syria, which has already been, as we know, laid waste here. what did he say about that? >> well, he basically, you know, he goes against the logic of the images that we've all seen coming out of syria in terms of the scale of the destruction. there are, as you know, people who say that even within the damascus, if you're in downtown damascus it looks like is happening, but you step out of the capital of damascus, and it looks like third world war zone. so basically the message from john kerry is that if the russians are coming here to help with the war against daesh, as he called t which is a derogatory terms for isis in arabic, if the russians are there to help in the fight against isis, that's fine, that's great. but if they're coming to further support the regime of bashar al-assad and hit by the rebels supported by the united states and their allies, who are fighting both isis and bashar al-assad, then you could push syria, as he said it, to even greater destruction than we have seen over the last few years in that country. >> all right, oh could it could get even worse. let's listen to what secretary kerry told you about that. >> he's been on the ground in syria for many years. russia has people in the air defense systems, who have been on the ground. russia has used the port for many, many years. so this isn't new. it's just that at a higher level. but what they've come in to do, they say, is to fight against daesh, and we will put that to the test. if they are there to fight and support assad principlely, i believe it's a very dangerous decision, and it will destroy syria, because it will attract more fighters. unless you have a political solution it would be very hard to put syria back together again. >> so obviously he does consider putin and the russians to be important partners in syria. their interests, he seems to say, are not necessarily contradictory to u.s. interests provided, and it's a very big condition that the russians do not strike at the isis or daesh, as he called it. >> when asked if the u.s. would intervene to protect the moderatesser, what did he tell but that? >> it was very interesting. he said all options are on the table. president obama does not exclude anything. would the u.s. ultimately send in troops or which ever other military way to support those rebels if push comes to shove, that obviously seems to go against the logic of what he said about the russians that the only way that they could come to some sort of settlement in syria is if the russians and the americans and others sit around the table and try to negotiate a deal even if that deal involves the remaining power of bashar al-assad in the short term. you know, a possibility which many syrians, particularly in the opposition absolutely in categorially rejects. where does that leave the prospect, that's the question. >> we're at the point where we're talking about talks still a long way to go. thank you very much for being with us tonight. >> thank you. >> coming up, storm front fears of record flooding along the east coast. we'll have a live report from charleston, south carolina. plus treating ptsd, phil torres on whether a club drug could be the answer. i just had a horrible nightmare. my company's entire network went down, and i was home in bed, unaware. but that would never happen. comcast business monitors my 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not renew it. >> did you ever fathom that you would be live in your van? >> i never expected it. >> no, never. >> the jacobs are not alone. about a dozen other families are also living in cars, trucks, and rvs on this road about a mile from wisconsin's capital building. >> we have ryan and derek. they've been out here for a while. they sleep in the car. these are really good people. i don't know her name, but she's the one with four children. >> but jacobs represent the changing face of madison's homeless, the working poor who can't forward rising rent prices. >> i'm making $800 a month. i work part time. i still seek disability, and rent runs around $600 to $700 and climbing. >> madison's homeless population has been increasing since the recession bottomed out. it's up 40% since 2010. foreclosures turned many former homeowners into renters pushing vacancy rates down 2% and pushing rent prices up. making matters worse, the shelters say demand for beds is outpacing supply, so many of the homeless have been sleeping on the streets or outside of city hall where mayor banned them earlier this week. >> why did you make the decision that the homeless people cannot spend the night or be on this property? >> we have defecation and urination all over the place, and the employees could not open the windows it was horrible. >> vouchers like these could help some of the people get off the streets. but here's the problem. in the county right now 2,000 people are sitting on a waiting list just to get one of these. but the executive director of the housing authority said getting a voucher still does not guarantee someone finding a place to live. >> we have to, unfortunately, fit within huds rent for housing we will subsidize. most of the housing out there is above that limit. >> this one is $1,135. >> that is rebecca osmond's dilemma. she has a coucher but cannot find anything in her price range. >> do you want a house or an apartment. >> at this point i would take anything. >> the city is trying to help. it's now building a 60-unit apartment building for the homeless and said it has plans for 1,000 more units within the next five years. >> is that going to take care of everybody out there who is homeless. >> it might. it might take care of everyone who is homeless now. but there will be more over the next four years. >> roy jacobs is focused on surviving the next few months. >> are you able to make it through the winter? >> i don't know. i don't know. >> as he and cindy turn in for the night they're grateful to have their van. >> home sweet home. >> diane estherbrook. al jazeera, madison, wisconsin. >> a containership with 28 americans and five others on board is missing near the bahamas which has been pounded by hurricane joaquin. it was near the eye of the hurricane when it sent a distress signal. the ship was taking on water, but it was able to contain that flooding. the transport plane was sent out to search for it but so far has been unable to find it. joaquin is sounds likely to spare the east coast a direct hit, but still it is an extremely category 3 storm that is wreaking havoc in the bahamas. millions will still feel its effect. kevin is tracking the storm. >> meteorologist: that's right. the storm is slowly making its way out of the bahamas. the eye is pushing to the north, and it's located--probably will take another 12 to 18 hours before things get better in that area to do the search and rescue for the region. i want to show you the category 3 storm. it is now more over here towards the east in the atlantic, but we're watching how close it is getting to bermuda. it's expected to stay out in the atlantic over the next couple of days. we'll show you what we're facing in terms of the eastern seaboard. we have high pressure to the north. storms to the south, and that's funneling all that water and wind. take a look at parts of new jersey is doing, building up the berms as best as they can. they're expecting to see 11 to 20 feet during the high tide times. we're going to be watching that very carefully. we could be looking at an event that lasts the next four days anywhere from massachusetts all the way down here towards the carolinas. that's just the coastal warnings and watches that are in place right now. >> kevin, thank you. coming up, the oregon school campus shooting. we will have the latest. plus black in america. author d. watkins and his unflinching loo unflinching look at race relations in the u.s. >> i'm fall bean. john seigenthaler is off. the dark side of the web. the sight under investigation in the wake of the oregon school shooting. lessons to learn, race in america. the explosive first book by drug dealer turned author dee watkins with a message to all of us. plus walking on air. thwe talk about this extraordinary high wire act. >> we're learning more about the gunman who carried out the mass shooting at umpqua community college in oregon. chris harper mercer, the police recovered several of his weapons at the college, including a rifle and five magazines of ammunition as well as a flak jacket. more guns were found at his ho home. law enforcement will not publicly identify him. >> you will not hear anyone from this law enforcement operation use his name. i continue to believe that those media and community numbers who publicize his name will only glorify his horrific actions. and eventually this will only serve to inspire future shooters. >> authorities say that they still do not have a motive for the shooting. the fbi is investigating his activities online, including social media profiles and postings. and one of the web websites they're looking at is a site called bull chance. someone did post a warning of a pending attack. it describes the subculture of rage that is troubling this dark corner of the internet. >> the site is simply a place to be anonymous and unrestrained as one can be on the internet. that is saying something. as a result its home to some pretty horrific stuff. weapons, pornography, and one forum is intended as a contest of who could post the most disturbing images. at a time mandating that users register a real name for policing of content, this site advises everyone to post anonymously. in 2004 the first year it was around the hacker group anonymous was formed on this site and went on to attack the church of scientology. >> anonymous has therefore decided your organization should be destroyed. >> governments of korea, tunisia and the cia itself. they formed a man hunt for a man who abused a cat on his video which led to an arrest. the gamer gate scandal in which several in the gaming industry became the subject of harassme harassment, and now the questions of will a post on the site the day before this shooting was written by the shooter himself. it is not clear and may never be clear if chris mercer was on the site. the site by its nature is a sprawling web of anonymous users. it is impossible to know if he was one of them. they're drawn from a community who use their own language to describe their own frustration of suppose being left behind by young men by romance, their peerers or in life in general. they were saying terrible stuff offering advice to someone who they thought was planning to commit murder. now dozens of comments applaud what happened. the nature of the website is that what appears on its forums you could not have told the shooter apart from any of hundreds ever commenters on the site. >> our jake ward reporting. one day before the attack in oregon, maryland's attorney general sent letters to his counterpart across the country, urging them to adapt stricter handgun:ning laws. the law would require the lance from state police and pass a finger-print based background check and banned the sale of assault weapons and magazines with more than ten bullets. now if you haven't heard the name dee watkins, you will be. he was a drug deal center baltimore who witnessed the devastation that crack brought to his city. but he escaped the violence and went on to earn a masters of education and now is a new author of "living and dying while black in america." we're happy to have d. watkins with us now. first of all, what was your reaction to the mass shootings? >> i'm exhausted. i'm tired. these things are happening too much. we have a serious issue with gun violence in our country. >> you've seen it on a personal level. i've heard you say by the time that you were 14, i think, you said you were almost murdered 15 times. how do you communicate living with that kind of day-to-day violence to people who haven't? how do you begin to do that? >> it builds up a lot of resiliency. not just me. anybody in my city. so when i made that statement, it was more based on not as a target, but as a kid growing up in a midst of cross fire of rival gangs. something that every kid goes through. it's tough. i didn't know it was a problem until i moved outs of those types of situations. >> i mean,--it's like you said, that's your day-to-day reality. >> i didn't know anything different. >> how do you think it shaped you as a young man? >> you know, when i was coming up, i didn't have a lot of value for my own life. i put myself into some extremely dangerous situations. you know, again, thatexposure outside of my neighborhood gave me the skills to see what a meaningful life was. i'm a fortunate person to be here, and i feel like it's my responsibility to deliver those skills to other people who don't understand that reality. that's not just the kids living there, but people in the suburbs who don't really know what is going on. >> just to help people to understand. >> and to help with social relations when everybody understands these issues. >> this was striking to me about the perceptions of the world you grew up in. you said dealing drugs is not like tv and the movies. you don't hook up with old friends and build an empire together. it's lonely. and every man for themselves. >> it's a one-on-one game. a lot of times people who had been through that will tell that you. they end up being the last one standing. >> wow, speaking of that, as someone who came through it and is standing tall now, i mean, how did you do it? how did you make your way out? >> i'm blessed. i'm extremely lucky person. some of my best friends are gone. not just dead, but serving life in prison for violent crimes. i'm the luckiest person. i don'i don't take it for granted one second. i try my best to do everything in my own power to help people understand. one, selling drugs is not cool. it isn't an escape. it isn't a way out. two, what skills you need to develop to make it out of these types of situations. i'm willing to dedicate my life to that, and an voice and a resource, and most importantly a presence. >> well, i think we're all lucky for that. i have one last question for you. you said that you were lucky you had the right opportunity. you said kids who deal drugs, if they had the right opportunities, that they would end up the ceos of for hundred 100 countries. they have real skills. >> selling crews, you just sit around. there is marketing, strategic planning, you have to get up early and be there every day. it's not a simple task. it is not an easy job at all. it's extremely hard. and if you do the math, the hours don't add up. if you're a kid or young person working for somebody else you're risking your life, your freedom, and you're doing all these things, and by the end of the week you might not have enough money to pay your sprint bill. it's not glamorous at all. i challenge anybody who knows about the other side of that life to be a voice. let people know. you know, i've done these things, and it's not pretty. >> d. watkins, i know we're going to hear more from you. congratulations on the first book. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> ecstasy is a popular drug that goes by many names like mda or molly. but now doctors are using it to treat post traumatic stress disorder. >> nestled in the woods of south carolina couldn't be further away from this electronic music festival. at festivals and nightclubs, the illegal drug molly or ecstasy is part of the culture. called molly or x on the street, mda is really methamphetamine. it's a psycho active drug first developed as a blood clotting agent and then patented as a diet drug. it acts on the brain by causing neurons to release more serotonin. and it causes dopamine as well as hormones to be released. all leading to a heightened feeling of trust and compassion. this is why mdma is called an antpat hogen. rachel just took the illegal drug mdma. rachel spoke with techno from her new hope in berlin. she's hopeful she has put her difficult past behind. she said as a child she was severely neglected, and by age six she was sexually abused. in the '90s she was diagnosed with ptsd. but back then they called it anxiety. >> i finally told this therapist, i said, i'm doing everything you told me to do. i'm doing everything right. why am i getting worse? i was hysterical. he said, because we have no cure for ptsd. >> so we think that mdma seems to have this interesting combination of helping decrease fear and defensiveness at the same time, so people are not numb from their emotions but they're not overwhelmed by them either. >> they're dancing between us. they're making art. >> they're out in the open running around. >> that's so healing. thank you so much. >> techno's phil torres joins us from culver city, california. it's great to have you. now this patient was part of a small test group. what were her results? >> yes. yes, a small group, but her results were great. that is powerful stuff going on there, and right now she's symptom-free. that is a huge step from, you know, years of therapy and having to take things like anti-depressants. two thirds ha of them had very big success. >> how far do they have to go? >> they're in phase three. it is one thing to show one or two people but it's another if you want to give this to thousands of people suffering from ptsd. for now they're trying it on people who are looking for hope. >> why do they think that the mdma actually works? what is the mechanism? >> yes, you know, it's interesting. it's not just taking mdma. it's along side a therapist. one of the things with ptsd is they have a fear of reliving that memory. also it's very difficult for them to talk about it at all. so with mdma they reassociate that memory, they look at it in the face with no fear, and they can open up to their therapist. they can have conversations that otherwise are really quite difficult. >> it opens the door for treatment. phil torres, thank you so much. you can see more of rachel's mdma journey on techno saturday at 6:30 p.m. eastern time. now coming up next, a booming business of fantasy football. and the lawmakers are saying its nothing more than legaliz legalized gambling. and the man on the wire, we talk about that astounding walk that made him famous. >> the nfl is a television juggernaut. many are not just rooting for the teams but individual players who are on their fantasy league teams. fantasy sports in general is now a multi billion dollar industry, but many say it is no different than illegal gambling on sports. john henry smith has the detai details. [ cheering ] >> old school sports fandom follow your favorite team. >> my pitcher just gained four or five sports. >> your new sports fandom follow your real players on your smart phone. rick anthony runs a factcy league whose season runs as long as the nfl season. >> yes i'm a jet fan. it's good to see us win. but to make some money along the way rooting for other teams, other players makes it that much more exciting. >> like many fantasy leagues whose seasons last as long as the nfls, the winner of rick's league takes home hundreds of dollars from a pot made up of league entry fees. but those who don't want to wait that long to win there is a new way to play. >> at draft kings we play for glory. >> if you watched any major sports programming this year, you have no doubt seen these a ads. >> fan duel fantasy football league is paying $75 million each week. >> daily fantasy leagues offer the chance to win cash prizes from $20 to $30 to over $1 million every week. >> i won to date so far profit almost $5,000. >> the daily fantasy leagues offer that ability to play for high stakes with a cost to play that for some tournaments can be as low as a single dollar. sometimes even less. that's made for an army of converts. that's also made powerhouses out of the industries two biggest competitors. >> both draft king and fan duel are valued at $1 billion each. thanks to partnerships with some heavy hitters who want a piece of the action. the companies are spending a lot of that capital to get you to play their game. according to ispot tv, fan duel and draft kings consistently rank among the top tv ad spenders in the u.s. >> they both raised $75 million, and they're dueling it out big time. >> according to research, draft kings and fan duel brought in a combined $60 million in entry fees during the first week of the 2015 nfl season. that's twice as much as betting the old fashion way in las vegas during the same time period. in fact, many argue that playing daily fantasy sports is just gambling. the new-fashioned way. markeeded a adelman. >> is it gambling? absolutely. the question is is it illegal gambling? >> the answer is no. playing fantasy sports online for money is legal right now for one reason. when the federal law prohibited sports betting passed in 2006, lobbying from the major league pro sports leagues resulted in lawmakers granting fantasy sports an exception for as it's become more commonly known a carve out. >> for the carve out to apply, first it has to be a contest based on the relative skill of the players. second, the prizes have to be pre-determined before the contest begins. and finally, it has to be based on the results of multiple real-world players. >> the game of skill angle is one that daily fantasy industry points to repeatedly the reason why the government shouldn't lump it in with the likes of online poker. but lawmakers appear increasingly skeptical. calling for an investigation, to him, daily fantasy sports is clearly gambling. >> how is it any different from sports betting, how, because you call it fantasy? >> pam roach has tried to keep her state one of five in the country where playing fantasy sports online is illegal. >> having an online gaming situation on daily, or even a minute-by-minute basis is online gambling. >> even as fan duel is making money, i don't think congressmen are paying all that tension. now you can't go a day without seeing he's ads it's led to a lot of people looking up and saying what's going on here? >> concerns of legality barely register with ricky anthony, and with no doubt the vast majority of america's estimated 75 million fantasy football players. they're too busy playing. >> sunday the most because i'm a football fan. i'm constantly on the phone, fan duel, it's a ten-hour day for me. >> john henry smith. al jazeera. >> 41 years ago a young frenchman named philippe petit pulled off a death-defying feat. he walked on a high wire on the world trade center. we talked to the real philippe petit and asked how much planning went into the legendary walk. >> i have to tell you it took me six and a half years but not of daily work from the moment i start dreaming about the towers, they were not built then, from the moment i spent foot between them and the work. >> you brought a piece of the cable that you used to walk between the two world center towers. obviously that's heavy stuff. >> i would lend it to you, because it would break at 60 tons. >> 60 tons. >> yes, and you shot this with a bow and arrow? >> not actually. this is so heavy. what i did was pass a fishing line with a bow and arrow, and then we pulled--my friend was on the other tower, we pulled across a cord, and then a rope, and then a heavy rope, and then the very heavy cable. it took us all night. >> while you're watching this happen, what is going through your mind? are you starting to get nervous. >> i'm doing more than watching this happen. i'm the leader for all the action, the mastermind behind the high walk i'm concerned am i going to be caught? would i have enough time before the workers come and finish the roof next morning? so all that was part of the angst of the illegal walk. >> one of the things that you talk about in this book is practice. and you talk about it in regards to juggling, actually. >> yes, i even teach or i reveal the secret to the reader how i do it. may i should demonstrate. because it's the most difficult thing. you juggle, and then you have one ball that you catch blindly behind your back. the reason why i connect this, to be able to focus and catch it, you have to know before you throw it that you're going to be successful. the in other words, the first step is the point of no return. this happened in my life at all level of creativity. it is not just juggling, but it's nice to share that with the people. >> are a spiritual person. >> i believe there are gods everywhere to help us. >> you walked back and forth eight times? >> yes, it was not just walking, but there were police waiting for me to give myself up. they said he's not walking, he's dancing. >> and then you laid down on the wire. >> yes, to rest, absolute the sky and dialogue with a siegal. i was trespassing, and pun intended, but i was trespassing into the territory of the birds. when i saw the seagull, i started a friendly dialogue. i didn't want it to come back and eat my liver. >> you are thinking all these things while concentrating on staying on this little wire. >> yes, exactly. well, it's a big wire. >> well, it doesn't look--it doesn't look that big to me when you talk about being on top of the world trade center. can you talk about what 9/11 meant to you? >> no, i cannot. because it will be wrong for me to talk about a personal loss of two magnificent towers that i love like human beings. the day that they fell, they took thousands of humans lives. how can you talk about the loss of an architectural marvel and the loss of life. but you can imagine since i spent six and a half years ge getting to know those towers, and i married them with my wire, you imagine how i felt when that happened, but it cannot be compared with the human tragedy of that day. >> john seigenthaler with philippe petit. what an outstanding story. the movie, "the walk" opened nationwide today. i'm paul beben. the news continues next with antonio mora. ♪ >> president mr. putin had to syria not out of strength but out of weakness because his client, mr. assad was crumbling. >> and kremlin fighter jets take aim at more targets, this time hitting isil. the u.s. reels from another mass shooting, a look athy

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