Transcripts For ALJAZ NEWSHOUR 20220930 : comparemela.com

Transcripts For ALJAZ NEWSHOUR 20220930

Federation. Let. So once again, bring in patrick barry, hes the defense and security analyst at the university of bath, joining us again from bath in the united kingdom. So patrick barry, we were just witnessing the signing ceremony. And before we broke away, you were saying that while putting was speaking, there was nothing really threatening in what he had to say. But from a Security Point of view, he, he did say that we will work to increase security in these new 4 regions. How, what do you read into that statement . What does he mean by that . Yeah, during yeah, just to clarify what i was saying was that, you know, in terms of what the threats that hed made before regarding these territories. And then becoming under russias new kiddo umbrella, there was nothing new in terms of there was no ultimatum to ukraine, for example, to stop attacking them. As far as we know from the transmission just out, there was no telling you grand to get out of these are blaster armed forces. He did refer to them as terror. Some rebels mind you. So, and the security implications now are, you know, what does ukraine do when these op last, do they keep attacking unaired . And id imagine they will in the short term. And how does russia respond . There was no and specific mention as far as im aware of a new killer escalation of any kind in that speech there has been before. So in that way, in terms of managing the new killer escalation risks, which a lot of us have been wondering and worrying about less than that, to be honest its, its a, it hasnt gone any further than what we already were. And thats a bit of a relief. I think what my general take away on, on this speech actually is that it was more aimed at the global audience. And that the audience in the middle east, public speaking like he was, are addressing United Nations and the audiences in the middle east and south america and china, india. And basically saying, look, this is a class of ideas in his view. And i talked about sovereignty, talked about colonialism, and hes appealing to basically everybody to try to exclude. In that he pointed out the u. K in the u. S. And there are basically aggression on him. Now, you know, for, for the global audience, theres a lot of pop capital black there. You know, the, the west has made mistakes, does make mistakes. Owens, perfect. But so, as russia i, and, yeah, you know, that not needs to be pointed. I to the right and how do you read the message a to keep because he said that im quoting him, we call on keith to immediately stop military actions and return to the negotiation table. I mean, how does this annexation on what we just witnessed in the past 60 minutes or so change the course of the war in ukraine . Do you think if any, at all well, the ball essentially is there locally. There was no threat. Like if you dont do this, we will do this. I mean, i dont know to make. And so, you know, and he did mention yes, he called on a c store and they were looking for a cease far before. But we know that ukraine and ukraine essentially is like, you want to keep fighting, to take these areas back. We believe theyre ours, and they have every right to and, and, and it turned and see as far as before. So in terms of, you know, how does this, this, this actually move on from here . I think we would have to see how it plays out is actually the answer. I would, i would imagine that Ukrainian Forces are attacking as we speak it. Randy, mom again, you know, to try to take and envelop those areas. I dont think thats gonna change. And, and so, so in the short term at least well see, well see how it plays out on the ground. And as for sort of the western response in the International Communities response, weve heard the usual rhetoric and you know, the criticism and condemnation and countries in the west describing this as illegal. Do you think itll make any difference at all to, to rush on . What steps could they take . Did you say to russia or . Yes, it is the condemnations and christian did all. No, i dont think so. I dont think so. I think you will see them start to move their mobilize troops and they will, as he said, they will try and secure those areas as best they can. They dont hold them all of those, all blast as we well know, so and theyre contested as it is in at least 3 of them anyway. And i dont see them actually a funny enough. I think there was some scope potentially like a bargain between ok will, will withdraw from her. So i may be zachary asia, but well keep don at new guns. And now that theyve had the siding and ceremony as to explicitly said, i think thats more difficult for him domestically much more difficult for him to then actually come to some sort of negotiate a settlement even if the ukrainians were willing to accept. And so essentially, i think russia will try to, to post of the defenses there, as with their mobilized numbers, coming on online and, and the west will keep that support for ukraine going in. We saw, i think, yesterday a, the announcement of 18 high mars rocket systems, which will, you know, as far as im aware, not more than double spot was already the ukrainians have gone in there. So i think that will continue. But were not out of that, at least this speech didnt raise the threat of escalation even higher. Were not out of that. Yes. All right, thank you so much, patrick, very for sticking around. We really appreciate it. Thank you. Now lets take a quick look at the areas of ukraine that the kremlin now claims as part of russia. Its about 15 percent of ukraines territory, but its important to note that under International Law its illegal to hold referendums during conflicts and where people are on their threats. And the un secretary general says the annexations have no legal value and must not be accepted. We have early challenge standing by for us and keep the reaction from there. But 1st lets go to how much val and moscow. So there it is. The signing ceremony happened. Mohammed tell us how this is all playing out in moscow where you are and what actually happens next. Yes, that in i see people industry cutting and waving russian logs and applause that you have seen during this speech by president law, me put in. So as he was held for the, as he was addressing the world, as the analyst said, he was also basically essentially addressing russians and telling them that this is a move to redress the logs of the past. The history of russia to re eatery, to show you the great civilization wash is a great nation to my daughter, but they have to fight for this great most. They have to fight for the history. He evoke a, some of the leaders all the previous leaders of russian empire talking about the children. This is also. Busy the generations to come, this is to protect our children from the plural, the modem, and for the was coming from the west. He condemned what he called, the, the west, some form of children to change their sex for school. And thats a part of a long, long condemnation of everything the west is doing in his view at hypocrisy, in its relationship with other countries. Colonization slavery, the fraction of other peoples, the use of Nuclear Weapons. He said the u. S. Is the only country that has used Nuclear Weapons twice and here iterated. The fact, according to him that what happened to day, this integration of russia with its with those territories, is compatible with the International Law. According to the 1st article of the charter of the United Nations, i dont understand, i dont know what he means without. I think he means that every people have that i to decide their own destiny and their own future. So its a speech. But according to rushes, he is a speech of mobilization. He also congratulated those what half participated in the mobilization and he talked about the need for evolution to contribute and to top dissipate in the defense of the national territory. Okay, thank you so much. Mohammed valez reporting for us from moscow over to keys. Now we bring in rory, towns and rory the president of russia. Putin said that keith should respect the will under the of the people. And he also called on keith to immediately stop military actions and returned to the negotiating table. How is this likely to go down where you are and what sort of response has there been to the sonic sation . Fuller, i mean there was something i noticed very strongly in listings of peyton speak there. And i think it will be noticed very strongly in ukraine as well. And that is how little putin in that long speech actually spoke about ukraine at all. Ah, you know, essentially he doesnt really feel that ukraine is that relevance in this conflict. He doesnt see the Russia Ukraine war as a war of peers. He sees ukraine, essentially as a puppet, as a tool of weston ambitions. Ah, it doesnt see that this is a country ready with its own Agency Autonomy or sovereignty, and that is something that is, chimed returns with how ukrainians feel again about the cremins attitude to them a kremlin chauvinism. They dont think that the kremlin respects ukraine as an independent country. Prison has a view that is essentially revenge astir. Hes. Hes talking about great historical russia. Hes harking back to the leaders of russia in the past. Like catherine, the great so far off and saying that sir, the you, the u. S. I saw when it collapsed was a catastrophe that had destroyed a great country. The ninetys were chaos or russia where russia has taken advantage of by the west. And now russia is renewing itself and asserting its greatness at once again. He is called on the ukrainians to come to the negotiating table, but says that these newly annexed parts of her, well, boy, russia, were ukraine, a non negotiable, that, of course is not going to wash here and kia effectively. It doesnt make much difference to what kia is intending to do next, which is what has been doing all along since russia invaded fight off the russian invasion and restore the territories to ukraine, that russia has taken off them. Yes, russia alluded, putin alluded to Nuclear Weapons. He didnt talk about a direct threats that he was going to use them. But he said that russia would use all the means of his disposal or could use all that means that as at his disposal to defend these newly annexed territories. But as our guest, patrick was saying a little earlier, this wasnt that she changed the dial on the nuclear temperature, doesnt increase it, but it doesnt decrease that much either. Okay, rory, thank you so much for a challenge. Reporting from keith. Lets i bring in vladimir sutton. Gov is an independent political scientist who specializes in russias foreign affairs. Hes joining us from moscow. Welcome to al jazeera. Just give me your initial thought and what stood out for you over the past. Actually much when put in were speaking and during the signing ceremony. Thank you very much for the fall off or having me in your somehow a historic problem. So i would like to speak her 1st of all, at the se sick, quite the historic moment for, for probably fall the civilization, at least for the russian civilization. But also the western leads to, to take it very seriously. This is sort of to my mind that progress expect share by president flooding or boots and bukosa to some extent, i think that that will determine the cause of relationship with the western world for years to come. So they say, so quite in your book actually which is which here was appearing, has been appearing since february, when you, what do you mean by that . Or what do you mean by that . When you say it will determine their relationship because the fact that this annexation is, in fact, not internationally recognized, describe the referendums being described as a sham by many countries. And how does this play out in russia and how, how is it actually going to affect relations between the west than moscow . Ah, literately disagree with you actually disagree in principle, this is not a annexation. This is the well all the people you know that they will the people in done that scan the lugens car regions. Ah, this is a will of the people. So they, they, they said that they are going to join russia, so that, that is, that is actually not in the creation because these decision was sexually preparing long ago, even the from 2014, that should be done in 2040. So as regards to the relationship with the west, augusta pho, my point was that ah, the deterioration of the, of the relationship between russia and the western boa. Now is she taking in utah and what im talking about when you walk, that means that for, for, for, for years to come, ah, beast, a relationship will be, will be deteriorated. That will be, will be not to not to determine like ah ok. Ok, im afraid well have to leave it there, but we thank you so much for joining us right from us. Go, thanks. Thank yes, thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Second, lets get you s reaction with our white house correspondent, kimberly hallett. So kimberly, what is the u. S. As official position right now, that while the us president has been very clear in just the last 12 hours, the so the u. S. President made his position know, and he said, the United States, and he said, i want to be very clear about this. Will never, never, never recognize russians claims on ukraine sovereign territory. The president went on to say that he believed that again, as weve heard from numerous us officials, that the referenda that was held prior to this annexation and signing ceremony was sham. And that the results of the referenda were manufactured in moscow. And this entire exercise, including the russian invasion of the, of ukraine, a really, its been a violation of International Law. And so we expect that the us president may address this again, we are expecting to see him upcoming our although we dont expect to hear from him. He will be appearing at the Supreme Court for a the appearance with the newest member of the Supreme Court. Katasha brown, jackson, that is that official ceremony. A welcome make ceremony for her later he will be in the roosevelt room of the white house, talking about hurricane in and the federal spots there were. Its possible he could talk about this, but its very clear that we listen to the speech from last year. And he is very much pointing the finger at the United States talking about recent events, including that leak and the explosions that causes leaks on the north stream to pipelines. The fact that he is pointing and blaming the United States for that something that the United States denies that accusing the United States of wanting a war. The United States saying just the opposite, that it is russia that was that. So were at a very precarious point. You heard, there is a lot of speech saying that the United States is the only nation that has twice use new, your weapon. The United States saying that Vladimir Putin is dangerously escalating the threat of using Nuclear Weapons. So we have both sides making these tit for tat escalations in terms of the rhetoric. The bottom line is that were again at a very precarious place. Weve heard from Vladimir Putin and now we await some sort of response from the us president. Okay, youll keep us across the story. Thank you so much. Kimberly how can reporting from the white house for reaction from the European Union on the annexation ceremony held in moscow . Natasha butler is joining us from paris. What are you hearing, natasha . Well, during that speech by the russian president Vladimir Putin, we saw a some reaction coming in via twitter from various e u leaders. The head of the commissioner Commission Ursula vaughn de lion saying that a russias and legal annexations wont change anything that the will continue to support or ukraine and support ukraine. Sovereignty. The you also putting out a statement saying that the regions that russia says that is annex as far as a you is concerned. They are still very much a part of ukraine. And weve heard this over the last few days, ever since russia did announce that it was setting up those referenda. We heard us live on the line talking about a sham saying that the kremlin will pay. And the you has also launched another round it hopes to sign off on another round of sanctions, including for example, an Oil Price Cap including more restrictions on a travel for russians in the use of really trying to tighten the screws to a german cancer. All actually this week in of a telephone call with overload america zalinski, the ukranian president said that of course germany would never recognize what its what he regarded as a sham referenda. And its interesting because in 2014 a, when a russia legally annexed a crimea, that he was criticized by a some for being perhaps too soft on russia and to soft on rushes actions. They did roll out sanctions, but maybe not sanctions. The were as hard as some had hoped for. It looks as if they you of course, this time taking a very, a different approach, a much harder, tougher response. Okay, thank you so much. Natasha. Natasha butler reporting from paris. Meanwhile, at least 25 people had been killed in a missile strikes near the southern ukrainian city of upper richer. The Regional Governor says the missile hit a convoy of civilian vehicles in the outskirts of the city. Both russia and ukraine are accusing each other for the attack without having you just joining us live from the upper reaches. So now that the signing ceremony has actually taken place in the annexation formalize that just give us a sense of the situation on the ground where you are on what youre hearing and seeing. Well i have to say throughout this ceremony, its been extremely quiet here in the ukranian side of that region throughout the morning. They were one air siren after the other. There was that really deadly attack on that convoy trying to head into the russian occupied side, bringing some humanitarian a. But while the president Vladimir Putin was speaking in moscow were all was very quiet here. I dont think i was watching

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