Co top in israels will were on gaza. As the death toll now stands at around 33000. 00 springs voices growing louder in the international arena. Demand me access to humanitarian aid and advocating for recognized policy and state space. Foreign policy extends beyond the middle east balances relations with major powers like the United States and russia, well navigating the poor. The implications of the war and ukraine. Private essentials is at the crossroads of these complex 2 political dynamics. How will spain manage this era of global challenges and the rapidly changing International Landscape . The spanish Prime Minister petro sanchez, talks to out as the petro sanchez, spanish Prime Minister, thank you for talking to out you 0. You were one of the 1st leaders in the will to cool for a ceasefire and ga, so i looked it up. It was the 21st of october last year. At the time you spoke 4651 palestinians had been killed. Now. So many others, according for us, the spa, the us is dropped to subjection of the Un Security Council. We go to Un Security Council resolution yet the death toll now stands around 33000. 00. That means that more than 28000 people, many of them women and children have died since you 1st made your cool for sees fall so angry, you have to tell you. Well, 1st of all, thank you very much for for the 2nd interview and i have to share with you that sometimes i feel very frustrated because say of course weve been very vocal since the beginning of this war. We call them the say horrible and tables. Uh, theresa tax a preparatory by hum us and we, we condemned those with tax, but of course we asked for a per month and cease fire scene say 2 or 3 weeks after the said to reset the tax on the, on the recent news that the, you kind of to answer the be, say, kind of attacks all the ways that we punch or with the logic of war. Theres other ways to deal with these terrible situations. And that is why, you know, i think its, its really important to, to, to, to have the engagement of the Old International community in order to, to ask for a cease fire to, to allow the, the money tell you a to access it into a gas that of course, the media on origin, a release of elf hostages. Of course, there is no cease fire in place. The guns went silent for a little bit at the end of november, just for 7 days when the Security Council finally passed its resolution. Oldest members, welcome to even the u. S. That abstained said positive things. It was welcomed by the palestinian authority. It was even welcomed by how much the only people who didnt welcome that Security Council resolution fact vehemently condemned it. What israel is israel and obstacle to piece of the state. I think that the method you have on his government with these is 550 is getting more and more isolated internationally. In the beginning, i think that we all feel that solidarity with the citizens and the a society that was attacked by by terrys the an organization. But up towards these a on balance and the horrible situation that the appeal to all the International Community is sort of put in the Prime Minister. And theyve been yahoo in a very difficult on isolated situation and within the International Community. I can see, for instance, also in europe, in the beginning of the war, some countries more align with the position, the political position of office where i live nowadays have changed our seats, their positions that dramatically. Because the old societies are asking for more of a tough and clear and political position still worse with we are unfortunately weve seen in, in gusta, in the spring, i can say that the, uh, the majority of our citizens. And they do believe that they, we need peace, we need to restore peace. We need to have an origin today on permanency, expired on the ground. And of course to, to answer the most urgent the issue nowadays in gus that which is how can we allow the entry of humanitarian 8th, eh, on, on the, we through the different personality to respond to these humanitarian crisis that we are. Or if it gets it, these are suffering. You were on the visit to the region, you being to jordan, youve been to saudi arabia and youre now in kata. And here in bo harlem, we colorado. This is one of the places theyve been trying to get a deal on the see saw in tulips. Whats the latest youre hearing about that . Do you believe its close . I dont have food. I dont have information if its close as not to what i can share with you is my my will and i think the will of and the majority of the International Community which is to have this permanency speier. And i have to also to remember that the, the resolutions of the security counts who are biding for old Member States also for israel. So i think its a mandatory for the government. Theyll probably maybe certainly find yahoo, of course to, to have these permanency fire. And i think this will be a very important step in order to, to give a political horizon to the region in order to open a peace process. Cool, thats good to and, and to add the International Recognition they move towards recognition. And for the easy way, these and for the protest time people, you talk about binding Security Council resolutions. Thats not just the one on the see saw that the end of last year that would to resolutions but more rage should go in the International Court of justice, which also has binding measures. Its announced twice says the same thing should have more. I to go in and yet its not happening. Do you think israel is in breach of the Security Council resolutions . The National Court of justice measures. And if so, what, what action should we take . I think that the, theres a actually some that whats in the, in the sense that you are a and same and i can tell you that within the new, for instance, 2 governments, the i, i use government and also the spanish government. We ask at the, you can commission to make an assessment on the humanitarian rules articles that are included in the ad associated relation that the opinion has with the, with the israel custody agreement that the resign between a you 2nd and israel. And i mean you for it and if, if they find that israel is not living up to its respect for human rights, for example, that is in that agreement, what action should be taken . Well, in the case of the okay and you know, theyre, theyre, theyre, the situation would be that the, theres an open door to, to, to have the bait within the pm tells you, in order to me, to see if we continue with the system, the relation or not, but this is something that 1st we need to have the assessment of, of the information. But anyhow, as, as i said before, the important thing is that nowadays, it seems of the beginning of the war more and more countries, especially in the western world, are more reluctant to support them back. What the Prime Minister nathan defend jeff when hes government is doing in gaza. And theres an urgency to stop this terrible war and to open a new phase of somebody the piece for space in the region. And i think thats where you are, for instance, of these little the eh, and moral conviction, which is the case. So, so in our jo, political interest using our political interests to have them stable and prosperous and peaceful. I mean, at least, so this is something that i, ive, ive, ive been advocating and that is why weve been very vocal also. We seem to appear on union in order to, to have this approach and the, and, and also to have it on the strategic position of what to do from the European Union with our cellphone neighborhood. Which, by the way, i can tell you, i think that theres plenty of opportunities for the union and also for ad the, these countries in, in the, maybe in the, maybe least on the new china humanitarians have repeatedly come under attack and casa, the latest tragic incident. 7 workers from the world, central kitchen, thats the n g o set up of the spanish shift. Jose andries were killed. They also been working together with the spanish n g o. Would you pull that Food Supplies in by ship that come by ship because the israel is not allowing enough that stuff in by land. How is any of this acceptable . It is not acceptable. I think that its important to condemn this terrible situation. Then the very thing too, is extremely dangerous at circumstances and that the aid workers are working or a yes, having on the ground in augusta. And that is why i think its important. First of all, as i did to condemn this, a horrible bumping. The closest to the panel for 7 workers, which by the way, were working in gas because people in guns, an art starving, and they need food. And these n t o a live by this is spanish geoff closer and this, what they do is just to provide at food for the people on the, on of course what we ask a base where the government is at to clarify at the, the, the situation on the, on why this happened in guess of course this isnt a one off more humanitarian up to the world because of died in gauze than anywhere else in the world. A 150 your more you and Staff Members more medical stuff here than anywhere else in the world respects the question, is these radio me just very, very bad at targeting, or is it about the rules of engagement . Is that some sort of indiscriminate shoot kill policy going on here that i dont know, this is something that these where the government has to answer. What i can tell you is that the situation on the ground is that acceptable . And, and this brings me again to the same answer that i gave you since the beginning of the interview. We need a permanent cease fire. We need to uh, to convene a peace conference, which by the way, something a proposal that not only European Union, but also the leak on this. Let me conference we agreed on. So i think its important that from europe and also from the countries we Work Together in this peace conference in order to, to, to move forward. And to leave behind these 3 world war and to establish the conditions for a peaceful, a quick systems in, in, in the short term youre saying is rel, needs to answer these questions. Is this real potentially need to answer these questions to the International Criminal court . Does that need to be accountability for the sort of actions that has to be always come community . I think that the histories full of examples where its urgent and needed this kind of accountability. But this is something that the, the international uh, courts of justice has to respond. And uh, what do we need to do is to ask at these, what are the government to fulfill . Which is now based binding, which is of course, that un resolutions calling for a permanency fire. We talked about humanitarian workers, medical stuff, jim, and this is what most jealous of died in garza than anywhere else in the world. Now problem this and this and you know whose government is finding out as a result for patients. And israel. Is this quite literally a case of israel shooting the messenger a suitable office, a free press is on the hallmark of any uh, i would say self respecting uh, a democratic government and the from my side on from the spanish site. But we do is to uh, to support uh, the uh, the, the work uh, uh, made by the majority of these across the world. And especially in guest, not in these very difficult circumstances. Or youve talked about the simon in casa. Yeah. Which now the integrated Food Security phase classification report, which came out a couple of weeks ago, says, is coming at the full on the set between now and may. It is a man made from it. Is it not . Would you not agree . Its quite specifically and hes really made 7. What i do believe is the, and i was, i was, seems rough uh at that time you mentioned the, the beginning of the, of the interview. It is the, the Security Code that the, the israel opens up the possibility to, to have these, to many tyree an 8 going into gas as soon as possible. And perhaps were talking about, of course, land crossings. And of course, in the amount of 1000. 00 or a 2000 tracts per day. This is the, the table situation that the people in gus are suffering. And this is something that the International Community kind of accept. And that is why i think that the not only from the human Security Council also from the young union council. And we had a council. And some weeks ago, we commend these when the government to open these lines crosses in order to have an available uh, vc many 3, and a for the eh, it gets a piece with regard to the you. Joseph morales. The hi representative for, for an offense. He used to be your foreign minister, you know him. Well he said recently, if you believe too many people have been killed, maybe you should provide less homes in order to prevent so many people being killed. To see you need to stop selling weapons to israel and know you show your country is no longer sending any were no longer sending a weapons. And i, i do agree with this, a statement made by uh, it just simple in and uh, what i can tell you is that, um, i dont think that this strategy is going to give more security to the is Riley Society after the smart ends. Because i think that the end, the only way to, to have a peaceful coexistence on the security that the piece way that people needs is for politics of diplomacy, not with war. And this is basically terrible war that were witnessing and guessing. So many leaders, including yourself, and the only thing was in the west bank. Well, were meeting the on the and thats what i wanted to ask you about. Because so many leaders, including yourself, a wound about the danger opposite of this bull spreading. In that context. Israels recent attack on me writing in diplomatic building in the syrian capital, damascus. Do you think killed top officials of the good schools . Do you think that was acceptable or reckless active publications with acceptable . Its not acceptable. It needs to be classified by israeli government, and of course these and goes into a direction that you mentioned before, which is we need to avoid an escalation of the conflict in the region and from spain we have deployed many years ago, one of our largest, the you emissions on the ground, which is in leaving on the im of course we are trying to, to guarantee the peaceful, quick systems between the leaving these people on the east where the people in thats a very difficult border between the, these 2 countries. And, and we are very concerned about the situation and that is why we ask, and we commend the each way we call them into a to try to avoid these. The said this region of this kind of issue that we are witnessing, for instance, with this an attack and in syria when the war is eventually over. Who should run garza and who should pay to rebuild it should as well be required, for example, to pay reparations for some of the damage they cost you my opinion on the part assign. Affility is our partner for the International Community. And i think that they have the capacity and if they dont have the capacity, we need to give them the capacity to get the full responsibility of over a guess up is there was an old. So the west back and from the spanish perspective, i think that we are leaving now we move into, were at the International Community as a whole. We must recognize the full members people out as time in the human system. And of course, by naturally and from the case of his pain, we are ready to, to, to support and recognize the state of palestine. Because this moment to has to be different to the others that we, we, we witness a over the past 7 pickens which is okay if we can be in this International Peace conference at this time, must come to the table. It was a rick of nations taken by the International Community of their own states and the, the, the debates with the International Community. And the reason with these ran, the government in my view should be at what would be the voters would, would be at, lets say, the, the, the, the, the government, and so on and so forth. Even talk about policy, new sources. Yep. Private and nothing. Yahoo is just a single source, he caught run gas or off to with how is the International Community going to strong on these. Right. And hes on issues like this. You have the Prime Minister and hes ready to such as, you know, nathan . Yeah. Who, who has been trying to weaken the palestine of 42 over the past 2 years. This is a, this is the consequence that we are now witnessing augusta and we need to reinvigorate the palestine of warranty. I think its important and we are ready to work at a low with our friends at present in that box on of course a new Prime Minister of the find a sign up for the but i think that the, you know, they have to take that full responsibility of guys up eh, westbank on these groups who were sending on. And of course, again, the International Community must take it very important step in order to to recognize the state of protest. I am, by the way, also i think theres some momentum for a move towards the completion. Also some countries have to recognize each way and to, in order to, to have these a peaceful coexistence. The problem is progress. And netanyahu, you talked about 2 state station and whatever he doesnt believe in that time, i thought, well, actually want to stay solution because the other one is already recognized. I mean, is well by most of the countries and especially in the western world. So this is why i think this is one of state solution, and that one is the