The fda takes hefty action on obesity proposing to phase out all transfats. The move could prevent 20,000 heart attacks and 7,000 death as year. Consider this while lives will be saved almost 600,000 americans die every year from Heart Disease. So is this just a band aid on a far larger problem . Also the mindblowing sport that requires a lot of courage and not much gear. This is free solo climbing, scaling a mountain without a rope to us nonclimbers. The best free soloist in the world will tell us what its like to climb a mound with nothing but your bear hands and some chalk. And Roman Polanski made a film with racing legend sir Jackie Stewart when they were both in their prime. Why did it not see the light of day in america. Were joined with story. Im antonio mora. We begin with your health and the fda. Most people know artificial trans fats apparently eye are dodg partially hydrogenathydrogenated for you. Now the fda could see trans fats effectively banned from the american diet. It raises levels of bad cholesterol and lowers levels of good cholesterol increasing the risk of a heart attack. They have no known Health Benefit or safety limit. To understand the significance of the fdas proposal im delighted to be joined by founder and president of the Preventive Medicine research institute, clinical professor of medicine at university o univerf california San Francisco, and author of books, the spectrum. Dean, great to have you with us. What did you think when you heard this announcement . How big of a problem are trans fats in the american diet . Well, i was delighted to hear the announcement because as you say there is nothing good that they do, and there are a lot of bad things that they do. Ten years ago i worked with the ceo of mcdonalds to get trans fats out of mcdonalds french fries, chickens and fried oveother things that they had. They said, gosh, it will change the flavor, blahblahblah, but they did it. And we did the same with pepsico, they own fre frito lay, and that was ten years ago. Its taken time and i think trans fats are the one thing that all experts agree on. They really are bad. And there is no reason for them to be in the diet. Now that we know that, im delighted that thousands of lives may be saved by what the fda did. Now there has been a lot of progress because of efforts like yours. According to the fda eliminating trans fats would eliminate 7,000 deaths from Heart Disease every year. But we have 600,000 deaths in america every year from Heart Disease, 7,000 while still important, its only around 1 . Well, for those 7,000 people im sure pretty important. Its a big deal, sure, i think thats an under estimation any way. You dont need trans fats. They were developed to increase the shelf life of products. There is an economic benefit to the people who make them because they can keep their products on the shelves longer. But while they increase the shelf life of the product, it decreases the shelf life of those who consume them. They increase chronic inflammation , which is substation for many forms of cancer. And people have been eating a lot fewer trans fats since the fda required that they be included on food level, and americans consumed 4. 5 grams of transfat back in 2003 but that dropped to only 1 grama year last year. And so the question is is the fda late to the party with this proposal. Well, better late than never. I have admiration for dr. Peggy hamburg, and there is a lot of money at stake. There is a lot of pressure that theyre getting from food manufacturers saying hey wait a minute, we dont want to do that. But im glad they are because it can make a big difference. The reasons transfat levels have dropped because companies have stopped using them in their products. And a lot of other manufacturers have followed their lead. I think thats a good thing. Is that the end all and be all . Of course not. Is there nor that can be done . Of course there is. But its a good start. They had this about the fdas move on al jazeera. Most food manufacturers and most restaurant have already gotten rid of trans fats. Thats the good news. Now these oils are available, and they dont cost more so it will be very easy for other businesses and food manufacturers to make the change as well. So you said that that may be true, but that may be true, and i would like to think that its true but dont under estimate the power of industry to push back. Is there an issue of cost, dean . As you said earlier it does exenextend the shelf life of products. Well, thats the cost. If they have to replace the food more frequently because it goes bad faster it will cost them more. But thats to the advantage of the consumer. If you have to cheese between the profits of the industry and even the survival of thousands or tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands or perhaps even more than that of people, i think that the fda really made the right choice here. And the reality is that there are strands fats and a lot of popular foods, crackers, cooki cookies, frozen pies, all sorts of other baked goods. Microwave popcorn, frozen pizza. The list goes on and on and on. People need to avoid these if they can. Well, its true. Even the labels are a good start. If you have less than a graham of transfat per serving but if youre eating four or five servings of crackers, you can get a significant amount of trans fats without realizing it. Banning it makes a lot of he sense. To put this in context Heart Disease is still the leading killer but we dont need to wait for a new break through we need to put into practice what we already know. Our studies show if you simply change your diet. If you move towards a plant based diet, its not like we need a new break through that we need to put in practice what we already know and this is a good start in that regard. We appreciate your perspective on this today. Thanks, you, too, thanks. Switching gears from the fda to the fbi. On october 1st fbi shut down a black market website called silk road, a place where could you anonymously buy drugs, and launder cash, and it did a billion dollars in business, and incredibly the website is back up and running under a new administrator. Can anything be done to stop these sites were opening up and doing their illegal business in plain site . Here to talk about this from San Francisco is eva, Global Policy analyst with the electronic front tear foundation and skip, coo and president of nourse payments expert on online payments and written about the limitations of Law Enforcement in fighting cybercrime. After all the effort we reported on this a month ago, the fbi went through to find the kingpin of this operation and shut down the website. Not only is it back up and running but many of its competitors benefited from this site going down. Is it futile request. No, i dont think it is. It is very difficult given the circumstances that the Law EnforcementAgency Versus to deal with. Theyre bound by adherence to the proper criminal codes, and then the proceeds of that are do they have the level of information that rises to a proof beyond a reasonable doubt which is in the court systems. Those are not futile gestures, but it does take more effort on the other side of that, which is more preventive issues to see if we cant stop some of this stuff going on on the internet. Rather than playing wachamo. Criminals are using in an effort to owe aggravated the law we need to makes your activities pretty much untraceable. These are legal technologies that have unval uses. There are a lot of legitimate uses which allows people to engage in censorship around the world and communicate anonymously online. And this can be used for legitimate purposes as well as for purposes of committing committing crimes. There is simply no way to make it so that it only works if you have good intentions. The bit coin, a currency of choice on these black market website. They can be anonymously. They only exist in the digital realm. How much is a factor of bit coin . Is that something that should be outlawed . According to the administration they incorporated tighter security measures. In their announcement, they said welcome back to freedom. We have overalle had a security overhaul. Theyre snub their nose at the fbi. De facing the notice that had been placed on the silk road site that the fbi put up when they took the site down. Do you think this Online Market was safer than it was before . I think its difficult to tell. Indeed, if i was a criminal interested in using the online black market i would b. Fbi has a long history of subverting these websites and using them as honey pots to find and track criminals. And were talking about a huge amount of money. More than a billion dollars seems to haveat least allegedly went through silk road. The guy who ran it, and has been arrest ed. They found 15 billion of bit coin on his computer. Its like the drug business outside of the internet is it going to be very hard to stop . Yeah, i think it may be without the ability to actually get inside in a legal manner and monitor and view what the transactional activity is at that level, which is very difficult to do, and absolutely correct, it is a very complex system that is very difficult to defeat, and it does have its moments for noncriminal activity. And should not be blocked. However, if its identified there are opportunities to at least circumvent the use of it. I know the ecommerce environment when we see a tour exit transaction, we advise the merchant that its sending us transaction of whats going on and its up to their discretion whether they accept the transaction or not but yeah, its going to be as bad as the street stuff. What can be done . I dont think there is a whole lot that you can do in the way of technical fixes. This is not a big difference between cybercrime and crime off of the internet. These are simply new ways of committing old crimes. Eva, skip, appreciate you both joining us. Its a fascinating story. Every morning from 5 to 9am Al Jazeera America brings you more us and global news than any other American News channel. Find out what happened and what to expect. Start every morning, every day, 5am to 9 eastern with Al Jazeera America. And to contact the centers and the bullying and hazing for too long have been considered a rite of passage. But now a bullying scandal that puts the entire culture of the nfl league into question. With bullying can the informal one of the most masculine competitive environments in the world continue to ignore the hazing culture in the locker room and the bullying culture it fosters. We go to dr. Harry edwards, sports consultant to the San Francisco 49ers and from maryland, dave ziron, host of edge of sports radio and author of game over. Great to have you guys both with us tonight. Dr. Edwards, Jonathan Martin was hazed as a rookie. He was forced to pay thousands and thousands of dollars for teammates meals and vacations. He was given the nickname of big weirdo. Typical hazing that happens in the nfl that i think people like you guys are aware of the nfl knew about, but this went far further. They went to physical threats, voice mails and Text Messages involving racial statements leading to an emotional break down. How relevant is this in the nfl, and in sports in particular. Ive been associated with the informal for the last 30 years. I was in with the Golden State Warriors for ten years, and i had a lot of dealings with team in the nba. I was with Major League Baseball for five years and then in all of these sports there is some degree of this kind of thing that goes on. This is an extreme case, but it typically runs a spectrum from having people saying the school songs of the colleges that they came from right up through this, and even worse upon occasion. The thing that has changed is that the technology has eliminated the inhouse locker room de portment behavior and so forth and public information. Today nobody can be assured that what happens inhouse is going to remain inhouse. Not even the nsa or the cia much less a locker room in the nfl. So what were witnessing now is a c change in terms of the culturalthe risk of exposure for an institution that has been long embedded in a kind of secrecy. What happens in the locker room, what happens in the building stays in the building. Thats no longer possible. Besides the publicity that social media can provide, were talking more than singing the school songs. Were talking about hair cuts , a mohawk that looked like a penis, were talking about rookies made to pay 10s of thousands of dollars to veterans for trips to vegas and thousands of dollars for dinner. There is no question that thats over the line. But the line is different in almost every locker room. What the public sees on sunday is the sausage. They would not like, i dont think, to see the sausage being made. The kinds of things, the challenges of becoming a professional football player, the practice, the drudgery, the hard work, the injuries, all of that is part of what happens in terms of developing an nfllevel product. Sometimes these kinds of backstage activities that are geared to generate camaraderie, that are geared to generate a kind of team spirit and so forth can go over the line. And almost every locker room that i have known anything about, that line has beenhas been different. And so i think the league will have to crackdown and eliminate all of that kind of activity, because it does nothing for the image where theyre already struggling with the brain injuries and so forth. The exposure risk involved in that is going to cause the league to eliminate all of it right down to singing the old college anthem. Dave, i guess my question is should there be a line at call . Should there be no room whatsoever . If you think about it, can you think of any other profession where any kind of behavior is acceptable . We have a new young man who started working on the show this week. There is no hazing here. Its just not something that would happen in any other profession. Well, i think thats one of the main lines of argument is that the National Football league, it is a bigtime multi billion dollar business. The workers in the National Football league, aka the players, are unionized fork worse. Theyre part of afl cio. Is this a works place or is this a place of camaraderie building, thats something that the nfl will have to answer for itself going forward. A lot of people with this Miami Dolphin story has made comparisons to the film a few good men ordering the code red and doing a top down vertically organized bullying to take a soft player and turn him into a mans man just like a few good men. Its worth pointing out that the marines have had an uniform code banning yo all hazing since 199. The nfl does not have anything in its rule book whatsoever that as an uniform code of conduct that has to do with hazing people which just goes to the way that far too often in the nfl it can resemble an adolescents idea of what war is actually like where players calling themselves soldiers and quarterbacks as field generals as this is the way you build this war mentality in the locker room when other people like Jonathan Martin is saying, wait a minute, i just signed up to play football, not practice war. Something that dr. Edwards said that is absolutely true. Because ive been interviewing players all week about this, its different in every locker room. And because the players have these contracts which are not guaranteed, i mean, youre really on this team at the pleasure of the coach and the general manager. If the coach says this is not going to happen, then its not going to happen. And in some locker rooms it doesnt happen. But when the coach goes like this, hey, go toughen up the players, richie, then its going to happen. Talking about that vertical hierarchy the coaches had told, reportedly told richie incould g incognitoto toughen up martin. Some went as far as blaming Jonathan Martin for letting himself being bullied. This was on cbs sports radio. Richie incognito, absolutely, but i think the other guy is just as much to blame because he allowed it to happen. Youre a grown man. You need to stand up for yourself. Dr. Edwards so many players defending incognito. Is martin going to be hurt more than incognito in the long run. These players are so ensconced and rooted in 20th century locker room culture they cant even see the steam role, the technological steamroller after it has crushed them flat. The day is gone that you can assume that anything that happens in a locker room is not going to be open to public scrutiny. Its interesting that dave brought up the movie because there is a movie that i think is applicable here the violent men. Where glenn ford tells his antagonist played by another great actor edward g. Robinson dont force me to fight because youre not going to like the way i fight. What this individual did, what mr. Martin did was fight in the 21st century way. He had the electronic emails. He had the voice mails and so forth which he simply accumulated. Im quite certain that both mr. Incognito as well as the Dolphins Organization and the league would have preferred that he fought him, fought ric richin the 20th century fashion, hit him in the mouth. Stand up for himself. But he didnt do that. He fought in the 21st century away. He got all of the electronic materials, all the emails, which really stands for evidence mails, put all of those mails and put those in public view. Thats the reality that were dealing with. These guys were talking about, well, he should have stood up for himself. He should have fought him. He should have drew a line. Theyre so ensconced in 20th century culture that they cant see the Technological Team roller that has crushed them flat and is barreling down the road. This is what the National Football league is going to have to deal with. We cant manage and control these Electronic Technologies so therefore we must eliminate the risk that they g