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"america tonight" is upnext. you can get the latest news on aljazeera.com. see you back at eight and 11 eastern time tomorrow. >> on america tonight. some of the darkest died of our shared history, vicious attacks that defy explanation, and why so many wounds are still left open. >> if what happened then, was happening now, the murders and beatings and whippings that were going on, we would be terrified. in, the fall out over ag ruling that could change how the government tracks terror suspects and lots of others. and the pluses and minussing of keeping tabs on yourself. they call it the quantified self. though it sounds like something else. i do, i sound almost like an alcohol, is that i control it, it doesn't control me. ♪ ♪ . >> good evening, thank you for joining us. tonight we return to a very dark time in american history, and some very deep wounds some that may never be healed. vicious crimes, murders, unspeakable horrors that took place in hidden corners of the deep south. those remain unsolved.f just a few if not closure, we begin with a look at some of those shocking cases with a report from al jazeera's andy gallagher. the archives of the local newspaper a window into this small town's past, but among these pages there are stories some would prefer to forget. >> this is september. >> threen't mos before frank died and this is his advertisement, he ran it almost every week. >> the man who died 50 years ago was frank morris, a successful businessman, he was well liked by the entire community, and they would often let their children play inside his shop. that they say is reason enough for the ku klux klan to target him. >> as he ran for help, he left broaddy footprints on the road. four days later he died from his burns. >> all facts that weren't clear, until years were investigating of his death, he pieced together what happened that night. what he found shocked him. >> but the more you dig, the more you realize there are really bad people here. and that if what happened then were happening now, the murders and beatings and whippings that were going on, we would be terrified. >> what is happened here isn't unusual, across the deep south, there are still around 70 unsolved murder cases most of them brutal, and racially motivated. lee, who remembered frank morris well, there is some comfort that his murder has not been forgotten. >> at least, somebody said let's find out what happened to this man. and who was responsible, and now the world knows who frank morris was, they know what kind of person he was, and have some idea of who was responsible. >> despite fresh experts to investigate these close cases it is unlikely many people will be brought to justice. those left behind that may be the only justice they get. >> across the river here, cliff topp walker was killed the same year, and 50 years later, his family is still seeking closure. >> in the back woods of mississippi, two return to a dark place from their childhood. >> we lost our father here. my mother lost her husband here. and today is an opportunity too say daddy, we still seeking the truth. >> in 1964, kathryn and shirley's father was driving down this road when he was ambushed by a group of white men and shot. these women were barely teenagers, you located me to bring me a letter stating you are closing the case, yet you never took time to meet with our family. >> spent year investigating the walker murder, and claims the fbi agents assigned to the case, didn't appear to have the resources or will to investigate the killing. s in an opportunity to wage the war on america's demons. that had not been delivered and the opportunity to bring that to bear, on this history is diminishing with it every day. >> the fbi's headquartering now in charge of the celled care, adam lee says the aim is to prosecute, but even when that doesn't happen, he says the project is still a success. >> in terms of putting evidence together, putting those stories together that we have achieved something, we have achieved something, to tell the tail about exactly what happened. and hopefully bring some closure to the families of the victims. >> since the cold case began in 2006, no one has been brought to justice. although the fbi said they are confident prosecutions will follow. there is a overwhelming sense of disappointment. the cases weren't taken as seriously as perhaps they could have been. >> many in the deep south are an open wound. but for some, it is a wound that will never heal. >> we want the world to know we will never stop. >> so we can't say it is justice. >> it will never be served. investigative reporter joins us now, and jerry, i have to tell you, i don't think that introduction goes far enough to tell people who you are. over so many years you have been involved in helping to put to rest so many cases we have heard so much about. from the little girls in birmingham, eve rest, all the people involved in these assassinations. and so i'm left wondering this, and i think a lot of people are, why can't these cases be closed? why is there no justice that has been done? >> well , frankly, there was several things going on. one is at the time, the will was the opposite direction, you had the white citizens council, and others putting up for instance a member of the citizens council, and they literally funded his entire defense, hen't convicted offense tried twice, but he wasn't convicted until 1990 uh four when he was dried again. >> for the murder. >> so you have those things happening at the time, some of these cased weren't investigated at all. and so that makes it extremely difficult. now to come back, and to try to investigate them. >> wees that a fame jury of the police, or a broader failure of the community, to not want to cover all this up? >> yeah i think it was a broader failure, you had these all white jerseys no african-americans were allowed to serve on juries. many other states in the deep south. and knowing mississippi until i believe 1968. so those are the kind of things that happened. the law itself compared to deprive african-americans and others of justice. >> really being led by journalists that seems remarkable, why would it be reporters that have to bring these, instead of investigations and communities? >> well, it's -- the your honor lis have been shining the light, and obviously it's up to the community whether they do these cases or not. the additional statistic that didn't mentioned earlier, there have been 24 convictions since 1989, before the fbi kind of created its cold case unit. so it took place before the formation, the formal formation of a unit that was dedicated. we thought we all worked on cold cases decided that we would try to you nate, and share resources, for instance, i have gotten quite a number of fbi records and i have been happy to share them with my colleague whose are working on different cases and so we share information, we share ideas. we don't consider ourselves competitors because we work on different cases and there's literally no way to get to all of them. so we try to pick the cases that we can get to. and work on. >> i will note here, following your work, over the years i know that you have been called pretty much every bad name in the book, at some point in some of the stories you have brought to light. and i wonder, you have never shied away, never been afraid, for yourself. >> well, i think it would be not true to say there's never been any fear. i think that's a part -- as martin luther king once said, if you haven't found something worth dying for, than you haven't -- then you aren't really living. we should be willing to stand up, for whatever it is, truth, or justice, just about exposing truth. and i think that's why i really am very grateful to be a part of the university. >> thank you very much for being with us, it's an honor to talk to you. investigative reporter. after the break, clues in, what could be a watershed commission. to keep an eye on trouble. >> evey sunday night, join us for exclusive, revealing, and suprizing talks with the most interesting people of our time. this sunday, >> i spent my whole life thinking about themes and thinking about how to structure movies, so this is highly unusual. >> the director of the sixth sense, says there are five things we can do to fix education in america >> the united states has education apartheid, that's the facts... >> talk to al jazeera with m. night shayamalan sunday at 7et / 4pt on al jazeera america on techknow, our scientists bring you a sneak-peak of the future, and take you behind the scenes at our evolving world. techknow - ideas, invention, life. us safe and keeping theng government out of our business. on the right and the left, shared a federal judge's ruling that the government big sweep of home and data records is probably unconstitutional. case involved in nsa program which has picked up records on millions of calls and texts made by ordinary americans. the judge said it almost certainly violated constitutional protection, the fourth amendment against unreasonable searches. former nsa contractor first exposed that program. he said he has more information to offer. he says he will give brazil the details in exchange for asylum. the white house this is not going to happen. >> what i can tell you is that mr. snowden, has been accused of leaking classified information. is he faces felony charges, he should be returned as soon as possible, where he will be accorded full due process and protections. that agent our portion, and it has not changed. >> tough questions about the future of the data mining program. those include google, apple and twitter, for those companies and the nation's security chiefs the judges ruling could be a real game changer. for spy operations. >> we are joined now by retired colonel who is a former deputy training director, also with us is elizabeth boytin who is the co director of the center, i want to begin with you, give us some perspective on how significant this is. >> it is a watershed decision, this is the first case to say that what the insa is doing is probably unconstitutional, the case is in the preliminary fazes and so it is not a final ruling but the judge said that he signals very strongly that he was going to find -- >> his language was quite firm. >> very very firm. and he said that he is going to find the collection of telephone records in bulk unconstitutional, this is very significant. because up until now, court whose have been looking at the collection of telephone records have applied in 1979 supreme court case, to say that people do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in their telephone records. and what this case said was that case doesn't hold any more. changes have been so significant in technology, in the circumstances, that we can't really on that case. >> what would the long term effect be. >> the practical effect is that nsa has to change the way it collects this kind of data. that is probably a good thing operation nally, personally i believe it is important when you go for law enforcement type issues or go for any type of surveillance, that you focus that effort on the targets that you really want to collect again. >> otherwise you aren't doing it very efficiently. >> exactly. >> when you look at what the soviet union did, they collect add lot of data, and at what point in time, the director was asked do you think -- he was asked by congress, do you think that all the information that the soviets are collect willing actually result in us being compromised and the answer was no, they are collecting so much information, they don't even know where to begin. if it does, if it get tuesday much data, and doesn't analis it properly, there could be a lot of false leads and also situation brass the operational focus is diluted and you want to be focused on the types of things that you want to go after. and not people that are not after -- >> is there any evidence that taking a wide brush, the biggest value qume cleaner hose you can find, is there any evidence that it has stopped any sort of acts of terrorism? >> now the difficulty they have, is when we go in and say we use this particular type of source. and bring somebody to justice, that is automobiles only partially true, because there's so many sources that are used, for example, you will have an informant. you will have a wire task that is specifically against that person. you may have specific interintercepts once you know exactly which person to go after, but if you don't have those things, then you start with one area which is in this case the meta data collection of the telephone records. and tenure narrow it down. >> elizabeth, on this motion of look, technology we have all acknowledged has changed dramatically over this time, perhaps the challenge of this pros control is that you can't keep up with it, and maybe the initial motion was look, we don't know what else to do, let's just collect all the data we can. >> that sounds exactly right. and part of the problem with we have had trouble. courts are very slow to reaction, and constitutionally that's just how they work. it takes years to get through any one case. and congress, tends to rely for questions like what kind of privacy we are talking about, on existing precedent, which then becomes outdated. so woe don't really have a good mechanism to keep up with technology. this will happen again. >> what we wonder is how intruce i is this, really, to each of our lives. how much am i exposed because i use my texts, because i send emails out of the country? >> you know, from my standpoint, you aren't exposed very much at all. now the fact is that your meta data is collected in other words the basic information is to -- the number that you dials. the location of that none before, your location, that information is there, but they will not be accessed under the current program. that you are connected to somebody else. that is involved in terrorist activities for example. so in other words, the data is stored in a data warehouse, and then it is accessed when -- let's say you are talking to and he is a known terrorist, then at that particular point, then your data would be accessed and some degree of reasonable suspicion, that you have connection. >> in this case we are only talking about two individuals but there are other challenges to what they are doing? >> there are. several other lawsuits that are on going, and there are groups including right wing and left wing groups, gun rights advocates, and social justice who are saying that they have been effected. because they have been chilled in their activities in their ability to express themselves, through their telephone calls, and through their communications out of fear that they could be a target. and i would also say that in terms of whether average people have to worry about whether or not they will be effected, even though the government is supposedly only yearing the database, or supposed to only query the data base. kit then go three hops out from that one number bear and gather contact from everybody that the suspected terrorists talk, to everybody they talk to, and everyone they talk to. which sweeps in millions of law abiding americans. not to mention the fact that there is ample evidence. certainly something keeping a watch on. thank you very much. thank you for your informing, also with us elizabeth, and the brenden center for justice. >> thank you. >> coming up on america tonight, keeping tabs on yourself. >> we feel like we get a sense of odderrer and control for our own health, and i think that makes us feel more confidentble. does the quantify self-add up. for enforcements int loss months. >> will the lifeline for ukraine get down protests. moscow will give them $15 billion in loan guarantees and a business discount on natural gas, it is not clear what the president is giving in return. and that big budget deal cleared a big hurdle. most likely late wednesday, bipartisan support, the government should head off and ease those sequester cuts as well. so you know the saying there's power in numbers, well, increasingly, more information than you can possibly imagine about your own life, is being sought out by people trying to quantify themselves it may sound obsessive, but those who do it say the technology to track themselves is keeping their lives on track. here is america tonight's. >> is trying to maintain balance in his life by staying fit. >> that correlate with almost every act he performs. every moment, no matter how small in his life. >> what compelled you to start this. >> i think curiosity. >> what did you do? >> start add tab, and just for every day just put in how many miles i ran, and if i went to the gym, how much work i did at the gym. and about a month or two later i think pretty early on i started tracking sleeping as well. >> his obsession with monitoring his life has since multiplied. there are now graphs that reflect the number of alcoholic drinks he has consumed, book pages he has read, his blood levels his commute time, how much he meditates, how many hours he is exposed himself to the sun. the san francisco resident is recently engage sod there's any category titled courtney. there he can survey the length of their relationship, their favorite restaurants, their inmassey. >> this sounds like o ccd. and if it isn't ocd then it's something approaching it, or different. a new strain perhaps. >> the difference between what i do, and ocd is that -- and this is i sound almost like an alcoholic, but is that i control it, it doesn't control me. i want to understand the cadence of my life, and manage what that is, and if i'm not sleeping enough, not being active enough, drinking too much, whatever it is, just like gently nudge myself back to whatever the range that i want to be in. i am going to live my life one way or the other, the question is how directed am i. they already attract personal health. the weight, dyer, or exercise. >> that measures my steps. >> maria bennett isn't your typical self-tracker, most are young, male, tech enthusiasts, but she says she has always been an early adopter of technology, and something of a natural at recording data, growing up she documented her activities in a journal the book she read, the places she traveled. what she couldn't have known then, is how easily emerging technology would help her track and resolve health issues. my knees were just killing me, i could barely walk up the stairs. >> i was stairing down at a row of medications so i took my health very seriously, in order to change my life. >> is it pays off, my cardiology was just so impressed by my blood work, and he said you know, if everybody did what i did, healthcare costs would be nowhere near what they are these days. people who have made a lifestyle out of atracking their personal data. giving a number to almost every aspect of their lives. so those obvious things like fitness, health, and nutrition, to facets you wouldn't immediately regard as quantity final, moods, habits, even love. i spent more than 50% simply surviving. so that is sleeping, eating, is other stuff. >> and dozens more convening by the thousands at international conferences from africa to asia, latin america to eastern europe, q.s.ers are growing. >> one it is just the evolution of our technique. >> gary wolf is the founder of the movement, he coins the term a decade ago as an editor. there's tens of millions of people today that are tracking where they are going, their metabolism, their medicine, they symptoms, there movements there will be hundreds of millions in a blink of an eye, and they will be tracking a far bigger range than we can imagine. >> we stand on scales to get our weight. we have been tracking ourselves for a long time. >> i do think that what ice going on, in the world of the quantifies self, is based on some fundamental human practices and desires and needs to take stock. self-observation with new tools. >> many of the devices q.s.ers use allow them to share their personal data with others. that can enginedder a sense of community, and even support from like minded strangers but some say this can inhibit people from living in and enjoying the moment. >> it yours sources our memory, if we have the gadgets, the pictures the numbers we are apt to pay less attention to the world. >> you have to start to wonder whether this obsession with seeking data becomes so strong is it actually interfering with the way that people like to go about living their lives. >> if we start to track ourselves we feel like we get a sense of odderrer and control. for our own outcomes. the more variable you measure, the more you will see them just by chance. you looked at yoga. >> gary wolf is well aware of the criticisms but says the long term benefits of the engaged self-trackers far outweigh any problems. >> the overall benefit of people, having practiced taking measurements act themselves will lead to overall better care even when they are interacting with experts. >> a self-avowed q.s.ers is taking the movement one step further, he is the founder of shadow, a mobile application meant to help you remember and record your dreams. >> i was blown away by the concept of dreaming the idea that for one third of our lives our bodies are suspended and we are free from the limits of reality. >> i think you get from analyzing your dreams is just deeper understanding of yourself. you know, in it's very -- it's very different for different people. for me i can then look at this data, or have an interest thing to talk about at a dinner party. >> we want to hopefully plug them in, so that you can see how in real time what -- how is the data kind of effecting you on a subconscious level? >> wolf insists it is not about the gadgets or the services. >> quantified self is about the personal value and the personal meaning that you can get from your own data. when the focus is not just on finding answers but on being able to ask your own questions that's when you are dealed with a quantifies self. >> just to give you a sense of how fast this is all evolving at this point, we spent considerable amount of time. if you are making a nike fuel band, these are devices that track everything from your sleep, to the number of steps you take in a given day, or the calories you burn, that in some subtle but significant way you have arrived because you are basically signaling to the rest of the public out there, that you are engaged, that you are proactive and essentially that your goal oriented. that you go about your business in the world with a healthy dose of self-consciousness. >> all right, but michael, you know, what you have told surveillances these folks have a tendency to be guys and perhaps geeky. what else do we know as we look at the numbers on this? what else do we know about these folks? >> well, that's right. the initial adopters of this were men tech oriented late 20's, early 30's. essentially people that describe they wants as type a personalities. they are very ambitious they want to control the outcomes. the movement is attracting a broader swath of the general public. this' a sub category that addresses women's needs specifically. but also, we talked to people who would never narrowly define themselves as type a personalities. people who say essentially, look, i recognize that i had an issue, or problem in my life, and it made sense to me, that given this community of like minded people, and the technology out there, that might be accessible to me, those two things might help me resolve what my issues are. so perfectly ordinary people are taking up this movement. >> i considered getting a device of this kind, and then i thought i don't really want to know that much about myself. so i wonder is this a trend that will be combined to california, silicon valley, or is this something that could have a widespread impact? well, it's already having a wider impact, there are conferences all around the world. so lowly and surely, even the ground zero was in silicon valley, we are finding that there are large amounts of question people around the world who are now tapped into 24. when you spend time with quantify self-folks they believe that they are really captures part of the -- the dominant school of thought essentially, that influences our society at large. they believe there is this sense around the world, that everywants to better themselves. at least be a better verl of whow yo are. look, i have to tell you, i learned about a week ago how to operate my mike roy wave, so it's no a technically gifted person, and i will sound a little bit like i'm drinking the lemonade here, but when you think about self-help, nutritious, health, all these aspects, together make up a multibillion dollars industry. and then a movement that allows an individual to essentially tap into all of those various silos of our lives, it's hard not to imagine that at some point in the future, this is going to become the new normal. and the question is, whether or not as individuals we will have multiple devices, whether we will have one device. the question is when it is going to happen. is it going to be ten years or 15, or 30 from now. >> we will see if it all adds up, right? booking it, the final boards call for those running up and across the miles. you have stacks of boarding passing here. houston. >> yeah, that was on that back and forth running. i have never been to san jose. >> what is mileage running? >> basically it's people looking for the best deal, so if'm are a little bit short at the end of the year, they will look for a good deal out of their home airport where they can fly the mile for a low price, and bump up to the next chair status. >> giving a move on, we will explain the method to this madness. 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