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ALJAZ The Bottom Line February 25, 2023



today. they feel that well, they hope at least that the elections will be free and fair are. there have been a different election observation teams that we have encountered throughout the city today, including the e u. election monitoring team that was here at this location. we're at a school in a central, a boucher where voting is taking place right now. you can see the line of people, pardon me, behind me, waiting to cast their ballot at this hour. so people are hopeful that the system will actually be able to conduct a free and fair election this time. the you and the u. s. have imposed new sanctions on russia for its war and ukraine. the measures in to prevent the kremlin from funding its military, as well as blocking access to the latest technology. ukraine's president says he plans to meet chinese leadership in thing to discuss a piece proposal by basing china released its plan for peace between russia and ukraine on friday. that followed talks between top chinese diplomats one year and president vladimir putin. beijing is calling for an end to western sanctions on russia. st. yup. first of all, i planned to meet teaching ping and believe this will be beneficial for countries and for security in the world. we have a large tray turnover with china. the issue is not only the war, the issue that we are states that are interested in maintaining economic relations . i really want to believe that china will not supply weapons to russia. and this is very important to me. this is a priority because i missed the writing security council. the russian ambassador interrupted a minute's silence called for by the ukrainian foreign minister to mark the 1st anniversary of the conflict. i kindly ask everyone to observe minutes of silence in memory of the victims of the aggression. i think mister president with love will come. the representative of the russian federation has asked for the floor to make a statement. but you put it to the mistake mister president, we are getting upon our feet to honor the memory of all week temps. what has happened in ukraine starting in 2014? all of those who perished, all lives are priceless. and that's why we are rising to honor the memory of them all. the death toll from devastating earthquakes into care and syria has now passed 50000. rescuers in northern syria, continued to dig through the rubble of buildings destroyed 2 weeks ago. many families are searching for the bodies of missing relatives. authorities, inter kia a tearing rubble and affected areas are remarkable, has more from 10 am on rush into kia. emergency teams are starting to clear the rubble on this is going to raise more concerns in the near future because the air, as you can see many areas behind me as thick with pollutants. and there are concerns of talk scenes, a least apart from the rubble. the authorities are things that they have been distributing masks of people and that are the same time they have been asked people in color my, my last not to use tap water and instead they have been offering them bottle water . ah, health authorities of been a to a hospital awhile ago. the been talking to doctors that they say that they have put all the measures into place. but there are concerns. the are concerns about contaminated water, the concentration of people in different areas that could be conducive to an outbreak of fluids and other related disease. at least 3 people have died as a result of a massive winter storm raging across the united states. more than 2 meters of snow is forecast or parts of california. los angeles has got its 1st blizzard warning for 30 years. it's already knocked out part of nearly a 1000000 homes and businesses. major roads have been closed on hundreds of flights have been cancelled. and those are the headlines. the news continues here, allows either bob to the bottom life. good bye. ah, i have steve clements and i have a question. is there any way to end the war in ukraine? let's get to the bottom line. ah, exactly one year ago, all out war broke out between russia and ukraine at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives. but it's a deceptive anniversary, because since ukraine's independence from soviet russia, more than 30 years ago, animosity had been rising between the 2 neighbors. and there's been a low level war going on since russia annex crimea. in 2014, the conflict is divided the world into 2 main camps. one of them is strongly anti russian, and the others more ambivalent for many leaders in the west, including u. s. president joe biden. the idea that borders and countries are sacred and no one should be allowed to erase them, is worth fighting for the rest of the world takes a more nuanced approach, citing hundreds of years of shared history between the 2 nations, ukraine and russia. but with total military victory for either side being highly unlikely, and no negotiations on the table. is there any way out of this war? how many more anniversaries of misery is the world going to mark and for ukraine and the west? what does victory even look like? today we're getting 2 views on the war and ukraine, one from moscow, and one from washington in a moment will be speaking with andre cartoon off director of the russian international affairs council. but we'll start with admiral john kirby coordinator for strategic communications at the national security council in the white house who's just returned from poland, where he was with president biden. and ma kirby. thank you so much for joining us today. my question to you after the president's comments in, in poland, is our americans hearing what our stakes are in this conflict in crisis? i believe they are, and of course, that was the main purpose of the president. going to keep this week as well as to poland and delivering a major address there in warsaw to make plain to the world, certainly to the american people. but, but to the whole world. what's at stake here with the war going on in ukraine and particularly going forward now there's been an incredible unity in support for ukraine over the last year. sadly, it's been a year and now we're heading into our 2nd year. hope it won't last much longer, but we've got to stay resolve. we have to stay united and the president wanted to make that case directly to people all around the world of admiral house foreign affairs committee. chairman michael mccall is asking for the administration to do more to give more lethal weapons to give longer range missiles to, to, to amp off. essentially, our military support in the side. there are other republican say do far, far less in fact do nothing that what we invest in ukraine is distraction from needs in america, adding to the debt, etc. i guess my question is, what's your directional course in dealing with republicans on this conflict? i think i'd make a couple of points 1st is that we have really had continued by cameras and bipartisan support for the kind of things, the kinds of things that we are trying to do for ukraine in it's we all get wrapped up in the weapons in the systems but it's, it's, it's beyond that, it's also the humanitarian assistance, the financial assistance. and when you talk to the, the new house leadership, you'll hear pretty consistently from them like german mccall. you mentioned that speaker mccarthy that they recognize the stakes here and they want to continue to support ukraine. so we're taking that for granted of course. but the number of republicans who are in the opposite camp are small and they are not in the, in the, in the key leadership positions. we're going to continue to work with congress going forward. we have enough resources to get us through much of this fiscal year through 2023. and if we need to go back to congress for more, hopefully we won't, hopefully it will be over. but if we have to, we'll do that and we can do that with a confidence that again, leadership on both sides. they are very supportive of this number 2. and this is not unimportant as we recognize that there are even there are american citizens who are like, likewise asking many of these questions about continued support for ukraine. and i would say that most americans understand the idea of independence. it's a founding ideal here. it's something near and dear to all our heart, our hearts. and it's important to remember that that's what ukraine is fighting for . it's very independence. mr. putting is not backed off. his strategic goals of subsuming ukraine into russia. he still wants ukraine is another province. so it's fighting for the very idea of independence, something that all americans can understand. and number 2, if we've waiver, if we flag, if mr. poot and succeeds, we don't know what he'll go after next. and the cost in blood and treasure through the united states, as well as to our allies and partners, could be exorbitantly much higher than what it has been in terms of the resources we've applied to help you create over the course of this year. me ask you a question and i'm not entirely comfortable with, but you know, we have a lot of folks that are defining this conflict as not just about ukraine. it's about the future of the norms between nations there, imbuing it with lots of sort of larger order questions. i guess my question is, if so much is at stake, why do we fear so much escalating it if the stakes are that high? because i think we could all understand steve as bad as this war has been for the people of ukraine and cranes, cities and towns their children. that if it escalates and becomes what mr. prudent has claimed it has been falsely since the beginning, a war between the united states and russia, or the western verses russia, or nato versus russia. if it escalates to that level, it's not only going to be much worse for the people of ukraine than it already has been. it will be much worse for the europe, ian continent, our allies and partners, potentially the world. it is important that we do not speak conflict with russia, and we don't by end of propaganda that we're already at that level. because again, i think we can all understand that. the stakes of that kind of conflict would be just exorbitantly worse for again, people of ukraine are our partners and the american people. from your perspective, what are the requirements for an off ramp or an end game in this? i know you've basically said in the past that vladimir putin could end this tomorrow by pulling the military out, going home and end of story. but on a realistic basis, is there an end game or something that we might be looking for as we move forward to this next year, where there's something other than a sent another never ending war? we all want this word and as you rightly said, we should get in today and we do the right thing. clearly. stevie shows no signs of, of being willing to do that. and so president is put forth a 10 point proposal and he is called for a just peace. we are working with his team to see how that proposal can be operated, analyzed, and there's still a lot of work being done there. but for negotiations to occur, both sides have to be willing to do it and both sides have to be willing to do it in good faith present. zalinski has rightly said at this time, he can't see himself getting to the table given what mister prudent continues to do inside his country. and for mister bruin's part, he obviously is interested in any kind of end right now or negotiated solution as he continues to bomb ukrainian. cities knock out the heat, turn off the power, try to brutalize ukraine. people steal their young children and bring them off to camps inside russia and of course, continue to prepare for what looks to be more offensive operations in the spring. so unfortunately, sadly that the environment's just not conducive right now to a negotiated settlement. what we want to do stephen is, and you've heard the president say this, we wanna help ukraine's forces succeed on the battlefield to continue the success that they have seen in the last year. so that if and when president ruined sky is ready to sit down with president putin, he can do so with the wind at his back. he can do so with it from a position of strength because that's what he's going to need to carry those negotiations forward. to some, to some level of success. you know, i talked to many of your colleagues john about who've had meticulous attention on china and what it's doing or not doing. and over this last year, i guess a good story is that the u. s. is assess that china has not been a back stop in key technologies in military provision for russia, but there is now concerned that it might go over that line. do you worry that china, that we have intelligence that is now seeing a shift in the chinese, russian, i guess, partnership or relationship in a way where we will soon be real adversaries to both of them tied together? is that a concern of yours? it is, we want china to join the rest of the international community and condemning this invasion and not, and holding mr. brewton accountable, and certainly not doing anything that allow his military to be able to continue to prosecute this war against the ukrainian people. now we have not seen them devote lethal assistance to the russian military, but we have seen some warring indications that they might be considering that sort of move. and i think we can all agree and all understand that, that, that is not only not going to be good for the cranium. people if russia can gain more lead to assistance from china. but it could actually make this, could escalate the conflict beyond what it already is and nobody wants to see that . so we said that we've seen these indications. we'll see and watch what china decides to do. but it is concerning to us that the china continues to this to appear to deepen this relationship with, with russia at a time when russia should be made even more of a prior than it already is. when mr. newton should be held to account and when his and where his troops should not be inside ukraine fighting again against the cranium people. so we're, we're, we're certainly worried about what we see on the diplomatic front between china and russia. right now. i know this is, it is an odd question, but i, i guess my question is, are we doing enough? you've met presidents lensky now, number of times you, you've been on the ground there. you've been with president in poland. what is missing? that can help give the lensky more tools than he has today? well, president sky has been unabashed, as you know, stephen asking for additional resources and certainly having them show faster and we are working as hard as we can and lock step with him and his military to give him a more advanced capabilities. so that so that he can again, continue to succeed on the battlefield and, and that's support has evolved as the war is evil. when the tanks were starting to roll towards key, everybody was talking about the need for stingers, and javelin anti tank missiles and, and of course we, we raised those to the front so that ukraine could win the battle of chief. then in the spring, when mister bruton decided he was going to concentrate on in the don boston in the south, a pool is troops out of key and car keys and elsewhere. it really became an issue of long range fires artillery. and these vaunted high mars the advanced rocket systems that we provided to give the ukrainian, the cranium military. the ability to strike deep behind russian lines inside ukraine than air defense, obviously rose to the floor as mister putting shift attack and tactics yet again, and started raining down cruise missiles on civilian infrastructure. and we're, we're now working to get them a patriot battery and there'd be more air defense capabilities coming forward here . this week. you heard the president talk about that in poland yesterday. and now of course, we're waiting since a waiting. that's not a good word. we are watching as russia prepares for what will likely be offensive operations in the spring. and so we are taking advantage of that time to train ukrainian battalions outside the country on what we call combined arms maneuver. so this is opened by fighting an open train using armor artillery infantry all integrated with air defense to help you cranium units make their own offensive operations possible. come spring. so we are not only evolving with the fight as it evil. we're trying to get ahead of where we think things are going to be in the weeks and months ahead. again, all designed to help the korean army succeed on the, on the battle. or admiral john kirby spokesman for the us national security council . really appreciate you joining us today. thank you. thank you, steve. and now we turned to moscow, where were talking with andre cartoon off director general of the russian international affairs council. from your perspective in moscow. what is the topography of the g, a strategic consequences of this war looked like from your perspective a year into it? i think i've read to limit myself to just one of the room describe the eliminate. also, because i would say the rug would be all the size of the complex demonstrated secular resilience and their ability to sustain the initial position is to call you they reached out to do their boss and america meters to resist their actions. it came up like rational because they're actually the system did not load. it does not collapse. the political operation did not take over, which is student control. it is related to the work that we've also demonstrated. a lot of them in making and pressure on ration. and finally, we can talk about the resilience or thereafter. and they're willing to take sides, you know, the carpet and to configure the carpet to be level out of the us metric problem. what you've just described are conditions that can simmer for a lot longer. you've kind of talked about all the different parties. no one necessarily getting a knockout blow in this continuing. i'm sure you heard, as i did many speeches at the munich munich security conference, saying that what's at stake in this conflict is essentially, you know, the, the norms of the liberal order in the world. you know, the, the fate of democracy in endowing this conflict with lots of other issues, from russia's perspective. and i'm not expecting you to be russia, but from russian's perspective. what are the stakes involved that we ought to be listening to? well, this connecticut and i think it was a day, is that it is a special challenge to russia. russia, has it conflict, not with that would be cool too cool collector. and the collector allegedly committed to destroying or 2 or after all the medical world. that's why it is so difficult to look for a compromise. it is so difficult to live or because the concept is perceived as a something, or we should be directly connected to the future, russia. evelyn independent country as a society, if you wish, as a civilization are we basically in, you know, the draft of history seeing the influence of both russia and the united states go through serious transformation. and we may be as unaware of it as moscow, maybe as unaware of it. sure that we will see a confirmation or in the united states just to look at who now our 2 countries are in their seventies. these generations will not stay power forever. and i will be some very significant generational change. i think that maybe in a couple of years ago, new people in a different perception. so all the rules or their countries are all in the rules on the side. so we should also keep in mind that other countries are getting stronger . other countries are getting more active. other countries want to, to become active in the national system and there is no way our actual, the united states or anyone else can stop it. so the roll will be very different in a couple of years. what was, you know, and maybe the only line it in this a are a cloudy atmosphere th

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