Transcripts For ALJAZ Talk To Al Jazeera Michelle Bachelet

ALJAZ Talk To Al Jazeera Michelle Bachelet August 27, 2022

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After the head of the Federal Reserve said forceful action would continue to combat inflation. Jerome power promised the Federal Reserve would use the tools at his disposal and that high Interest Rates would continue for some time. Those a headlines coming up next talk to answer. One day i might be covering politics to run the next. I might hear of i crossing from serbia to hungry to whats most important to me is talking to people understanding what theyre going through so that i can convey the headlines in the most human way possible. Here at al jazeera, we believe every one has a story worth hearing. With mitchell bachelors has constantly been ranked among the wells most influential women ever since she became she days 1st made president in 2006. Her fight against sexism and full womens white lead to her serving in the u. N. As the 1st under secretary general and executive director of you and women off to her president ial term finished in 2010. Bachelorette was tasked with leading, supporting, and coordinating work on gender equality and womens empowerment at global regional and country levels. 3 years later, she returned to her homeland when she was again elected president , following her 2nd president ial term. But let to con responsibility many consider one of the most complex International Diplomacy serving as un high commissioner for human rights. It means she bears responsibility for promoting and protecting human vice. Guaranteed under international law. Her 4 year mandate and on august 31st. So what legacies bus lead leaving behind how she failed or succeeded as the world leading human rights advocate . The un high commissioner for human rights mitchell bachelor talks to Al Jazeera Mitchell bachelor, the United Nations high commissioner for humor white. Thank you for talking to angela. I, commissioner, this is going to be an opportunity for us to talk about politics and humor, whites globally. But let me start by asking you about you controversial visit to china. Hill rights organizations said that you were too soft on the Chinese Government. On the very issue of the alleged atrocities committed against the muslim work, as in ching, jung region, how do you respond to those accusations . Of all, some people has said that has been a mistake that they said that i disagree with that because i was able to raise humorous issues directly with china and senior government officials. And it was the 1st time in 70 years for you and humor. And she so knowing that access to a 2nd that would be limited. I also before i went to china, met several and for me that he needs and i found it would be outside the country, but also many members of see the society. And i think that you have to engage with member state and you have to listen and you have to speak and you have to race. All the concern i did for his other research, i say, explain in my english statement. And as you know, and the me time were having working in assessment on the situation is again and, and thats the next step, the, the general consensus, i commissioner among the he or wife organizations which have been tracking the issue of the workers. This is exactly what they have been saying this saying that the Chinese Government has been committing crimes against humanity which include detaining more than a 1000000 wiggers in camps, subjecting them to torture civilization and forced labor. Now when they listen to you making that statement, are we in china . There was this line about you expressing concern about the lack of independent judicial oversight in ching, john, other said this is not what we want the high commissioner to say we want the high commissioner to tell the chinese that its about time to stop the prosecution of the wiggers. Well, the 1st thing i have to say it was not investigate it. It was a formalistic country visit where had the police to meet with many officials at a different level with ministers. And with all of them, with all of them. We raised all the concerns on the malaysian arrest that we have received allegations from that. And we have a particular issues in terms of of the persecution of people because of a particular minority already grounds the tensions, the delegation and torture. And of course, we have mentioned that these kinds of things are against the international humorous law and that it cannot be kind of continued. So, i mean, it has to be stopped. But we, we had that opportunity to raise all those issues with them. But also even we had the opportunity to discuss with a police chief with at that time, has this police fires a come in, in knowledge to everyone. And we raised an issue with them. And then they promised to look at it and to come back with an answer. So i think with to be able to raise all those concerns directly to the government for it is that if you people have that, i join us. And when you say this was not an investigation, but rather direct discussions with the chinese officials. What dont you see at the same time that this is something that could cost you your credibility high commissioner . Well, my credibility is related to what i think i have to do, and i have to do is to engage with the government with society and to do whatever it is need to done to ensure that human rights are protected and respected. And when we believe that there is, that is not what is happening to discuss and to look at a follow up and look forward how we really can correct that. They can correct things from happening and they cant take responsibility for the things that hasnt happened. So explain to us why is it took him that long to release the report on the alleged atrocities in the change young region . Well, as youre aware of nearly mark rewritten agreement with go back to china for a visit to the country. So this is something we, we want it to prioritize and because it was important, as i said before, to visit the country to engage with the authorities and senior officials on human rights issues and directly to raise the concerns with following my visit to china. The report continues to be reviewed and finalized. Are we likely to see the report published by the end of this month, for example . Well, as i said today earlier, we are working on it. I had fully intended for it to be released before the at them on monday. And we are trying very hard to do that. Now we have received a substantial input from the government and that we will need to carefully review because this is standard procedures every time we share a report of findings or assessment with any government, give them time to give us a factual comments. And then we are identify if those actual comments that needs to be included or not, or needs to be review to see all those comments really can bring a different perspective on some of the issues. And we do this with all governments of the world, has a china been using its political influence to bury the report. I will have to say i have received pressures for public and not to public, but from every side. But i have to say, any decision on anything that will happen, it will never if i will not publish or publish it due to any such question, i will never do Something Like that. I can assure you, precious will not affect my decisions. I, commissioner, when you get her letters from 40 countries asking you not to publish the report, what was your feeling . You are the one who is mandated protection, promote human, why . Its globally and youre having 40 countries telling you, you know, what, dont publish that report about the allege atrocities at the persecution of the work as in ching jump region. I have received that letter that i have received many, many other letters from many other countries and you asking me to publish. So i havent asked them that they are trying to press us to do something. And we are going to do the things that we believe is our human rights perspective, that to do the right thing. Could you share with the some of the findings which are going to be featured in the report . Well, i have to say is in the same kind of findings that we raise with what it is that of course this will be and more deep in terms of the analysis that its about patterns of Human Rights Violations. The reports of abby, tight attention treatment, and we will in the, in the report. It will go much more deeper on those with much more details and interviews of people who have been the victims of the situation. Ive been going through some of the International Backlash against the visit the trip to china. Some of the statements made by your colleagues, human rights activists, Human Rights Watch about what they were expecting to happen. Do you feel a sense of bitterness about the potential for this particular visit to overshadow the entire legacy of michelle bachelorette . Well, i think it would be completely unfair, not for me, but for the whole office to focus only on china to understand what the office has been doing the last 4 years because we have been carrying for so many issues on the whole world. And this is exactly what were going to do during the interview with this move on to do different topics. Now, do you support the growing cause among many human rights activists for russian officials to be prosecuted for war crimes in the ukraine . Well, its not for us to define, i work, im so now we have, every time we are discuss about crane and we have inform about when we have found on the ground. Because as you probably know, we are there with a special mission since 2014 looking at the monitoring and reporting on the situation. Great. And we have also inform and publicly and of the for the Security Council and everyone which are fine. These are until now i would say when you know, yesterday, march 6 months says the russian army attack a terrible, terrifying month for the people from crane 6800000 people have to flee the country and much more internally displaced me. And we have also documented, at least more than 5700 and something civilians killed and 7, almost 7900 in general on them on how to children. So i think that this has been terrible for the people for the civilians. There were also really concerns about about the i would say the situation of prisoners of war. So i have been calling on the russian president to hall car attack against the graeme. And i think that even though both parties must respect at all times, and he also does the National Human rest a little it is for the court to define the war crimes against humanity. So this is not for that, but we have said we have said though that many of the issue that we have been informed that is happening on the ground may amount for criminal for crimes or, you know, i know that a boys down to due process for investigation and jurisdiction, and that is ultimately for the committees, either appointed by the United Nations who are wise council or for the jurisdiction of the i. C. C. To look into those evidence in the near future or the general sentiment among people that this is something that shows no signs of abating. The war continues and there needs to be strong action to prevent something similar to this to happen in the near future. Because the fallout from this crisis in particular is affecting billions all over the world. Well, yes, and thats why we have insane its. We have insisting that we need accountability and all that matters of all the Human Rights Violations that work needs to be brought to justice and they need to be held accountable still because it and that we have said that many serious motivation that we have documented may amount to war crimes and they need, i mean, the ones who have done this needs to be held account. Our why is extraordinary times all over the world when we go enough further to the south ridge in sub saharan africa. What weve seen recently is a search in authoritarian but james military cause a my leg, guinea, and book in our faso. How concerned are you about those military coups which seem to be thou reversing democratic gaines that too many decades to build and accomplish . Very concerned and in the case of looking a fossil for example, i went there in december and i could see the friday situation. And i even ask my colleagues or even the National Commission for human rights. Do you think its possible a good time to happen here . I was told no way, no possibility that i was looking at how fragile the situation was politically speaking and of course, because its a hell. And it will keen. And again, you see this terrible conjunctions of very difficult factors in terms of high insecurity problem with our groups killing people and, and the government has not been able to really. And so the security situation lead to poverty, high levels of poverty linked to Climate Change of routes and of course conflict between between her to some farmers. So you see all this really difficult situation and particularly the triple border between in kena and molly. So yes and, and unfortunately less than one months later, we had a good data. So i think one of the things that is really important to try to support the governments that i have been democratically elected to be able to find solutions to this really difficult. So is progress and challenges that are not easy to solve. And one of the thing is, i guess that you could see the get where there is, there was loss and the position to the, governed by the opposition understood that there was progress for all of them. And they needed to respond altogether to this really difficult challenges. Tens of thousands of People Killed in a few tens of thousands this based on hundreds of thousands facing salvation. Were talking about violence in many places, particularly in romeo and been a single gomez. And also integrate until say its because of the International Inaction and lack of and because of the prevailing impunity that is allowing for such atrocities to happen again and again. Well, yes, youre right. I have heard from a and i can the mission saying that more people have a that even, you know, crane. And unfortunately, i would say the International Community has not been paid as much attention to, to, to keep re or to, or on my. And i for region as well, and im really alarm because of the time that we thought there was like these talks. And that this issues could be, could we will come into a Peace Agreement and sort of a transition political transition that could resolve the political issue. Because of course, now we have dealing with military military strategies, but i dont think the solution is a military solution. Unfortunately, we have seen reception hostilities in the last days and a half or so much and, and it will only excessively the suffering of it already desperate need. And as you remember, i think its a, its a real big number. I dont know if its 22000000 people, if im not wrong, who are suffering for Food Insecurity and there is for me. So really, really and we have that we have a pro. And if youre going to read peoples racial from to work to deescalate the situation and immediately see facility, but youre right. I feel that the International Community has stopped paying attention and this has not been helpful. I think the committee should give more attention to this situation. To help change the situation and stop the violence from happening in latin america. More journalist targeted in mexico and many other countries. Yeah, unfortunately the wall is not getting much better. And if i may say terms of human rights, but this official are not comparable in different situations. So you can have in mexico, you have a long family. History of people disappeared. Calculated 100000 that have been disappeared. And there has been a lot of impunity on these issues. And i hope that the governors make even bigger effort to try to find out the truth of what happened in many of this case of the 100000 people disappear, that they can identify more than 50 south remains. They have and that the truth can help the suffering and suddenly grievances of so many families that dont know what happened to the loving ones. So, and

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