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To consider this. Heres more on whats ahead. New video of Bowe Bergdahls handover. The two enemy force he meet face to face, exchange handshakes. The exchange took less than a minute. And he is whisked away. New fallout from obama administrations rules for Climate Change. Cut Carbon Emissions from coal fired power plants by 30 . Here is your meth, dont forget your meth face. Crystal meth is made with things that will destroy you. How devastating is chris contaminatcrystalplet . The facmeth . Ufers blackhawk helicopter swept down to pick him up as part of a Prisoner Exchange. The sole american pow in the afghanistan war, questions mount regarding his conduct in the war and the high price paid for his release. Five taliban leaders including the groups one time chief of staff and deputy minister of intelligence. One told Bowe Bergdahl, dont come back to afghanistan, if you do, you wont come back alive. They are going back to the insurgents side and they are starting fight again. Against the Afghan People and against the Afghan National force. For sure when the five important commanders are coming out from the prison its a kind of a victory for the taliban. For more on the prisoner swap and the taliban video im joined by jack devine. He is the cofounder and president of the arcin group an International Risk and consulting firm. And author of good hunting. Spy masters. How do you arrange a swap like this . We know the qatari government was the mediator but could anyone else have made the switch . This is a top down decision so clearly, this has been in process for a long time, according to everything ive been able to acertain and faild to come the to fruition. Its complicated, vofs senior is senior level of the taliban and qatar government also. Would there be any sort of confidence building measures, points where if either side failed to do something, that the whole thing would be called off . That may be. Are but i think its more likely that both sides at the spoin pof exchange were prepared if it was a setup. In other words i think without a question of a doubt, the americans had considerable backup that if this was a reduce of any sort i think they would have made short order of it. I suspect the taliban on its side had an exit plan, whether it was executable or not. So im not sure about the confidencebuilding measures. I think at a certain point you know, you just have to bite the bullet. And trust that they show up. You know, so i dont think what are the trust the test, its very hard to bring about. Its easier sometimes to just get the deed done than to go through trustbuilding measures. So was it all done at Long Distance or at the end, did the americans who were getting bergdahl have to communicate with the taliban who were turning him over . Because there are reports there was an exchange over whether the taliban would use a green light or white flag to identify themselves. I have no doubt there was a good deal of communication back and forth setting it up. What that looks like it will be some time before we are able to acertain. But both sides probably spend a fair amount of time on the logistics. Does it get turned over to people on the ground. I think on both sides, you go to in the case of the Americans Special Forces that was an elite group that showed up and im sure at the end of the day the taliban leadership had to turn to its rank and file to deliver bergdahl. But would you think the rank and file and the special forces were talking to each other at some point when it actually got executed . No, i dont think so. I think it was done, if i had to speculate, i would say that that was set in place and then a predetermined occasion and both parties showed up. And thats what it looked like on the video as well. What do you make about these bizarre comments about the narrator of the taliban video criticizing being impolite, shake hands with their left hands which apparently is insulting, did anything surprise you how this went down . It would have been a surprise if they didnt try to turn it into a propaganda advantage. And using what i would consider rather petty arguments. When you look the it, it looks pretty straightforward. And im sure there was no deliberate attempt. We were anxious and nervous to get the job done. The taliban video showed u. S. War planes that were circling overtimcirclingoverhead as the taking place. Do you think there were drones or were we hands off completely . I think at the scene we had ample coverage, if anything went awry our special forces would have made short order of it. To not have backup we would have been remiss. You were at the cia for decades. Did the taliban exceed in exchanging max effect for the sergeant . Well, you know this is going to be the key question. When we look in the Rearview Mirror about the price. It does look like a steep price but at the end of the day there was a principle involved in terms of getting back a exuferred soldier. But captured soldier. But i think the key for me and inform others, is will they return to combat, either physically going back to are afghanistan or engage in nefarious affairs in qatar . I think at any point there will be repercussions. But this is a costly exchange and you have to be in the negotiations to fully understand it. But from Long Distance it looks like a steep price. Of course mullah omar called it a victory for the taliban. President obama has said the u. S. Will be keeping eyes on these leaders but reports are that the five taliban have residency permits in qatar, they will live with their families. They will not be treated like prisoners or monitored by u. S. Officials, they are allowed to move freel freely within a yearn qatar and then return to afghanistan. Are these terms giving these leaders that kind of freedom the right thing . Well, id have to see the addendum on just how much freedom they will have. I dont doubt that their families will be living and theyll be moving around the country. And so on. I think it would be very imprudent for qatar government to just turn away and not keep an eye on them for their own sake. I mean you really dont want terrorist groups planning in your country. The second is, if anything goes awry here, if they go back and its negligence on the part of qatar government then i think we would expect there would be political friction over that issue and im putting it rather diplomatically. Theyll do i think what has to be done when you have theres no one here that doesnt understand what these five terrorists are like. And including the government and qatar. Jack devine, thank you for your insights. Thank you. Judging from the political fallout over the bergdahl swap, talking to the taliban may be easier for the white house than talking to congress. Recent Lindsay Graham said that politics may are to blame. Was this release designed to enhance the nowvment withdrawal from afghanistan getting the one flowmen nowmentd announcl withdrawal from afghanistan . Dianne feinstein didnt seem very impressed when the white house finally called her. I did have a call last night from the white house and they apologized he apologized. Are they acknowledging that the law was broken in that apology . I didnt ask for that. Its obvious. We are joined by bill schneider, an Al Jazeera English contributor, at the centrist think tank third way. Professor at George Washington university. And rick wilson who served in the pentagon under then secretary of defense dick cheney. The white house is in major damage control. Administration officials went to capitol hill to brief senators reportedly showing videos of bergdahl where he seemed ill and needed to move quickly. But anything justified the fact that the white house didnt give timely notice of the release of the taliban leaders. You heard Dianne Feinstein said its obviously, they broke the law. Couldnt white house call capitol hill leaders and give them a couple of hours notice . Apparently they did call leaders on capitol hill friday and saturday. But they didnt give them 30 days notice. The Prisoners Health was very much at issue and also the taliban werent going to wait 30 days to make this deal. The president claims that under his authority as commander in chief the constitution authorizes him to do this. And he was justified, legally, in ignoring that congressional law. Rick, the president does claim that the white house had been telling congress for a while that a swap like this could happen at some point quickly. Democratic senator carl levin said, he did say that congress was bipartisan then thinking it was a bad idea. The reality though, the white house only had to provide notice. They didnt need authorization. So it shouldnt as bill mentioned shouldnt the commander in chief have the ability to take quick action in a situation where its believed that theres some urgency . You know theres a lot of questions about the time line here. And this has long been an administration that is very they preach transparency and practice on security. And this has o obscurity. Probation that the executive is pursuing, thats one thing on the legal side. Was it the 30day notice that he session he had to wav waive it l had to happen so quickly, there is a formal and informal process that the National Security briefs the gang of eight, it is not just a courtesy, but it is one of these things that makes washington work. Where theres a trust between the executive ant the legislative side. In this case they could have made these calls and they could have given a time line. Even today it is my understanding they are still refusing to provide exact time lines and exact ticktock how these dealings took place. Harry reid actually just got notice, doesnt dick have if points, these people knew on capitol hill about the Osama Bin Laden raid and now youre hearing feinstein and chambliss, top people on the Senate Intelligence committee, both said the white house called them to apologize but then it didnt really apologize. Whats going on. It seems to be ultimater confusion. Yes, it does, its very murky. The white house claims it was an oversight. Oversight is not quite an apology, set it was done inadvertently. They forgot to notify congress. President obama says he was justified in doing this. The political ramifications and the facts. We dont know all the facts. Was this person a deserter . Do we impose a character test after we extract a prisoner of war . Those havent been examined yet. Some reports say that the white house was blind sided by the negative response that occurred within 24 hours of the announcement. They thought it was going to be a positive story of a returning hero and then they sent National Security advisor susan rice to some of the sunday morning shows and she said this he served the United States with honor and distinction. And by monday when jay carney the Outgoing White House spokesman was asked to comment, he wouldnt go there. Backlash, questions what happened to bergdahl have been fairly wellknown for some time. I frankly knew about the case only he was held captive. I had never heard any of the prior things on the Rolling Stone article, the former allegation. Im a fairly well informed guy. Its shocking that the guys who were with him at the Forward Operating base to give their perspective, and to talk about his character to talk about what they saw firsthand about this guy, and it really is an example of the official story collides with the eyewitness testimony that is now like i said empowered by the fact that that guy cody went on twitter and basically told his story. Which 90 of americans never heard. And it shocks the white house because theyre accustomed to having a press narrative that they deliver through the traditional yee medium, and susn rice gets them in more trouble than possible i think. We had one on our show last night coming out and being very strong, very negative about bergdahl. And it does seem some democrats now think the best defense is a good offense. Nbcs chuck todd is reporting that veterans are accusing bergdahl of swift boating. Do you think thats a good idea . By democrats who say theyre swift boating him without knowing all the facts, we dont know whether the testimony is correct or not. All that has to be investigated. But i will say this i think most of the negative reaction wasnt due to questions about bergdahls character. It was clearly a malcontent. It has to do with whether the Prisoner Exchange was worthwhile. Whether we should have released these five obviously dangerous detainees from guantanamo. Whether that was a reasonable exchange. Thats what bothers people. Orient, Senate Majority leader harry reid says, they are publicizing bergdahls return, when this is the time we should be coming together. Some of the biggest republican critics are the ones who pushed the president in the past to get bergdahl home. As in most things, harry reid is flat wrong. I dont think theres one single american who would say, we should have left bergdahl there. Thats absolutely ridiculous. But barack obama doesnt get ohave a press conference and say yay i done good. Was it appropriate to trade to get bergdahl back as an american soldier . I dont care what his background is, what his past is, we want him back. Did you have to trade the five taliban all stars who were held . Maybe not. These are things the Congress Needs answers to. It is incumbent upon the white house to be very straightforward candid and direct in a way they are not used to doing. It is imperative that we get this before congress sooner than later. To talk about the mechanics of the swap, the time line and the ticktock of this entire thing rather than playing the political game of oh, you hate the pow. Its typical harry reid partisanship. Bill schneider, rick wilson, good to see you both. Sure. Thank you. Now some other stories from around the world. We begin in hong kong where a vigil for 25th anniversary of beijings tienanmen square drew 25,000 people. The chinese also tried to block commemorations through broad censorship of the internet and international media. In the United Kingdom a different kind of protest over a newly proposed law that would allow fracking by oil and Gas Companies under private land without permission. Greenpeace u. K. Responded to the proposal by turning David Camerons home into a fracking site. What a perfect day for fracking. Im so glad David Cameron is not a nimby, letting us frack outside his front door. Thats real leadership. 3,000 year old pants, the oldest pair of pants ever discovered. They were found in tombs along with a whip and other riding equipment leading researchers to theoriestheorize that pants hadn first developed for riding. Need to open their eyes, she joins us next, Christine Todd whitman. Did the nia put premature babies at risk . Risk . Im Joe Berlinger this is the System People want to believe that the Justice System works. People wanna believe that prosecutors and police do the right thing. I think every american needs to be concerned about that. We do have the best Justice System in the world, in theory. The problem is, its run by human beings. Human beings make mistakes. Id like to think of this show as a watch dog about the system. To make sure justice is being served. Wrongful convictions happen, we need to be vigilant. With our personal liberties taken away from us, it better be done the right way. Is justice really for all . You are the socalled war on coal hah president obamas mandate to cut Carbon Dioxide emissions at power plants by thrir 30 by 20. Mitch mcconnell says its a disaster. Nothing even comes close to what this regulation will do to our state and its ability to compete. But as mid term elections and the 2016 president ial race loom large for candidates a former republican administerin adminisf Environmental Protection agency, difficult politics between the gop 2016 nomination. Joining me in the studio is Christine Todd whitman. Currently she is the cochair of the Republican Leadership council which supports fiscally conservative socially tolerant candidates. She is the author of the best seller, its my party too, the battle of the gop and the heart of maicialg. She is president of the whitman strategy group. You have a lot going on. I like to keep busy. Great to see you. Nice to be here. President obama putting out these new rules to cut powerpoint emissions 30 by 2030, mostly affecting coal fired plants. There is a big uproar bipartisan that this is going to hurt jobs. What is your reaction to the proposal. Is Climate Change a real issue . I happen to believe it is. What is that costing us in premature deaths and children with asthma and premature deaths. Is this really going ocrater our economy . Is it going to have an impact on these massive coal producing states . Yes. Do we have an opportunity to create even more jobs . Think about it, nuclear power, no base power that releases no greenhouse gases, found had this country to be enormously powerful and safe, more jobs and more investment in the other forms of green energy. So weve got to look more at the total picture. Even texas for instance which is a heavily coaldependent state has they are saying that they object to the rule but then they are saying but we have a big investment coming in wind. We see a potential for this to grow our economy too, wind and solar. So you have got to look a

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