Transcripts For ALJAZAM Consider This 20141121 : comparemela

Transcripts For ALJAZAM Consider This 20141121

Theyre actions that i have the Legal Authority to take as president. Instead of fixing our broken immigration system, the president says that hes acting on his own, and thats not how democracy works. Certainly by the calendar year, youll see a much more robust presence. This is a longterm challenge. A ceasefire was in september. They continue to be detained and tortured. Too much displace many. No respect for the weary in new york state. Parts of the area have snow on the ground and 4 feet before its over. This is a major emergency. We have roofs collapsing. Three students are injured. And a gunman is dead at Florida State university. You hear about all of these shootings, and then it just happens. Today, were all ffu. We begin with president obamas controversial move. A common sense, middle ground approach. If you meet the criteria, you can come out of the shadows and get right with the law. If youre a criminal, youll be deported. If you plan to enter the u. S. Illegally, your chances of getting caught has gone up. We will always be a nation of immigrants. We were strangers once too. The president s threeyear plan allows roughly 5 Million People to avoid deportation, and it includes for parents of children who are residents. It expands the dreamers acts provisions, and calls for prioritizing deportations for recent arrivals for criminals, and beefs up security. The president insisted that his actions are lawful and challenged republicans who threatened to sue him, claiming that hes wildly exceeding his executive authority. To those members of congress who questioned my authority to make the immigration system better, i have one answer, pass a bill. Republicans say they are ready to do whatever it takes to stop the president. They were going to go nut, because theyre going to see it as a move outside of the authority of the president. Hopefully not, but you can see stances of anarchy. We are joined at capitol hill with congressman steve king, and i know that you strongly oppose the president s unilateral action, but didnt something need to be done . Paralyzed. This didnt need to be done. The introduction of the rule of law with regard to immigration didnt need to be done, and thats what happened. The president has taken the constitution, stood before america and separated out article 1, and torn it out of the constitution, and folded it and said im going to run this part of the government too. He has taken that authority, and our Founding Fathers set up a separation of powers and they envisioned the executive and the jeweled i shall branches of government would jealously protect the power thats vested in them thumb the constitution. This congress has to step and up take back the legislative authority from the president , and if not, the republic has been torn apart. Thats why i have a sick feeling in my stomach and he knows better. 22 times, as he gave the speech. The congress has refused to take a vote, including on the senate bill that passed more than a year and a half ago that had some republican support. And illegal immigration is a crisis that the republicans have called a lot of attention to, and wasnt there a pretty desperate need at some point to move on this if congress wouldnt . If congress doesnt pass a bill that the president wants, that doesnt validate his unconstitutional action. I would say if the president thought this was so important, he failed to convince congress that they should pass a bill that followed in his bidding. Congress has passed legislation, and we passed border legislation august 1st this year, to tighten the loophole, with mexican kids coming into the country and being distributed to every state, to send money to the border state directors directly because the president is not enforcing the law. The president announced before the bill was drafted that he would veto it. Thats the kind of cooperation we have from the president , and now he sticks his finger into the eye of the United States congress, tears the apart, and destroys the rule of law for a long time to come. We have to put the president back into the constitutional barreled rails, and thats going to take a series of steps of things to do. And certainly, the president. Net move on this, when he had huge majorities in congress in the first two years, and were seeing that the represent rick has gotten very heated on the republican side, calling him a lawless president and senator kob urn said that we could see anarchy and violence. How far are republicans prepared to go to oppose this executive order . Well, i think that the first thing to do is to bring a resolution of disapproval to the floor of the house house, pass that, and it stipulates the things that he has done and our rejection to it. We did what when the Supreme Court went out of the board of the constitution, and we have theology to bring censure, and that has happened to president s but it has been a long time since we utilized that. And the third thing, to shut off the funding to reinforce the law. I dont think that its getting very heat when do you say that the president is acting in lawless fashion, he has done violence to the constitution tonight. And its not the only time that he has violated the constitution. Talk about the proposals and what you think you can do. What exactly can congress do to defund anything that really have an affect on what hes doing. Because citizenship and Immigration Services are funded by fees, not by congress, and im sure that you dont want to defund ice, because in a of course Border Security depends on those agents. Well, you see me smiling a little bit because ive seen this argument emerge from the white house in the last few days, saying that its a fee for services. It takes an appropriations bill. Thats a red herring by people that want to do an anonymous bill, wow imagine that the president of the United States can violate the constitution, and take the authority unto himself and the congress is powerless to veto that . I brought the legislation that cut off the funding for obamacare, and we went through this, but its an internal ruling in the house that isnt written. So does want house have a tradition that prevents us from defending the constitution when the president violates it . Thats not going to hold, i have the language in my jacket pocket. You said that impeachment is a last resort. But a lot of republicans have made noises about impeachment and is anyone considering that . I think that its seriously considered. And i think most, and im speaking of the conservatives that i know the best, most want to start out with the minimal and ramp it up to we must defend the constitution. So i say incrementally, the resolutions for cutting funding next. And the American People have to rise up. We need to hear from the American People, and if not, there wont be energy in the congress to get that done. We have to make a decision on this by december 11th, and from where i now stand, i wont be able to vote for any appropriations bill by a lawless act by the president. Im talking about the funding used to implement this. This is not an emergency. This is the president deciding to legislate by executive edict. He has violated his october to care that the laws are faithfully executed. And now the 35 of us in the house and senate are obligated to follow our oath and put the president back in the constitutional guard rails. Lets talk about the family and the president s executive action is greatly aimed at keeping it together for people who work and dont have criminal histories, who pay for work permits and all of these things that are required enter order to be able to work in this country. Shouldnt that be something that philosophically the republicans should support . Of course we support families, and we support a man and woman joined together joined together hopefully in holy matrimony and blessed by children, but all of us are victims of our parents, and bad decisions my our parents. We dont put somebody in prison for a serious crime because they have children at home. And if the family is separated, its because of the decisions made by the children and the families themselves. We didnt put up a sign that says come to america, and you get to live in per opportunity. But instead, we put up a sign that says, if you cross the border, youre going to commit a crime and well punish you. Wanted president doesnt have to worry about the latino vote. And you dont have to worry about it, and it could be decisive in National Elections, and theres Clear History that latinos have turned against candidates who have taken up tough positions on people who , and would that damage the republicans chance to win the white house . I have counties in my district that are very high in numbers and percentages, and its not that im not sensitive to this, but i recognize that we have latino families, and their moms and dads and grandparents, and they love k hard, and i encourage them to work smart and hard. But we should not be doing identity politics and bending and twisting the constitutionas underbecause were worried about the vulnerabilities. When you take an oath to the constitution, you dont have a caveat in there that says unless its advantage to me, you must defend the constitution come what may. Congressman steve king, thank you for your perspective. Lets bring in michael shore from los angeles, and joining us here from new york, republican strategist, tom dougherty, and hes a political adviser. And its good to have you with us. Despite what we heard the congressman say, guys, the represent rick on both sides, you have the democrats comparing this to the new emancemation proclamation and the republicans talking impeachment and anarchy and violence in the street. And even tom coburn is not normally a sober guy. Coburn has a Good Relationship with the president , and hes talking about rioting in the streets. No one is going to look apartment facts of this situation. Its just going to be the rhetoric of how dare he do this . And its sad that as an american, americans lost tonight. And im talking about americans who, i believe illegally came into this country many many years ago and have American Kids in this country, who shouldnt have to live in fear that theyre going to be shipped home, away from this were children. They did wrong, and were not granting them citizenship. So a lot of republicans like myself the immigration reform. All we saw tonight is the president thumb his nose into a system that he hasnt put a lot of time and effort into negotiating a deal. Mike, your opinion on that, the democrats making a scene where its a grand moment, abraham lincoln. I dont know if we could go that far, i wouldnt compare it to slavery with coming over here in many cases illegally and having citizenship. Thats going a bit fash, but however, i think tommy is not right when he talks about this being, thumbing the nose at the American People. The president , to his as is in the record, had a senate bill that went to the house of representatives. And i think in some sense, if the president has thumbed his nose at the country, so too has john boehner over the last year and a half when they had a bill sitting in the house of representatives. But than doesnt manner. This is not about the micro. This is not only about the legislation. This is about the macro, the political reality of a pretty coming in and taking sort of political ownership of a group of people, while at the same time lets bring in tom on that. Is this all about politics . The democrats making sure that they solidify their gains . Of course it is. If that werent the case, they have bad political calculations going back before the election. Why didnt they do this before the election . They clearly, its going to motive. Factually on one side, people agree with the policy, and they nationally disagree with the manner in which hes doing t. Which goes back to the way that the president has run the country. You have 57 of americans saying that they want immigration reform. But they didnt want the president to do this by himself. So michael, could this hurt the democrats . Could it alienate white voters who have already been trending away from them . Democrats have already found a way to alien aint white voters as a group over time, but theyre making it up with voters. Could they have done this before the election . I thought so. I thought that analyzing it that night, it was not a good move on the part of the president , but now, wait a second, now hes going to hamstring this congress. Its about people who are living in fear, and living inent shadows, as the president put it, so its about people, and not just about politics. All right, this will affect a lot of people, heres what he said in the president ial campaign. I talked constitutional haw for ten years, and i take it very seriously. The biggest problems are george bush trying to bring more and more power through the executive branch, and not go through congress at all. And thats what i tend to reverse when im president of the United States. So the president sounded like congressman king, who we just had on, and is this more flop . I would say that its a longer conversation, antonio, when you talk about what the president ial power is. There was a lot of democrat in the president when he was running, as a senator then, and talked a little bit about how there was overreach from the bush administration. And this is not something that has gone rampant with the executive action, and also, hes the president now, and things always do change when you become the republicans. You have a hard time. And there are at least 40 video clips that ive seen in the last 24 hours, where he has said time and time again, i dont run a monarchy and i cant do this by myself. Tommy, if he people are saying that hes being emimperial. He is saying, that i dont want to be part of that. Theyre looking for their own political gains, and we need to solve the immigration problem in america. We shouldnt have the president of the United States for the last three years going on speech after speech, saying i dont have the power to do this, and turning it around and saying i do have the power. There was a bill sitting in congress, at a certain point, there was exasperation, and this is a stop gap, this is a threeyear measure, a new president can come in and throw this out. I hope that this motives the congress to sit down with the president now, and go over his proposal and get a piece of legislation done. Thats my hope. Is that realistic . No, but can you imagine in two years, a republican president who overturns the executive order . That would be horrible. Then youll realize the political power of what happened tonight. Because you will lose a swath of americans who you had, and that would be unfortunate for both parties. What about the argument that president s reg began and bush 41 used the executive order . Theres a difference that they dont talk about. In those two instances, they were fixing loopholes, and it was a technicality by executive order that went into fix, and in this case, you have a whole legislature that hasnt acted on this, wrongly so, so its a of different situation. Michael, how does this play out . You have republican governors saying that theyre going to sue to invalidate this. Governors have more power, because governors can take parcels of education, and they can play with this law level than congress can. And one of the things, the funding for it. Theyre going to hold this hostage by not putting the spending bill in. And this would be enacted by the Immigration Services that doesnt get any money for it. They could do something about it. He would have to attach that to a spending bill, and congressman king knows a little bit more about how the Legislature Works than i do, but everything i have read and the people that i talked to over the last few days said that it would be difficult and almost impossible to get any spending bill passed if they attach those riders onto it. What about impeachment and Government Shutdown . Do you think . No, if they do theyre crazy. Lets stay focused here. We just had a huge election win in november, and lets not think that somehow this was solely on immigration. There were a lot of reasons that republicans came out and elected a new United States senate and thats why the governors won. When you Start Playing an open hand in politics, thats when you get beat back, and we havent done very well in National Elections recently. They have a lot of work to do. Thanks. Coming up, did the u. S. Government offer to pay ransom to secure bo birds return. And the loss of mike nichols. Did the u. S. Try to pay money for the release of sorting bo bird al . The elite Counter Terrorism delta force joined with the fbi to Exchange Money on the afghan bored this year, but the deal was apparently a scam. An afghan, who claimed to represent the acani network, disappeared with the money. Joining us is rear admiral, john kirby, the press secretary, and always good to see you, admiral. The military was in the business of paying ransom for bo this year, and was a ransom paid. No, a ransom was not teamed. So there was no attempt for his release involving the fbi and supposedly going to the border of pakistan and afghanistan . Well, i certainly cant speak for other agencies in the government, but speaking for the defense department, no ransom bags wade for Bowe Bergdahl or an it attempt for release through a ransom. And you talked about how the military has at times paid significant ransom for information, and was there money paid respect to bergdahl, and ransom in. Well, i dont have any indication as i said earlier that that was the case in the bergdahl situation, and it is a fact that in the past, we have used money as an incentive to get information to help our operators in the field. And thats a practice that has occurred. But again, i dont have any indication that that was done in this case. Turning to iraq, the reports that the iraq governor of mosul was killed in an airstrike on wednesday, and where are we in leadership . I cant confirm those reports. Were still assessing the strikes to see what the results were, to the degree which any leaders may or may not have been hit. And the

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