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ALJAZAM Consider This September 16, 2014

We are ready to take whatever steps are necessary. The arab nations are prepared to put boots on the ground. Women can be as radicalized as men. We dont like thinking about women in that fashion. Its possible if they train women they could be suicide bombers. North korea sentences an american citizen for 6 years hard labour. Im requesting help for release. This is a decision for scotland to make. Independence would not be a trial separation, it would be a painful fours. Ray rice is said to make an appeal against suspension. Tens of thousands of tourists have been forced into emergency distress. Hurricane odile makes landfull. The vibration was intense. We begin with u. S. Efforts to build a coalition to fight i. S. I. L. In iraq and syria as another hostage is savagely beheaded. Officials from 200 countries gathered in paris to discuss what they could contribute to the effort to destroy the terrorist group. 40 nations signalled theyd cooperate, and several arab nations agreed to join the u. S. And france in conducting air strikes against i. S. I. L. We have countries in this region, countries outside of this region, in addition to the United States, all prepared to engage in military assistance, in strikes, if that is what it requires. Sunday, british Prime Minister David Cameron vowed to hunt down i. S. I. L. Fighters after a video revealed the execution of british aid worker david haines, the third hostage killed in the last three weeks. The video entitled a message to the allies of america recollection warns against joining a coalition against i. S. I. L. And features the same man involved in the slaughter of two american journalists, threatening to kill another british hostage. British Officials Say they have positively identified the executioner, but have not released his name. People across the country would have been sickened by the fact this it could have been a british citizen, a british citizen that could have carried out this unspeakable act. Irans Supreme Leader ayatollah comeeny said they could never cooperate with a u. S. Led effort against i. S. I. S. Phil ittner has beening on the conference. Lets start in paris. It looks like the coalition is coming together. Arab countries are coming together. Theres no clear commitment on what the countries will do militarily. Thats basically it. What we are looking at is a statement of intent. Nothing definitive at this time. We have heard a couple of strong statements from a variety of nations, arab nations, saying everything needs to be done to counter the Islamic State in the region. But it is looked upon as the first step in a process of trying to draw together what various countries are willing to do, what they can do politically, given their various constituencies, but the important thing is coming out of paris, a clear message that there are a number of nations, over 30 at this point, saying that everything needs to be done to counter the Islamic State group. This barbaric video, the most recent one from i. S. I. L. , the beheading of a british citizen bringing focus on what the u. K. Will do. David cameron said hell do what he can, but, again, he has not been all too clear. Is that because hes facing the scotland referendum. Certainly. The referendum is taking center stage in british politics. It has to be said, what happened over the weekend with the release of the beheading video, it shocked this nation, not least of which because it appears yet again to be an english citizen, or someone speaking with a thick english accent, who conducted the video. British intelligence is centring on that individual. They call him jihadi john in the u. K. We are getting messages from inside the British Intelligence community. They are clear who that individual who that individual is, but the trick now is, of course, finding his whereabouts. Finally the beheadings. Is this i. S. I. L. Sending a clear message thats having an effect, because it also seems to be Holding Turkey back, because turkey is a crucial part of this, it has a huge border with syria and iraq. It could really fight i. S. I. L. More easily than anyone else. The problem is they have 49 diplomats held hostage by i. S. I. L. Absolutely right. One of the many things that turkey faces is the fact that they have a number of their own nationals held by i. S. I. L. But turkey is deeply engrained in the situation. Its very interesting that you draw the paint that the i. S. I. L. Video and beheadings are actually making people very cautious about what they do, and thats been felt here in britain and all the metrics are brought into consideration, but most nations who are concerned about i. S. I. L. Ultimately say that while they are concerned about the citizens held and at risk, theres a larger issue at hand, and that is a growing sense of power by i. S. I. L. In the region. Phil ittner from london, appreciate you joining us. Joining us from washington d. C. Is pj crowley, former secretary of state, now at the university. As we discussed with phil ittner, the arab states are signing on to the coalition. None is promising to take military action. The white house chief of staff admitted air strikes will not be enough to beat i. S. I. L. Do you think it will happen, well see not just air strikes, but arab forces on the ground. It will be important to have overt military participation in a future operation. It adds to the political legitimacy in the region, of what the International Community is trying to do. There are multiple dimensions to this. Obviously theres a political dimension, military, and a vital economic dimension, trying to find ways to seal off sources of financial support, you know, for i. S. I. L. And theres a vitally important intelligence element in identifying targets on the ground, you know, in iraq, and potentially in syria. I think that may be one of those areas where you may well have Regional Forces on the ground to help us understand what is happening there from an intelligence perspective. In the backdrop here, you have strained relations. Between iraq and many of its neighbours. None of them like the Nouri Almaliki government. Theyll give the Haider Alabadi government a chance to demonstrate a commitment to a more inclusive form of government. The region why the states are cautious in terms of how much theyll publicly acknowledge of their support for iran. Given that kind of, say, discomfort that exists among the nations in the region, one Surprising Development was that merch officials cautioned that air strikes have to be approved by the new government in iraq, as well as by the u. S. How much of a challenge will it be for what is still a shiadominated Iraqi Government to work with the sunni countries and vice versa. The other interesting aspect is there appears to be conversations with some of the regional states and iraq itself, it is an encouraging sign. Well see. I mean, we are focussed on air strikes. Theres a lot more to the coalition if the objective is ultimately to end the threat that the Islamic State poses to the region, and beyond. Theres a lot more to this. In fact, the more decisive elements will be less about air strikes, and more about reclaiming lost territory. Obviously on the iraqi side of the border, that burden will be you know, most significantly borne by Iraqi Security forces and the kurdish peshmerga. It will be intriguing for all elements of the coalition, at what point do you move across the border into syria, where you have got very complex, you know, situation, but that is where the region is particularly unified in terms of eradicating the Islamic State. Lets talk about the elephants in the room and who werent. One is syria. Probably the biggest one, because i. S. I. L. Has so much territory in syria. It has military bases and oil fields. So theres no way of dealing with i. S. I. L. , without figuring out how to deal with syria. You add iran to the mix. It may be, again, that the states are going to do meaningful things. We are hesitant to talk about them publicly because any kind of regional action inside syria will leave the op tick that the beneficiaries of this will be Bashar Alassad and iran on the other, sworn adversaries of the major regional players. Theyll tip toe forward. Perhaps iraq will be a test case of how you can cooperate, and that may well give momentum and confidence when it comes to the syrian aspect. Its very, very complex in terms of, you know, obviously under guarding all of this is the emerging split and conflict between the shia and sunnis. That is a political reality that we have to keep in mind. You refer to the other two elephants i want to bring up. Russia was in the room. It was there in paris, and made noises about how the u. S. Cant bomb, russia being allied, an ally of the Bashar Alassad government. Will we get Security Council approval. Will we ignore it if we dont . That will be something that i am sure the administration will be looking for and try to figure out how to crack that nut at the united nations, in the coming days. You know, and to see if russia, on the one hand, iran on the other, two of the major backers of the Bashar Alassad government, whether the emergence of i. S. I. S. Changes their calculations in any way. I think at the present time, based on the statement you just made, its highly doubtful at this point that russia will change its oppositions to meaningful military activity that would have the potential risk of doing away with the Bashar Alassad government. Iran doesnt like i. S. I. L. Because it favors the shia government, in iran, and also so it wants doesnt want the threat against that government or the threat that i. S. I. L. Poses to its ally. Iran was not invited because the Sunni Arab States didnt want it there. Iran makes harsh comments about never cooperating with the u. S. Iran will be a problem. Iran is a factor in syria. Iran is a factor in iraq. On the one hand, as you said, the major sunni states said if iran comes to the conference, we wont. Theres a difference between being part of a coalition, led by the United States. The ayatollah took that off the table, versus communication, and some sort of deconfliction because obviously iran, while it continues to support the Bashar Alassad government, doesnt want to see the rise of the Islamic State as a competitor to Bashar Alassad. Theres a shared theres a shared purpose here, but not necessarily a shared path. Its a shame politics gets in the way. All these people in syria and iraq. Pj crowley, thanks. My pleasure. The u. S. Is busy recruiting nations to join the fight against i. S. I. L. , the group is having problems recruiting women. Its important they come to this place, here you forbid to live among the worst of creatures. Im joined by mia boom, professor of security studies, and author of bombshell, a book about this topic. Mia, its great to have you on the show. The fbi reportedly confirmed three young women of somalia dissent from minnesota, st. Paul area left the area to join i. S. I. L. One 19yearold said she was going to a birthday shower and called her family a few days later admitting she was in syria. Last week Shannon Connell from colorado pleaded guilty, she was engaged to an i. S. I. L. Terrorist, a guy met online. Given the horrors, why are Young American women leaving home to join the terrorists. I. S. I. L. Has two different kinds of propaganda. Theres one version where we see james foley or Steven Sotloff beheaded. They produce highend glossy videos where they almost provide a disney like version of whether its like to live in the caliphate. I think some of the american women are attracted to the notion of living in the caliphate, which is a powerful desire, an end goal for many that dont realise that i. S. I. L. Is not providing the utopian Islamic Society that they pretend to. There may be a sense of adventure, they are promised romance and support. Subsidies for children, no taxation and a wonderful husband. Lets talk about the specifics about what is going on with the Young American women. Leaders of the Somalia Community in st. Paul said of a 19yearold, that she was likely recruited by i. S. I. L. Sympathizers in the United States. Is that unusual. Until now, the conventional wisdom that you talked about, the high gloss videos, was that they are making these connections online. The Somalia Community in the twin cities has been particularly at risk for over five years, where recruiters have gone into that community and targeted a high achieving young people who are impressionable, they have manipulated and made them feel guilty about living a wonderful life in the west and muslims are suffering awroted, and they need abroad, and they need to step up and do something. The fact that they are in minnesota, may be specific to the community, theres a history of alshabab recruiting young people from the same community. We paid a lot of attention to that with the Westgate Mall bombing in nairobi, kenya. At this point this came out, that there were american men recruited by alshabab. Now we are talking about i. S. I. L. Not necessarily talking about the women though. If there are i. S. I. L. Recruiters in the United States, from a Homeland Security standpoint do we have more to worry about than a few women running off to join terrorists . Therell be concern that theres a contagion effect, and the recruiters, instead of sending women abroad will follow one of the british women in i. S. I. L. , and follow her advice, if you cant come, do something locally, like the attack in wool rich, against lee rigby. Theres a concern. The greater threat is to the arab countries, the majority of foreign fighters male and female are coming from the arab world, fewer from the west. This oxa ma mood paint a pretty picture of what life is like for women na go and join i. S. I. L. The reality, as you say, they want the women for specific things. They want the women specifically to produce the next generation, to populate that caliphate state. They have created a unit of women called a brigade, but they are only women between 18 and 25, which are the most fertile years. While the brigade needs to do something, they are mostly there to reward the fighters with a bribe, and create babies for the next generation. How many are turned into active terrorists. Although oxam said in her poetry she wanted to be a martyr, and ms connelly trained, i dont think theyll use them that way. But they may in the future. I. S. I. L. And others generate from al qaeda. And they were the first al qaeda affiliate to use a suicide bomber in 2005. I still think its possible, but i dont think theyll do it yet. A disturbing aspect to all of this. Bombshell is the book. Good to have you on the show. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Now for more stories from around the world. We begin in ukraine, where six civilians were killed, and 15 wounded by shelling in rebel controlled donetsk. The latest violence comes as petro porashenko announced concessions aimed at ending the conflict, including allowing separatist controlled areas to elect their own judges, create their own Police Forces and cultivate deeper ties with russia, while remaining part of ukraine. Angela merkel continued to press Vladimir Putin to remove Russian Troops from ukraine, while pushing for trilateral talks among russia, ukraine and the e. U. Next we head to mexico, baja, california, where hurricane odile pounded the town with wind up to 2500 miles per hour, and reported seven inches of rain every hour. Hurricane odile destroyed small buildings, leaving 200,000 people without power. There has been no reports of deaths or serious injuries. It poses more bad news for arizona, as remnants of hurricane odile will pass over that area. 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