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Transcripts For ALJAZAM Consider This 20130829

Killing 13 people at fort hood in texas has been sentenced to die. Nadal hassan was sentenced earlier today. That sentence will be automatically appealed. On the 50th anniversary of Martin Luther kings i have a dream speech, thousands gathered in washington, d. C. Again. Former president s, celebrities and every day americans were there. Near two weeks, firefighters are till fighting that fire out in california. Well have the latest news coming up at 11 00 here on aljazeera. Theme theme as the u. S. May be drawing closinger to intervention in syria polls vin to show a large majority of americans oppose military action. How can the u. S. Build an International Coalition when its leaders cant build one here at home . Also, twitter, google and the New York Times websites suffer Cyber Attacks. A group connected to the Syrian Government is the likely culprit. How vulnerable is americas cyber infra structure to another attack. The women who worked side by side with the men during the Civil Movement the were given their proper due. We begin with syria, and how an attack that seemed eminent may be less so now. President obama it is he hasnt yet decided to take action. While britain, france and turkey are open to military intervention, the u. N. And arab league are far from a consensus. As we report, average americans and american politicians are just as divided. President obama says hes weighing his options on syria. I have gotten options from our military, had extensive discussions with my National Security team. But building a coalition of the willing is proving very challenging. The use of force without sanction from the u. N. Security council is a crude violation of International Law. Political solution is the most important approach. Its not only internationally where the u. S. Finds little consensus on how to respond, its also at home. I dont think we have the authority either under our constitution or under International Law to get involved in a civil war in syria. We dont need u. N. Corroboration, but it would be nice to have it. Four u. S. Destroyers are on patrol in the mediterranean. The congressman wants the white house to get approval from congress before launching any strikes. This i guess not right. Its not a democratic issue or republican issue. The military intervention in syria would face resistance from the American Public. Polls suggest americans are wary after 12 years of war in iraq and afghanistan. A new survey by Reuters News Agency found 9 of americans think the u. S. Should intervene in syrias civil war. That figure rose to only 25 if reports that syrias government used deadly chemicals to attack civilians are confirmed. The result suggests that if the Obama Administration takes military action against the syrian regime, it would do so in the face of strongly divided opinions abroad and at home. Aljazeera, new york. Right now, russia and china seem prepared to block support for intervention in the u. N. Security council and the british vote that action be delayed until u. N. Inspectors release their report. Can president obama build support overseales and at home to take the sort of military strike he has threatened. With us is michael hirsch, hillaryman leveritt and christopher swift. Thank you all for joining us tonight. Hillary, president obama said wednesday he has not decided whether to launch a strike that would punish the assad regime for last wednesdays gas attack on civilians in the suburbs of damascus, saying any attack would be focused and deceasive but in a clear way. Can any military action be clear and decisive and limited at the same time . Well, the discussion here in washington seems to be just a question of which day the attack is going to take place, so i havent seen any real discussion, any real substantive discussion rolling back any plan to attack syria. The idea whether it can be clear, limited and decisive is something that we have not seen really in history. We saw during the clinton administration, pin trick strikes against iraq that didnt do anything and saw them take out a pharmaceutical plant in sudan that just debriefed citizens of medicine. Michael, do you think with the british sort of backing away that president obama is clearly moving forward . Yeah, i mean, i dont think he has any choice. Its really just a question of when he drew this red line a year ago, the rhetoric coming from senior officials, including the Vice President and secretary of state john kerry in recent days has been unmistakable that we are sure that these chemical weapons were used and consequences must result from that, so if he does not act at this point, he would truly lose all credibility. I think thats one of the reasons why the discussion in washington is more about when and how rather than if. On the other hand, theres a lot of division in washington and president obama struggling to build a coalition to support a serious strike her domestically. Wednesday, Speaker Boehner said he wants the president to explain himself, he said in a letter to the president saying he wants to have the president explain himself to congress, to the American People before taking any action. We have 116 representatives at least now, 98 republicans and 18 democrats who have signed a letter that was sponsored by virginia congressman that calls for the president to consult with congress before launching a strike, and that reads in part engaging our military in syria when no direct threat to the United States exists and without prior congressional authorization would vital the accept operation of powers clearly delynn 80ed in the constitution. The question is should president obama listen to these congressman, consult with congress and get prior approval before military action. Hes not required to under the u. S. Constitution and not even under the war powers resolution. The president has the authority to commit forces in the field for a limited period of time, 30 to 60 days, has to provide congressional notification after the fact, but assuming congress doesnt cut off the fundedding, can sustain those forces indefinitely, notwithstanding the notification. From a policy standpoint, its absolutely vital that the president consult with congress. When congress and the executive are on the same side on something, thats usually a sign that the American People have understood the consequences and the costs and potential benefits of a military intervention. When you have as much fragmentation both between the parties and also within them on an issue, thats a speed bump, an indication that there are issues that need to be thought through, and thats part of the reason why we, like the british, should take some time before moving forward. Thats an important point. Its not between the parties, its within the parties. Thats right. The division is everywhere. While it may be legal to do the pin prick strikes to use hillarys words, lets talk about these mixed signals coming from congress. On the republican side, john mccain, Lindsey Graham released a statement pushing for wider military action in syria than what president obama wants. Carding to the senators, the senators said also in the Republican Party, a rising leader, senator rand paul seems a lot less interested in a military strike, saying among republicans, hillary, do we have a big division there between some of the more old line republicans, although some of the old line republicans are also divided, because Newt Gingrich does not agree with mccain and graham and then weve got the younger libertarians. Whats happening there. Im not it is a generational divide, it is a real determination by senator and powell in particular to take back the Republican Party from the neoconservatives. Rand paul like his father have been determined for years to take the republican back to its conservative Foreign Policy roots that they think were highjacked by you the neoconservatives after 9 11. Newt gingrich had been very supportive of neoconservative Foreign Policy principles and policies but recently said that the iraq war and other failures in Foreign Policy behoove the republicans to ask hard questions like those posed by senator paul. You see this in the lead up to the president ial race in 2016, a real determination by some in the Republican Party to try to take the party back. You mentioned Vice President biden seems solidly behind a strike on syria. Lets listen to what he said on tuesday. The president believes and i believe that those who use chemical weapons against defenseless men, women and children should and must be held accountable. Consulting congress does not seem to be on the top of his agenda now. Back when he was running for Vice President in 2007, he had something very different to say when president bush was talking about possibly attacking iran because of its Nuclear Weapons program. If he takes us to war in iran without congressional approval, i will make it my business to impeach him. [ cheers and applause ] thats a fact. Michael, some hypocrisy there. Theres a big difference between being in the legislative and executive branches, and thats what youre seeing, apologies the fact that a Different Party was in power. Its also, lets keep in mind, a different kind of war. Picking up on what hillary was saying, its important to point out that obama has shown extreme reluctance, more along the lines of rand paul certainly than mccain to intervene in any way in the occurian civil war because of the shadow of iraq, because of at as made over the last decade or so. Theyve made clear despite the very tough rhetoric that whatever they do is going to be limited, its probably going to be a matter of days by the time people decide, that is the American People thinking about it, it will probably be over. Thats probably what obama in tends. We think it probably will be some form of Cruise Missile strikes and other air strikes lasting two or three days. The president does not want to tilt the balance in the civil war because of assad and those who might replace him, potential Islamist Groups linked with alqaeda. They might make matters worse. Is secretary guilty of hypocrisy, as president bush was moving to war with iraq, he wrote president bush did that, but now that hes secretary of state, the tune has changed. He was very powerful saying this week that he didnt leave much room for consulting with congress. He was very clear about what he thought, chris. Again, hypocrisy or no. I wouldnt blame that on secretary of state kerry as much as on James Madison and the whole notion that ambition within each of the different branchion of government is going to sort of keep things in check. Thats our constitutional system. There is no executive Branch Authority thats going to say that congress should have as much power as congress thinks it should have and no self respecting member of the house or senate is going to think that the executive should overstep its authority especially with questions of war. Rather than looking at this constitutional question id like to focus on the strategic question, which is to say what happens after we intervene in syria, whats our plan for the next day, the next week, the next month, the next year. Part of the reason you see so much fragmentation within the political elite in washington and skepticism among the American Public is this doesnt show us the strategy and our tendency has been in the last decade to confuse operations with strategy and ultimately strategy with policy. I want to stay a little further on these divisions, because its a Division Within the administration itself, not just the fact that some democratic congressman are calling or consultations and for him to hold back. Joints chiefs of star dempsey has made it clear he is opposed to american involvement in syrias civil war. Pretty direct conflict between dempsey, kerry, the Vice President and now the president. You see it in europe and the United States, as well, the British Defense forces, the british military, the french military, the German Military are all against this. Military in capitals that are our allies are against this, including our own, because it doesnt comport with reality on the ground. People arent asking the basic question to see the real evidence of whats gone on on the ground. Theres an assumption that it had to be the Assad Government without waiting for the u. N. Inspectors to come back. This is exactly what happened in 2003. You have the military not wanting to get basically hood winked yet again to invade yet another Muslim Country and cause American Real damage in terms of lives answered treasure. Ive got to address the American Public not sold on a syria attack because of what you said, the latest poll had only six out of 10 americans that do not want the u. S. To intervene. 9 said theyd ok it. The number goes up to 25 when you bring in the chemical weapons attack. That is different two years ago, when a strong plurality supported unilateral u. S. Action in libya. Do you think its just this war fatigue that has gotten us here that we just cant support any kind of action in the middle east right now . Its very much so. I also have to say i really disagree with what was just said. I dont think theres a divide between the civilians and the administration and military at all. I think dempsey was laying out obamas position in terms of not intervening in the civil war per se as opposed to punitive strikes which he says now. Michael, he expressed opposition to air strikes and was talking about how much money it would cost and he seemed clearly oh poled to but that was before the administration ginned up over this issue of intelligence showing that the assad regime had used chemical weapons. I dont think youll hear the general saying i oppose punitive air strikes now. This has been a dramatic shift over the last several days in terms of rhetoric theyre using based on what they say is very, very solid intelligence and they are trying to contrast this with the trumped up case against iraq. This is not starting a war with a country like iraq or iran. It is strikes against the regime. I agree they have not made clear the mission. Lets not confuse the issue here. This is not about some huge divide within the u. S. Government. Its just not there. Well see what happens and what support there is for whatever action the United States takes. Really appreciate you guys being with us tonight. Coming up above ground to a hacker war on the internet. How safe is our crucial infrastructure. Well look at the role women played in the Civil Rights Movement. We are fielding your questions. Please join the conversation on twitter ajconsiderthis. Aljazeera america, a new voice in american journalism. Introduces america tonight. Gas. A fresh take on the stories that connect to you. States. Grounded. Real. Unconventional. We spent time with the gangster disciples. Escape from the unexpected. I am a cancer survivor, not last week Al Jazeera America launched a new and needed voice in journalism. The New York Times calls it serious, straightforward news. Accurate, responsible says the Washington Post. And the Baltimore Sun says, instantly engaging and powerful. Al jazeera america, theres more to it. As the cries in syria plays out, rogue hackers have been busy with Cyber Attacks on the u. S. If you tried to go to the New York Times website tuesday to get the latest on syria, you would have been directed to the Syrian Electric Army instead manufacture it has been restored, but twitter accounts and even president obamas social media has been sit since the war in syria began. While it has been a nuisance, the threat of a major cyber attack on critical american infrastructure is a growing concern and clearly on the mind of janet napolitano. Our country will for example at some point face a major sign are event that will have a serious event on our lives, the economy and the every day funking of our society. More must be done quickly. Joining me now to talk about the implication of Cyber Attacks and the threats we might face is a former hacker. He is now a director investigating threats and vulnerabilities. Thanks for joining us. The basic question, lets start with the syrian electronic army. Who are these guys and are they just a nuisance . So far, theyve been attacking these social media sites, but have caused harm. In one case a few months ago, they put out a tweet that talked about explosion at the white house and it caused the stock market to plunge 150 points. Even in their nuisance way, theyve caused harm already. Yeah, what we do know so far about them is that apparently, they are young people, a hacker group based of young people in syria, but probably

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