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SFGTV BOS July 2, 2024

Aye. The minutes are approves. Call the Consent Agenda items 59. Item 59 the Consent Agenda. Staff is in the planning on to present on these but available for questions. Thank you. Is there a motion to approve the Consent Agenda. Moved by melgar and seconded by walton we can take that same house same call without objection the motion passes. Madam clerk, item 10. Item 10 San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency fleet electrification update report this is an information item. And we have bonnie gene von crow. Sfmta building Progress Public Affairs manager. Such a title. Good morning. Im bonnie von crow, Public Affairs manager im theme proviedz an update on the paratransit electrification process. Our paratransit fleet is a van and taxi program. For people with disabilities that are unable to take our muni service. Unlike municipal theruns on fixed routes paratransit is a door to door program. We have been provideing for 40 plus years last year served approximately 500,000 trips per year. Im here before you as part of our funding request circumstance and part of that request is to provide continuing updates on the electrification process for our paratransit fleet. And that looks at vehicle procurement and charging infrastructure at our facilities and maintenance and storage of vehicles. And then funding and other risks. Just a bit of background or paratransit electrification is part of our larger Building Progress Program a 2 plus billion dollars program. Capitol program to modernize and electrify the sfmta facility paratransit fit in that program. We have one pillar is modernization so looking at sfmta aging facilities and sequencing them present low and merrying this with the electrification requirement and regulations for 1 huh zero e missions muni fleet which we include paratransit in this. A pai pillar is public out reach. Our facilities in neighborhoodses in some case over 100 years and planning for the next hundred years. To talk more about the over all electrification program. Pair thanz transit is not a stands alone project there are a number as part of this program. And leading with the kirk clt landiard electrification this will be our first retrofit to electrify the yard to support battery electric bus. Prior, in the run up to the kirkland project implementing chargers, pilots at woods and creek yards. We are excited receive fta funds nothing 30 million are if the pilot programs. And upcoming presidio yard project and paratransit electrification as well. Over all, our paratransit fleet goals to provide service, safe, Reliable Service for our seniors and disabled patrons. And we are looking at transitioning the float to a completely electric fleet. But we want it make sure we have facilities to do so. With the prior funding requests if prop circumstance funding we are able to replace 17 gas powder victims in the last fiscal year that allocation also included funding for one electric van. This is where we are excited procuring that in the next fiscal year. And when we been electrifying the paratransit fleet, we look at the California Air Resources Board guidelines for float electrification they have i requirement that the sfmta work to comply with. To electrify our fleet by 2040 and a certain number of paratransit vehicles fit into this guideline. Or large are 68 ford ev40 universals which are larger group vans, those weigh over 14,000 pound and said be regulated by the guide lines. The veterans that take the seniors to senior facilities or adult day care facilities. The heck facilities those are the veterans we use for that under the carbguide lines however we are look at possibility of electrifying our entire paratransit float and how we fit had in our over all fleet procurement planning and facilitys planning. The past year we have been evaluating our various vehicles on the market today. To date we evaluated the turtle top and ford ev. Both vehicles sit too low to the ground for our San Francisco they scrape the pavement going over hills. We are looking forward to testing the lightning in the coming months. To date we have not found a vehicle this is operational on our unique vipir that is the risks associated with paratransit and the other is price per vehicle. Paratransit electric vehicles are more expensive than gas they run 350 to 375,000 per vehicle met low because currently they are built as gas power exclude retrofited be electric. We do look forward, ford has a vehicle developed from the upon ground up in electric paratransit vehicle and look forward to this bringing price down in terms of cost per vehicle. In february. 20 twooshgs the sfmta completed the battery electric bus Facility Master Planning process this baselined our projects and locked at sequencing for charging infrastructure. Identifying Power Requirements. And looking at that schedule so that we are merrying both our electrification of our vehicles into our facility planning process that existed around modernization of yards. Fair transit is woven in this over all Planning Press. We learned a bit regarding Power Requirements. At our facilities and the sequencing of our yards in concert with our vehicle procurement needs. Look at paratransit where it is today we lease facility in brisbane we have a number we lease there and our goal with the float is to house it at a permanent sfmta facility. We also you that would save us costs and also save cost in terms of service, our vehicles in and out of brisbane now if we bring them to the city that is key for us. We are not look at building a new facility or acquiring new land but looking as part of our facility planning process as we upgrade and modernize and electrify them; where can we identify space for our paratransit fleet. We are looking at a number of options presidio yard is one that is being studied. Our woods yard was suggested for our fleet back in 2017 during the framework Planning Press and we also are analyzing that at the potrero yard. So we are currently reviewing the sequencing and timing of over all planning. And how we ask interweave paratransit the electrification of the paratransit fleet is department on having facilities available that can charge that float and space to store and maintain it. You know risk this is we looked at in the past year and as we were to electrify facilities include the Power Requirements at the facility. Green infrastructure needed to charge our electric buss and paratransit vehicles had would be needod and off site. Looking at pg and e in timing and their capacity. And of course, funding challenges. For the over all program. Nunned fungs advocacy is required. As i mentioned we were granted 30 million in fta bus Facility Grant this is past year at to do the pilots at woods. Which will kickoff what would build on the existing chargers that are at the facilities that serve the pilot battery electric bus vehicles today and allow us to panelled that program. And we am continue to apply for federal funding as well as there will be a number of funding requests for the yards before you in the coming months and those are critical to our paratransit electrification process inform terms of Critical Path next steps the next 18 months the sfmta is hiring a consultant to do a study on markets market and cost analysis. And so we will be looking during this time frame at both the paratransit fleet. Doing that evidence of additional vehicles. And also looking at Design Guidelines for paratransit and looking at location and analysis for where we can put this float in our over all facilitys planning process. As we look out 35 years, we do look at finalizing the specifications. Final iegz charging requirements and then identifying the funding gaps in the program. By the end. This time frame we plan be able to charge up to 20 of the sfmta float. If we have 20 of our float that is Battery Powered we will accommodate that within 5 years based on our facility upgrades. And looking long are term 10 to 15 years, that is the time frame for constructing the infrastructure modern iegz facilities to be able it store the electric fleet and looking at fleet procurement with that press in terms of vehicle requirements. So finally, we have completed the Feasibility Analysis to integrate paratransit in our larger Planning Press and then are work to intgrit this with our float procure am program. Now at the stage of identifying specifics in terms of facilities, locations and needs for the fleet. We. Be coming to this body in part of the 5yp p funding requests for a number of facilities in the coming mont this is is the beginning of a conversation around our fleet electric sxifkz facilitys electricification and the number of the projects core sponld to our electrifying facilities notoriety fleet needs. Thank you and im happy to answer questions. I have other member of our team here to answer specifics as well. Thank you for the presentation. Vice chair melgar. Thank you and thank you for that thorough over view i appreciate temperature i was a quick question. Wonder figure any of the facilities you listed potrero, wood, if those are abc 617 community and make them eligible for state funds to do this transition . Yes, somewhere. Which ones. Woods. Yea. Does this make it more attractive to do it there . I have jonathan here what i say in terms of the facility planning process woods is our later facilities to go in the process. In terms of the modernization it does make it an tractive place i dont know if you want to add. I would add jonathan chief strategy officer. I would like to thank this commission for asking the questions i think this request forced us to look at this comprehensively you got in the presentation. As you know im happy to answer questions. We are what we have done at this point what you saw today is we know we have to electrify the paratransit fleet we are looking at various options and go through a process of elimination. Funding capability, ease of construction. As the board of supervisoris know all of you have been focussed on pg and e and infrastructure that is one of the big of the unknown questions we cant answer with regards to schedule. Funding availability, feasibility of construction and power load are key of decisionmaking. Thank you. All right. Lets open this item to public upon comment. If there is anyone who would like to talk to us about item 10. Please, come forward. Lets see if we have remote public ment on item 10. Checking for remote Public Comment. Hello caller. Good morning this is Barry Toranto i did not heart presenter discussion much how we will electrify the [inaudible] taxi fleet. There was manage like Something Like 40 of them and sooner or later they have to go to zero e missions with the vehicles. There is manage like 70 thundz to buy new gas powered and use a lot of fuel and they also require a lot of maintenance. And the drivers dont have a spare vehicle at this point if the vehicle is out of service. Great to find incentives or subsidies to fund the transification to electric float of ramp taxis. And also whether able to use the charging stations at the muni yards as the presenter had shown and described during her presentation. Great if you someone asked the questions i think taxis take a brunt of the pick ups ramp taxis, they give generous incentives some case its is not enough am i appreciate if the presenter could address how they will incorperate taxis in city electrification program. Thank you. Thank you, caller. There is no additional Public Comment. All right. Public ment on item 10 is closed. Madam clerk. Call item 11. Autonomous vehicle update an information item. We received Public Comment posted on the website. All right. Thank you madam clerk. And i guess we will start with break news. If you look at the chronicle, well is the nows reported this cruise driverless testing is suspended by the dmv. So sort of puts new orleans spin on this hearing we are having. I do want to thank of course, our ta staff and mta staff and former chair supervisor peskin and president supervisor peskin for his diligent attention to this over a long time. We had planned to have and continue with information item on the latest developments with the deployment of driver av in San Francisco. We have presentations by staff from the ta the mta, San Francisco Fire Department i want to thank john paul, julia and deputy chief for being here and your woushg and collaboration. Again i want to thank president supervisor peskin i want to thank the Mayors Office. Alex sweet the transportation advior this has been the areas i think for the most part the legislative and executive have been able to work collaboratively and report the needs of san franciscans, together we are working with the av Companies State and federal regulators and the sf community how to implimit this new technology and maintaining city goals. We are join bide phil coopman of electric and Computer Engineering at Carnegie University will offer perspectives on av safety after the presentation we will start with john paul valys. Sthk. Chair this present agdz will provide you the board a summary of our experience. Any ahead. Sfgovtv, please, share slides. Okay. We will provide a sum row of our experience in San Francisco with driverless vehicles. And leading up to todays events i hope we will provide a context for the news the chair shared. Again, this is i collaborative work. Beginning with the agencies here represented ta and sfmta and Fire Department. But again also he sf planning and sfpd, support of Emergency Management. And the City Attorneya and Mayors Office. Yes. The section of the presentation we will provide a background of the more than the context that [inaudible]. Operations here in San Francisco. Lets start with local context and goals for San Francisco. You know we have a very advanced urban environment with competing uses for road space. It is very limited. So as a result, local transportation policy is very intentional about leveraging that limited resource that road space to get people and goods where they need efficiently, safely and equitablely. Avs are not the first innovation to arrive to San Francisco. We have over decade of experience intgritting Mobility Service in our Transportation System. In 2017, both the ta and sfmta adopted a set of 10 principles for service and technologies that provided us city agencies as well as patriot mobility ino have aors coming to San Francisco with a set of guidelines and lenses through which the city evaluate the benefit and the impacts of new service. As you see on the slide we are core values safety. Like transit. Congestion. Access ability and things we are looking into. And include accountable. Relevant data with city agencies and also very important low collaboration with city officials. And the principles being well use local policy and regulations to maximize the benefits of Mobility Service. While mitigating the consequence and negative impactless the serves mibring to the our mobility goals. However. In the case of commercial av or robo taxys it is not that simple. Because just like uber and lyft, San Francisco has no direct permitting authority over commercial a very close Passenger Service. Avs at the federal and state levels. The federal lever the national Highway Traffic Safety Administration establishes monitor and enforces Vehicle Safety standards. No binding regulation as of yet but av safety garthing trash information and safety investigations. In california in 2012, state law required the dmv to develop regulations the first set was adopted in 2014 by the dmv for testing av with a safety driver and then in 2018 additional regulations were adopted for permitting driverless testing without a driver and for full Service Deployment to passengers. The California Commission revving lites commercial Passenger Services at large including tncs develops program for a very close Passenger Service in 2018 and 2020 and the permit mirror the dmv in terms of with or without a driver and a testing phase in full commercial phase. Locally sfmta manages our streets and curbs. The t ameasures strategies to manage congestion and sfmta and the ta collect the prop b tax av services and tnc service must pay for operations impact on the city. The board can pass resolutions like the av resolution you adopt in the december of 2012 dp land use policy may affect av operations but we largely play a flow relation to the San Francisco providing input based on our dir

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