Transcripts For SFGTV BOS Budget And Finance Sub-Committee 2

So im hoping with all the other things that theyre losing contact with this summer, that life performance would not be one of them. I would say humble. Chrissy field is a great location, waters edge. Theres lots of parks and recs events. The palace of fine arts, fort mason, those are all places. So if we can get a buyin to do everything we can to make sure theyre safe, it would be incredible for our city. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Okay. Im going to close Public Comment for this agenda item, and thank you so much, fred, for doing that. Really appreciate it. The next agenda item is item 5, hearing and possible action regarding applications for permits under the jurisdiction of the Entertainment Commission, and im going to ask director azevedo to introduce the items. I want to say thank you very much for your patience, and i hope you still want to get your permits. Thank you very much, president bleiman and commissioners. The first permit on the agenda is a permit for Live Performance for Recovery Room. Recovery room was slated to come before the commission in march, but it was delayed due to covid. Recovery room is a bar and restaurant and is normally open seven days per week and serves american cuisine. They are seeking an l. L. P. Permit to have live bands and other performances until 10 00 p. M. Included in your binder are signatures in support from Recovery Room patrons. Initially, when i sent you the packet, i indicated there was no opposition. However, there was opposition submitted by t submitted. The Building Owner said they were not in opposition to this permit, but they would require us to require sound proofing installation . I did let the Property Owner know that the commission cannot require sound proofing, but we would set a sound limit, and the proper owner did not write me back. I just wanted to make you aware of that. Its not exactly opposition, but i wanted to share. Here to talk to you tonight is the manager, jay. Hello. Can you hear me . Hello, we can hear you. Thank you so much for taking this time out to speak to me. Youre on mute. I can see your mouth moving. Lets see. We can hear you now. Okay. Im not sure how to start, but thank you guys for having me, and thank you for the consideration, and i dont know what else to say. How do i move forward . President bleiman, how do i start . I know Recovery Room, you took over a few years ago. It used to be an irish bar. Yes, sir. You guys want to do some entertainment, i believe, right, with this permit . Yes, yes, sir. Why dont you explain to us exactly what you want to do with this entertainment, how do you think its going to bring your traffic to your business, and tell the rest of the commissioners what its going to be like. Ive been there a few times. Its a fun bar. Thank you, commissioner. Its actually a request from most of my patrons to have just some jazz, just some light music during the day just to keep the place a little livelier, just to add to the neighborhood, just to add to the old school feel of the excelsior itself, and thats what i am thats exactly what im planning to have. Just maybe im not planning to have it every single day. That would just be a little too much on my end to manage. I would plan to have maybe two to three, maximum four days a week, artists from the neighborhood, artists from neighboring neighborhood. Ive spoken to people from hunters point, soul artists from hunters point, out speaking to soul artists from the sunnydale projects. Ive spoken to local artists in the excelsior, and i think im planning to have a poetry night, as well, an open mic, and i just want to have Recovery Room to be a place where people can go and express their art without having to perform in such a huge venue, to the people who know and actually care about what theyre doing. So obviously, d. J. S, whatnot it is kind of a small place. You do have security in the front, though, right . You do serve food. Yours is a 48 license . Yes. You dont really have to, but you do serve a lot of food, you know, i remember. Yes, sir. Yes, we do. But it requires you have to be 21 and over, so you do have a Security Guard checking i. D. S when you have these performances because youre going to be drawing a lot of extra people, so there might be a little bit of crowd control, things like that. Absolutely. That needs to be handled. Absolutely. Do you have that now . Yes, i do. I have inhouse security, and i have guard card. Yeah. Its not much to talk about. Its a pretty cool place, but right now, theres not much entertainment out in the excelsior, correct . Right, theres none. I think there was one comp that, unfortunately, we had to, years ago, kind of dismiss. I believe it was tapatios. Yeah. We want to get a little more action in your neighborhood. I know that the restaurant next door to you kind of shutdown their operations and just does catering because, really, theres not a lot of traffic. Correct. Were hoping this Entertainment Permit will help not just your business but the whole neighborhood. Yeah. So im actually working closely with bob barnwell from, i believe, excelsior action group, and i believe he works with sunday streets . Okay. So, yeah, were in a lot of conversations in how to improve the neighborhood, how to make sunday street better, how just how to how just to draw more people to come to the neighborhood and how to keep the people in the neighborhood, as well, in terms of entertaining. All right. So the understand the limited live is only to a certain time, and no because i guess because of your landlord, therell probably be a sound test. Do you have any sound proofing at all in your building . Not that im not that i know of. I added my personal soundproof in the back room, where we have a tenant that lives upstairs. Shes one of our bartenders, and we did it so she can have some sleep on the days that she doesnt work. Pete, the previous owner, i believe he did not install any sound proofing in the building prior to us. Well, it kind of tells you that if youre just having people noise, that shes being disturbed. Theres not much layers between the roof and probably the people that live above you, so my suggestion is to work with you know, try to work with them because you dont want someone to complain to turn your operations off. All right. Thats all i have. Thank you very much, commissioner lee. All right. Let me get it on gallery here. Any other commissioners comments, questions . Commissioner perez . Hey, jay. Thank you so much for coming here. How are you . Im doing well. I live in the excelsior, so i really appreciate that youre there and youre trying to provide a place for neighbors to gather . We dont have like commissioner lee mentioned, we dont have a lot of entertainment happening in the kpelsor just in anticipati kpelsor excelsior or any neighbors that might be able to complain, do you have any plan of how youll handle any potential complaints that might come . Protocol guidelines for potential how would you address it as they come . Ive actually never had a complaint in terms of noise from any of my neighbors, so that has never really crossed my mind, but we really do on nights that were expecting a large crowd, we do disburse anybody standing in front. We thats number one, and we obviously keep to, you know, the amount of people that can come into the bar and also limiting the number of people that can come into the bar, as well, so thats pretty much what ive been doing. So the potential they will call you. Right. And say hey, can you keep the noise down . So if that is the case, what would be your action . I guess keep the noise down. Thats the best thing that i can do. All right. All right. So youre saying that you will respond to neighbor complaints as soon as you can. Absolutely. I will be there personally at every single event. Oh, you will . Yes, sir. Okay. And youre only asking for a limited Live Performance, so i think it needs to end around midnight 10 00 p. M. Or 10 00 p. M. All right. Good luck, and hopefully, ill get the chance to come back to your bar again and have a drink. Thank you, al. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Other commissioners . All right. Im not seeing anything. Jay, i would just say get a plan in place for your neighbors, get it in place stat. I know it sounds crazy if you havent had any issues and youre there all the time. Im a bar owner myself whos had many bars in San Francisco. Its good to have a plan in place, and when it comes to sound proofing, i wont get into it here, but id be happy to help advise on my experiences with sound proofing, and i think theres some fairly inexpensive ways that can help you out. Theyre not official from the San Francisco Entertainment Commission, but theyre just from my own personal experience. So if that comes up down the line, i would encourage you to reach out to our staff, and they can put you in touch with me, and i can give you a sense of what weve done. Weve had 11 bars in San Francisco, and theres very, very expensive ways that dont work, and theres other ways that do work. Its a very complicated thing, hiring people that tells you whats up. Im happy to lend my help to that because i want you to be successful. Thank you, president. And i would do a little more on the Neighborhood Outreach thing. I would just do everything i can to meet people, especially residents, not businesses who live near you so you can address issues as they come up. If you do have an Entertainment Permit, they may come up, and hopefully when and if hopefully if you do come before us with issues, its really helpful for us to know youve done that. Okay . Yes, sir. On that, i will have Public Comment now. Theres currently nobody waiting for Public Comment. Actually, yes, there is. We just got a hand raised for magic zoom room. All right. Magic zoom room, please state your name and your two minutes. Hi. My name is steven bird. Im a resident in the Mission Terrace neighborhood, and i want to express my support for the permitting of the Recovery Room for Live Performances . This part of the city i think is often sort of overlooked, and venues for arts and culture are limited in comparison to other parts of the city. I think granting this permit to the Recovery Room would enrich the Cultural Landscape of the southern part of San Francisco. Thank you. Thank you. All right. We have another hand raised, nkechi neuberg. Hi, everybody. I just want to say thank you for this commission. Im learning a lot about people that i do actually have a chance to engage with with my art. I think i just wanted to reemphasize that my bid is for opening up areas and spaces that may not have been considered entertainment venues, so just taking some of our open park spaces, even ones that dont have stages, that there could be little alcoves. Were really good at scouting places for art, and i can see wed have staggered events going on in a park throughout a beautiful day. We really appreciate the art when we see it, but a lot of deep reflection and just kind of analyzing of present context that goes in before those shows are brought forward. Its an inner journey as an outer journey, and our whole goal in making art is to make empathy something that people experience. Usually, when people are watching art, especially performative art, theres a chance to engage in more empathy. I believe part of peoples wellbeing is to see empathy modelled, and they can take that empathy back into their lives and have a shift. Its not always a physical shift, but sometimes a spiritual and mental shift, and theres conversations that they continue after in their own homes. I live in the marina, and my hope is we start to include some of those spaces as nontraditional performing art spaces, letting tradition art practicers start to utilize the street at times practicing all the safety measures, and were very much into making it as safe as we can. We just appreciate what you guys are already doing. I just want to say more, i just want to see with no training, but with a really Good Practice all the way to those that are already okay. Sorry. Youre at time. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Theres nobody else with the hand raised for Public Comment, and there are no chat comments, either. Thank you. We will close Public Comment for this agenda item, and we will ask for motions. Oh, one moment. So jay, you had a chance to read the Good Neighbor policy . Yes, sir. Okay. So you know to follow that, you should be in good shape. But on there, theres a lot of helping hints for you to engage your neighbors and what to do about them if they start complaining, so please follow that. But with that in mind, i propose to grant this permit with the condition with the Good Neighborhood policy. Obviously, its a limited live and with the sound test, so they can determine their sound levels so they dont disturb the neighbors upstairs. Commissioner lee, i just want to make mention that there was staff recommendation provision. Ingleside station did provide us a p. D. Recommendation. Okay. One second. So the i can read those for you. Go ahead. Approval of the Good Neighbor policy and notifying via email the ingleside entertainment officer and permits for situational awareness. Okay. With those conditions, i approve this permit. I second your motion to approve with the staff conditions. Okay. Yep . [roll call] congratulations, your permit has been approved. Follow up with our staff at your earliest convenience. Thank you very much for taking your time out. All right. And i believe we have one more permit on the agenda. All right. The final permit on the agenda tonight is for a place of entertainment major amendment to add Outdoor Entertainment at somarts center. So somarts has held a p. O. E. Permit for many years. Entertainment Commission Staff has not yet set an outdoor sound limit, but when programming is scheduled in the future, we will. Somarts staff conducted outreach to 12 businesses and residential buildings in the immediately area. You will see the letter they shared and the method in which they delivered. Southern station approved the permit with the two standard conditions listed here below. Here to talk to you tonight is alex and devon. Hi. Im alex. I have to apologize devon. He was calling in around granville when he got evacuated for a forest fire. Ill be speaking on his behalf tonight. He was at half the meeting. Im have somarts cultural center, and weve been around in this location for about 41 years, maybe 42. Weve had our occupancy, entertainment, and late night permits since 2001, when around the commission was formed. We are a nonprofit arts space in a city owned building. We do not hold inhouse alcohol or a food permits. We do singleuse nonprofit food permitting as needed. So we do our own internal food, and most of our most events are receptions, galas. As kaitlyn mentioned we filed for fundraisers. [inaudible]. Im going to share my screen really quickly, and im going to show you the area, but basically, we have a small outdoor parking lot area, and since covid is in full swing, we want to be able to activate it legitimately, with amplified sound. We often have crowds gather out there, but we want to make using amplified sound official. Are you requesting access or are you able to do it . Oh, there you go. So this is us right here, if you can see my cursor. This little spot here is where were proposing, kind of like right around this area is where were proposing having amplified sound. Theres a big freeway here, and these are the condominiums here, which are the only neighborhood residential tenants. Here is a mercedes dealership. This is their parking lot, under the freeway. This is the Shopping Center that houses a trader joes, and bed bath beyond. Heres a public working lot, and here and here are airbnbs facilities, former adobe building, and yeah, thats sort of the lay of the neighborhood there. We did do a d. B. Test at about 8 00 p. M. , and right here on the corner outside the condominiums, with our sound system at full volume, we went up, oh, roughly 2 d. B. From or actually more like one and change to 67. 9 ambient to 69. 1 average with our sound system on. When a car passed by on the street, it bumped up roughly, on average, to 72 d. B. S, so cars passing were louder than our sound actually carried. If you stand over here, we did a reading from the mercedes parking lot entrance, and the sound here, it was a little bit louder closer to the lot, but not significantly. So yeah, thats kind of the idea. Okay, thank you. Lets start with any commissioners questions, comments. I mean, i knowso somarts is right by the freeway. The freeway has to be louder than any of you ever imagine. Some of if you ever have d. J. S that might be a little bit loud, maybe you might get a few calls from the mercedes dealerships, so have their phone numbers. Ive been to a few of their shows, and theyre great. Im not seeing anything. I dont have anything more to add. Sounds like you have a pretty good plan, and a long track record. Just stay in touch with us, and we will make sure that were aligned on this. Again, i dont have anything serious to bring up. Lets open things up to Public Comment. We have nkechi neuberg waiting to speak. May i please ask people to limit their Public Comment to the agenda item at hand . All right. So i have youre unmuted, nkechi. To be clear, specifically, the agenda item, to be clear, is about basically opening up in public spaces for our art. This agenda item is to have the Entertainment Commission consider granting a major amendment to a place of Public Comment<\/a> for this agenda item, and thank you so much, fred, for doing that. Really appreciate it. The next agenda item is item 5, hearing and possible action regarding applications for permits under the jurisdiction of the Entertainment Commission<\/a>, and im going to ask director azevedo to introduce the items. I want to say thank you very much for your patience, and i hope you still want to get your permits. Thank you very much, president bleiman and commissioners. The first permit on the agenda is a permit for Live Performance<\/a> for Recovery Room<\/a>. Recovery room was slated to come before the commission in march, but it was delayed due to covid. Recovery room is a bar and restaurant and is normally open seven days per week and serves american cuisine. They are seeking an l. L. P. Permit to have live bands and other performances until 10 00 p. M. Included in your binder are signatures in support from Recovery Room<\/a> patrons. Initially, when i sent you the packet, i indicated there was no opposition. However, there was opposition submitted by t submitted. The Building Owner<\/a> said they were not in opposition to this permit, but they would require us to require sound proofing installation . I did let the Property Owner<\/a> know that the commission cannot require sound proofing, but we would set a sound limit, and the proper owner did not write me back. I just wanted to make you aware of that. Its not exactly opposition, but i wanted to share. Here to talk to you tonight is the manager, jay. Hello. Can you hear me . Hello, we can hear you. Thank you so much for taking this time out to speak to me. Youre on mute. I can see your mouth moving. Lets see. We can hear you now. Okay. Im not sure how to start, but thank you guys for having me, and thank you for the consideration, and i dont know what else to say. How do i move forward . President bleiman, how do i start . I know Recovery Room<\/a>, you took over a few years ago. It used to be an irish bar. Yes, sir. You guys want to do some entertainment, i believe, right, with this permit . Yes, yes, sir. Why dont you explain to us exactly what you want to do with this entertainment, how do you think its going to bring your traffic to your business, and tell the rest of the commissioners what its going to be like. Ive been there a few times. Its a fun bar. Thank you, commissioner. Its actually a request from most of my patrons to have just some jazz, just some light music during the day just to keep the place a little livelier, just to add to the neighborhood, just to add to the old school feel of the excelsior itself, and thats what i am thats exactly what im planning to have. Just maybe im not planning to have it every single day. That would just be a little too much on my end to manage. I would plan to have maybe two to three, maximum four days a week, artists from the neighborhood, artists from neighboring neighborhood. Ive spoken to people from hunters point, soul artists from hunters point, out speaking to soul artists from the sunnydale projects. Ive spoken to local artists in the excelsior, and i think im planning to have a poetry night, as well, an open mic, and i just want to have Recovery Room<\/a> to be a place where people can go and express their art without having to perform in such a huge venue, to the people who know and actually care about what theyre doing. So obviously, d. J. S, whatnot it is kind of a small place. You do have security in the front, though, right . You do serve food. Yours is a 48 license . Yes. You dont really have to, but you do serve a lot of food, you know, i remember. Yes, sir. Yes, we do. But it requires you have to be 21 and over, so you do have a Security Guard<\/a> checking i. D. S when you have these performances because youre going to be drawing a lot of extra people, so there might be a little bit of crowd control, things like that. Absolutely. That needs to be handled. Absolutely. Do you have that now . Yes, i do. I have inhouse security, and i have guard card. Yeah. Its not much to talk about. Its a pretty cool place, but right now, theres not much entertainment out in the excelsior, correct . Right, theres none. I think there was one comp that, unfortunately, we had to, years ago, kind of dismiss. I believe it was tapatios. Yeah. We want to get a little more action in your neighborhood. I know that the restaurant next door to you kind of shutdown their operations and just does catering because, really, theres not a lot of traffic. Correct. Were hoping this Entertainment Permit<\/a> will help not just your business but the whole neighborhood. Yeah. So im actually working closely with bob barnwell from, i believe, excelsior action group, and i believe he works with sunday streets . Okay. So, yeah, were in a lot of conversations in how to improve the neighborhood, how to make sunday street better, how just how to how just to draw more people to come to the neighborhood and how to keep the people in the neighborhood, as well, in terms of entertaining. All right. So the understand the limited live is only to a certain time, and no because i guess because of your landlord, therell probably be a sound test. Do you have any sound proofing at all in your building . Not that im not that i know of. I added my personal soundproof in the back room, where we have a tenant that lives upstairs. Shes one of our bartenders, and we did it so she can have some sleep on the days that she doesnt work. Pete, the previous owner, i believe he did not install any sound proofing in the building prior to us. Well, it kind of tells you that if youre just having people noise, that shes being disturbed. Theres not much layers between the roof and probably the people that live above you, so my suggestion is to work with you know, try to work with them because you dont want someone to complain to turn your operations off. All right. Thats all i have. Thank you very much, commissioner lee. All right. Let me get it on gallery here. Any other commissioners comments, questions . Commissioner perez . Hey, jay. Thank you so much for coming here. How are you . Im doing well. I live in the excelsior, so i really appreciate that youre there and youre trying to provide a place for neighbors to gather . We dont have like commissioner lee mentioned, we dont have a lot of entertainment happening in the kpelsor just in anticipati kpelsor excelsior or any neighbors that might be able to complain, do you have any plan of how youll handle any potential complaints that might come . Protocol guidelines for potential how would you address it as they come . Ive actually never had a complaint in terms of noise from any of my neighbors, so that has never really crossed my mind, but we really do on nights that were expecting a large crowd, we do disburse anybody standing in front. We thats number one, and we obviously keep to, you know, the amount of people that can come into the bar and also limiting the number of people that can come into the bar, as well, so thats pretty much what ive been doing. So the potential they will call you. Right. And say hey, can you keep the noise down . So if that is the case, what would be your action . I guess keep the noise down. Thats the best thing that i can do. All right. All right. So youre saying that you will respond to neighbor complaints as soon as you can. Absolutely. I will be there personally at every single event. Oh, you will . Yes, sir. Okay. And youre only asking for a limited Live Performance<\/a>, so i think it needs to end around midnight 10 00 p. M. Or 10 00 p. M. All right. Good luck, and hopefully, ill get the chance to come back to your bar again and have a drink. Thank you, al. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Other commissioners . All right. Im not seeing anything. Jay, i would just say get a plan in place for your neighbors, get it in place stat. I know it sounds crazy if you havent had any issues and youre there all the time. Im a bar owner myself whos had many bars in San Francisco<\/a>. Its good to have a plan in place, and when it comes to sound proofing, i wont get into it here, but id be happy to help advise on my experiences with sound proofing, and i think theres some fairly inexpensive ways that can help you out. Theyre not official from the San Francisco<\/a> Entertainment Commission<\/a>, but theyre just from my own personal experience. So if that comes up down the line, i would encourage you to reach out to our staff, and they can put you in touch with me, and i can give you a sense of what weve done. Weve had 11 bars in San Francisco<\/a>, and theres very, very expensive ways that dont work, and theres other ways that do work. Its a very complicated thing, hiring people that tells you whats up. Im happy to lend my help to that because i want you to be successful. Thank you, president. And i would do a little more on the Neighborhood Outreach<\/a> thing. I would just do everything i can to meet people, especially residents, not businesses who live near you so you can address issues as they come up. If you do have an Entertainment Permit<\/a>, they may come up, and hopefully when and if hopefully if you do come before us with issues, its really helpful for us to know youve done that. Okay . Yes, sir. On that, i will have Public Comment<\/a> now. Theres currently nobody waiting for Public Comment<\/a>. Actually, yes, there is. We just got a hand raised for magic zoom room. All right. Magic zoom room, please state your name and your two minutes. Hi. My name is steven bird. Im a resident in the Mission Terrace<\/a> neighborhood, and i want to express my support for the permitting of the Recovery Room<\/a> for Live Performance<\/a>s . This part of the city i think is often sort of overlooked, and venues for arts and culture are limited in comparison to other parts of the city. I think granting this permit to the Recovery Room<\/a> would enrich the Cultural Landscape<\/a> of the southern part of San Francisco<\/a>. Thank you. Thank you. All right. We have another hand raised, nkechi neuberg. Hi, everybody. I just want to say thank you for this commission. Im learning a lot about people that i do actually have a chance to engage with with my art. I think i just wanted to reemphasize that my bid is for opening up areas and spaces that may not have been considered entertainment venues, so just taking some of our open park spaces, even ones that dont have stages, that there could be little alcoves. Were really good at scouting places for art, and i can see wed have staggered events going on in a park throughout a beautiful day. We really appreciate the art when we see it, but a lot of deep reflection and just kind of analyzing of present context that goes in before those shows are brought forward. Its an inner journey as an outer journey, and our whole goal in making art is to make empathy something that people experience. Usually, when people are watching art, especially performative art, theres a chance to engage in more empathy. I believe part of peoples wellbeing is to see empathy modelled, and they can take that empathy back into their lives and have a shift. Its not always a physical shift, but sometimes a spiritual and mental shift, and theres conversations that they continue after in their own homes. I live in the marina, and my hope is we start to include some of those spaces as nontraditional performing art spaces, letting tradition art practicers start to utilize the street at times practicing all the safety measures, and were very much into making it as safe as we can. We just appreciate what you guys are already doing. I just want to say more, i just want to see with no training, but with a really Good Practice<\/a> all the way to those that are already okay. Sorry. Youre at time. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Theres nobody else with the hand raised for Public Comment<\/a>, and there are no chat comments, either. Thank you. We will close Public Comment<\/a> for this agenda item, and we will ask for motions. Oh, one moment. So jay, you had a chance to read the Good Neighbor<\/a> policy . Yes, sir. Okay. So you know to follow that, you should be in good shape. But on there, theres a lot of helping hints for you to engage your neighbors and what to do about them if they start complaining, so please follow that. But with that in mind, i propose to grant this permit with the condition with the Good Neighbor<\/a>hood policy. Obviously, its a limited live and with the sound test, so they can determine their sound levels so they dont disturb the neighbors upstairs. Commissioner lee, i just want to make mention that there was staff recommendation provision. Ingleside station did provide us a p. D. Recommendation. Okay. One second. So the i can read those for you. Go ahead. Approval of the Good Neighbor<\/a> policy and notifying via email the ingleside entertainment officer and permits for situational awareness. Okay. With those conditions, i approve this permit. I second your motion to approve with the staff conditions. Okay. Yep . [roll call] congratulations, your permit has been approved. Follow up with our staff at your earliest convenience. Thank you very much for taking your time out. All right. And i believe we have one more permit on the agenda. All right. The final permit on the agenda tonight is for a place of entertainment major amendment to add Outdoor Entertainment<\/a> at somarts center. So somarts has held a p. O. E. Permit for many years. Entertainment Commission Staff<\/a> has not yet set an outdoor sound limit, but when programming is scheduled in the future, we will. Somarts staff conducted outreach to 12 businesses and residential buildings in the immediately area. You will see the letter they shared and the method in which they delivered. Southern station approved the permit with the two standard conditions listed here below. Here to talk to you tonight is alex and devon. Hi. Im alex. I have to apologize devon. He was calling in around granville when he got evacuated for a forest fire. Ill be speaking on his behalf tonight. He was at half the meeting. Im have somarts cultural center, and weve been around in this location for about 41 years, maybe 42. Weve had our occupancy, entertainment, and late night permits since 2001, when around the commission was formed. We are a nonprofit arts space in a city owned building. We do not hold inhouse alcohol or a food permits. We do singleuse nonprofit food permitting as needed. So we do our own internal food, and most of our most events are receptions, galas. As kaitlyn mentioned we filed for fundraisers. [inaudible]. Im going to share my screen really quickly, and im going to show you the area, but basically, we have a small outdoor parking lot area, and since covid is in full swing, we want to be able to activate it legitimately, with amplified sound. We often have crowds gather out there, but we want to make using amplified sound official. Are you requesting access or are you able to do it . Oh, there you go. So this is us right here, if you can see my cursor. This little spot here is where were proposing, kind of like right around this area is where were proposing having amplified sound. Theres a big freeway here, and these are the condominiums here, which are the only neighborhood residential tenants. Here is a mercedes dealership. This is their parking lot, under the freeway. This is the Shopping Center<\/a> that houses a trader joes, and bed bath beyond. Heres a public working lot, and here and here are airbnbs facilities, former adobe building, and yeah, thats sort of the lay of the neighborhood there. We did do a d. B. Test at about 8 00 p. M. , and right here on the corner outside the condominiums, with our sound system at full volume, we went up, oh, roughly 2 d. B. From or actually more like one and change to 67. 9 ambient to 69. 1 average with our sound system on. When a car passed by on the street, it bumped up roughly, on average, to 72 d. B. S, so cars passing were louder than our sound actually carried. If you stand over here, we did a reading from the mercedes parking lot entrance, and the sound here, it was a little bit louder closer to the lot, but not significantly. So yeah, thats kind of the idea. Okay, thank you. Lets start with any commissioners questions, comments. I mean, i knowso somarts is right by the freeway. The freeway has to be louder than any of you ever imagine. Some of if you ever have d. J. S that might be a little bit loud, maybe you might get a few calls from the mercedes dealerships, so have their phone numbers. Ive been to a few of their shows, and theyre great. Im not seeing anything. I dont have anything more to add. Sounds like you have a pretty good plan, and a long track record. Just stay in touch with us, and we will make sure that were aligned on this. Again, i dont have anything serious to bring up. Lets open things up to Public Comment<\/a>. We have nkechi neuberg waiting to speak. May i please ask people to limit their Public Comment<\/a> to the agenda item at hand . All right. So i have youre unmuted, nkechi. To be clear, specifically, the agenda item, to be clear, is about basically opening up in public spaces for our art. This agenda item is to have the Entertainment Commission<\/a> consider granting a major amendment to a place of Entertainment Permit<\/a> to allow them to use outdoor amplified sound and entertainment on an ongoing basis, so essentially expanding their premises. Yeah. So yeah, i think ill just agree with that, and i would just say to bump it earlier on whatever plan, so we dont get bumped down, move from stage four, be more part of the present stages that are going on right now, and yeah, and just say that, you know, this is just the beginning for us because more will be revealed based on all the creativity that will be generated specifically for this purpose, so thats my encouragement. That we get to rehearse, start off in very small environments, places that are similar to the San Francisco<\/a> arts festival. So thats my reminder. We are the ones making art for 21 and 22, so weve got to get some things started now, so we have projects for 21 and 22. Thats it. Thanks. Thank you. All right. There is nobody else with their hand raised for Public Comment<\/a>, and there are no chats comments, either. All right. Were going to close Public Comment<\/a> for that. President bleiman, should i go ahead and read the staff recommendations . That would be very helpful, thank you. Okay. Ill go ahead and do that now. So the staff recommendation is approval with the Good Neighbor<\/a> policy and recommendations conditions. One, promoter will be responsible for the patrons on the inside and outside of the venue. Two, notify the southern stations permit officer, supervisors, of their calendar of events where amplified sound events will occur between 10 00 p. M. And 2 00 a. M. We need a motion to approve this motion. Ill raise a motion to approve with the proposed conditions from staff. I second. [roll call] all right. Congratulations, alex. Your permits been approved, and we appreciate you coming in. Please follow with our staff at your earliest convenience for next steps, and thank you. Yeah, thank you. Appreciate your support. Good luck. Thanks so much. All right. I think were getting to a close here. The final agenda item is number 6, which is commissioners questions and comments. Anybody oh, commissioner thomas . Id like to ask that we agendize a report from the Queer Night Life Fund<\/a> life fun commission. They just agendized a twohour session headed by honey mahogany, and they wrote a report of what came out of it. I think just with the independent venue presentation today, it would be great to sort of hear whats going on with the state of our great nightlife, to hear some of the recommendations, so id love to figure out how to put them on a future agenda to present their findings and just give us a bit of an update around the state of our nightlife. Im happy to do that. Ill reach out to them. Thank you. I have a question for laura. Yeah. Since you do a lot of state stuff for health, is there anybody up there in state of california, the state health department, that we can find out, you know, how can we start making some protocols that they might approve to help these venues, you know . Whether we just, without entertainment, let them open up as bars and let them have, you know, social distancing inside or, you know, something . I mean, theres got to be we might be another six months before we even get to go inside, and we cant just be you know, and its really theyre holding all the cards, right . Yeah. I mean, its a combination of both the state and the county, and obviously, this is kind of uncharted territory for everyone, right . Like, theyve never been asked to come up with these kinds of protocols or decisions. And i dont even know necessarily what, you know the research is that thats out there that you would base this on, but im going to try to follow up with maggie tomorrow, and im also wondering if some of the different sort of National Networks<\/a> of entertainment groups and socialable city types were are looking [inaudible]. To reopenen venue safely that came out, yeah. There are things out there. [inaudible] sorry. No, i just feel like, in my experience, the d. P. H. Staff are working super, super hard on a whole bunch of stuff that, you know, they even though they plan for these kinds of things, they dont necessarily have experience in managing a Public Health<\/a> emergency like they currently are . So people, you know, are being pulled out of their regular jobs to work on other stuff, and theyre stretched really thin, and i dont think theres anyone there who particularly has expertise in, you know, sort of viral spread through singing or brass instruments, so i think we may need to find some of that expertise to help them with developing these protocols. I think we can do that, but i think i just saw on the news earlier, one state just opened their bowling alleys, so thats an interesting sign, you know, if theyre opening their bowling alleys, at least thats one step, but i dont know how long thats going to last, right . Yeah. Which state, steven . It was on the with the the department of Public Health<\/a>. And again, i think just which how hard you all work. Thank you. Thank you, nola. All right. Nkechi, lets try again. Wait. Did she post via the chat . Yeah. Im just sending it. Sorry. So you only get one comment. Its either chat or public, and weve already read your chat comment, but we appreciate it, but we cant do two. Its the law. I appreciate it, yeah. Its new to me, so yeah. Its complicated, but its there for fairness. Senior analyst, are there any other comments . There are none. All right. With that, we will adjourn this meeting at 7 52 p. M. I believe the next meeting, were going to have a lot to do. Thank you. Everybody stay safe. Thank you. Bye, commissioners. The Public Utilities<\/a> commission id like to call to order the regular meeting of the San Francisco<\/a> Public Utilities<\/a> commission. Todays date is use, august 25, 2020. Roll call, please. [roll call]. We have a quorum. Very good. 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