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ALJAZ Inside Story August 15, 2022

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It was of interest to people who wrote the world. This has been doing for a number with an International Perspective croton winkler, global audience. Hows it impact the loan . This is an important part of the world, and i was very good at bringing the news to the world from here. Its been nearly a year since the taliban returned to power in afghanistan. The group says the nation is moving forward. Millions of people are hungry. Many goes onto pool and few countries recognize the taliban leadership. So whats needed to turn things around. This is inside story. Ah. Hello there and welcome to the program. Im the stars he attain. The taliban to swift returned to power in afghanistan a year ago. Quote, many by surprise, the group captured a string of cities as us lead Foreign Forces left the country after 20 years. And when its fighters took over the president ial palace on august 15th president asher kani went into exile. Conceding the taliban has won tens of thousands of afghans and foreigners scramble to cobble app or to board those last flights out. Tell him i need has promised to be more moderate and said they were committed to respecting womens rights. But 12 months on most girls are still banned from school. Females have limited rights to work or travel without a male guardian, and afghanistans economy has nearly collapsed with foreign aid. Drawing up, speaking exclusively to al jazeera, a senior taliban leader called for more international support. Over lydia and our new to the center were header. It has been only one year since we assume power and the world should not expect us to achieve all our goals overnight. It is next to impossible, especially when the International Community has not fulfilled promises, including the recognition of our rule and foreign. Despite the delay on their part, we by the grace of god, achieved huge progress on many fronts. Well, ive canister on economic crisis has worsened its already di humanitarian situation. Nearly 1000000 afghans have lost or been forced from their jobs since the taliban took over. According to the food program, 90 percent of afghans has faced Food Shortages over the past year. The well bank says the prices of Consumer Products such as diesel flower, rice and sugar have increased 50 percent since last year. Ive kinda st on has 9000000000. 00 and reserves, but theyre held in the us and europe. Not because the International Community refuses to recognize the taliban government. Ah, well lets now bring in our guests in couple. We have mosca galani. Shes the acting director of the Afghanistan Women Council and in london is graham smith. He is a Senior Consultant on afghanistan, International Crisis group. Hes also the author of the dogs are using them now are war and canister on a warm welcome to both risk. I want to start with you because youre sitting in couple at the moment after what we heard from the taliban a year ago. All those promises, are you surprised by what life is like there . Now . For the fall, i would like to say hello to our panel member. And when you ask me, find surprised. Absolutely not. I am not surprised the way the situation of the country is right now. The past Years Experience has shown that the tall one have not only remained unchanged, but they also act with far more extreme ideology base to deprive freedoms and sabotage, the foundations of national unity. And the guys done. There is open oppression against women, depriving them from their rights, taking away their the rights from children and youth of the country of education. And along with its helping you to all help with ethnic discrimination. They have promised far more different things, but they have not at all come across and fulfilling any of those promises unfortunately. And it just feels like all those promises were, were lies. I mean, these are all that we see or have seen in the past one year are all examples of their for not taken radical thinking. Which is truly, according to me. Bizarre unless got one of the big promises that they made with obviously around womens rights about allowing women to continue working, going to school especially and obviously back in march they stopped most girls from being allowed to go to secondary school. Graham. Im curious because at the beginning of the taliban taking power, they were very keen to reassure the International Community and they wanted legitimacy. They wanted aid. Why did they make the decision and lunch . Well yeah, i was, i was there and dont on the sidelines of the negotiations where the taliban were trying to reassure the National Community as you say. But i think its worth going back and looking at what exactly they promised. Because even though they were trying to indicate that they are ready to have peaceful relations with the outside world and, and even sort of courting foreign investments, they were always very careful to say that what they call domestic issues. You know, issues of social policy, for example, in which theyre extremely conservative. These are things to the outside world to not interfere with. And so i, i feel, you know, ive never myself, you know, use this phrase taliban to point out that you sometimes hear because in my view the taliban have always been the taliban. And so there is actually a fair bit of consistency between what they said earlier and what theyre doing now. Youre right though that there was a kind of turning point in march when the taliban decided to officially bar girls from secondary schools. Now of course, in about half the provinces or so, girls are actually attending secondary schools, but, but officially across the country, that band remains in place. And you know, i think that was a moment where you saw the amir and circles around being near the Supreme Leader done in kandahar really trying to assert themselves within the movement. And so one year into the evolution of the taliban regime, its still very much a work in progress in terms of whos in control and how it all works. Well, given the splits then that were seeing within the taliban themselves. Muska, let me ask you, is this causing division on the ground within communities role within communities . No, because when you look at it as, as communities, they all want the same thing in the end of the day. I think there are different ideas and there are different ideologies or, or different decisions is only putting them among themselves, like in trouble and making them not get along among each other, which is again, really surprising to like, it does not make sense to any of us. They fought for 20 years and then they come back and all their focus is on being just strict towards women and thats all that they have been doing. And they have paid absolutely no attention to the economic crisis. Thats been that this country has been doing with the so i think if you look at it like from a sub, by the entire community, all the communities and one assigned, they all want the same thing. So no, it does not really divide. It just puts them in a lot of concern. So i want to get to the economic concerns and the situation that in a moment. But this whole situation with girls going to school and the ban on going to secondary school. This is had huge implications for aid. So muska as someone who works with women in afghanistan, im curious about your personal opinion. Do you think foreign donors should be withholding aid until the taliban changes . Its policy on women and go i i personally think no because it is not. Its not helping. The government is not breaking. The health is not coming. The only people suffering in the middle are the woman that we personally have been working with. Or all the women of matter of fact. I mean, which part of women being on the road begging is better than, like getting no aid like it makes no sense. So i think no, i think the International Community should actually send it, send in their donation, but maybe not through the government. Because honestly, in my opinion, this government should not be recognized. I want to graham and here as well because i know you has called for aids to be released and obviously western governments dont want to look like they are supporting the taliban. How is this now being discussed in western capital . Yeah, my organization, the International Crisis group is one of the sort of earliest to come up publicly last fall and say, look, this is not going to work. You know, there are a lot of hungry people in afghanistan. And so its probably time to start thinking about unfreezes, the frozen assets about lifting some of the western economic restrictions, especially easing the effects of sanctions and to their credit. Actually, western doctors, especially United States, have been taking steps in that direction. I mean, the spring we saw something called general license 20 from the us treasury department. Thats actually the most sweeping set of exemptions from us sanctions anywhere in the world. So there have been the, this kind of effort to ease the blow a little bit, but its still very much work in progress. Those assets remain frozen. As you mentioned, at the top of the show. And those negotiations are continuing between United States and the taliban. About the future of central banking, which sounds like a boring topic, but its just vital to how afghans eat there needs to the cash liquidity on the street so that the import deals can get done. So the daily bread can reach african bakeries. So lets talk about what that looks like on the streets of cobble, unless you alluded to the economic crisis that what does the regular day look like at the moment . The regular day aid, its disappointing. Its painful and its hard breaking those. Those are all that i can say, but behind every bread they create that you see there are 20 to 2530 room and just sitting there waiting for someone to give them a piece of bread. Thats whats happening. Children are out on the street begging all day long, and most of these women were the only breadwinners of their family. Since their husbands are brothers, their fathers, ive been killed or died or during these 20 years of war. So they were the main breadwinners and now a daily normal day in couple or in a one on overall looks like this side tried to be where women are out with their hands out begging for 1020 and the piece of bread, a little bit of food so they could go back home and feed their children. Thats what it looks like. We keep talking about Food Security and i recall last winter we were talking very much about the possibility of, of famine enough kind of stuff going into the lean season. It does seem that somehow that was staved off. Graham, how, how did that actually happen . And obviously this, theres winter coming again this year. What is the situation like at the moment . It was saved off, just barely. United nation says that upwards of 20000 people in the Central Highlands are now and they call them, unlike conditions that sort of the very worst kind of starvation like category. And i think theres a real fear that that could spread as we get towards winter. Again, its done of course produces a lot of its own food in the harvest seasons. And then when you get towards winter, it depends a lot more and imports. Those imports are now more expensive, globally, partly because of the war and ukraine. And partly because of the paralysis in the banking sector. Its very hard for food in orders to bring food into the country like they did before. And some of the blockages to tray are resulting in higher prices for, for ordinary africans, as you noted, you know, just terrible inflation, not just in the price of food, the price of fuel prices, of medicine. And so that really does have to be some greater action in terms of reaching some curve agreement between the west and the taliban. On how economic revival is going to be achieved. Lets go correct me if im wrong. I understand that there is food to be bought in the market, so it is available. Its just that people dont have the money to buy it. And i know there have been some issues about salary is being paid. So can you give us a, an idea of just how big that gap is between the price, the food and what people can actually afford . Well, the price of food has got, has gone really high, of course. And but the thing is that Currency House into the, the people or women that were working after i come and i am basically we presenting the the women right now. But the women used to work and now they have been fired from their job. So theyre not really getting salaries and they were the breadwinners, its really hard for the gap is like really, really, really big. And so, i mean, i really dont know how this is gonna, this is going to change. Because also the donations that so far have come in to help the people who are dealing with, with such issues, it has only made of want to phone look like a charity case. And thats not what we want. We want something stable. We want something after everyone have their right to right to work, right. Education right to just equal rights for men and women. Currently, most men are not being paid. Most of their salaries are not given. So, i mean, people who truly dont have money to go and buy and enough for their families. So theyre dealing with quite a hard time. Right now. Some of the most extreme needs that weve been seeing in rural areas as well. So many people the outside couple just wanted the fighting to start. So now were seeing this relative piece at the same time as economic challenges, the mounting grand, how people outside couple viewing the taliban. Now, given this kind of dichotomous situation, erin well, you know, as you mentioned, shutting millions of girls out of high schools really hasnt helped the telegrams reputation. I think the discovery of ohio liter im and also harry living in the heart of, of cripple, also damaged the tolerance reputation globally. And so it gets harder under those conditions for the taliban to reach any kind of agreements about how to get beyond just a short term emergency relief, which is neither sustainable nor sufficient to deal with. The 10s of millions of africans who are now in great starvation. You know what the world bank has said is that we need to start investing in development. For example, there is less area under effective irrigation, todays and there was an election seventies is of primarily agriculture economy. So, you know, there needs to be help with getting water to crops. But you know, who is going to come in and build a large scale irrigation system under a taliban regime that is not recognized by the International Community. And, you know, with that sort of political distance growing. And so its, it really is a difficult situation. Graham i, i really want to focus on how people and rural area of particular feeling as well because i know youve traveled around the country. Im in the last few months or so. And im curious about how people who were really just wanting the fighting to stop how theyre feeling now that theyre faced with the taliban regime, even though there is a now relative security. Yeah, i just finished working with colleagues on a report about the security situation based on interviews in 13 out of the 34 provinces. A lot of people in rural areas are benefiting from the end of the war century. There are 2 small insurgencies remaining, one against the remnants of the former republican, the north, and one against the local version of islam states in the east. But these are really small scale conflicts. And you know, this had been the deadliest war in the planet earth. We had 30240000 people dying annually and the conflict hundreds of thousands displaced. And so yeah, in a lot of the, the rural villages people are putting their lives back together. Theyre picking up the pieces literally. Some of the biggest threats to civilians in those areas are when children pick up the explosive remnants of war or their, their forging for scrap metal or theyre playing with the shiny bits of metal and something explodes. And so far too many children, unfortunately, are dying in the remnants of this terrible conflict unless youre sitting in cobble. Do you feel like theres still a huge, huge difference between how people feel in the capital versus in the rural areas particularly now that the security situation has changed . Honestly, i think right now everyone the starving b, its the capital b at the rural areas. Everyones focus is to have their tummies filled food on their table security. I mean, oh, what i mean, it does not feel secure. So whats the point of this kind of security . Okay. Yes, theyre not having explosions the way we used to, but they are, they were the ones tha

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