Transcripts For ALJAZ Inside Story 20220720 : comparemela.co

Transcripts For ALJAZ Inside Story 20220720

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At least 79 people have been killed in Blue Nile State, close to the board with ethiopia, 200 others have been wounded. Fighting between the button house, the tribes began on monday. This unrest as being blamed on issues including long running tribal disputes, land access, and tensions with leaders in the sudanese capital cartoon view. Now, state governor has imposed the nighttime curfew and banned public gatherings for a month. And soldiers have also been deployed to restore. Com have been morgan has more. This is a residential neighborhood in groceries. Totality. Incidence blue now state and it was a scene of fighting between members of the house, the tribe and members of other tribes over land dispute. We started over the weekend here in blue. Now, states, now the how the tribes and several other ethnicities have been residing in blue, 9 for decades. But when the house of tribe tried to claim land for themselves, other tribes retaliated and that has led to the killing of more than 80. And the displacement of more than 30000, according to the state ministry of health and 8 organizations. Now the resulting violence here in blue now state has resulted in protest in various parts of the country, including the Eastern States of the seller and the body of the Southern States of white nile and the capital ha to him which on tuesday. So hundreds of members from the house, the community protesting voicing their anger against the violence that has resulted here in blue. Now state. Now blue now state is no stranger to violence. Its the scene of fighting between rebel forces and the government for decades. Now until a peace deal was signed in 2020, but the latest round of tribal clashes shows that even with the pcl find there is a lot to be done for substitute ality and security to reach the state permanently. He will morgan alta 0 for insight story. While the arrest has triggered protests and neighboring states, people from the house, the tribes set up barricades and set fire to government buildings there, and casala. Houser, tribe members also demonstrated incidents capital cartoon. They say the military government has failed to keep tribal tensions under control. The army your call took over power last october. It up ended a transition to civilian rule. After former president omar the share was ousted in 2019 tribal violence has increased since then. Once it on has a long history of communal violence. Fighting has been going on for decades in the states of blue nile, da, 4 and South Quarter fun. Tribes fought over land access as well as differences in political and military affiliations. The un was at least 145 people were killed last june. And elanda spears in the town of corvus and western da full and 2020 tribal leaders and the Transitional Government signed the job agreement for peace and sued on it. Addressed land rights and Political Representation that progress on implementing that deal has been slow. Ah, well, lets numbering and i guess in london we have little care. She is the founding director of conference advisory. Thats a think tank based and cartoon in cartoon. We have 100 elemy and off man, hes a student. Hes journalist covering conflict, owns across the horn of africa, and in london. Is jillian lusk. As to don analyst and also the chairperson of the society for the study of the su dons, i will welcome to you all. Now obviously this is a very complex conflict within a very complex political situation. So theres plenty to pick a part here. Now jillian, im going to start with you because i know youve been working on through don andrew nile for many, many years now. So before we get to whats triggering this specific fighting this specific point, can you remind us of the drivers of conflicts that weve been seeing in the area for so long . Well, i wouldnt say that now hosting or local conflict. In fact, it was very calm until this broke out, but its true that nationally. Yes, there have been all kinds of conflicts, most of which people i talked to generally linked them to the government that they the regime wants to set them up. It suits the regime to havent stability because it hasnt got a social and political base. This is the military ration that took power in the last october. And therefore it has to find some sources. But its something to attract people, you know, people fill insecure so they say, well maybe we should turn to the military, but also because it distracts people from pro testing about elect the democracy. Calling for human rights justice piece, all the things, the repetition of 2019. Sorry jillian, i want to press you on the history of nile though in the drive as a conflict, were seeing that they have been land disputes. For instance, what have been in your mind, the big issues there . I think the main issue at the moment is that they, the house of people that you mentioned earlier have been in sit for about a century as an ethnic group. They settled from west africa and flown in times and a lot of them went to work on pumps, games, and agriculture states. But they were never given, certainly as nationality, and they were never kept land rights in the, in the traditional sense of what, what they call indigenous land. Right . Since theyve done so that they could own private land themselves. And somebody could buy a house or gardener from the tribe as such, didnt have access to that. And this has been stirred up now as an issue somehow, some people have asked for land, right. And somebody else is stirring this up and making other ethnic groups, people from other ethnic groups, think that the house or have come to invade the land massage to say, given the country isnt a very poor stage economic moment. People are hungry and its very conflict. So well, given that there are the complex and all that stirring up thats going on, i want to bring in hollywood here. Theyre obviously a number of different explanations for whats happening in do not at the moment. And specifically the timing of it. Im curious because a lot of these dynamics also seem to be taking place away from the region, especially because a number of the groups who signs that 2020 piece agreement are viewed as having cited with the military and the current context. So hello. Do you think that the job piece agreement has changed . Local politics on the ground and blue. Now is this the case of cartoon filtering down to the local level . There were undoubtedly the 2 piece agreement to set up a lot of conversations. And this is because it wasnt signed by all the groups of course thought it was only signed by the weaker, smaller groups who attracted to the idea of guessing the hands on a piece of the face piece of the pie and the position in call to which has happened and then also the qu, last chin tobar was in part because we wanted to show these games, which they had made to the Peace Agreement with a Peace Agreement, didnt do 2 things. One, it didnt make peace between the groups. If i can call and 2 pieces made, read it between the heads of these groups and general and call to me was made anywhere near the local level. And so what youll see now is the new from the station opening up in order to assert their rights and what they, they want from the states, including from those who signed the lease agreement. Well, there are also these allegations that very powerful local leaders say in blue nile, who are also wielding power in cartoon stoking some of these tensions, perhaps even arming some of these local groups. Mohammed, what do you make of that . You know, this traditional tension between the farmers and but surely so no much seems to done is, is some, some traditional and old. And when its nick tension in sudan is some, some, all that been inherited by from the long civil war since with them. But what is happening now is kind of that the change of the kind of, she been the shaping the future, of course pursued video between a lot of political needs. And among they did, they did look at themselves because you see that is especially after the who that is the why, but it says ation of these look a leaders. So this is why the conflict is jumping from place to another because of the completion of resources, the competition of the power, the competition of, of how to ship this future. What did happen in this time is not normal cycle of tribal violence. The traditional tribal violence was done and as you see, it moved from blue nile to cetera, within 3 days. And today there are wide in come to me as well and the police have dispensed them. Actually, this is a problem and i did talk with but a distance from the house that im in. Thats not what example. And they said that these brought, this has been been dated by some isms from the grid at the, from the old regime affiliated. So we know that the base of the social economic problem is without the problems of the climate gain, the problem of displacement. That was all, this is the background of the traditional complex needs to done. But what is happening after in the, in the, in the post, but she to be with is the change of the balance of what have boost all these groups. Especially the needs of these groups to compete over sources and under power and with the hands of the former to deal with this one of the security and fuel in this head of his beach, among the local communities that live together for hundreds of years for the indian groups or for the groups will campus without like the house or should i go they exist. So i want to bring in followed here again, because we are talking about groups and existing tensions, but also multiple actors, all of whom have different agendas, collude in your mind, all the individuals here who was stroking some of these tensions in these areas. Its sort of events at the moment and developing very quickly so its very difficult to keep ahead of what credible reports and what, what is clearly coming out is that there are certain groups from culture and some has posed the idea that its general him, etc. In the sovereign counsel, the deputy chairman of the southern council, who is possibly supporting will arming some of the groups, possibly the house, the in denial. There are also concerns that the head of the s b m. And i got affection malik. I got paid an integral role in sort of soaking divine. And so hes bringing about the conditions for the vitamins in the decisions that were made by his governor in the state about the possibility of the house having a native Administration Type rep patient which is an informal tribal base representation. And that was denied to them. And this has been puzzled of the sort of the, the root cause of the conflict that has, have not been given to ship and they havent been given a political sake do you have concerns that this conflict will, will broaden both in terms of area and actors here i think that nationally depends on what the Central Government and culture wants to spread or not. I mean, at craig middle, i mean, said about the intervention of the government and also mentioned him at t the issue a land tenure was supposed to be tackled in a national conference. This is part of the trip a piece agreement of 2020, which everybody mentioned earlier. Was supposed to be tackled international conference. And that the kind of issue of whether the house know who was alarmed rights would, would begin an end. And would, of course, being part of that, but that didnt happen partly because of delays over other things, but then lots of course because of the curve. So the, the military now has no interest in settling this issue. And the question of where the weapons come from is indeed a very personal question. I think, i dont think its likely to speak, you know, just going to repair such because this isnt a cross border issue, a tool at this point. But of course, any tension near the border given that the has been tension between some of the question of the now waters in particular the dumb thats always a possibility. It makes it even more sensitive than it was already a little part of the Peace Agreement that were talking about. But also about integrating rebel forces into the army. And that obviously hasnt happened when talking about potentially arming different groups. It does seem that various groups across you down at the moment on a bit of a, a recruitment drive to try to grow their own political power. As we see this impulse continuing in cartoon momma, you think that full so potentially contributing to the violence that were seeing is actually this. The compromises that meet with them between the continuous compromises since 2019, which this job is examined was one of them. Actually, one of these compromises the min compromise was between the military and civilian in general. So this had created a kind of hybrid government which is actually owned or give the upper hand for the money that he also that happen among the people movements who actually divide the between the civilians and the military. So this agreement is, is not actually at this, the root causes of the problems. Its actually take into consideration the consent of the needs about how to of shit in the power between the needs of the movement and the lead. That is actually, i want to take a look back at students that are, are people over the past few years. Now a long time neither am alba. She was removed back in 2019 a 3 year power sharing agreement was established with a bill, a 100 as prime minister. He had served for just over a year when the military arrested him seized power and quashed a protest against the takeover. He was reinstated, after finding a controversial deal with the military. Now, since then, the military has expanded its powers as weve been discussing. General, profess alba, 100 sworn in the head of the Ruling Council and protest against military rule has been held nearly every week since october. While a lot has obviously been made of this divide this rural urban divide, especially when it comes to courtroom elite since you don coolard, how much support is there for these st. Protests that weve seen in culture across the rest of the country. The Street Movement or the Promotion Movement has been very good at tapping into the core, concerned that people across the country. And oftentimes, you know, in very thought contrast to the authorities who havent been able to do so. And so they have been able to maintain to a large degree as you say, weekly process sometimes more than once a week since october of last year for me, that longevity and that ability to sustain a protest indicates to me that there was a large amount of support for the Pro Democracy Movement sticky for the Resistance Committee that are leading the Pro Democracy Movement. We have seen, for example, the latest process tap into this idea that we are all family rather than the divisive politics that have been playing out by the to top general general. Were 100 general him at the over the age where weve seen journal hon and ribbon ill state we speak to an arab identity and, and sense of sort of power that is inherent in that. And then weve seen general m s. C in the 4. So the id of a sense of us is periphery with the periphery. Finally, having its time presumably through him and the new fiscal policy that hes having to set up for the device. The politics of the top, which weve already been watching as a sign that there is the, to general, the ease with each other despite their immediate interest. Looks to be but burgeoning into a much broader issue and put them up as movement, particularly sort of aware of this. And they have been trying to rally a sense of unity. But of course, with so much violence taking place right now. Its going to be quite difficult for them to, to achieve that as hamlet that without key changes at

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