fall. >> u.s. air strikes have been targeting i.s.i.l. positions. >> is this going to stop i.s.i.l. from overrunning kobani? i don't know. >> nationwide demonstrations overtime. >> the first person diagnosed with ebola virus in the united states has died. >> another patient in the dallas area being monitored for ebola. >> until the outbreak is over in west africa we can't get the risk to zero. >> after he set up a fake facebook account using this woman's name to lure criminals. >> it is such an abuse of power. >> around the corner cars that can talk with each other. >> that was a genuine alert. you're about to collide with the car in front. >> fasten your seat belt with what's to come. >> drones too expensive for human aircraft to go. >> 29-year-old woman with terminal brain cancer wants to die on her own terms. >> i can only tell you the amount of relief that it provides me. >> we begin with enhanced screening procedures at the five u.s. airports that receive the majority of passengers from west africa, the epicenter of the ebola epidemic. the new guidelines, thomas duncan, first patient to be diagnosed with ebola in the u.s. died at a dallas hospital. there are new concerns about a dallas county deputy taken to the hospital after developing stomach systems. officials say he was not one of the 48 monitored after duncan was diagnosed. >> there is someone who does not have either definite contact with ebola or definite symptoms of ebola. who is being assessed. and you know what? we expect that as more people are concerned as there's a higher index of suspicion people will be assessed. >> the stricter screening at u.s. airports will begin saturday at john f. kennedy airport, at chicago's o'hare and atlanta hartfield jackson. they will now be asked targeted questions about any contact with ebola. their temperature will also be checked as it is when they leave africa. >> what we're doing is putting in additional protection. we've been very clear that as long as ebola continues to spread in africa we can't make the risk zero here. we wish we could. >> joining us now from dallas is al jazeera america correspondent heidi zhou-castro. heidi, good to see you. how much do we know from this dallas county sheriffs deputy, taken to the hospital where thomas duncan died on wednesday morning? >> hey, antonio. we know this man started feeling ill this morning. according to his son the father was feeling a little bit nauseated a little bit sick but there was no fever. because this man had entered the apartment where duncan stayed and where his family members were still at, this man decided to go to an urgent care clinic and at that point health care workers decided there out of an abundance of caution to transport him to the hospital behind me and of course this here too is where duncan had passed away just hours earlier. >> this computer had entered this apartment without any protective gear so why wasn't he one of the 48 people who health officials have been monitoring? >> we're learning that ten of these 48 antonio were people who had direct contact with this patient. with duncan who has passed away. the rest are possibly contacts are contacts. and simply put the cdc did not think that the level of contact that this man had, as well as other first responders who served that quarantine order into the apartment, they didn't rise to the level of possibility of contracting ebola. and this man who had entered like you said without any protective gear had actually brought up some concerns to county health officials afterward asking why he was allowed in there without protective gear? at that time it was note able before the county could find a east wastwaste facility for thes from the apartment. >> it's not likely that he has ebola. what about mr. duncan, what is going to happen to his body? >> his family speaking through his pastor has decided to cremate him. we know the dallas county coroner will not perform an autopsy, recommends against performing an autopsy from a person who has died of ebola. there are a lot of procedures that need to be handled as they prepare him for cremation because as you probably well know ebola remains very infectious in human corpses. >> al jazeera america's heidi zhou-castro, appreciate you joining us, thanks. joining is dr. robert gladder, an emergency medicine physician at new york's lennoxville hospital. his recent piece, ebola in the er the importance of taking a travel history. great for you to be with us. >> thanks for having me. >> enhanced screenings, at some u.s. airports where most people from west africa enter those airports, although they don't come directly but from airports in europe. is that going to help much because they are being screened when they leave west africa and the reality is the incubation period is really so long it's only a matter of hours here. is this more of a pr thing than something that will really help? >> that's correct. the entrance screen when they leave and when they reenter the destination where they're going may be helpful but at this point in time you know anything helps. the key is people can still take medicines such as ibuprofen or tylenol to reduce fever. fever is not a sure fire way to definitively beat the screeners because you can drop the temperature you have. asking the questions are certainly effective. >> although it wasn't effective in the case of mr. duncan because he was asked the questions whether he had contact before he left liberia and the reality was he said no because -- >> right. >> dashes apparently most people say no -- -- apparently most people say no because they can't leave. >> the result of all this has developed into is really concerning. patients that develop ebola symptoms have a long incubation period, two to 21 days. and in so doing, it's difficult to find these patients, almost like finding a needle in a haystack. there's no sure fire way to do this but it's a start. >> very important we saw what happened in this case, he went to the hospital and his admission was delayed by more than two days and by then he was deathly ill. >> right. >> are you confident that hospital he are not going to make the same mistake in the future? >> it's hopeful that hospitals are on a high alert status. it's key, asking any patient who arrives with fever, where have you been in the last two weeks? have you had contact with anyone who has been in west africa? this disease starts very unspecifically, fever, die re, muscle aches. the flu starts this way and patients would often more often have malaria and tie for identification rather than ebola. that's where most of the screenings would reveal. >> that's why you write in your piece to make sure hospitals take ohistory when they come in. >> it's the one thing that arrives with the arrival of a patient with fever. >> last night we had the co-president of the biggest nurses union in the country and they have serving nurses around the country and they are updating this survey every day and they found the most recent numbers say that 76% of nurses are saying that their hospitals do not have -- have not communicated a clear policy on what to do with ebola patients. how concerned are you when you hear of things like that? >> i am concerned right off the bat. that's something that needs to be fixed. administrators, department heads need to be aware of this. if you have been watching the news or paid any attention in our plugged in society you have to know something is happening in west africa, it is a global phenomenon now. >> talk about global in madrid we have a nurse that has ebola and we now think or at least they now think that it might have been she touched her face as she was taking off her protective suit. she tried to get attention for days. having a fever but apparently it was low grade. she kept asking it took them a week before they finally got her into the hospital. are you at all concerned that this is a nurse who just touched her face that it might be more contagious than we think? >> we think we know how it spreads. this virus is not borne in a droplet or airborne way, it is spread by direct contact. when we do the procedures of putting the suit on taking it off, there are observers that are supposed to be watching and pointing things out. >> there are protests in madrid because they decided to euthanize this nurse's dog and people were very upset about that. is there any real concern that animals could transmit ebola to humans? >> there's a thee receipt cal concern. there's -- there's a theoretical concern. at this point in time they're not going to take any chances and they've chosen to euthanize the animal. that's debatable at this point. it's not been documented in large studies that this is a transmittible way between animals and humans, dogs that is. >> so much is not known about this disease and let's hope it's under control in this country and in near future, in west africa. dr. gladder, pleasure to have you with us. >> absolutely. >> blody attack on kobani, i.s.i.l. convoy was smashed, forcing i.s.i.l. to retreat. the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general martin dempsey, admits that while kurds are putting up a fight, kobani will likely fall. at least 21 kurds have been killed an many wound he in riots that began on tuesday. i'm joined in washington, d.c. by james jeffrey who served as ambassador to iraq and crrs, syi want to start with the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff general manatov dempsey who says he fears that kobani will fall. >> this would be a dramatic change for the worse. the most terrible thing that will happen to the coalition into the region since the fall of mowl mosul back in june. we have drawn a line in the sand and hit numerous strikes on kobani, we can't put a coalition together to stop these people because in kobani we have syrian kurdish fighters who are willing to stand and fight. why aren't they being supported? >> again repeated that air strikes won't do the trick to fight i.s.i.l. that combat troops are needed. with free syrian army fighters not being ready, and why not go all out against i.s.i.l. with air strikes and especially in light of the fact that there are reports that i.s.i.l. may have moved lots of fighters there from all over the region for this battle? >> that's a very, very good question. nobody can seem to understand why. these are what we call targets of opportunity. the -- first of all we do have troops on the ground. we have these very, very capable syrian kurdish pyd fighters. they've proven themselves in iraq, proven able to hold off i.s.i.s, and others, they fight hard and go down fighting. they are out-numbered and out-gunned. what you do is use air power to make up the difference. air power covers the delta, one of the major uses for air power. this idea that air power can't decide the day in kobani is flat wrong. we need more air strikes we need different kind of air strikes probably and eventually they may need turkish intervention indirectly. let's see what help air strikes can give them. >> are you going to let i.s.i.l. just continue to take more land and also, what's the difference between kobani and the yazidis? we certainly went in there full tilt to make sure that the yazidis were not massacred by i.s.i.l. in iraq. here, there's talk that there could be just another major massacre if i.s.i.l. manages to take over this town. >> these are good questions. even those of us who work in this administration cannot answer them. but we think bob gates in his book and leon pa panetta in his book have something, towards the use of military force and that leads to the things like going in in dribs and drabs, leads the an over-consciousness onld civilian casualties. and sort of unwillingness to engage with people who might be a problem. under certain circumstances the syrian kurds might be a problem, they ar lied with the pkk, the turkey kurdish party. >> apparently the air strikes had positive strikes on wednesday and have made i.s.i.l. in some areas fall back. but turkish president erdogan predicted anyway that kobani would fall to i.s.i.l. then the deputy prime minister said, "turkey will not be content with the fall of kobani into the hands of terrorist organization he." not sure what that means. but then turkish forces as we're saying continue to sit on the border watching this unfold not doing anything to help. and a senior administration official said this isn't how a nato ally acts, while hell is unfolding a stone's throw from their border. erdogan just keeps talking out of both sides of his mouth. it seems like he says one day that he's going to get involved and not let kobani fall but then he says oh no i'm not going to get involved until the u.s. does something about assad. what does erdogan want? >> what erdogan wants is three thingsing this. first he wants to defeat i.s.i.l, there's no doubt about it. but more than anything he wants to defeat assad, there's a blood feud between them and push the syrian back to iran, and the third thing he wants is keep the turkish kurds and the syrian kurds under his control. he wants to see them fighting assad under his command and control to some degree and he wants them to give up their dreams of autonomy or even independence because he sees that as a threat to turkey's own kurdish population. you're dealing with the lease-bad emergency situation. he needs to act and act now or he's going to get none of the above. >> secretary of state john kerry says he thinks the turks will make a decision in the next couple of days. what do you think they'll do? >> well a they're not going to make a decision unless the u.s. is more liberal against action he against assad, whether it be a no fly zone that erdogan wants or other initiatives. we have to do that, it's necessary to get erdogan on board and frankly to keep the arab states on board. secondly if we do make commitments in this regard i think with the right pressure and the right enticements we can get the turks to play a much more active role. general allen will be out there i think we should wait to see how he does. >> let's hope kobani holds until then. are ambassador thank you for joining us. now for more stories from around the world. we begin in idaho where same sex couples were turned away when they tried oget marriage licenses. on tuesday the ninth circuit court of appeals ruled that bans on same sex marriage were unconstitutional but idaho's attorney general filed a challenge to the decision before the u.s. supreme court arguing it would cause irreparable harm to the state because the law was approved by a public vote. supreme court justice anthony kennedy then placed a temporary stay on the ruling. his order came about ten minutes before idaho officials would have begun issuing licenses to same sex couples. kennedy is requesting a response to the case by 5:00 thursday. many expect the stay would be lefted soon thereafter. then to ukraine where one person died and three more wounded, when artillery shells hit a shopping center in donetsk. 331 people have been killed since the september 5th ceasefire. that's about ten a day. the report says 3600 people killed and 8700 injured since fighting began in mid april. and we end in east hampton, massachusetts where a staifnlg f emergency has been declared. no series injuries reported in a wind event described by a meteorologist as a micro-burst. the storm happened early in the morning. one city official observed had this been an hour later during the height of our morning commute there would likely be serious injuries. if not fatalities. that's something, of what's happening around the world. wall street renown investor, the ride will get rockier. and did the dea cross the line? when it created a fake facebook page? and our social media producer, hermela aregawi is tracking the stories on the web. >> stirred up strong emotions online, i'll tell you more coming up and while you're watching join the conversation online @ajconsiderthis or on our facebook page. >> edge of eighteen, >> your entire life has brought you up to this point, right now! american teens, making a difference >> we wanna fight for our education >> choosing a path... >> if i'm not sharing the gospel, then i feel empty inside because that's the gift that god has given me >> deciding their own future... >> i'm petty burnt out... if i said that i was perfectly fine, i would be lying >> oscar winner alex gibney's edge of eighteen the powerful conclusion... only on al jazeera america >> the stork market enjoyed its best way of the year -- day of the year on wednesday. seen the markets plunge the day. but a hint from the federal reserve that it's no hurry to raise interest rates, sent it on the spending spree. dow jones closed 16,994. the s&p and nasdaq earned with solid gains. jim rogers is the author of several books his latest street smarts, adventures on the road and in the markets. jim very good to have you back. let's start with the stock market roller coaster. the federal reserve says it intends to keep the interest rates near zero. the imf expects the market to be the best in the world. you were a bit more bearish,.. >> i didn't say i was bearish. but as long as they keep printing all this money everything will be great. mrs. yellen says when things get tough, don't worry, we'll keep it going and she will. eventually it will collapse. in the meantime -- >> quantitative easing, the fed punching all -- pumping all the money into the economy. you talked about a accurate strove once they stopped putting the money into the markets. >> just because she ends qe 3, or whatever it's called, doesn't mean they can't stop buying bonds. there are plenty of ways for them to pump money into the economy. this is all very artificial and when it ends, it may not end for another year or so. just because it's ending it doesn't mean it has to end this year. >> are interest rates going to remain this low? >> it's destroying people who save and invest. think about people who do the right thing, they save and invest for the future and all of a sudden they're getting nothing on their savings, on their retirement. it's destroying the one class of people that you don't want to destroy. and it's having grave effects for the long term. >> but disputed the good news -- but despite the good news about the economy, if interest rates go up it might cause a slow down and stop that little growth we're seeing? >> eventually antonio yes of course. but there's an old adage in the stock market. when you let the federal reserve raise interest rates three times, everything will probably be okay, it's the fourth time that you have to worry about. the market has seen interest rates go up many times in its history. every once in a while they get scared and people roar back. but then disaster starts, we have conceivably several more months or even a year or two. >> what about the labor market? the unemployment rate is down to 5.9%, that's the lowest in years but the labor -- they forced participation rate people employed or actively looking for work is at it's lowest level since 1978. what do you see is the story there? >> antonio, i'm delighted that you're perceptive enough to look behind the numbers. what they do in washington is jiggle the numbers any way they want to. 5.9% is the official number, but you're looking behind the numbers and see, these people are not looking for jobs anymore so they are taking them out of the numbers. that's absurd. the rest of the country isn't doing so well. >> the imf has lowered its global estimates, the head of the imf called the new mediocre, the u.s. economy would grow more than other industrialized economies next year. how do you see a slow down in the world economy affecting us? >> antonio first of all the imf has never been right about anything ever ever ever. so whatever you say you should assume the opposite is going to happen. yes many countries are slowing down. the russians are slowing down and that means the europeans are slowing down. china has been trying to slow down and cool things off for a while so it's not unusual that some parts of the world are slowing down from what they were a year or two or three ago. in the u.s. we still print money so we're doing better. but unfortunately we are not enough to carry the road when other people are having problems. >> the strength of the economy is helping but is it a double edged sword? it could help our exports and put the brakes on our ability to grow and compete. >> well yes yes yes. but most countries in the world like to have a strong currency. it's better for 300 million americans, all of us who have anything have a lower cost of living because everything that's imported is cheaper and yes, people who export are having a difficult time but america grew dramatically for many decades with this very strong currency. many countries, japan grew for decades with a strong currency. a strong currency is normal what people want. some people suffer but other people benefit. >> so what would you tell the ordinary investor to do? >> be careful, be very, very careful, don't invest in anything these days unless you exactly know what you're doing, you yourself know what you're doing. don't listen to a guy on the television or newspaper. you're supposed to buy low and sell high, not buy high and hope it goes higher. >> jim rogers, it's great to listen to your insights. >> my pleasure antonio. let's do it again sometimes. >> turning oa facebook profile that looked like millions of others. featuring a woman and her family showing off a fancy car. but this facebook profile was fake, set up by a dea agent. sandra prince arrested in a cocaine case. the agents set up the profile in an effort to get incriminating drug secrets now she's suing saying her privacy rights are violated. we are joined by mary ann franks, an associate professor at the school of law and head of the cyber crimes initiative. mary ann good to see you. the justice department initially defended the dea for setting up that profile but now they're reviewing the case. this woman was charged and sentenced to five years probation. the dea was using the facebook page as bait trying to get access to other people who were involved. the agent timothy sinogen communicated with one known fugitive. is there anything wrong to what they did? >> there is a lot wrong, law enforcement is supposed to have some latitude, but this steps over the line in many ways. we are talking about not just engage being investigative activity but im% necessitating someone without their consent, using their photos, private pictures, using information about their children and using that all in a way to obtain information about someone who's not even the person involved. and at the same time, putting this person, this particular woman in some pretty series sers danger. >> aren't there specific laws that prevent, the information came from this woman's cell phone which the dea claims they could use because she gave them access to her phone. >> this is actually the most tripling aspect that the government is trying to say, that by turning over her cell phone, she consented to turning over all kinds of information from that cell phone and creating that entirely fake facebook profile. it is different for the government to say, going with the idea that turning over your cell phone subject to investigation is somehow consenting to having all that information used, and an impersonating facebook account is shocking. >> continuing to be devil's advocate here, they have created fake covert accounts, the nsa reportedly used agents in gaming activities, like world of war craft, and we know that the fbi for years, fbi agents have posed as underaged kids to catch sex offenders and law enforcement has used this to catch baz actorbadactors in the virtual wy not the real world? >> pretending to be a real person as opposed to a figment of the imagination, this is quite different and a departure from usual police practices. >> in this digital world we live in 90% of americans carry cell phones. this lawsuit is just happening now but in june the supreme court ruled that in most cases the police cannot search the phones of criminal suspects, sweeping endorsement for prieives rights. what does a law enforcement officer have to do to go to my twitter page and see what i posted? >> the law is in flux right now and one of the issues that this case is instructive, showing us we need to think quite hard about the interaction with the federal governments, when it comes to not just the government looking at us but the kinds of things we are voluntarily surrendering to private companies. we're trying to work out the boundaries of this. the supreme court made a strong stance that you need a warrant to look into someone's cell phone. but that doesn't answer the question about well can a law enforcement officer look at other types of information that he might be freely available to other members of the public? the answer is probably yes that a law enforcement officer can look at anything that anybody else can look at. the question is when you are acting in government capacity can you go beyond what a member of the public could see? >> we've talked about on this show about technology outpacing the law. how quickly are we going to see efforts to really adjust to our new reality any time in the near future? >> well, we hope that we're going to see it soon because the consequences of this, as this case shows and other cases are showing, can be quite serious. people are revealing a lot of information about themselves, in certain contexts account in the expectation that those contexts are quite sealed in some ways. that we give up certain types of information in certain places but we don't expect that information to be broadcast beyond though contacts. once we realize what the consequences will be hopefully law is going to catch up with the idea that we should be putting emphasis on full informed consent before we allow these types of privacy ilings have as and these-d violations and these boundaries to be breached. >> thank you. >> hermella. >> a 29-year-old woman has decided to schedule her death. she's been diagnosed with an aggressive form of brain cancer and rather than let the disease take its course she decided she will die on november 1st on a day after her husband's birthday with medication prescribed by her doctor. >> i will die upstairs in my bedroom that i share with my husband with my mother and my husband by my side and pass peacefully with music i like in the background. i can't even tell you the amount of relief that it provides me to know that i don't have to die the way that it's been described to me that my brain tumor would take me on its own. >> a lot of strong reactions online, my heart is breaking for you and you've inspired me to live a better life. patrick says i support this woman that's a rough decision. many are pleading with brittany not to take her life. evangelist rick robert roberts , god wants to heal you. >> links to new stories about patients who outlived their diagnosis. other shared personal stories. masha, her brother, last month his cancer is in remission, please give yourself a chance. laurie says she supports brittany's decision because of her brother-in-law's experience. he became schooled with fear sadness and depression on top of the physical pain after he was diagnosed with a malignant brain tumor. let us know what you think. heavy stuff. >> thanks hermella. straight ahead. flying spying and killing machines. we'll look at the many and incredible ways drones will change our lives. also nearly two-thirds of people around the world say they've moved from their home country for a job. we'll see why and where the u.s. ranks as a destination for job seekers. cars that can talk to one another. the new technology that can save your life and could be in your car within a couple of years. permitted air space alarmed a jet trying to land. i think they're real. the easiest thing to do with a drone it's incredibly cheap most of them come with them already is to stick a camera on them. as you fly your airplane through the air to kind of look over barriers that exist. at a human level on the ground. to look over fences almost nonexistent because nobody has tried to fly in these spaces before. the guy i was telling you about in texas who flies looking for missing people and dead bodies told me once he was on a search in georgia where his drone happened to capture a marijuana grow. nothing to do with a missing person he was looking for. but the police said they took it and ended up making a huge bust. there is a lot of ambiguity, many states have not decided whether the police themselves need a warrant to use the drone to look at your property. >> and you mentioned hezbollah using drones to -- for surveillance inside israel and of course that raises the question of terrorism and why use a suicide bomber if you could use a drone to deliver a bomb? so there are some scary sides to this and i encourage people to read your full article because it has all sorts of fascinating information raises a lot of questions. benjamin wallace wells great to have you on the program. >> great to be here. thanks. >> we move from drones in the air to driverless cars on the ground. >> what happens if a kid comes out chasing a ball? oh my god! oh my god! we almost killed that guy! >> that was close. >> and some of these latest safety innovations could be in your car soon. but first would you move to another country for a job? you'll be surprised at how many young americans would and the numbers are even more striking in other countries. our data dive is next. >> today's data dive looks at the startling number of people willing to leave their home countries for work. nearly two-thirds of them are willing to abandon their native lands for the right job. the preferred destination, the u.s. 42% would come here. the u.k. and canada weren't far behind. germany is the top country where english is not the first language spoken. because of their large economies and high living standards. hour asian countries were less popular because asian languages are perceived to be tougher to learn. and while more foreigners owould love to work in america than anywhere else not many americans are willing to leave the u.s. for a job. only 35%, the lowest of any nation surveyed. but that does vary by age. nearly 60% of millenials are ready to move broad for work. facing economic and political stability have the highest number of people willing to leave. 97% of pakistanis are ready to go but surprisingly 94% of workers in france and the netherlands are too. new york city is the most popular city for job seekers, sydney and paris. global in an increasingly global economy. coming up cars of the future from vehicles that can talk to each other to technology that can help save your life. we'll look at the high-tech reality we're speeding towards, on the road. >> the next big innovation is right around the corner. it actually could be literally driving around the corner by itself. driverless cars are just a few years away from hitting the market and they're already being tested on public roads. that's not all. very soon cars will be able to talk to each other helping to safe you from all -- save you from all sorts of dangers on the road. you can listen on "techknow," here is "techknow" host phil torres. this is fascinating stuff. let's start with the vehicle to vehicle technology. cars actually communicating to each other. what are they going to be saying? >> it is pretty amazing stuff and the way it's going to work is think of your car having a wifi router built inside it. saying things like hey there's a car braking in front of you, you better slow down. so it should be really useful stuff. >> it could actually tell you if a car is about to run a red light or a stop sign, because it can actually communicate around corners and give you a warning of something you might not see. >> absolutely. you know there's a lot of distracted drivers out there and sometimes you just actually can't see because it's around the corner. so the technology is there. and should be really useful. >> u.s. department of transportation figures that the technology can prevent 80% of all accidents that don't involve impaired drivers. of course that's a huge number of crashes prevented, lives saved. and this is not just going to be available to new cars, you could actually add it to your car. how soon can we have this? >> every car by 2017, it's really coming up. one of the interesting things is just as your iphone needs to be able to communicate with a samsung galaxy phone, so does a mercedes need to communicate with a ford car. the main difference, as the driver, what kind of warning are you going to get? if that car does brake in front of you, you are going to see a sound -- see a display or hear a sound telling you to slow down. >> this isn't that expensive. >> around $200. simple enough you can put a unit in your car from 1986 and still have the same advanced safety buffer. >> it can warn you about pedestrians, really great safety features like driverless cars and this involves all sorts of the different technologies working together, radar, sonar, lasers, cameras. and it's not going to look like the early google cars with that grazey thing on top right? >> no, it's not approximately all these things will be built into the car. we got to see prototypes, looked very well. this butte of the v to v system is it's setting the foundation for these driverless cars. now with the driverless cars there will be a lot of information from that radar and sonar but it will have the medium to talk to another one. >> what i loved when i was read going this, you can get out of the mall, get out of the car to send it to park itself. when you get out of the mall you can call for it and it will come right back. >> it's amazing. simple things that can make life a lot better. you are sitting in traffic can read a book. it will prevent less accidents, everybody is happier. >> four states and washington, d.c. have laws that allow driverless cars already, many have pending legislation. how soon do we see them available to consumers? >> we think it will be pretty soon. nissan says by 2020, they'll have a driverless car and tesla says in three years they'll have a car that's 90% driverless. almost sit back and relax but not quite. >> one thing you guys address is hydrogen fuel cells, almost science fiction they have talked about the future of cars. how soon could we see that and is it something that will be better than electric cars? >> you know this hydrogen fuel technology has actually been around for 20 years. they've been working on it and finally toyota has a car that's coming out using this technology. are it's finally cheap enough. hydrogen is cheap enough, there is quite a difference between hydrogen fuel cells and electric cars. they don't have the zip of a tesla but they go longer range, they can go 300 miles on a fill up. the stuff that comes out is pure h 20 and you can almost drink it. >> what what do you think about danger? you think of hydrogen and flammability. >> hydrogen gas is very flammable. we talked to toyota and they do a lot of testing including gun fire testing. they actually shot at these tanks to see how well they did. they did really well. the only way to pierce the tank is to use armor piercing bullets and shoot it at the same place several times. it's pretty safe. >> phil torres pleasure to have you with us. >> thank you. >> that's all for now. coming up thursday on "consider this." wesley clark will join us. why politics is wrong. the conversation continues. you can tweet me th @amora.tv. we'll see you next time. time. . this is al jazeera. i am john siegenthaler in new york. ebola in america. the death of thomas eric duncan leads to new questions about the disease and america's readiness to fight it. separating the facts from the fear. to serve and protect, in the wake of the deadly ferguson shooting, police departments face fresh allegations of excessive force. preyed upon, for women working in restaurants, the new report on sexual harassmented. the y