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how can a community heal? a night of special coverage, flash point ferguson. a way forward. >> welcome everyone. flash point ferguson is what we're calling our live coverage. i'm tony harris, and the anchor of "america tonight," joie chen. great to you see you. this feels like a really important night for the city, a night to build momentum. the tricky night towards the end of the evening, it's been mostly quiet mostly peaceful. around midnight or so some of the people here to cause some difficulty began to act out a bit. that's when things get tricky, i think that's something you have noted in your time here in ferguson as well. >> that's right, tony. the video of the protesters, demonstrators are back out on the street, focal point of all of the protests, michael brown died about a mile off this road but this main commercial area has been the focus of attention not only the demonstrators but also of law enforcement. >> you know joie, one of the important moments pro-probably occurred last night -- probably occurred last nights. incidents, water bottles thrown and arrests made. but at about 2:30 a.m. this morning ronald johnson of the missouri highway patrol mentioned, i believe there was a turning point made. the quote goes on to say that the people who were assisting in this march, community members, members of the clergy, interspersed among the demonstrators did caimg influence on the younger -- calming influence on the younger people. and as we watched the protesters and demonstrators on the streets again, it feels as this is an opportunity to build on a momentum that was gained last night. i know you spent a good portion of your day walk the streets and talking to people as you have for last four or five days that you have been here. i wonder what your sense is where this city is at this particular moment in time? >> tony, there is a lot of focus on the situation with attorney general eric holder, a representatives of president obama, where that goes forward with the department of justice, attorney general himself, very unusual for official from washington to interject himself at this point. he has been meeting with michael brown's parents as well as with community leaders in the course of this day. that has been the focus of a lot of attention. no, sir many protests, protesters today, the demonstrators have come out as we go into the evening. >> and that's been the pattern. an interesting take on the day, i spent the time to talk to as many community residents can as i could, we happened upon the business district here, pretty devastated over the events of the past 12 days, vandalism, looting, and i happened upon this particular restaurant, red's original barbecue shack, it's a barbecue shack joie. it's an indian american who owns this particular place, trying to drum up as much business as possible. this is a business that was looted, where windows were broken. but they decided to reopen today, one of the reasons this owner decided, i've got a number of employees who depend on this as their livelihood. we're not pretty but we're going to reopen to serve bash coo to the community. we had an -- bash co barbecue to the community. it was an opportunity to see what i think has to happen moving forward here. and what has to happen in my estimation, i'm sure yours, too, there has to be more interaction like this. you will maybe see in a moment. there were moments when police were talking to members of the community. there were moments when the owner there vernon actually took barbecue to the officers. that was encouraging this exchange. people talking to one another that's been lacking in this community, it seems, according to the people we've been talking to, forever in this community. it was important, glad we stumbled upon it. an opportunity to see at least with this particular business this young man getting this business open and engaging in the community again. >> you make an interesting point. how the business is, the important community, it's really only half a mime mile -- mile. and businesses have had a tremendously difficult time. they are caught in the cross fire. a number of businesses, look carlos carrasco, we go home and watch -- we go holm and watch this on tv. a woman told me i go home and watch tv i can't sleep. i'm wondering is this the night that my business might be plooted? at the same time -- looted? the people want to move things forward in a peaceful way, very, very difficult way to move forward. very conflict eld feelings. -- conflicted elz feelings. >> joie, i know you're on at the top of of the hour. i want to give you a sense of what has happened during the course of this day. we have put together the events of this day highlighted as joie mentioned, of the arrival of the attorney general of the united states, eric holder. the the nation's top law enforcement officer attorney general eric holder, is overseeing the federal investigation into michael brown's death. today holder met with members of the ferguson community and promised to take concrete steps to change things in the community. >> my man. you are the man. >> he also met with ron johnson, the official credited with helping defuse tensions between police and protesters. johnson says he welcomes holder's arrival. >> i think showing the people of ferguson, st. louis, the people of our nation that their voicesser heard. the highest law enforcement in this land listening to their voices and taking a look at the comment that happened. >> this evening holder also met with michael bryan's family, as they make plans for his funeral. again hearing evidence in his shooting, whether darren anderson should fate charges. deep ties to the police. the grand jury as ask normal with grand juries will meet in secret and has no time line. it could be weeks before the proceedings wrap up. all right, mast thou moralia is with us from new york city. he is a form he police detective. it's great to talk to you. i want to talk about what joie and i were speakerring about, you have -- speaking about. there is a common thread that is expressed to us, for years and decades, the people of this community have not really spoken to one another. the police have not spoken with any kind of depth, right, have not spent time with the members of this community, and vice versa, that there is a siloing that goes on that people in this community can live within their own racial group and have very limited contact with one another. what needs to happen moving forward in the aftermath of this event to change that dynamic? >> i would say it's going to have to do with trust. and i know that's a word that's thrown about by a lot of people. mayomerriam webster's dictionary defines it as someone who is honest and good. the police need to establish trust in the community to do what they swore to do, protect the citizens they swore to protect. >> matthew, how difficult or easy is it to do when there's been a gulf between the two communities? i got to tell you we saw some instances of that today when we were at the barbecue shack, the barbecue restaurant, we saw members of the highway patrol engage with the community and overheard some conversations, it seemed like that was very positive. to have that continue is what i'm worried about, to establish that kind of relationship when it's been absent for so long. >> it's going to start with ethics from the leaders of the community leaders and the police department. it's important that the particularity and the officers that are on that police department are -- are ethical and doing when they are supposed to be doing. i'll share a story with you, happened to my house and it will be applied to this community, my daughter broke a glass, my six-year-old was coming down and i said you cannot come down these stairs. you're going to cut your feet, you got to let daddy clean up the glass.i cleaned up the glass and lo and behold everything was fine. this was an example of are trust. my son wanted to come downstairs but he knew he couldn't he trusted me knows i'm good and i explained to him. so that's key here. the police are going to have to find a way to communicate what their role is and why they do what they do. and they're going to have to justify what they do so people know that they're good and then once the people believe the police are good they will trust them. >> got you. and to follow that analogy a little bit and take it a little bit further. it may take baby steps. matthew, good to talk to you. former new york state police detective. thank you. going to get to robert ray now, in clayton missouri, and the office of the st. louis county state's attorney's office is there in clayton, murs, and robert over to you. and robert that was one of the hot spots today. >> it was. and we're expecting protesters, about 100 of them to be here literally any minute. as you said this is prosecutor's office and the jail here in clayton, we are about 11 miles from you tony, and a lot of people who are calling for the prosecutor to step down because of the close ties to police, his father was a police officer and shot in action. you can hear some of the clergy have already gathered. they've also done some signs on the ground. derrick, if you will come back to me, they've done chalk and done bodies i guess to make it look like the police have shot someone on the ground. you can see the clergy over here. they ar waiting the mass -- are awaiting the mass crowd that are about to be present here now. the thing is not everybody is protesting. earlier, we caught up with a couple that live outside the commercial district, who have seen all the violence over the past two weeks. the patch of pavement that michael brown took his last breaths are just a couple of blocks from aan area we have met a by racial couple who have not been protesting. they are among the many residents who have not taken to the streets. >> we have ferguson. >> the husband and father of three worries about retaliation if he speaks out so he doesn't want to show his face. >> i fear for the family. i mean, but they see the protesters are basically turning our neighborhood. >> reporter: he says the age are that boiled over to looting and violence was misplaced. >> we are mad at the cops so we should have been standing in front of ferguson police station. what are y'all going to do about what happened. >> we have nowhere to go, we have to go miles and miles just to get gas. >> reporter: this family is hopeful the protesters will bring change. they say the community should wait to react until the legal review of mike brown's shooting is complete. but like many others, they feel not everyone in ferguson is treated equally by the police. >> so what you're saying is you think there's police profiling in your community of fergd ferg? >> if you're black you're going to be streeted differently? >> yes. if you are seeing knee disturbing, stop me. but if i'm minding my own business, you should anything, bump your heart and wave because i ain't doing nothing wrong. >> reporter: no justice, no peace written in chalk on the sidewalk here outside the prosecutor's office. marchers, demonstrators on the way, tony, probably peaceful, we're guessing we're hoping but there are police officers that are recording the events there, across them watching, about an hour ago, riot police went inside just in case. we'll see what happens, another night tony. >> another night in ferguson. robert ray joining us from clayton. we know that you have questions about this investigation, how it is unfolding, what has happened in fergse ferguson since the nit michael brown died. we are giving you the opportunity to air your questions. #dearericholder. your thoughts and what's happening here in ferguson, missouri and you can also go to al jazeera america's facebook page as well. a couple of opportunities for you to join the conversation and send us your questions your thoughts on the events that are transpiring. i want to send it to my colleague randall pinkston,. >> thanks tony. the secret mission to save american captive james foley's life and why it failed. plus, huge fines, the settlement between the bank of america and the department of justice. >> we are continuing to monitor events in ferguson, missouri tonight but we are also following major developments in severely other parts of the world. angry words from president obama today over the death of journalist james foley. foley was beheaded by the islamic state group who posted a video of the execution as a warning to the u.s. mike viqueria is in washington tonight also with word of a failed rescue mission in syria. >> late wednesday night, announcing that u.s. commandos leads a raid inside syria in an attempt to rescue an unspiftd numbeunspecifiednumber of u.s. . the american commanders found that the u.s. hostages were not there. lisa monaco who was the president's top advisor, on u.s. terrorism, unspecified number of american held hostages inside syria, target of this raid, a rescue mission, same day president obama appeared at martha's vineyard, after authorities had verified the awe some video depicting the beheading of james foley. they determined that it was authentic. president obama then very shortly shortly afterwards he ex corhe excore coriaated the perpetrators. do anything that's possible to. >> he was strong cowrlgous loving to the end we highly recognize our little boy. i mean he just -- he was just a hero. >> and you know from the videos his last words were, i wish i had more time. to see my system. >> so jim had a big heart. and just -- i just you know, that's what we shared with president obama. you know, we just pray that jim's death can bring our country together in a stronger way, and with the values that jim hold dear. >> held dear. >> held dear. jim would never want us to hate or be bitter, and we cannot do that, and so we are just very proud of jimmy. >> israel today said its military offensive in gaza will not stop until rockets are no longer being fired at the israeli people. israel has you launched more than 100 strikes on gaza, thousands turned out for the funeral of a hamas leader's son. meanwhile, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu vowed to continue the offensive. >> only the goornt o the guaran, operation protective edge is not finished. not for a minute. we're talking about a continued campaign. >> peace talks are now at a standstill, netanyahu recalled israeli talks yesterday, palestinian officials left today. in japan, a month's worth of rain fell in a single night. at least 36 people's people were killed including seven children. rescuerrescuers useed helicopteo lift survivors to safety. california officer involved in a violent arrest last month. aboucalifornia highway patrolman daniel andrew. punching an elderly woman in the head during arrest. the officer has been placed on administrative leave, the district attorney of los angeles will review the allegation. there are reports that bank of america has reached a record $17 billion settlement with the department of justice. the department had accused the bank of packaging shoddy mortgages. the announcement could come as early as tomorrow. the biggest settlement between u.s. government and the company. tax deductions and accounting tricks make it seem smaller than it is. up next, returning to ferguson, missouri for live coverage and we'll hear from michael brown's teachers about the young man she knew. knew. stuart! stuart! stuart! stuart! ♪ check it out. this my account thing. we can tweet directly toa comcast expert for help. or we can select a time for them to call us back. the future, right? 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members of the clergy there as well. let's toss it out to robert ray, who can give us a sense of what's happening right now. >> reporter: tony indeed you're right, these are members of the clergy out here. they are from across the country. there are literally rabbis, protestants, catholics, people coming in peace. love is our weapon, that's one of the sign reads. this is very peaceful right now but this is also a situation where they want to make clear that they are against police violence. that is the key message here. as the these clergymen -- let's listen in if we can. >> this is not ast. louis problem. we are clergy gathered from around the country to say that this would happen to mike brown and what is happening in ferguson is an american problem. >> reporter: what happened to mike brown and what happened to ferguson is an american problem not just local. powerful words here, 11, 12 miles from where you are, as protesters are gathering right by you, tony. >> all right, robert, it's interesting to see that picture some ,a very diverse crowd. if this community is to heal people from the various races, the various ethnic groups, religious affiliations have to begin talking to one another. i think that is a message at a can be extended into many communities across the country. pretty much a universal message at this point. darnell hunt is a professor at ucla, and he researches issues of race and civil rights and the media as well. darnell, good to talk to you, thank you for your time. ferguson, what does it tell us the events over the last 12 days about the notion of a post-racial america in the aftermath of the election of the first african american president? >> well, i think it tells us that notion of post-racial america is a myth. we have a long way to go, lots of unfinished work to do. unfortunately those who believe that we have gotten beyond race have tried to push too far ahead and we've kind of turned back the clock in many ways. we've weakened the voting rights act, all but eliminated affirmative action, and we feel politically inactive. beneath the tragic death of mike brown that's what we're seeing in ferguson. >> given your area of expertise and your area of research and study what strikes you as being eerily similar about what happened to michael brown and what feels different to you about this moment, if anything? >> well, i think the similarities of course are you have an african american male who was brutalized, in the case of rodney king he was beaten, he wasn't killed. mike brown on the other hand was actually shot and killed. so you have african american men who are the target clearly and this whole issue of a menacing black threat, rodney king was beaten because he deserved it. michael brown wasn't ogood egg because he was stealing cigars. to assassinate his character and present him as a threat as other black men who of course we have to contain by any means necessary. i think those premise are there. in terms of differences, the big difference with 1992 is the event was just by luck captured on videotape. we had a really good image of what happened, the video went viral. the police weren't convictof anything and the city burst into flames. we have in ferguson an official police version and other versions. so this stuff is going to have to work its way out and i think that's one of the important differences between los angeles and ferguson. >> sure. darnell, my understanding is you have a 16-year-old son. you have and everyone in the black community understands it when you say the talk. >> yes. >> when you had the talk, what his reaction was the death of michael brown, the conversation you had after jordan davis's death and after the death of trayvon martin. >> the same conversation that black parents have to have with their children. we had the same conversation after trayvon martin, some of the other high profile cases around the country. we live in a country where there's a lot of unfinished business as it relates to race. you have to watch yourself. in many cases you can be a target. it's unfortunate. it is not something that any parent wants to tell their kid but the same token you want them to be as safe as they can be. >> darnell, it's a pleasure to talk to you. darnell hunter is a professor at ucla. i appreciate it and thank you. there are a lot of hard lessons to be learned in ferguson for sure and many of those hard lessons still have not been learned by the communities that go through this. report from los angeles from tower jennifer london. >> -- from our own jennifer london. >> ezell ford, unarmed black man killed by police. protesters in cities take to the streets. these protests in ferguson turned violent. these in l.a. no less passionate, stay peaceful? why? >> there's a leadership that gets out in front in l.a. as soon as something happens. you have press conferences, they're having marches, demonstrations, people have an outlet. here in ferguson it's like wild west. >> and l.a. has been there before. april 29th, 1992. the acquittal of four police officers charged with savagely beating rodney king triggered explosive race riots, when it was over, 53 people were dead, 2,000 injured more than 1,000 buildings destroyed by fire. erwin small is the owner of this body shop located near the flash point of the l.a. riots. he and six others stayed with the business to keep it from being burned to the ground. he doesn't want to go on camera, saying he has worked shard to forgot those days and has moved on. he has seen a change in the neighborhood and the l.a.p.d. a change for better. mother and auditor harriet and carlista lived through the riots. since those terrible days, carlista says. >> burned up our city. glue and what do you think the police learned. >> how to handle things differently. >> in the 22 years since l.a.'s race riots the l.a.p.d. is a different force. nonwhite officers make up roughly 64% of the department compared to 41% in 1992. there's community policing and civilian police commission. two days after ezell ford was killed the police met with residents. >> the first thing i asked for was any witnesses in that neighborhood that may have seen anything that could come forward and tell us. >> reporter: and while many say there's still a lack of trust and racial discrimination -- >> we keep getting shot by the police. >> in los angeles at least the two sides are talking. jennifer london, al jazeera. >> we want too talk about the diversity and the lack of diversity in ferguson, missouri, two-thirds of the population of ferguson is african american but nearly all of the police force, nearly all of the police who serve city government are white. and clearly we have to realize that the lack of diversity is the question. paul beban has been looking at the issue of diversity for us, paul. >> the threads of the social fabric have changed profoundly in the past decade, it is a community with a new majority but the old guard is still running the show. after more than a week of confrontations between mostly black protesters and a mostly white police force firing tear gas, rubber bullets and driving armored vehicles, tuesday's remarks by mayor james knowles of ferguson, struck many as a little tone deaf. >> there is not a racial divide in ferguson. >> based on arrest figures he may well be right but that doesn't change the fact that ferguson'ferguson's institutionk nothing like its people. the city in is about two-thirds african american. but the mayor, police chief, many of the councilmembers and the school board are white. >> ferguson used to be 75% white just 20 years ago. and now, because of the sweeping demographic changes, it's almost 70% black in just 20 years. but there's been an institutional lag in the ability of civic institution he in ferguson to really represent the new diversity of the town. >> reporter: so the city changed but its power structure stayed the same. how did that happen? the ballot box tells the story. in the 2012 presidential election black and white turnout in ferguson was roughly equal. but in local elections the following year when turnout is normally lower, 6% of blacks who are registered to vote actually didn't. whites voted at five times that rate. jeff smith explains why. >> the black population is much younger than the white population. if you are under 18 you don't vote. the timing of elections is important. municipal elections in st. louis county typically take place in the spring. of course, the presidential election which takes place in the fall is when people of lower socioeconomic status are much more likely to turn out. >> at a weekend memorial service for michael brown reverend al sharpton says the new face of ferguson needs to make its face known. >> y'all got to vote and show up. >> another problem is that this institutional lag can be very durable. when people see that their leaders don't look like them they're even less likely the vote. they feel the system is rigged against them. the question is how to break that cycle and get underrepresented groups to the ballot box, tony, that's the tough one. >> yeah, paul beban in new york, appreciate it. thank you. we have spent a lot of time in ferguson talking about demonstrations and unrest, and those sorts of things. that's certainly a major part of the story. it threatens to drown out the life of michael brown and joie chen of "america tonight," had an opportunity to more about brown, sometimes talking to his art teacher. want to share a bit of that conversation with you. >> i was michael's art teacher. kinkindergarten through grade 5. as an elementary student he was very quiet, kind of kept to himself. >> he grew up to be a big young man. >> he loved a treat, i would play my son beat and if the kids were very quiet they got to listen to them. michael was the student, who said be quiet, be quiet, so we get to hear the beats. so i would play the beats. my last experience with michael was the day of his graduation. i had not seen him since fifth grade and i saw this big kid walking up towards the summer school graduation, and i said, you said you don't remember me? and i said who are you? i'm michael, michael brown. and i'm like oh my god look at you, you're so big. i gave him a big hug. i said why are you here? he says i already finished my courses but i didn't get an opportunity to walk across the stage in my cap and gown. so i came so i can walk in my cap and gown. >> you going to hear more of that interview with the elementary school teacher for michael brown coming up in just minutes on "america tonight" with joie chen. i want to bring on our next guest, art mccoy. the first story to tell. the first african american superintendent in the ferguson school district. you have seen the ups and downs, the goods and bads of this community. the aftermath of the shooting death of michael brown what are your thoughts to the community? >> first i want to send my condolences to the family of michael brown and thank you for getting the message out across the world. >> sure. >> it's been a tragic episode of experiences. from the fact that he died. to the way he died. multiple shots, more than six. toot way the lack of -- to the way the lack of respect to the body being out and uncovered for more than 4 hours, more than 100 people could see it to then the series of resistance efforts, to stop people from expressing their opinions. in the worst of times we see some of the best of times people stepping into the occasion and saying we are here we value life we are strong and we are going to make the most of the situation. >> you know art i don't want to beat around the bush with you. you have been through some ups and downs of this community. i talk to people who tell us that this co- could be a very segregated community. i want you to tell us about the deep seeded paper in this community over racial issues and then we'll get to your experience. >> for certain. historically speak egg, i have grown up in this community. ferguson was a sundown town. >> sundown town. if you are black get into your house and if you are visiting get out of the community at sundown. >> exactly right. taking it to the streets, michael mcdonald, you don't know me but i'm your brother. i'm living in a living hell. that was written by a graduate of ferguson. also, ferguson is right next to kinlock is the the oldest african american city in missouri, the home of dick gregory. you have a presence of african americans and also caucasians. >> why is the police force, why is the city government so white and the population 60, 63% african americans, problem is african americans don't have the poll to voting. >> people don't come out to vote, don't see the results of their voting, people who are electlike them, in places of authoritarian positions, who can be segregation. >> i don't want to be indelicate, were you drummed out of the position of superintendent? >> i have been a change agent all my life. youngest superintendent in the area of age of 33, and the school district $150 million budget over 10,000 students. the board that hired me was the board that did not want me. there was more diversity but a change in the board. >> were you drumentd out over issues -- drummed out over issues of race? what happened? >> there was a differential in focus and -- there was a difference in focus and finality. there were bridgers who wanted more access to all those in need and a belief in hunkering down and fortifying and make sure you keep your resource he and give it to the loudest voices. >> you are sayings you were not ousted by race? >> i decided to move forward as a bridge builder. >> speaking of which, what has to happen to move forward in this community? >> we have to have systemic change that comes from sustained united leaderships. we have to have voices on the street and voices of power in clayton and legislative and faith leaders in general like myself, to make sure that we see the problem and make real solution he. >> art mccoy, great to see you, thanks for taking the time. it's crazy hot out here. appreciate it. want to give you back in new york, david schuster is there. talk about the hashtag we have created and it gives people the opportunity to go have their opinions known. >> the hashtag is #dearericholder. if you want to join the conversation. so far many of the responses we've already received have been aimed add law enforcement. justice in ferguson would be the mike brown law requiring law enforcement to wear badge cameras and dash cams. and kid brother tweets, dearericholder, these are u.s. citizens, hashtag barbaric. amy barnes wrote, dear eric, holder, i want cops to be held to the same standards as nonlaw enforcement officers. if you have a message or question for attorney general eric holder, use the hashed #dearericholder. you can post on instagram or twitter and we'll pull some of them. @facebook.com.com/al jazeera america. joie, i want to hear your reflection of the elementary school art teacher of michael brown. >> she was very concerned, the amount of media attention, the kind of portrayal of michael brown in the media that concerned her. she wanted to speak out, she wanted to explain what she knew about that young man, that he did have ambitions, that he intended to start school. he was actually very interested in a music program that nellie sponsored at a local concert. >> the rapper nellie. >> he had a lot of interest in music as well. she wanted to speak to that. we are also going to hear from a young man who went to school with michael brown, just graduated from high school in june from a high school that had a lot of difficulties of its own for a completely different reason. a very interesting time and we have followed up on that. >> i know you've got just a couple of minutes to the top of the hour, thanks for being with us to give us a preview. as we go to break here i want to show you west florison avenue. people are on the streets, they are on the streets marching. the promise has been that people are going to be on these streets waiting for what they consider justice. and for a lot of these people that means an indictment there in wilson, the person who shot michael brown, a trial and it means a conviction. they are going to be on the streets until they consider justice rendered. so take a look at these live pictures now. we're going ogo to break and we will have more as we see some of the police presence there. we're going to have more from ferguson in just a moment. this is al jazeera america. $. >> flash point ferguson, the title on our show, want to show you the pictures from west florison avenue. it's been this way for at least a week. in the evening hours it's when the crowd starts to gather, we're in a bit of a heat wave right here in the mr missouri a, st. louis to be more specific. there are people on the streets there, there is the attendant police presence as well. what we always worry about for the last few days now is what happens in the later hours of the evening and small hours of the morning. that's when we've been seeing some of the problems starting last night. are it's been really telling. we've seen the clergy and the elders of the community, marching with the demonstrators, they have helped keep the pressure down, when they left around midnight that's when we started to see bottles being tossed and a number of arrests. the highlight of the day is obviously the arrival of the attorney general of the united states, eric holder. there is not much t that he can say about the unfolding of the investigation. there are 40 or more members of the investigation, there is an investigation led by the justice department that is pursuing a separate track, a parallel track to what's happening with the county prosecutor's office which by the way started to offer up evidence to the grand jury today and that is a story that we will continue to follow. it's going to take some time perhaps weeks there for there to be an indictment if there's an indictment to come mr. this particular case. but i -- to come in this particular case. an individual who works for a radio station 104.1, dj boogie d, he is providing an opportunity for the residents in ferguson oexpress themselves. want to give you this piece. his first-person view of events here in ferguson. >> saturday, unfortunately when michael brown was shot on ferguson, we started noticing on social media a lot of ground swell, let's go out and we're not going to take it anymore. we started seeing the photo of michael brown laying in the street, the photo of his step dad that said the ferguson police just murdered my unarmed child, and we decided to open up the phone lines on the radio station. >> i live in ferguson, my son stays right there where the incident happened, every day he leaves this the police is stopping him and his girlfriend asking where do they live. >> everything is coming in fast from social media, people don't really know what happened last saturday. we're just trying to keep the information going as fluid as possible. unfortunately we did have to stop the music when some of the looting was happening. this is all happening in real time so as a radio station for us sometimes in the best interest we have to stop and you know get the news need on and go. >> can you not bring an untrained -- you cannot bring an untrained suburban coul cop and expect them to know what to do in that community. >> it ranges from anger to sadness. some are very positive in helping try to ease the situation. so it goes from every gamut of emotion. from this moment is to say that is really what the cause are. a, when is the officer going to be formally charged and when is the next process in that process. also, it's also opening up a deeper conversation to talk about how these neighborhoods are policed and the interactions with the neighborhood and a lot of people are just upsettle because these -- up set because these neighborhood -- upset because this neighborhood policing hasn't been going as well. obviously, to formally charge darren wilson. that's what everybody is waiting for. i think that is the first step to bring us some true calm and peace in the streets. to show that something really is going to be done about what happened to michael brown. >> so as we wrap up the news from ferguson, missouri, just a quick programming note. we're going to turn this over to our colleague joie chen in a couple of minutes. i'm i'll be joining joie as we start our two-hour coverage, flash point ferguson. until then, this is al jazeera america. >> and welcome back. we are once again at the command center here, near ferguson, missouri where law enforcement is getting ready for yet another night where they will be watching and seeing exactly what demonstrators do to keep things under control. i'm joie chen. i'm joined by al jazeera's tony harris. there is a night of special coverage. there are so many developments and we're watching closely to see what the night ahead brings tony. >> we are, this is one ofhe

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