The meeting comes to order, the august 19th, rescheduled budget and appropriations meeting. Im sandra lee fewer and joined by the Committee Members, supervisors walton and mandelman and ronen and norman yee. Our clerk is miss linda wong. I thank sfgovtv for broadcasting this meeting. And also, supervisor walton will be joining us a little later. Can we have a motion to excuse him for the first beginning part of the meeting. So moved. Chair fewer thank you very much, can i have a second, please. Second. Chair fewer could i have a roll call vote please. Clerk yes, on the motion. [roll call] there are four ayes. Chair fewer thank you very much. Madam clerk, do you have any announcements. Clerk due to the covid19 health emergency, the City Employees and the board of supervisors legislative and the committee room, and the members will be participating in a meeting remotely. This is for the local and state and federal orders and declarations and orders. The meeting is through Video Conferencing and participate as if physically present. Public comments are available on each item on this agenda and channel 26 and fo sfgovtv. Org e streaming the number across the korean. The opportunity to speak during Public Comment period are available via phone call by calling 1 415 6550001. Again, 1 415 6550001. And meeting i. D. , 146 347 6022. Again, 146 347 6022. And then press pound twice. When connected you will hear the meeting discussion but you will be muted and in listening mode only. When your item of interest comes up, press star, 3, to be added to the speaker line. The best practices are to call from a quiet location, speak clearly and slowly and turn down your television or radio. And alternatively, you can make Public Comment in any of the ways, the budget and finance Committee Clerk at. And if you submit Public Comment via email it will be forwarded to the supervisors and will be included as part of the official file. Finally, items acted upon today are expected to appear on the board of supervisors agenda of september 15, unless otherwise stated. Chair fewer thank you very much. Good morning, everyone. This weeks hearings are focused on the reductions that the Budget Committee would like to make to the department budgets. A few things to note before we begin before calling the departments this morning we are going to hear about the trailing legislation first and then come back to items 1 and 2 which are budget items. My office will release an updated list of requests which now totals 364 million in year one. I will also be releasing a proposed spending plan to focus on key priorities which are posted online and my office will distribute to offices. Again, what im putting out is a conservative spending plan for 20 million since we do want know how much the board will have to allocate. The hears are noted separately, but this is all one meeting. Well recess, not adjourn, at the end of every day and picking back up the following day at 10 00 a. M. This means that theres one continual meeting for wednesday, thursday and friday. For that reason there is no Public Comment this week on the budget. Which is items 1 and 2. All Public Comment on the budget will be heard on monday, august 24th beginning at 10 00 a. M. Theres no other business on monday except for hearing Public Comment. The budget and Appropriations Committee will recess at approximately 12 30 or 1 00 p. M. For a 30minute lunch. As much as possible well hear the departments in the order listed, but i want to recognize that we sometimes need to accommodate scheduling conflicts and call out of order. And today were hearing the following departments likely in the following order controller, city administrator, retirement, technology, public works, general city responsibility, human resources, library, rec and park, children, youth and families, Mayors Office, city attorney, elections, board of supervisors. With that, lets get started. Madam clerk, can you please call items 3 and 4. Clerk the resolution concurring with the controllers certification that Department Services previously approved can be performed by private contractor for a lower cost than similar work performed by the city and county employees. And item 4, resolution concurring with the controllers certification that Department Services can be performed by private contractor for a lower cost than similar work performed to the city and county employees. To call for Public Comment, 1 415 6550001, and i. D. , 146 347 6022 and then press pound twice. If you have not already done so, please dial star, 3, to line up to speak. And wait until the system indicates that you have been unmuted and you can may begin your comments. Chair fewer thank you very much. And today we have reesea sandler from the Controllers Office and she can introduce everybody else. Hi, lisa. Hi, good morning. Im reesa sandler from the Controllers Office and just back with the continued two items for previously approved prop j resolution and not previously approved prop j resolutions. There are Department Staff on hand if you have questions. I am happy to answer any questions myself. Chair fewer any comments or questions from colleagues . Seeing none, can we take Public Comment for the items. Clerk yes, madam chair. Operation, checking to see if theres callers in the queue. As a reminder this is not a general Public Comment on the budget that occurs on monday august 24th. If you have not already done so, press star 3, to be added to the queue. For those already on hold, wait until the system has you unmuted. Are there any commenters on items 3 and 4 . Madam chair, theres no callers in the queue. Chair fewer thank you very much. Public comment is closed for items 3 and 4. I want to mention that i really singled out the prop j contracts just because i think that this contracting out should be really looked at. Year after year were asked to approve these prop j contracts and after next year, they should look at this and with much more scrutiny. And even more so if we are experiencing layoffs of our City Employees. With that, i would like to make a motion to send this to the full board. Could i have a second, please . Second. Presiden chair fewer can a roll call vote, please. Clerk yes, on the motion [roll call] there are four ayes. Chair fewer thank you very much. Call items 8 and 9. Clerk yell 8, ordinance authorizing the execution and delivery of certificates of participation in one or more series from time to time evidencing and representing an aggregate Principal Amount not to exceed 97,500,000, to prepay certain certificates of participation that financed and refinanced various Capital Improvement projects. Item 9, the ordinance disappropriating 4. 6 million of series 2010a refunding certificates of participation prior reserve funds and appropriating 02,136,200 of refunding certificates of participation series 2020r1, including deappropriated funds and 97,500,000, one or more series of refunding certificates of participation proceeds for fy20202021. If you want wish to call, call 1 415 6550001 and i. D. 146 347 6022. Please wait until the system indicates that you have been unmuted and you may begin your comments. Chair fewer today we have anna, and the office of public finance. Good morning, supervisors, and thank you. Im luke, with the office of public finance. And im going to share a quick little slide with you today about our upcoming proposed refunding certificates of participation. These are we have identified funding candidates here in finance which can be refunded as soon as october 2020. And we estimate that it will produce savings depending on Market Conditions, and gross savings to the fund of 13. 8 billion, based on an estimated Interest Rate of 2. 6 or approximately 1 million annually. Which on a net value basis is 11. 2 million or 12 of the total outstanding principal. We are seeking the approval of the ordinance to authorize and the supplemental ordinance appropriating the 2020 r1 funding proceeds, not to exceed 97. 5 million and the final is october 30, 2023. Are there any questions . Chair fewer yes. Any comments from my colleagues . President yee im sorry chair fewer go ahead, president yee. President yee is this refinancing simply that would be for 13 years . Or what . It would be existing certificates of participation that were looking at, the final maturity of those, the existing debt is 13 years. So we will match maturity to final maturity of the new refunding certificate. President yee any reason that you want to keep the length of time the same . So certificates of participation are a lease back structure and because of that we tend to try and to match the term of the lease closely with the term of the original asset. So the term of this being 2033, would have been 30 years from the time of the originally anticipated completion of the county jail number 5. At that time they gave it a 30year term just based on useful life, which is typically 70 years for jails. President yee and what happens to the when we say 1 million, does it go back to general funds or where are the savings . So the savings these two pieces are in that way, according to the mayors Budget Office, that we communicated, those savings are to go to the general fund. President yee okay. So is that an indiscernible back . The savings need to be realized first before they can be programmed, in case the bond Market Conditions change. The market is pretty volatile right now and were looking to get in before the election, but, you know, the rates could move quite a bit. So we dont want to program anything just in case the rates spike up and were not able to close the financing. Should the rates continue to be as low as they are now, hopefully well get even better savings than were currently estimating. President yee okay, thank you. Chair fewer any more questions or comments . Seeing none. Madam clerk, can you please call for Public Comment on these items. Clerk yes, madam chair. Operations are checking to see if theres callers in the queue. Let me know if there are any callers that are ready. If you have not already done so press star, 3, to be added to the queue. For those already on hold, continue to wait until the system indicates that you have been unmuted. And if there are any callers who wish to comment on items 8 and 9 . Madam chair, there are no callers in the queue. Chair fewer Public Comment is now closed. I make a motion to move items 8 and 9 to the board with a positive recommendation. The Board Meeting of september 15th. Could i have a second, please. Second. Chair fewer roll call vote, please. Clerk yes, on the motion [roll call] what are we voting on . I am sorry, i just logged in. Chair fewer on items 8 and 9. Aye. Clerk there are five ayes. Chair fewer thank you. So, colleagues, i miss that there is a b. L. A. Report for items 8 and 9, so if you would like to refer to it, i apologize that we didnt call for the b. L. A. Report. But i am assuming that you all have access to that report. Lets move on to can you call please items 5, 6 and 10. Clerk yes, madam chair. The ordare draft ordinance amending administrative code, section 8. 14, to adjust the office of the chief medical examiners fees to add postmortem investigation services, remove obsolete services, and update to all amounts to fy20202021. And item 6, ordinance amending the administrative code to authorize the department of Administrative Services to impose a fee for reproduction and Notary Services provided to the public. And item 7, ordinance amending the administrative code to update county clerk fees to current amounts and to authorize the county clerk to impose a Digital Signature fee. And item number 10, hearing to consider the release of reserved funds to the office of the city administrator, placed on the budget and finance committee reserve by ordinance number 16919. The public that wishes to comment on these, call 1 415 6550001. Meeting i. D. , 146 347 6022 and press pound twice. And if you have already done so, press star, 3, and line up to comment. And wait until the system indicates that you may begin your comments. Chair fewer thank you very much. I think that there are representatives from the city administrators. Are you here . I am. Chair fewer great. Lets take item 5 first, please. Good morning, chair fewer and the members of the budget and Appropriations Committees. The deputy city initiate your. And amending the fees charged by the chief medical examiner. Its primarily deleting fees that we no longer need for doing this, and as well as updating a number of these and adding some new fews from our Forensic Laboratory who is who are now able to do some outside testing as needed. And so one of the hopes that when the new office of the chief medical examiner was built a couple years ago, and we now have a Forensic Laboratory, is that the lab, once it developed full capacity, would be able to provide services and potentially provide additional income into the city to support its operations. By providing the services to outside agencies. And so the keys established here allow for the outside entities to be charged for that work if its developed in the future. Its that work that were currently doing but were just allowing for it to happen in the future. And then finally, the fees are adjusted by the c. T. I. Increases that are allowed. And before you today is actually the amended version of what was originally noticed and advertised and that was due to the fact that the version in the original packit and part of the original notice does not reflect the c. T. I. Increases that were allowed. And that were authorizing in legislation. And so with that, i will take any questions. Chair fewer thank you very much. There is no b. L. A. Report on this item. Is there any comments or questions from my colleagues at all . Seeing none. Could we take Public Comment on item number 5, please. Clerk yes, madam chair. Operation is checking to see if theres any callers in the queue. Operations, please let us know if there are any callers that are ready. If you have not already done so, press star, 3, to be added to the queue. For those already on hold, continue to wait until the system indicates that you have been unmuted. And operations, let us know if there are any callers to comment on item number 5. Madam chair, there are no callers in the queue. Chair fewer thank you very much. Public comment for item number 5 is now closed. And there is an amendment i believe, madam clerk, that we need to approve, is that correct . I make a motion to approve the amendment. Could i have a second, please. Second. Chair fewer roll call vote please on the amendment. Clerk yes. On the motion [roll call] there are five ayes. Chair fewer i would like to make a motion to move this as amended to the budget and finance Committee Meeting on september 2nd. Could i have a second, please . Second. Chair fewer roll call vote, please. Clerk yes, on the motion [roll call] there are five ayes. Chair fewer thank you very much. Madam clerk oh, now lets hear item 6 and 7. Yes, item 6 is to provide new fees for Reproduction Services through repromill. Its an internal Services Department and it provides reproduction and Mailing Services for other city departments as part of the new feature, we are creating with the new permit center at 49 south van ness, we want a center for the members of the public if they brought in items and they needed updated versions of their plans or other things printed there, as well as any signage they would normally to have to go to the department. And so this through legislation establishes fees to award those services for the public. Chair fewer thank you very much. Any comments or questions . There is no b. L. A. Report on these two items. Any comments or questions . Seeing no one in the queue, can you open up Public Comment for items 6 and 7. Clerk yes, madam chair. Operations are checking to see if theres callers in the queue. Operations, let us know if there are callers that are ready. If you have not already done so, press star, 3, to be added to the queue. For those already on hold, wait until you have been unmuted. Can the clerk let us know if there are callers to comment on items 6 and 7 . Madam chair, there are no callers in the queue. Chair fewer thank you very much. Public comment on item 6 and 7 7 are now closed. I make a motion to move this to the full board with a positive recommendation, to the meeting of september 15th. A second, please. Second. Chair fewer roll call vote please, madam clerk. Clerk on the motion [roll call] there are five ayes. Chair fewer thank you very much. And now item number 10, mr. Bor cowski and we do have a b. L. A. Report. And first hear from you, and then from the b. L. A. . So item 10 is a request to release the funding that was placed on budget and finance committee reserve during the 1920 budget discussions and so at that point in time because the b. L. A. Agreement had not been finalized, the Labor Agreement was not finalized, it was not clear when to have enforcement of that agreement. And that agreement was it was finalized and went into effect on july 14th of this year. And so we are now requesting that two of those positions and the funding related to two of those positions be released from reserve so we can move forward with the work needed to support the agreement. Chair fewer thank you very much. Can we hear from the b. L. A. , please. Hello miss severn. How are you . Good morning, chair fewer and members of the committee. This could be released, salary and fridge benefits for two conditions that were allocated for the project Labor Agreement which went into effect in july of this year. On page 10 of our report we show the salary benefit costs, and we recommend approval of the release of these reserves. And im available for any questions. Chair fewer thank you very much. Any questions or comments from my colleagues . Yes, president yee. President yee are these positions already occupied . No, theyre not. They were so the release of reserve means that theyre filled as of october 1st. Chair fewer okay. Go ahead, president yee. President yee are these positions crucial or something . They are crucial if it is desired for the Labor Agreement to be implemented, yes. President yee its crucial then, okay. Chair fewer i have a question. So its my understanding that there was another position, a third position, and a contract compliance officer. Is this f. T. A. Still needed . Because i actually am interested in exploring the elimination of this position. Because i think that there were three positions originally put on reserve. And youre asking for the release of two positions but there was a third position also that was in reserve. So is this f. T. E. Still needed . Because i am actually looking at eliminating this position for one year. We made the conscious decision that we did not need the f. T. E. As of october to begin the implementation. But that left open the possibility to come back to the board during the fiscal year depending on the work that was coming forward and making a request for release of reserve funds for that other position. I also have pat mulligan here today, the director of the office of enforcement, and he might be able to provide some additional detail or response to that. Chair fewer sure. Mr. Mulligan . Hi, pat. There i am, sorry. Thank you, supervisor. So we are anticipating with the rollout of the project Labor Agreement that theres a lot of Capital Projects that are in flux right now. So we feel confident that we can handle the implementation, which is two positions, at least through the first 12 months, the first fiscal year cycle. And then were looking for maybe next fiscal year to see if that position was necessary. And also depending on the budgetary constraints in the following fiscal year. Chair fewer okay, thats great. Because i think that we can probably eliminate that third position for the first year. But keeping open for the second year just in case, and construction and we dont know how its going or anything. But i think that would happen actually when we actually talk about your budget which is coming up, correct, right . Yes, president yee . President yee since this is for the money in reserves, why do we need to wait until we talk about his budget . Chair fewer because we would president yee we could free it up from reserve now . Chair fewer is there someone who could give me advice on this . Chair fewer, supervisor yee, the release of these reserves covers the cost of the two positions. The third position, the way theyve written the reserve, all of the moneys that were on reserve would not cover the third position. I think that what could happen during the discussion of the Administrative Services budget is to place the salary and Fringe Benefits of that third position to actually basically increase attrition savings for one year to cover the cost of that position. So that i believe that would be about 215,000 and i could give you the exact number to be considered during the actual deliberation of the budget itself. President yee okay, thank you. Chair fewer, and excuse me one of the things we want to confirm is that actual full Salary Amount is included in our budget as was just mentioned. Whether the reserve amount that was set aside covered the cost of that full reserve. So we dont have sufficient money budgeted to cover that full reserve and you cut that total amount then youre overreducing our budget. So i wanted to make sure chair fewer so we approve item 10 now and then later when we have budget discussions were able to take that salary and Fringe Benefits for first year. Right . Got it. Okay. Having said that, lets open it up for Public Comment, madam clerk. Clerk yes, 345 madam chair. Operations, checking to see if theres callers in the queue. Operations, let us know if there are callers that are ready. If you have not done so press star, 3, to be added to the queue. And for those on hold, continue to wait until the system indicates that you have been unmuted. Please let us know if there are callers who wish to comment on item number 10. Madam chair, there are no callers in the queue. Chair fewer thank you very much, Public Comment on item number 10 is now closed. Id like to make a motion to file this hearing and could i have a second, please. Clerk thank you, madam chair. The request to release reserve funds . Chair fewer yes. Yes, thats the action yes, you can take that action, absolutely right, thank you very much. Clerk is there a second . Second. Chair fewer roll call vote, please. Clerk on the motion to release the request reserve funds and to file the hearing [roll call] there are five ayes. Chair fewer thank you very much. So, madam clerk, can you call items 1 and 2. Clerk yes, madam chair. Item 1, budget and appropriation ordinance appropriating all estimated receipts and all estimated expenditures for departments of the city and county as of july 31st, 2020, and ending june 30, 2021, and june 30, 2022. Item number 2, annual salary ordinance enumerating positions in the annual budget and appropriation ordinance for the years ending june 30, 2021, and june to, 2022. To give Public Comment, call 1 415 6550001. Sorry, there are no Public Comments on items 1 and 2. Chair fewer thank you very much. So before we start, i just wanted to say to our Department Heads that are listening that this budget process is set up to be somewhat adversarial. You have budgets and the mayor has a proposed budget, and then the board of supervisors comes in with the help of the b. L. A. To help us to find waste and also where we can actually then tighten up the budget. I know that the Department Heads, i have heard from many of them, fighting really hard for their departments. So i just wanted to begin this conversation by thanking all of our City Employees and our hardworking Department Heads. I know that you are fighting for your budgets to better serve the people of San Francisco. And i just want to say thank you. You know, i think that people i mean, those of us that serve on this committee take this job very seriously and that we find efficiencies because this money is earne earned on the hardworg backs of san franciscans. But we also recognize that as Public Servants you serve them, and we could not operate the city without you. So before we start, theres a series of sometimes contentious conversations, and i just wanted to acknowledge the fine work of our Public Employees and the honorable and respectful work that you do every day to serve the residents of this wonderful city. And with that, well start with our controller, mr. Ben rosenfield. Good morning, chair fewer and members of the committee, ben rosenfield, city controller. And thank you for the kind words. And i would like to thank the legislative analysts for their work to review our budget. We are in agreement with their recommendations that you have in front of you. Just to highlight the followup question that the committee had for us last week, we have eliminated our general fund travel in our proposed budget, at the recommendations before you, eliminate the Nongeneral Fund travel for the coming fiscal year as well at the committees request and were in agreement with that. Im happy to answer any questions. Chair fewer any comments or questions . Seeing none, i would ask that are we sort of in general agreement where just a nod, Committee Members, that were in agreement with the controller and accepting things and thank you very much to the Controllers Office. Take note of the committees attention to accept the b. L. A. Recommendations for this department. Thank you very much. And the next department that we have is the city administrator. And is mr. Pocowski. Hi, ken. Okay, yes, what do you have to say . We, chair fewer, we are in agreement with the b. L. A. Report before you today. Chair fewer thank you very much. And then this is the added one f. T. E. That i think that the b. L. A. Has recommended that since we could place this as part of attrition, im thinking with the salary savings, right, and the benefit and salary that comes to about 215,000 for the first year. And this to add back to the pot, also, is that correct . That is correct, chair fewer. Chair fewer thank you very much. And mr. Pocowski were in agreement with that so the request from the b. L. A. And then also theres one position for the fiscal year, the first year, we are in agreement . Chair fewer, i can confirm the understanding. So the f. T. E. Remains in the budget, the attrition is adjusted by the 212,000, the exact amount of the position value. Chair fewer is that correct . I seek general agreement among my colleagues to accept these cuts. Please then, mr. Controllers office, can you take note of the committees attention to accept the b. L. A. Recommendations for this department. Thank you. Chair chair fewer yes, madam clerk . Clerk i just wanted to note that president yee would like to speak. Chair fewer im so sorry. President yee . President yee are we just do we have other cuts that we want to do to talk about it or what . Chair fewer yes, i believe so. Are there other cuts in the city administrators budget that youd like to bring to our attention . President yee well, i dont know how it fits in, and this is it may not be this department. Im trying to figure it out as im looking at the reports. So theres a b. L. A. Report on the indiscernible that we use and i dont know whether or not these vehicles are controlled by the city administrator or the departments themselves. So its a little confusing for me right now and i havent had time to absorb everything. Chair fewer president yee, we are also able to call the departments back if you would like also more time. But, if not, why dont we ask our b. L. A. Right now. Mr. Goncher, we heard from president yee that hes interested in the efficiencies around the leasing of vehicles and whether or not the vehicles are leased through just the Administrators Office or leased through the individual departments . Chair fewer, the legislative analyst office. I believe that the Lease Services manages those vehicles. But they are budgeted in individual departments. We have reviewed all of the equipment requests, including all departments that we are reviewing this year. And we have made recommendations within each of those department reports. Chair fewer okay. President yee president yee so so this is not about cutting, actually. I know that you dont want to hear it, chair fewer, but when i looked at the report, theres one of the things that is needed is somebody to monitor all of this stuff. And theres nobody assumed to be responsible in terms of the leasing piece of it. And we need to get reports. And the other issue is where theres inefficiencies and disputes and things that shouldnt happen when city drivers drive these vehicles. And, again, we could save money in terms of gas and everything else, but it takes somebody to call it out and say and to actually try to get the departments to focus on on where the efforts to reduce these types of inefficiencies. So what im seeing is a need for somebody chair fewer oversight . President yee yeah, to do some oversight on that. Chair fewer sure. President yee so im just sort of um, putting the seed out there, or planting the seeds right now, to have additional staffing, okay . Chair fewer no, no, i was just wondering how we could do it. Im just thinking that if a deeper analysis and just a supplemental for a position later on to fill this position. Thats great. Yes, mr. Powcowski. Two things. One specifically on that topic raised by president yee, we are happy to work with his office and we have not seen the b. L. A. Report referenced in this mornings paper and but we are happy to work with the office and to figure out ways to play a coordination role and any resources are needed to support that. We do not manage them for the departments in any way. Second, i wanted to say that my Budget Officer just texted me to say that the funding for the salary for the position that we were talking about, defunding for the current year, we still have 226,000 on reserve, and the funding that we would request or maybe wed have to come back with a followup request for that funding to be taken off of reserve. And that would be provided as part of the budget savings. Chair fewer why dont we why dont we have you come back for that. Would that be the citys admiAdministrators Office, or, mr. Controller, do you have a recommendation . I was going recommend, chair fewer, that the committee could actually release that reserve as part of your final actions on the budget next week, if that is the committees desire. Chair fewer okay. Lets do that. To add that to the list for next week. Chair fewer okay, well add it to the list for next week. And i see that we have general agreement with the city administrators, agreement to take these cuts. So the Controllers Office, take note of the committees intent to accept the recommendations of this department. Thank you very much. And lets move to the next department, retirement. Good morning, supervisors. Chair fewer good morning. As i didnt have an opportunity last week to present to you, i just wanted to give you sort of an update on the status of the retirement system. I want to assure you that we even though we had very difficult financial climate over the last year, we did well. We did not earn 7. 4 , however, we believe that when we get the final valuations of the Market Portfolio that well come in around 2. 5 as a return. That would still be within the top quarterile of all Pension Plans in the united states. And more importantly the plan remains very well funded as the valuation. And we indiscernible which is extraordinary for the public Pension Plans in the united states. Since we didnt earn the 7. 4 , we expect that will probably take a couple Percentage Points on the valuation in july of this year. But, again, i wanted to just assure you that were doing the best that we can. The Pension Trust at the end of july was 27. 4 billion. Which is nearly 1. 5 billion more than it was last year. And that is in addition to paying nearly a billion and a half dollars in Public Pensions over the year. So with that, as far as our budget, when we resubmitted it we certainly focused on our travel budget. Travel, as you know, is currently prohibited. And we dont know when or if it will ever become safe or necessary to travel again. Our Investment Team has not really skipped a beat and they continue to conduct their Due Diligence and their meetings with managers remotely. And so i think that were well prepared to go forward. Sort of indefinitely as we all are, assuming that we were going to need to conduct all of our Due Diligence and all of our meetings remotely. And we with that ill be happy to answer any questions. We certainly well, i shouldnt say certainly. We accept the recommendation from the b. L. A. Office and we certainly thank the Mayors Office and the b. L. A. For the work that they do. Chair fewer thank you very much. And i know that i join my other Committee Members to say thank you very much for keeping our Retirement Fund sound. President yee and i will be drawing from it in the future. So we wanted to say thank you very much for those successes. And i see general agreement with my colleagues. So, mr. Controller, can you please take note of the committees intention to accept the b. L. A. Recommendation from this department. Thank you very much. Thank you for your work and thank you for joining us today. The next department that we have is technology. Hi, good morning, chair fewer. Chair fewer hi. Hi. I am the c. F. O. Of the department of technology. We are in full agreement with the b. L. A. Budget report this morning and ill be happy to answer any additional questions that you may have. Chair fewer thank you very much. I see no question question or cs from my colleagues. This is the department of technology. I think that general agreement with my colleagues to accept these recommendations. So, please, mr. Controller, please take note of this committees intention to accept the b. L. A. Recommendations for this department. Thank you very much. President yee, yes . President yee can you sort of highlight the justice portion of your budget a little bit . The recommendations. We are all holding by 1. 25 more f. T. E. S for additional attrition savings as our director durrell mentioned in her presentation last wednesday. Theres currently 41 vacant positions and we are currently holding 23 f. T. E. S vacant to bid on our original attrition target and additional attrition savings target as we identified together with the budget analyst. And then we also identified some savings that, you know, in our justice program. And also security contract and license. We are able to realize Additional Savings as we have some budget Carry Forward to next year. I think that is pretty much what we have identified. And i know, chair fewer, youre very interested in everyones travel budget. I just want to mention that we have already in the first original budget review, we had already reduced our total travel budget by twothirds in the first round of the budget cuts. Chair fewer president yee, any other questions or comments . No. Okay, great. Yes, its too bad about travel. All of us like to travel but it is what it is. Okay, so mr. Controller, can you please take note of this committees recommendations for this department. Thank you very much and thank you for joining us today. Next we have public works. Good morning, chair fewer. Chair fewer hi. And to the members of the board. Im the acting director of public works. Public works is in agreement with the recommendations from the b. L. A. Chair fewer thank you very much. Any comments or questions from my colleagues . I think that we are in general agreement. Mr. Controller, can you please take note of the committees intention to accept the b. L. A. Recommendations for this department. Thank you very much. Thank you. Chair fewer lets go on to general city responsibility. Good morning, supervisors. The Controllers Office. Chair fewer hi. Many thanks to the budget analysts for this work and we are in agreement with the recommendations. Chair fewer thank you very much. I have a question. Is that with were looking at you have quite a bit of reserves here. But i see that one of your reserves is 5 million for the Housing Authority when we dont have really the Housing Authority anymore. Can you explain why that is still we still have a reserve of 5 million for the Housing Authority . Supervisors, that was a contingency reserve that the board approved in last years budget and in the budget that is proposed before you, that is one of the contingency reserves that has been consolidated into a Covid Response and fiscal effect reserve. Chair fewer so this is has already been included as part of the 500 million reserve . Thats correct. Chair fewer and looking at your other reserves for example, you have a reserve for the Affordable Care act reserve. And you have a reserve from also state and federal revenue risk. And this is im reading from the b. L. A. Report. And that so actually, i am proposing that maybe we skim off a little bit from each of the reserves as is the b. L. A. Says this is considered a policy matter for the board of supervisors. And so i am wondering, i am going to propose that we actually take half a Million Dollars from each of the reserves. If we took half a Million Dollars, it would leave the Affordable Care act reserve fairly intact with 99 of the revenue for this purpose. And 500,000 from the federal reserve, it would still be over a 39 million which leaves it 98. 75 reserve intact for this purpose. Would you like to explain further . Sure. Chair fewer, as you stated, these reserves are unallocated and unappropriated reserves that are set aside. Again, the Housing Authority reserve, which i guess that has been consolidated with the Covid Response has 5 million. The Affordable Care act reserve with 50 million. And the federal and state revenue risk reserve has 40 million. We wrote in our reports on page 14 that this action would be considered to be a policy matter for the board of supervisors as it consists of unappropriated reserves which would require agreement with the mayor to increase the fiscal year 20202021 budget by an equivalent amount. Further, we added the use of these reserves would reduce the amount available to address the risk in the proposed twoyear budget with 270 million depend end on the renegotiation of the labor contracts, 300 million dependent on the voters approving a ballot measure in november. And federal and state reimbursement of covid19 expenditures and continuing revenue impacts of the covid19 emergency. As you did state, our recommendation is for very small portions of each of these reserves, 500,000 of the Affordable Care act reserve would still leave 99 of the reserve intact. And 500,000 from the state and federal reserve, leaving 98. 75 in that reserve intact. Chair fewer any comments or questions from my colleagues . Any response from the general city Responsibility Department . No, just only to echo what was said that it does require agreement from the Mayors Office to decrease the size of the budget if you wish to do so. Chair fewer any comments or questions for us . I would just want to comment that, you know, at this time, you know, given the risk that weve been talking about and the need to hedge for reserves, you know, i cant agree at this time to grow the budget by using additional reserves. But im happy to have the conversation over the coming week with the mayor and you, chair fewer. Chair fewer okay, thats great. So why dont we first just accept the committee i mean, accept the b. L. A. Recommendation for this department and then next week lets talk in the meantime well talk with the budget director about skimming off a little bit of money, not a lot, so leaving it pretty much intact. Its a Million Dollars but a Million Dollars can go a long way in our budget. So we will table call this department back next week when we have deliberations. And i just wanted to put it out that we are looking at this money. Controllers office, accept the recommendations for this department. Thank you very much for joining us today. Next we have human resources. Good morning, chair fewer, and Committee Members. Happy chair fewer hi. How are you . Yes, thank you. So Mickey Callahan here, resources director. I wanted to thank you, chair fewer, for your kind words about the City Employees at the beginning of the hearing. Many of them have worked very hard to deploy the disaster workers and to provide Invaluable Services to the city right now. And i want to thank severn campbell and our budget analyst cody, and we are in agreement with the budget Analyst Recommendations. We have made reductions to the travel budget in line with your comments at the first meeting. And we have added attrition savings for delayed hiring and our Employment Services in our divisions. Chair fewer thank you very much. Any comments or questions . General agreement with this . So mr. Controller, please take note of the committees intention to accept the recommendations for this department. Thank you, miss callahan, for joining us. Thank you. Chair fewer and next mr. Librarian, how are you . Im wonderful, thank you, madam chair. Chair fewer yes. Good morning, supervisors. I want to begin by thanking sev severn campbell and the board analyst, mary, for working with us. The library is in full agreement with the board Analysts Recommendations. Thank you for all of your support and im more than happy to answer any questions that you may have. Chair fewer thank you very much, mr. Librarian, and thank you for your service. Chair fewer, if i may make a couple comments on the Public Library fund report. You all should have received an updated report a few minutes ago. There are no changes that the department is not aware of. We just theres one recommendation that missed the cutoff, so that is included in the updated report that was sent out. And theres only one i just want to highlight that recommendation that was not included in the original report but was intended to and its included in the updated is a policy recommendation. And its recommendation number 10 in the Public Library. And its a policy recommendation, its to reduce the work order with the Police Departments, between the library and the Police Department, by 75 in fiscal year 20202021. Due to the Public Librarys reduced need for security. The Public Library has a separate work order with the Sheriffs Office and the Library Staff noted that it meets the needs of the department. And since the budget year has begun, this would allow for the continued overtime billing until the interim budget expires. And we consider a policy matter for the board of supervisors, as it would result in savings to the library fund at the expense of the discretionary money from the general fund. This work order is prohibited as an overtime line item in this budget and a discretionary afford cost with the library baseline. And its for general fund if the board of supervisors accepts the recommendation number 4, in our Police Department report, which was issued last night. And its included as a policy recommendation in our report with the Police Department. And so that is a policy matter for a total savings indiscernible for that recommendation would be 196,850. Chair fewer okay. Colleagues, any comments or questions for mr. Librarian at all about this . So, yes, supervisor ronen . Supervisor ronen i noticed supervisor mandelmans name. Do you have questions . Chair fewer supervisor mandelman, there you are. Apologies. Superviso supervisor manded them addressed prior. Supervisor ronen so can you explain to us what the police do at the library and how many there are and where they are . And if you believe that theyre needed . And the same with sheriffs. Thank you for the question supervisor ronen. The work order with the San Francisco Police Department has evolved over time. Previously we relied on the San Francisco Police Department to supply a sergeant to oversee our salary benefitted civil servants, our buildings and ground patrol officers. We have moved away from that model. And we have our own safety and security manager position now that is part of the librarys management team. And it provides a more expansive role for Emergency Preparedness and all aspects of health and safety considerations for library operations. And then the remaining sfpd work order has allowed the 10b shifts, the overtime shifts, for sfpd officers to earn extra money and patrol the perimeter of the main library tha. There was also some enhanced security for the Eureka Branch valley library. We feel that we no longer need those services moving forward. Our buildings and grounds patrol officers are providing security for the main library and the branches. The Sheriffs Department work order is a Different Service for the library. We do feel that we need this continued partnership with the Sheriffs Department. As you know, the Sheriffs Department provides security for the entrances of all municipal buildings and the civil center, and we do have a work order agreement with the Sheriffs Department to provide that service in the atrium, the first floor of the main library. In addition, having the Sheriffs Department here on site at the main library, they help us with emergency response. And they are also an added security measure. The main library has the largest concentration of employees at any given time. And also, you know, precovid, 4,000, 5,000 visitors per day. So having the Sheriffs Department on site will provide us with support in the event of a catastrophe, like an active shooter event. So we do see a delineation between the sfpd work order and the sheriffs work order. And we we need that partnership with the Sheriffs Department to continue. Supervisor ronen okay. And then to dan, the additional recommendation im sorry, i didnt have a chance to look at the updated one so youre suggesting eliminating the entire work order for sfpd . Yes, so were eliminating the entire work order for the second budget year, the year 20212022. Supervisor ronen what is the first . And the first is because were already into the first year. So we our recommendation is for 75 to allow for the phase out of that work order. The board, you know, i dont know if the library has the current billings, there might be a delay, i dont know if they would have the updated numbers already. But we wanted to give a cushion for billings that might have already occurred in the current fiscal. Supervisor ronen can you speak to that, are we able to eliminate any additional anything that is left of that work order . I think that for all practical purposes that we are going to do exactly that anyway, because were not really having those funds for the coming weeks until the First Quarter is ending. Were not scheduling 10bs for the main library. And i dont know, our chief operating officer is here and she can also speak to this. Good morning, Committee Members. I am maureen single ton witton e library. We have not received the billing from the Police Department and we imagine that the costs would be minimal at this point, given the activities for the current year. But i would be hesitant to eliminate the work order completely without having that billing information. So, chair fewer, is this a department to call back to see if we can eliminate the entire work order in the first year . Chair fewer sure. So i think that, mr. Librarian, we can have you come back next week after we have a discussion and also to give us a bit of time, but the rest of the recommendations, i think that we just received this one recommendation today. I think that it will give us some time to read it. But in the meantime i think that you are in agreement with all of the other cuts. So can the Controllers Office take note of the committees intention to accept the recommendations for this department and have you come back next week. Thank you very much. Chair fewer thank you for your service. And now we have the department of billin building inspections. Good morning, supervisors, taurice madison. And thank you to the board of supervisors. And we accept the budget Analyst Recommendations. Chair fewer thank you very much. Any comments or questions from my colleagues . So, mr. Controller, please take note of the committees intention to accept the recommendations for this department. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. Chair fewer thank you. Rec and park is next. Good afternoon, supervisors. Or good morning, i think. Chair fewer hello general manager. How are you . Chair fewer im good. What do you got to say . We are prepared to accept the budget Analyst Recommendations and i appreciate working with the budget analyst and the controller and the mayors Budget Office and certainly all of you. Chair fewer thank you very much. President yee there must be something wrong with the b. L. A. Report with this indiscernible . Chair fewer what did we miss . [talking over each other] so we understand from the controller that these moneys can be used to shift the general Fund Expenditures at rec and park up to the baseline funding level. And so it shows that the estimated fund balance would be 17 million, i think. And yet when we heard back from your department it says that how much is predicted funding for the space next year, theres no open budget estimates for next year. And it is likely that the fund balance is comprised of, one, underspending and the open space fund during the year, and given the pressing needs with the tight budget. And number two, anything above the controllers estimate that is not likely to occur, given the economy. So were hearing from you that there is no predicted funding for this next year and no balance and the controller is saying that its 17. 4 million. That is not correct. I think that is a mistake in the processing, and communicating the information to you. We do have a fund balance and it constitutes approximately 10 of our overall budget which is well within sort of our recommended, you know, its what were supposed to be doing. But the challenge that we face this year, supervisors, and we did use some of our fund balance in balancing. When we submitted our budget to you in into the mayor in june it was based on the best available information that we had regarding covid. And almost a third of our budget is earned revenue. And, you know, we predicted a pretty substantial cut in revenues from 53 million a year to approximately 38 million. Were lucky if were going to make 20 million or 21 million and well use all of that fund balance to just continue to provide the essential services that were providing, theres no question about it. A lot of the programs and the activities that we thought that we would begin to do starting late spring, early summer, we may not get to do until next you know, late winter and next year at all. And, chair fewer, as you know as well as anyone, a lot of our revenue comes in during the summer and fall season, such as outside lands. And Tourist Spending is down over twothirds city wide and we havent had a visit to the tower and we havent any marathons or races. And, unfortunately, the duration of this is going to be much longer than we expected. We have some profound concerns because our budget is really premised on so much on earned revenue. So we anticipate using every penny of that to continue to provide emergency child care and our programs and to have our park rangers and custodians continuing to do the work, you know, as we all know and discussed last week, we have been taking on additional responsibilities that we otherwise wouldnt be doing to support the citys public response. Chair fewer so youre using the open space fund to balance your budget for the next two fiscal years and you wont have any balance left . Well, it is very hard to predict with 100 certainty where the revenues will come in. But right now we are projecting an additional 17 million or 18 million reduction in our revenue just this fiscal year and thats our fund balance in a nutshell right there. You know, look, you know, i wish i had a crystal ball. Wed love nothing more than to run adult programs and for concerts to start and races to start. Our parking garages are only a third to a half full, wed love to see more activity in our garages. Wed love to see our restaurants open, none of that has happened. And all of our numbers were premised on and the budget was submitted as you recall around the time that we were starting this cycle of reopening, and we expected to benefit a little bit from some Economic Activity late summer, early fall. Well not get any of it and we doubt to get anything throughout the fiscal year. As i stand here right now today, i actually have some pretty serious concerns. No one knows when well be up and running full speed again but its a lot slower than we anticipated. Presiden chair fewer pres, do you have any questions . I thought that your hand was up. You have 35 people that youre adding to your staff . No, we are not adding 35 people to our staff. President koppel thats what c. F. O. Said last week. No, i dont think president koppel chair 5 people in the process now . Were not adding people to our staff. Were in a pretty profound hiring freeze. We have dramatically reduced our temp salary line, which is a big part of our work. We have upped our attrition savings. In fact, we updated more after our discussions with the boards budget analyst. We do have some positions that are in a constant cycle and such as our apprentic apprenticeships that we have a workforce employment cycle. So these are active vacancies, but we have actually significant reduced or increased the number of vacancies that well carry throughout the year, supervisors. So what i think that we said last week is that we have of the 175 position positions thate currently vacant, i dont have the numbers chair fewer i have it from last week. So what you said is that you have 130 vacancies and that yo you you have 175 vacancies and holding 140 vacancies and that youre hiring 35 people. We have 35 people 35 positions that are in an active spot. Some are commission critical, minimum staffing positions. But our department and this is how we balance you know, i have over 2,000 people that work for us between temporary and fulltime Public Service employees. We are essentially in a very strict hiring freeze. Some of the ones that we are filling are either absolutely critical and essential positions, or theyre already weve already made offers and theyre far enough long in the hiring process. But thats a small percentage of the overall number of openings that we are carrying. And so the net of that, between that and the reduction to our temp salary line, there are fewer hours of work for the rec and Park Department this year, no question about it. Chair fewer supervisor ronen . Supervisor ronen i am wondering if im correct on this number, theres 150 spaces for the children of essential workers in your program, is that correct . Its actually going to be a little higher. Its good news, supervisor ronen. I thank well now, remember that were running eight of our sites to be Community Learning hub sites. And then another site, including one for children with special needs, will be emergency child and youth care sites. Because Health Guidance has allowed us to increase the size of the pods of kids that we can serve in a single space. We think that were going to be closer to 200 children in our ecey sites. Supervisor ronen those are going to be run by rec and park staff . Yes. And so too will the eight Community Learning hubs, eight of the 40 or it might be higher we might be up to 60 or 70. But any of the sites will be rec and park run as well. Supervisor ronen i see. I didnt know about that. Okay, that was my question. Thats fine. Chair fewer theyre staffed by nonprofits, right . Some are staffed by nonprofits but the eight Community Hub sites that we operate are staffed by our own team. Chair fewer and is that normally the rec and park site . Yeah. Chair fewer okay. Except we sometimes have in normal times we partner with nonprofits, and like the boys and girls club and the y, to operate some of our smaller single room clubhouses but we have over 85 buildings throughout our system. 27 plus rec centers which are staffed extraordinarily well by our represented team. Chair fewer okay. Any comments or questions for general manager ginsburg. Supervisor ronen just one more quick question. The vacancies that chair fewer was talking about, what are you hiring those vacancies for . A lot of them are apprentice clauses, we have Workforce Development programs with local 261, to, you know, our parks are fixed assets and we need a bare minimum of people to kind of manage them. As people retire, and for other reasons they leave, we do occasionally have vacancies and its an excellent Workforce Development model, were in our 11th or 12th year with local 261 where we bring in new apprentices. As they complete training they fill gardener spots. So of those 35, there are about permanent civil spots and apprentice spots. Supervisor ronen im sorry, i lost you for a minute. Its okay. So you are saying the gardeners supervisor ronen the positions that youre currently hiring for are apprentice programs . I would need to see a list from derek, i dont have them all. I think we might have a couple cucustodial vaccut oldvacancies. And apprenticeship gardeners. All people who are providing essential services and were not filling vacancies of anybody not providing a Frontline Service to our organization. People who do our tree Maintenance Programs chair fewer everything is essential. Im hearing from so many departments that every position is sort of essential. Not in our organization, though many, many, many are, and i think that as you know, supervisor fewer, its because our parks have been open during this pandemic. Without our staff and rec staff running our emergency child care or the park rangers or the park facilities could not be open for the purposes which they serve. And, you know, only 5 of our staff is administrative. Most of our staff are actually frontline workers. Chair fewer any comments or questions for the general manager . I see general agreement. So the Controllers Office take note for the committee to accept the recommendations from this department. Thank you, general manager, ginsburg. Thank you. Is the director here hi, good morning, supervisors. Thank you so much for having me. I want to just say thank you to the Mayors Office as well as the Controllers Office and the budget legislative analyst office. We accept the b. L. A. s recommendation. Chair fewer thank you very much. Any comments or questions from my colleagues. President yee, did you have a question . President yee just one. I think we asked this question last week whether or not it was a reduction or a cut of the of the cut of contracts to nonprofits . And i think that you said that they werent . Thats correct, president yee. We have we are not making cuts to our nonprofit agencies. We are grateful for the redirecting and reallocation of funds, but th juvenile departmet has allocated to our department. And as a result we were able to use those dollars to make sure that all of our c. B. O. S were kept whole. President yee i was just i was notified by one it was the parents of Public Schools recently oversight. I would love to have a conversation with you because that particular grant, we do not hold that grant. That is not a c. B. O. That we fund. But i can have a conversation with you separately because thats a joint funded contract. President yee joint funded by who . It is a grant that the School District holds with parents for Public Schools. And so in previous years, what we have done is allocated funds to the School District to provide a grant to parents for Public Schools. And for the last two years theres been no draw down on that contract. And as a result, there was a joint agreement that we should not continue that grant with parents for Public Schools and, instead, to get those dollars to support other needs in our system. President yee thats kind of odd. Yeah, maybe its very odd. President yee kind of odd. We have worked very closely with our School District. Back then it was under chief i dont remember the chief of student families and support services, kevin truett, and has consistently asked him to talk to the parents of Public Schools to ensure funding and build out and the draw down of that particular grant. And for whatever reason that has not been the case. So we have secured those dollars for the past two years and to send over to the School District to provide funding for that grant. Chair fewer i think that i recall during the budget cycle president yee might remember this that there was a new practice of really looking at Racial Equity in their funding cycles. And it was during that subject year, and i believe that supervisor sheehee was there joining us also because he asked questions about it. But i remember this was the transition year, because they are now using a different metric and measure in which to fund and primarily targeting a population of students. And so parents of Public Schools was not funded in that cycle, the firs cycle that we had on te budget with cohen as the chair. I recall that conversation that it was during the time that bcif decided to actually use a different measure and metric to serve the most immediate students . President yee yeah, but that explains it doesnt explain the numbers. The School District indiscernible . Its a joint decision. please stand by we have not talked specifically about the cost for testing. We have started the conversation, which is how do all family and staff in the learning hubs have access to testing before they start and then figure out a mechanic mitchell f mechanism for us to figure out how thats going to be a part of the learning hub. Supervisor ronen but thats a little bit different. Not that theres a path to testing, but that theres proactive, weekly testing to make sure whether or not theres an outbreak in any of those hubs and that we can keep the safety of children and adults in these hubs a priority. Is it not moving in that direction . I can have a conversation with you. D. P. H. Set up a team to address this. They hear your concerns loud and clear, supervisor, so we can follow up with you to share the plan and how we are proposing to move forward. Supervisor ronen okay. Because chair fewer had asked us to give her our citywide priority list. This is among my top two priorities, and we need to figure out if this is a need, and then, if it is a need, what that amount is very quickly, so if we could work with my half to figure out how to do that, that would be great. Chair fewer president yee . President yee director, last week, i talked to you about Early Childhood education and do you have those numbers . I do. It took us a little bit longer than expected to run the numbers, and i can share that with you. Actually, im having problems with my screen, but i can reach out to you. Unfortunately, moving into the next two years, which is fiscal year 2021 and 2122, we had [inaudible] but over the previous years, we have made increases in funding from the Childrens Fund to the zero to five providers. President yee probably everything got increased, but proportionately, did the increase match up with the other age brackets . We did not do a comparison by age brackets. We just did a comparison of funds in the zero to five system. I can follow up with a comparison by age in terms of comparison of funding by age and the comparison of that allegation. President yee yeah, im not saying that those are the numbers, but [inaudible]. Yes, but in general, there has been significant increases from our department to the zero to five system, but i can definitely share with you and your office, president yee, a more detailed breakdown of what that increase looks like. President yee thank you. Chair fewer thank you. Supervisor haney . Supervisor haney sorry. Thank you, chair fewer, and thank you, Budget Committee, for allowing me to ask a question. So i know we had a very long conversation at the joint committee about the Community Learning hub so i wont go into the model there, but i want to have a little more understanding of the cost. How many how many students are we planning to serve currently . So the goal is for us to eventually get up to 6,000 students or children for the learning hub. We are planning on doing a phasedin approach to allow families time to decide and to enroll, so our first opportunity for registration will happen next monday, and for next monday, i think we are planning on standing up 60 to 70 sites around the country so serve upwards of 2,000 children. Supervisor haney immediately . Immediately. And then have continued enrollment for more families to join after that. Supervisor haney sorry. And then there was information about the cost per child. And whats going to happen is im sure theres going to be family more families that many more families that want services than what were able to provide for. Im already contacted by workers, like workers at homeless shelters who dont have a lot of money to spend on their own child care in a lot of cases and sort of fall in the middle. This is something that supervisor yee has been leading on addressing during normal times. How are we going to deal with all of that . What are we doing about that . Thats a good question. In terms of expansion, we would love to expand if we had the resources. We unfortunately dont have the resources, and actually, chair fewer referenced that d. C. F. Has a program that is prioritizing our latinos, blacks, Pacific Islanders and lowincome families, and were going to make sure that our most disconnected families have services first. As we are starting to see the demand for these services growing in the city, we are actually being constricted in facilities for that. My staff has secured 80 facilities throughout the city, and thats a lot of facilities. And the reason why facilities is such an issue is because we want to be sure that were providing services with the highest level of Health Guidance and health safety. Were not going to be putting a whole bunch of kids in a small space. We need to ensure that there is 6 feet of distancing, and because of that, we are limited. I must say that i am so grateful for the generosity of our private sector folks right now, who are calling me, saying, ive got a conference room. Do you want that . We have churches who are calling, saying i have a church facility. Do you want to use it . Weve secured several provide spaces right now that will be available for our students. President yee and the School District has over 100 spaces. Supervisor haney yeah, there are some facilities that are empty. So just on this point, i mean, should we all be putting out, like, a broader, bigger call to the private sector to offer their space if they have it . Just to be clear, focusing on our most high need students, our homeless students, public housing, yes, we should focus on them first before one, im worried were not going to have enough space and room even for them. And then, youre going to have a lot of other students who are high need and families that are high need right now, we are leveraging, and im so privileged to work with our c. B. O. S to go into these spaces to operate the learning hubs, and that has been really amazing, but at some point, were going to max out their capacity, so were going to need Additional Resources if we want to open up more learning hubs. Supervisor haney all right. Okay. Im going to get out of the way. Thank you for allowing me to ask questions, chair fewer. Chair fewer i think it speaks to the volume of sfpd open spaces because they all have parks, auditoriums, and theyre fairly large. Why arent we using those . Right now, i am having conversations with dr. Matthews and School Leadership to try to figure those pieces out . Chair fewer okay. When you talk about large facilities, thats right. President yee said theres over 100 of them, and we know that almost all of them have outdoor space, they have outdoor gardens. They have huge auditoriums and assembly rooms, and it doesnt quite make sense, quite frankly. Supervisor ronen, last question . Supervisor ronen yeah, last question, so youre changing the date when youre starting. Youre not starting september 14, you are starting immediately . Yeah. So september 14, we are starting, with 2,000 immediately. Supervisor ronen so monday, youre starting with 2,000 . No, registration is starting monday. Supervisor ronen okay. So you keep saying immediately, but what you mean by immediately is september 14 . Yes. Im sorry. Supervisor ronen im, like, did we roll out the date . Thats magic. President yee can i suggestion. You will run out of people thats going to be fingerprinted. Its like we can just bring a bunch of volunteers in, and as you know, any time you work with children, we need to be careful, so can we be proactive maybe and go into city college and San Francisco state and have to wait until everything gets processed . And then, secondarily, can we ask San Francisco city college whether we can use their space . Thank you, president yee. We are working with city college, whos been a really great partner with us on a number of things, but in particular for this year, were having some really positive conversations with them. And then, in terms of your you know, its you can tell that president yee used to run a program because he knows about the fingerprinting issues, so youre right. You cant just put anybody into a space to serve children. The reason why it makes sense to use nonprofit agencies is because its all fingerprinted. They know mandated reporting, and yes. We are in conversation with San Francisco state who has said this is a great opportunity for our professionals. Theres been a lot of feedback around this program and about people wanting to come in and support this effort. San francisco is, once again, leading the way in caring for our highestneed children throughout the city. Chair fewer i just have one question for you, and that is i know our c. B. O. S are going to be operating these hubs. Im just wondering, is there any extra compensation for them at all . So were going to be partnering two after School Providers together to make a fullday program. Unless the c. B. O. Has already full day programming like our beacon centers, then, they will go in and operate the program full day. Chair fewer got it. Supervisor ronen . Ill talk to you offline, director chu, but i do know its the priority of this board to increase the capacity of these hubs. As were making these addback decisions, i know theres a lot of interest in this decision to make this a citywide priority. So if you could start thinking through for me, the testing is really important because families are very, very nervous about the safety. Protocols are first in line, but the expansion is also first in line, so if you could layout different options and scenarios for this board as were considering how to allocate addback money, that would be wonderful. Chair fewer madam clerk . Clerk just wanted you to know that supervisor haney was noted as present at 1127, convening us as a special meeting of the board of supervisors. Chair fewer yeah. Considering we dont know the upcoming cost, how long this will last, and the addition of cost it would take. Supervisor yee . President yee can we have [inaudible] he calls me every four years. Chair fewer all right. Thank you for that. Having said that, thank you, director chu, for answering all of our questions. It is the recommendation of this board to accept the b. L. A. Recommendations of the department. And we have assessor chu present. Assessor chu . Thank you, chair fewer, for your tough decisions ahead. I wanted to let you know that we are accepting those budget and analyst cuts and also some reductions in travel and some cuts in restrictions, as well. In response to supervisor mandelmans question last question, i think supervisor mandelman had recognized and i think the board recognizes the important work of our team, we would ask that you reconsider the attrition level of our department. In some of those positions, we are already in process of interviewing and potentially extending hires before the hiring freeze began. On top of that, we would love to be able to make sure we had the capacity to hire appraisers if we need to to defend commercial appraisals that will be coming up. We accept a ton of appraisals from our commercial properties, so we want to be able to defend the values that we think the city is going to be assessing. Allowing us to be able to do the work would be a service thats beneficial and worthwhile. Chair fewer thank you, director chu. The request has been heard and recognized by all of us, and thank you for taking these cuts to the department. So i think we have recommendations that the assessor accepts these cuts. Thank you, assessor chu. Now, we have the Mayors Office. Are you presenting today . Yes, i am. Ashley rothenberger. Thank you to you all for these recommendations. We are in agreement with the office of the budget and legislative analyst, and im happy to answer any questions if you have any. Chair fewer any questions from my colleagues . Seeing none, mr. Controller, please make sure to note the recommendations for this department. Thank you. Next, we have city attorney. Mr. City attorney . Chair fewer, this is ron flynn. Again, i was here last week. Deputy city attorney. We have reached agreement for further reduction further attrition and reduction in travel, and we are in agreement with the budget analyst. Chair fewer thank you. Any comments or questions for the city attorneys department. Seeing none, mr. Controller, can you please take note of the city attorneys intentions to take note of the cuts to the department . Thank you. Now, we have the department of elections. Hello, department of elections . President yee i think they want to double the cuts. Chair fewer yeah, department of elections. I think you have about, what, five Staff Members positions that we can actually okay. I see i dont know where mr. Arthur is. Perhaps, madam clerk, would you mind to see whether or not mr. Arthurs on his way, and with that, lets do the board of supervisors. Who do we got representing us . Hello, madam chair, members of the committee, its angela calvillo. I wanted to just say, we are ready to go now. We are in agreement with the budget and legislative analysts office. We appreciate your hard work and everyone working on this year budget and next years budget, and we are here if you need anything additional from the department. Chair fewer any questions or comments for miss calvillo . If not, mr. Budget mr. Controller, can you please make note of the departments agreement to the cuts of the budget and legislative analyst. Im here. Chair fewer oh, good. What say you about the recommendations . The department accepts the budget and legislative Analysts Recommendations for the department. Chair fewer thank you. Any comments or questions for mr. Arendt . Supervisor yee . President yee yes. I see theres a line item for vehicles. Correct. President yee are you needing that many vehicles with this election coming up because were not having that many places where people will be voting at . Yes. We read we lease around 300 vehicles per election, and we will again for this election. The number of polling locations has not changed for november, so well still need fuel support personnel in the field, provide assistance to the workers in the field. We saw the article in the examiner this morning. We have not seen the report from the budget and legislative analysts office. We did do a quick review of our receipts from 2018 because thats the time we would have been leasing vehicles that the report covered, the time frame, and we didnt see any luxury vehicles in our invoices. What happens a lot is since we do request a large number of vehicles for a very short time frame around election day, the vendors cant always give us the intermediate class vehicle, so sometimes, well get well get a not an update, but a higher level class vehicle, but were not charged a luxury cost. But we do use around 200 vans, and sometimes if they dont have enough vans, the vendor provides s. U. V. S. So potentially, the b. L. A. S office saw the s. U. V. S and considered that to be our leasing luxury vehicles, but thats not the case. Weve contacted the b. L. A. S office requesting reports, so we can see which vehicles are noted in the report so we can compare those to our records. So i cant comment, but yeah, we will have the same number of vehicles in this election that we did in march. President yee so is it budgeted for the number of vehicles that you did for march . Is it budgeted for your typical november elections . Its mostly budgeted for march, with a few more potentially in november, for the election cycle. All the leasing is done with the vendor. Were not going independently and leasing vehicles besides what the city has under its blanket contract with the vendor. President yee and this may not specifically be a question for your department, but there are a lot of vehicles for its not used every day, and i wonder if theres a way for you to contact departments and say, can we borrow these vehicles . Some vehicles just sit there all week long, so again, it can save us some money. Yeah, and i think its under the Mayors Office that the city can obtain a vehicle and use it for shortterm use. President yee can you make more of a concerted effort to work with the other departments that might have these vehicles available . Certainly. President yee yeah, i think it would be helpful. Thank you. Chair fewer do we have any further questions . If not, well make a recommendation of the department to accept the recommendations of the department. Its 12 05. Madam clerk, do we have any other departments before us today . President yee no, this is too short. Chair fewer i actually think we should have a discussion on something fairly deep while were still together. President yee chair fewer, thank you. Chair fewer so id like to make a motion to recess this meeting until 10 00 a. M. Tomorrow. President yee thank you. Chair fewer bless you, president yee. Can i have a roll call on that, please. Clerk yes. On the motion to recess the meeting until 10 00 tomorrow [roll call] clerk there are five ayes. Chair fewer thank you very much. Colleagues, id just like to say, get a good nights sleep tonight because tomorrow will not be so easy. I think we saw departments very compliant, and tomorrow, they will not be. Supervisor ronen im so excited. I have time to actually study. Chair fewer so everyone got the b. L. A. S report. Look at that, and say these are the recommendations, and if you can think of other things, great. This is where we start, and so we are growing that pot. Congratulations to all of you for growing that pot for the add back, and for the communities. Okay. Thank you very much. Seeing nothing further, this committee is recessed, and thank you, madam clerk. Clerk of course. Roughly five years, i was working as a high school teacher, and i decided to take my students on a surfing field trip. The light bulb went off in my head, and i realized i could do much more for my students taking them surfing than i could as their classroom teacher, and that is when the idea for the city surf project was born. Working with kids in the ocean that arent familiar with this space is really special because youre dealing with a lot of fear and apprehension but at the same time, a lot of excitement. When i first did it, i was, like, really scared, but then, i did it again, and i liked it. Well get a group of kids who have just never been to the beach, are terrified of the idea, who dont like the beach. Its too cold out, and its those kid that are impossible to get back out of the water at the end of the day. Over the last few years, i think weve had at least 40 of our students participate in the city surf project. Surfing helped me with, like, how to swim. Weve start off with about two to four sessions in the pool before actually going out and surfing. Swimming at the pool just helps us with, like, being, like, comfortable in the water and being calm and not being all not being anxious. So when we started the city surf project, one of the things we did was to say hey, this is the way to earn your p. E. Credits. Just getting kids to go try it was one of our initial challenges for the first year or two. But now that weve been doing it three or four years, we have a group of kids thats consistent, and the word has spread, that its super fun, that you learn about the ocean. Starting in the morning, you know, i get the vehicles ready, and then, i get all the gear together, and then, i drive and go get the kids, and we take them to a local beach. We usually go to linda mar, and then occasionally ocean beach. We once did a special trip. We were in capitola last year, and it was really fun. We get in a circle and group stretch, and we talk about specific safety for the day, and then, we go down to the water. Once we go to the beach, i dont want to go home. I cant change my circumstances at home, but i can change the way i approach them. Our program has definitely been a way for our students to find community and build friends. I dont really talk to friends, so i guess when i started doing city surf, i started to, like, get to know people more than i did before, and people that i didnt think id like, like, ended up being my best friends. Its a group sport the way we do it, and with, like, close camaraderie, but everybodys doing it for themselves. Its great, surfing around, finding new people and making new friendships with people throughout surfing. It can be highly developmental for students to have this time where they can learn a lot about themselves while negotiating the waves. I feel significantly, like, calmer. It definitely helps if im, like, feeling really stressed or, like, feeling really anxious about surfing, and i go surfing, and then, i just feel, like, im going to be okay. It gives them resiliency skills and helps them build selfconfidence. And with that, they can use that in other parts of their lives. I went to bring amy family o the beach and tell them what i did. I saw kids open up in the ocean, and i got to see them connect with other students, and i got to see them fail, you know, and get up and get back on the board and experience success, and really enjoy themselves and make a connection to nature at the same time. For some kids that are, like, resistant to, like, being in a Mentorship Program like this, its they want to surf, and then later, theyll find out that theyve, like, made this community connection. I think they provided level playing fields for kids to be themselves in an open environment. For kids to feel like i can go for it and take a chance that i might not have been willing to do on my own is really special. We go on 150 surf outings a year. Thats yearround programming. Weve seen a tremendous amount of youth face their fears through surfing, and that has translated to growth in other facets of their lives. I just think the biggest thing is, like, that they feel like that they have something that is really cool, that theyre engaged in, and that we, like, care about them and how theyre doing, like, in general. What i like best is they really care about me, like, im not alone, and i have a group of people that i can go to, and, also, surfing is fun. Were creating surfers, and were changing the face of surfing. The feeling is definitely akin to being on a roller coaster. Its definitely faster than i think you expect it to be, but its definitely fun. It leaves you feeling really, really positive about what that kids going to go out and do. I think its really magical almost. At least it was for me. It was really exciting when i caught my first wave. I felt like i was, like it was, like, magical, really. When they catch that first wave, and their first lights up, you know their face lights up, you know you have them hooked. I was on top of the world. Its amazing. I felt like i was on top of the world even though i was probably going two miles an hour. It was, like, the scariest thing id ever done, and i think it was when i got hooked on surfing after we broke ground in december of last year. We broke ground the day after sandy hook connecticut and had a moment of silence here. Its really great to see the silence that we experienced then and weve experienced over the years in this playground is now filled with these voices. 321, okay. [ applause ] the park was kind of bleak. It was scary and over grown. We started to help maclaren park when we found there wasnt any money in the bond for this park maclaren. We spent time for funding. It was expensive to raise money for this and there were a lot of delays. A lot of it was just the mural, the sprinklers and we didnt have any grass. It was that bad. We worked on sprinkler heads and grass and we fixed everything. We worked hard collecting everything. We had about 400 group members. Every a little bit helped and now the park is busy all week. There is people with kids using the park and using strollers and now its safer by utilizing it. Maclaren park being the largest second park one of the best kept secrets. Whats exciting about this activation in particular is that its the first of many. Its also representation of our city coming together but not only on the bureaucratic side of things. But also our neighbors, neighbors helped this happen. We are thrilled that today we are seeing the fruition of all that work in this citys open space. When we got involved with this park there was a broken swing set and half of for me, one thing i really like to point out to other groups is that when you are competing for funding in a hole on the ground, you need to articulate what you need for your park. I always point as this sight as a model for other communities. I hope we continue to work on the other empty pits that are here. There are still a lot of areas that need help at maclaren park. We hope grants and money will be available to continue to improve this park to make it shine. Its a really hidden jewel. A lot of people dont know its here. As a society weve basically failed big portion of our population if you think about the basics of food, shelter safety a lot of people dont have any of those im mr. Cookie cant speak for all the things but i know say, i have ideas how we can address the food issue. Open the door and walk through that dont just stand looking out. As they grew up in in a how would that had access to good food and our parent cooked this is how you feed yours this is not happening in our country this is a huge pleasure im david one of the cofounder so about four year ago we worked with the serviced and got to know the kid one of the things we figured out was that they didnt know how to cook. I heard about the Cooking School through the Larkin Academy a. Their noting no way to feed themselves so theyre eating a lot of fast food and i usually eat whatever safeway is near my home a lot of hot food i was excited that i was eating lunch enough instead of what and eat. As i was inviting them over teaching them basic ways to fix good food they were so existed. Particle learning the skills and the food they were really go it it turned into the is Charity Foundation i ran into my friend we were talking about this this do you want to run this Charity Foundations and she said, yes. Im a cofound and executive director for the cooking project our best classes participation for 10 students are monday theyre really fun their chief driven classes we have a different guest around the city theyre our stand alone colas we had a series or series still city of Attorneys Office style of classes our final are night life diners. Santa barbara shall comes in and helps us show us things and this is one the owners they help us to socialize and ive been here about a year. We want to be sure to serve as many as we can. The San Francisco Cooking School is an amazing amazing partner. It is doing that in that space really elevates the space for the kids special for the chief that make it easy for them to come and it really makes the experience pretty special. Im sutro sue set im a chief 2, 3, 4 San Francisco. Thats what those classes afford me the opportunity it breakdown the barriers and is this is not scary this is our choice about you many times this is a feel good what it is that you give them is an opportunity you have to make it seem like its there for them for the taking show them it is their and they can do that. Hi, im antonio the chief in San Francisco. The majority of kids at that age in order to get them into food they need to see something simple and the evidence will show and easy to produce i want to make sure that people can do it with a bowl and spoon and burner and one pan. I like is the receipts that are simple and not feel like its a burden to make foods the cohesives show something eased. I go for vera toilet so someone cant do it or its way out of their range we only use 6 ingredients i can afford 6 ingredient what good is showing you them something they cant use but the sovereignties what are you going to do more me youre not successful. We made a vegetable stirfry indicators hed ginger and onion that is really affordable how to balance it was easy to make the food we present i loved it if i having had access to a kitchen id cook more. Some of us have never had a kitchen not taught how to cookie wasnt taught how to cook. I have a great appreciation for programs that teach kids food and cooking it is one of the healthiest positive things you can communicate to people that are very young. The more programs like the cooking project in general that can have a positive impact how our kids eat is really, really important i believe that everybody should venting to utilize the kitchen and meet other kids their age to identify theyre not alone and their ways in which to pick yours up and move forward that. It is really important to me the opportunity exists and so i do everything in my power to keep it that. Well have our new headquarters in the heart of the tenderloin at taylor and kushlg at the end of this summer 2014 were really excited. A lot of the of the conditions in San Francisco they have in the rest of the country so our goal to 257bd or expand out of the San Francisco in los angeles and then after that who know. Wed never want to tell people want to do or eat only provide the skills and the tools in case thats something people are 2rrd in doing. You cant buy a box of psyche you have to put them in the right vein and direction with the right kids with a right place address time those kids dont have this you have to instill they can do it theyre good enough now to finding out figure out and find the future for welcome to boards commis. On may 29th 2020 the Mayors Office requested to meet remotely. Were using web ex for our remote hearings. I expect a few hiccoughs during these first few hearings. There are broad cast delays on broad cast sfgovtv. We will receive Public Comment for each item on todays agenda. There should be a phone number that is being streamed on sfgovtv comments or opportunity it speak during the Public Comment period are available via phone. When you are connected and would like to submit Public Comment for any agenda items, press star then three to be added to the queue. Each speaker will be allowed up to three minutes. When your allotted time is reached, i will announce your time is up and take the next caller. Best practices are to call from a quiet location. Id like to take roll at this time. roll call . First on your agenda is Public Comment. With respect to agenda items, the opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when the item is reached in the meeting. You may address the commission for up to three minutes. Members of the public this is your opportunity to call into the 415 area code access number. Stress star and three to raise your hand to speak. I do see a number of hands. Ill call on the first caller. You are unmuted caller. You have three minutes. Good afternoon, commissioners. Im am likewise waiting to make comment on item 11. Good afternoon. Just to let you know on channel 78 is the Building Commission on watch its not there. Could you please tell the government channels that we can see this hearing. They have a lettered u alerte Building Commission is running late. This can be viewed on channel 26 or 78. They just put you on 26. Okay. Commissioners seeing no other general Public Comment, we can close general Public Comment and move on to department matters, item one directors announcements. Do we have any director announcements. I dont seedirectorwe will move on commissioners to item two. Past events of the Commission Staff report. Ill only report that the Planning Commission has held about 18 remote hearings and that they are currently on their summer hiatus and will resume next week on august 27th. If there are no questions we can move onto commission matters. Item three president s report and announcements. Thank you. I believe he was intending to be in the hearing today. I know the commissioners have been notified. I was hoping he could speak a little. He will be leaving the planning department, i believe this week is his last week in the office. I just wanted to thank him for his service. He has been with us for eight years. He has done an amazing job. Two of them are Design Elements as well as theguidelines. And residential guidelines. He significantly improved the community out reach and engagement with our design community. It was very much appreciated by the design community. For our commission he has advocated for the city wide survey. That is now moving forward. We very much appreciate that. More importantly, he is really supported us in our Cultural Heritage programs. We thank him for that and wish him all the best. If he does end up showing up, i believe hell have some things to say. He actually just joined us from another meeting. We might give him the opportunity to speak. Apparently his video is not working. Jeff, are you with us . Can you call him in as a panelist from the attendee list, please. Oh, i see. You should have full access now. Thank you. Can you hear me now . Yes. Thank you so much commissioners. I will tea take a minute if thas all right. No need to start a three minute timer. It will just be a mifn. Minute. Im truly grateful for my time here. The opportunity to support San Francisco preservation efforts was the primary reason for relocating here three years ago. The offer was great but it was conversations with some of your predecessorsit consists of six planners and one manager entirely embedded in planning. Their work now is the entirety of the staffing and the department. Expectations for the preservation staff are higher than today. As a result of the commission to form advocacy. The commission has never had more five skilled commissioners. New best practices, elevated preservations, contributions not just here but across the country and beyond. As one example this was never more apparent than when they hosted the National Press conference here. Various members of our preservation here. That focus on cultural and tangible resources largely inspired by our pioneering work here is unprecedented in such times. It meaningfully changed the inclusivity. Im proud to have helped in some small way towards these efforts. I wish you all well. Thank you. Thank you, jeff. It was a pleasure working with you. If theres no further comment from the president , i do see a member of the public requesting to speak. Let me take that caller now. Im going to guess they want to speak to a different item butcaller you have three minutes if you want to speak to the president s report. Im sorry. I dont know when to press to speak for item eleven. You need to wait until i call item eleven. Thats when do you that. Commissioners that will place us on item four. We do need to amend those minutes. We inadvertently left out comments from kate howard on item nine for the standard environmental requirements for support of that continuance. That mat per is now before you and we should take Public Comment for the minutes. Members of the public at this time. Its your opportunity to press star three for comments on the draft minutes. I see no request it speak. Commissioners the matter is now before you. Commissioners, any comments or perhaps a motion . Motion. Second. Adopt the minutes as have been amended. roll call . Ill start out, i have a disclosure ill repeat for item 11 and 12, i believe. I have a tangential relationship with u c sf. Not creating any conflict of interest for either of these two agenda items. I just need to let that be known. Secondly for staff, i wanted to for the record request that we add the Golden Gate Library Landmark Project to our work program. I dont know if staff can speak to it a little bit more in a general sense how it might be pulled into our program and the overall run down. If youre able to give us a brief update. Hi. Can you hear me . We can. Related to the golden gate valley landmark. They have currently indicated that due to operational challenges with covid they need a little more time to get up to speed. The library several years ago, they are fixing the city, six have been landmarked. This one is not after some retro mitting sm the department is absolutely aware of this and also received a copy of a draft prepared by members of the public. This is on our radar. We think in a few months the library will have some basic certification on this. As far as the landmark works program, this is something that in the past has been analyzing and reviewing. Weve had some staff capacity due to some community landmar landmarkif staff had been okay payed with task at hand. Its something were regrouping on just last week. Were needing to come to identify some priorities. Were doing a little bit of back ground research. Taking a look at the lands of racial and social equity work plan. That is something that ill have a better idea of timing next week. Its not at the next space youlli can get an update on that plan when we plan to return. Thank you. Very helpful. Any other comments or disclosures from the commissioners. I dont see any. I guess we can move on. Well place this under consideration for continuance. We should take Public Comment for items proposed for continuance. Enter the access code requesting to speak. P i see no requests to speak. The item is before you. Do we have a second . Second. The motion to continue item six. Commissioner block. Yes. roll call . Thank you commissioners on that motion to approve item seven under consent calendar. roll call . Thank you commissioners. That motion passes unanimously seven to zero. That places us on item 7a through f. 2020006871lbr. For properties at 1663 Mission Street suite 225. These are all legacy business registry. Staff are you prepared to make your presentation . Im going to give a brief statement before katie begins. Is katie with us . Yes. I want to take a brief minute to inform you of Department Staff changes for applications. The primary preservation staffer here. Id like to speak about her work over these years. She will continue as a policy person. She shifted the effort, katie will be presenting the examinations today to examination planner and coordinator for planning in collaboration with me. Additional staff will be engaged. In future hearing, you will likely see katie alongside additional staff sharing these exciting nominations with you. Thank you for your time. Ill let katie take over now. Good afternoon. Presenting six legacy business cases with you today. Ill allow time for the Business Owners to speak on their behalf. Legal assistance to the elderly. A not for profit. The organization was informally established to meet and offer Legal Council in the Jewish Community center in the late 1970s. They relocated seven times but never ceased operations. Laes multi lingual and cultural staff served 1500 most vulnerable populations. Staff is very supportive of the application and recommending the following two intangible features be preserved. Provide compassion neat and Free Legal Services and training and informational programs for Community Groups sm the next legacy business is medicine koorption. Sf natural medicine. Founded by the current owner drd for alternative medicinal practices. Recommends the business safeguard the welcoming environment and education and training offered at the businesses location. The third legacy business is annies hot dogs and snacks. The original and current owner founded her first hot dog stand in the Ferry Building after relocating to San Francisco with her then two year old son. When she opened a coffee cart and hot dog stand the decision was made to rebrand and more accurately represent the company as a local business. Though the business was rebranded and many cart locations across the city, its never ceased operations. Today she has a com come kitche. She has been featured in several publications. Served San Francisco supplying walk up snacks. She is dedicated to maintaining the historical tradition of the business which staff supports. Quick on the gothe original recipe created by catherine and her son david. Next is the house of very quickly took off and it was soon famous for food and fast service. They began serving customers what he thought was best. Reviewing a menu and ordering themselves. It has not slowed down at all during their operations. To accommodate demand they add logos its iconic red white and back tile. Theyve been featured in many books and destinations. In 2007 they opened a new restaurant venture. It is within a category a resource building in a China Town Community business zoning district. Collectively we recommend the following be preserved. The cuisine and red framed windows. The department supports the resolution to the business registry. The fifth business application is for jhw lock smith. A forty two year old lock smith business. Staffed by his immediate family. Its a staple across the city and routinel routinely referrede not been able to do much marketing or evep event attenda. In addition to regular lock smithing needs. They also have a collection of 1880s era old that are no longer manufactured. It has remained open for i the entire forty three years of business. The department is very supportive of their business. Our last legacy business application today is for the wok shop. Located in china town. The original and current day owner cannin mrs. Chan. The wok shop was originally located at grant avenue. Various satellite locations across San Francisco. Including the deli and square. Despite the various wok shop locations the business maintained a store front and strong presence within the nain neighborhood. The business is famous for its extensive collection of chinese cook wear most noticeably the woks hanging in the kitchen. Wok wednesday social media posts p. To reach and teach broader audiences. Its a staple for local cooks and tourists alike. It supports a resolution. This concludes my staff presentation. Im available for any questions. Thank you. Thank you, katie. If there are no immediate questions from. We have helped people in every single corner of the city. We have a multi disciplinary approach. Staff that has been there thirty five years or twenty five years that allows us to provide the highest quality of services. With that experience brings compassion and care. Never has our work been more important than this covid time. Our clients are isolated and scared. We are the only Legal Services organization that focuses solely on seniors. We believe it will help preserve our work in San Francisco. Thank you for your consideration. If anyone has any questions about Legal Assistance to the elderly im happy to answer them. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Hello. Sir, can you mute your computer or television. Thank you. Is that better . Much better. Your time is running. I first want to say that i appreciate the ability to apply as a legacy business. Im so glad to hear about all the other businesses as well. I just wanted to give a couple of insights of what it was like to set up my business in San Francisco. My wife and i moved to San Francisco in 1985 after i fini finished my residency. I was in a position where i needed to practice legally. I started here in San Francisco but became a founder of natural pathic medicine s. The people trying to seek the medicine i was trained to providei was awarded license number two in the state. As part of the legacy process, we were asked, how do you serve your community. We realize we serve several communities. One is our neighborhood on the hill where my business is located. Doctors were moving out of the hill to be near hospitals and things. We became a base on the hill to seek basic medical care. Additionally another community is my natural pathic medical community. The act to get licenses in the state of california so we could legally treat up tothank you. I hear my bell going off. You have thirty seconds. I just wanted to say that we have been active members of the community. My wife has served on the Merchants Association as treasurer for a number of years. We tried to continue our business and keep offering people integrated medical positions. Thank you, sir. That is your time now. This is jeff. Im calling on behalf of jhw lock smith. I wanted to eco what was said on behalf of john and his business there sm juf want to provide a couplthere. His business is that kind of entity of serving the neighborhood. Poo commissioners that conclus all business. The matter is now before you. Commissioner johns. Did you want to go ahead and speak. You might be muted. This is a Wonderful Group of businesses. It features really great businesses. The work up is very very good. I move that they be approved. Commissioner black. I agree. Fabulous group. It was very touching to hear Legal Assistance to the elderly. During this time of covid. The historic preservationist, i love that jhw lock smith still deals with turn of the century lock keys. We would embrace that. Im a proud owner of the giant heavy carbon steel lock that my late mother bought in the 1970s. Its just great. I just wanted to give them a shout out. I second the motion. Great thank you. Commissioner pearlman. I want to echo what the commission errs just said. A big shout out to annies hot dogs. Ive been there many many times. I want to identify and shout out to, i love that its called honk. The house of man king. It sounds like a strange acronym for it. Ive waited in line there many times. Excellent food when i used to work in north beach. All of these businesses are excellent and represent the Cross Section of who we are as San Francisco franciscans and the type of businesses we need to continue to honor. Thank you everybody. Thank you. I also just want to congratulate all the businesses. These are all fantastic Small Businesses. They contribute to the community in great ways. If we create a blog to our commission. If we do visit these places and we have individually and together. We can write about them and let everybody know how great they are. At this time when Small Businesses are so fragile i want to do whatever we can to support them. If we can do that and share our personal findings with commissioners and other people in the city. It would be a great way to promote the business legacy in general. We can get some direction from the city Attorneys Office. Im not sure how much a blog would be necessary. We can add a page to our commission website. Seeing no other commissioners wishing to speak. If you would be so kind. One of the Public Commenters is having technical difficulties. If we could have staff read her comments into the record. Sure. I do have some comments. Staff if you would want to read the comments. Im going to read verbatim what she sent me. Im hee here today to speak on behalf of my parents. [indiscernible]. I spent very little time out side of the restaurant with my parents as a kid. Weve spent more time in our lives in this tiny Family Restaurant than anywhere else and continue to do so. Its much more than a restaurant. For my familyfor some its waiting in that infamously long line where you can indulge on pt sweet potatoes. Its a Meeting Place and a place where you can rub shoulders or engage with a tourist. House of man king is a slice of history for china town. Its an accumulation for people all across the world. So much so it was collected to be featured in a major hollywood movie this year. I believe that as much as it would feel different to see house of man king missing from San Francisco. Im fully committed to keeping house of man king on the map for years to come. Help us with our goal as recognizing us as a legacy business to keep it here for generations to come. Thank you for allowing me to read their public testimony. Thank you, katie. I do have a couple comments. Thank you katie, welcome to our legacy business protbram. Program. I want to recognizehe n completely consumed in the emergency response. Once he was given the green light he has moved six. I think all six are the Cross Section of why our city is so great. Being a business that keam from new york icongratulationsand we hard work. I think if theres no other Public Comment. We have a motion and have to take roll call vote. We have a motion that has been seconded. To a dropt recommendations of approval for all the legacy business applications. On that motion roll call . So moved. That motion passes unanimously seven to zero. That takes us to item seven 9a. We commissioners are forced to continue item 9b as there was a dr filed against the project. That variance will be heard before the Planning Commission by the zoning administer when that is scheduled. So commissioners 9b will be continued indefinitely which leaves 9a for your consideration. This is a certificate of appropriateness. Staff are you prepared to present . Yes. Good afternoon. Planning Department Staff. The application before you is a request for certificate of appropriateness. A contributor of the dog patch landmark district. Located within an rh3 zoning district. Its improved with a three story rez den sharesidential building. Most original fabric and windows. Removed and covered with ass best ohasbestos p. Restoring tht facade of the building during permitted exploratoryat the rear of the building an existing wood exit share would be reconstructed and a ground floor open air will be in build. An extended pair pedestria meta. A roof deck with a metal guard rail. It is set back thirty feet from the front facade. Since the staff report was published. The staff has received two letters of support. First, that prior to issuance of the adenda, the project sponsor shall provide cut sheets for the proposed new windows, entry doors and metal railings for review and approval by department preservation staff. Staff request to modify the second condition that currently appears in the draft motion in light of the recent filing of the request for discretionary review so that Department Staff may have the discussion to review and approve minor alterations to the project, which may occur as a result of the discretionary review hearing. The second condition of approval has been modified to read as follows as part of the future review of the Building Permit by the department of building inspection or other city agencies, any required refinements to the project may be reviewed and approved by department preservation staff, particularly if these refinements are required to address building or life safety requirements, or if adjustments to the rear stair and or deck are necessary following the discretionary review hearing. If approved today, staff will modify the second condition of approval prior to publication of the final motion. This concludes my presentation. The project sponsor is also in attendance and will make a short presentation, and both the sponsor and myself are happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank you. There we go. Sorry, i was on mute. If that concludes the staff presentation, project sponsor, are you prepared to make your presentation . You may need to unmute yourself by pressing star 6. Project sponsor, are you with us . Project sponsor, are you with us . Monica, i dont know if you see or can identify the sponsors. Whats the name of the sponsor . Monica . Monica, youre on mute. Well unmute you, monica. Thank you. I couldnt get out of mute from presentation mode. I appreciate that. The sponsor is hail shatara. He should be on the line. I spoke with him earlier. Obviously, jonas, up to you, but it may be appropriate to move to Public Comment and give him some time to join. Well, i just got a message saying that hes muted, but i dont even see him. He should have been given access as a participant no, as an attendee. Hold on, let me see if i cant find him. Oh, i see him there. Okay. Sahil, youre unmuted. Hello, commissioners. Your slides are up. You can continue with your presentation. [indiscernible]. We can. You may want to mute your computer so we dont get the reverb echo. Hello, commissioners. Sahil shatara, im on the project [indiscernible] this is a project thats been in this repair for some time in disrepair for some time. It had a pitched gable roof in the beginning. Thats the whole slide from i think the 30s or 40s, and it suffered a fire and the gabled roof was taken off. An addition was done in the rear. We cant seem to find permits for it, and the addition was part of the original. Now its been there for more than i think 30, 40 years. It might have been built at the same time the fire occurred. The current building is settled on the south side, the right side, and we had gotten a permit to do some remodel work, and then after understanding the building had some deficiencies with permitting, we decided to do a little bit more extensive work there at the rear to repair the structure since it was so badly in disrepair. And so all the front facade is besides maybe the windows, the original facade has been covered over be asbestos shingles and trim. You can see the stairs are basically coming apart. Our intention is to restore the building as much as possible, give the facade a new character, depict the original character of the building, facade and the neighborhood. Were trying to take advantage of [indiscernible] turning that into a deck at the third level, and we are putting, again, a rooftop deck for the upper unit since that will act as outdoor space to some degree, and the lower unit can have the benefit of the yard for their space. The upper unit is two storeys, and the lower unit is a ground floor unit. It did expand below the existing inhabitable space at the rear, which is unpermited condition, but since its there, we decided to infill that area thats always in shadow and expand the living space to get more light and a better connection to the rear yard. This is a space underneath an addition in the back, and if you look at the site plan, you can see where the setbacks are in respect to the adjacent neighbor to the south and also the extent of our project. So if were looking at this is a little greater than the 12foot encroachment thats allowed, but it also extends to the third storey. Thats basically my presentation. If you have any questions, please ask. Thank you. Great, thank you, project sponsor. If that concludes the sponsors presentation, we should open this up for Public Comment. However, i see no requests to speak from members of the public. Members of the public, if you do wish to submit your Public Comment or testimony on this matter, please hit 3 in order to enter the queue. Commissioners, the matter is now before you. If any member of the public does make that request, i will let you know. Great, thank you, jonas. Commissioners, any comments or a motion . Commissioner pearlman . Yeah, thanks very much. Im sorry that mr. Shatara did not show the drawings of the proposed. All we got to enjoy were the sad state of the existing house. I think overall this is a very good job. I know the site quite well. I have walked by that house many, many times, and having something that is consistent with the dogpatch historical district would be well appreciated. I did want to ask about the false historicism issue on standard three, because what i didnt realize was that and i didnt see it in the presentation i mean, in the packet, was that there is a photograph of the house prior the fire, and it is a typical form with the gable roof. Its a very typical form in that district, so the whole notion of, you know, doing the italian aid cornice actually is just making it a very different building. I mean, while i like it and i think the architect has done an excellent job in terms of its detailing, and overall i think its a you know, it will be an extremely handsome building, but i just want to get some idea from the staff about, you know, why you thought this was the right approach. Thank you, commissioner pearlman. Excellent point. We did think about that quite a bit with this project. Ultimately that felt that because the property had been adopted as a contributor in its current condition, which is heavily altered, it doesnt appear that anything remaining on the facade is original or even could be called historic at this point. We felt that this was a very unique situation where a simpler restoration that was based on adjacent properties as well as some physical evidence found under the existing asbestos shingle siting would be appropriate, and we also felt that because the approach was very modest and mannered, there would leave open the possibility to do a full kind of true restoration in the future based on the photo that was shown earlier. So thats kind of what our rationale was here. The point is well taken that there is a fine line between a good restoration project and false historicism, but again, because of the adoption of this building in its current condition as a contributor to the landmark district, we saw that as appropriate in this case. Okay. Yeah, i just wonder about, you know, the level of detail thats in that cornice is so authentic that i do have a little bit again, i think its a very fine project, and you know, im ready to support it, but the idea that something would happen in the future to bring it back to the past condition probably is not ever, ever, ever going to happen once this project is undertaken because 20, 30, 40, 50 years from now this building looks like, you know, of the time of construction rather than 2020, 2021. So you know, i dont im just i wonder if any other commissioners have some thoughts about this. I just have a question for you, commissioner pearlman. Are you suggesting that its a different detailing approach than the original and thats why it may be more its a false position and we may have more information to provide a more accurate representation . Yeah, i think yes, exactly. I mean, its not that there never was an italianate cornice with a flat roof like this. What we see in the historic photograph is that it had a gable, so it is radically different from what its original was, and i understand that it was approved i mean, it was approved as part of the dogpatch legislation for the Historic District with a flat roof, so you know, in that sense you could say, well, you know, it is of this form at the time of it becoming a Historic District in contributing to the district. So it is completely different. I get it. Historicism at issue here. Right, and may potentially end up losing floor area on that upper level if they go to a gable. No, i dont think so. I think it would just eliminate the roof deck. Because it looks like the gable was above the upper floor, not encroaching into the upper floor. Interesting. Im okay with it. I would support it i didnt catch that nuance. Well, i didnt know either until i saw this photograph in the presentation, because i didnt see that photograph in our packet material. Commissioner black, did you want to make your comment . Yeah, i was taken by surprise as well when i saw that black and white photograph, and it actually kind of makes sense. There was something funny about the [indiscernible] projection above the front door, and that just didnt seem right with a flat roof, and that explains why its there. I think im okay with it certainly looks so much better, the proposed drawings look so much better than the structure now. Im sorry that they are not doing the gabled, but i think im okay with the plans as they are proposed. Sorry, commissioner so . Aur on youre on mute. Thank you for the clarification. Its a pretty tricky one, right, to kind of look at the [indiscernible] of the project sponsor and it just some a aerial photos and some pictures. Im looking at the exhibit thats supported here on the material, and it does look [indiscernible] of the architecture, and i am not against it, and i wonder what is the design logic to take on to choose this particular style versus all the other styles that we have in San Francisco. And i notice that in the staff report it mentions [indiscernible] features that were in the district, and i wonder if you or anyone had any images of that kind of to help myself to connect the dots between understanding better on the rationale of what style. Because were making history, i would assume right now. It is 2020. On this house. And once we do that, that becomes historical, so i want to make sure we do feel comfortable with this because i do agree with fellow commissioner pearlman and commissioner hyland that once its done, it isnt exactly really historical anymore. Lake its pretty much a new take on its the restoration. So yeah, i would like to know [indiscernible] this is a radical approach, right . Its a gabled roof [indiscernibl [indiscernible]. Havent even seen the material and color palette. That will be the next category of discussion. [indiscernibl [indiscernible]. My question is the concern on the form, and because theyve not gone back to the gable there now introducing an italian detail on there that wouldnt otherwise be there, i mean, we wouldnt ask them to change the form, would we . No, i think that its just the difference between and i know there are other homes in that on that street that have this particular form. There is a predominance, i think, of gableroofed buildings in the dogpatch historical, particularly over on tennessee, just behind it. I note that to the north side of that school theres a whole you know, theres rows of houses that do have the gable form. So its that we are creating something that, as commissioner so says, it is a 2020 version of a Historical Building in the dogpatch historical district. So i think that is the only concern, because i think as everyone i think degrees that, you know, this is agrees that, you know, this is very well done, architecturally its very well done. So its just how we, you know, address standard three and say were okay with that. I think thats the issue at hand. Monica, would you like to comment . Yes, i just wanted to kind of speak a little bit more from staffs perspective. To commissioner hylands point, the building that were looking at currently has a flat roof, and ultimately we felt that something that would unify the design was a terminating element at the roof line. I would like to remind you that weve revised the second condition to allow for some adjustments postapproval, so if there is a sense that maybe the elements of the cornice are a little bit too historicist, we do have an opportunity to pull that back a little bit in sort of consequent review, so i wanted to mention that. Of course assuming that you all approve of that condition today. Then i wanted to address commissioner sos comment. There iss a mix of the buildings up and down minnesota street. Minnesota street also has an interesting context with the schoolyard next to it. Its actually quite diverse, and there are also industrial uses at the end of the block. So true to the rest of dogpatch, it is a very interesting landscape of forms and typologies. I think that staff felt as though adding the italian cornice would terminate the facade without dramatically altering the building typology and the roof form, which the only evidence that we have that we know of is that photograph. So an accurate restoration would have required a lot of conjecture as well. Points are all well taken, but i wanted to provide some context and remind you that we have the ability to make some adjustments following todays hearing. I would add that i think the whole conversation around false historicism and whether or not youre able to tell the history of the evolution of the design and how that gets represented, i personally think flirting with the existing form, and if were not taking it back, then the next question becomes how do you detail the building, and if were detailing a new structure and trying to make it look like it was built, you know, 100 years ago, thats creating a folly, and certainly crosses the line and something we wouldnt want to do, and weve had cases like that before. I dont think this one does that. I think its a nuanced discussion, and i think theyve done a good job at what theyve done, so im willing to support it as its designed. Commissioner pearlman . Yeah, thank you. Those two explanations, both from commissioner hyland and the staff member give me a little more comfort in the nuances of this conversation. I know this is an extremely hard thing to do as an architect. Ive been challenged by, you know, having a planner say, hey, could you take that corner and maybe add some modern elements into it to make it, you know, clearly be of a different time frame . I know you know, and that kind of makes, you know, a sort of a bastard child between something that looks very authentic and then at the same time its like, oh, look at that, oh, instead of a wood bracket its got a cut steel bracket. Oh, that couldnt have been done at that time. So you know, i dont think we need to go there, and im fully on board with supporting this as designed based on the conversation. So i would move to approve with conditions as modified by staff. Mr. Jones, did you want to comment . I wanted to make that motion, but now ill do the second. Very good, commissioners. If theres nothing further, theres a motion thats been seconded to approve this matter. It looks like commissioner so might want to have another comment. Yes, a very quick comment, sorry. Im for this project, and i think the staff and project sponsor worked really well together to come up with the proposed scenario. I would like to give monica and the staff the authority to follow through on the detailed choice on material and color so [indiscernible] successful. A good example for that dogpatch neighborhood, i understand is a very diverse neighborhood, but its also very, very nice. Thank you for the good work and im supportive of this. I would just ask does our condition two cover [indiscernibl [indiscernible]. Yeah, thank you, commissioner so, for your words. We rewrote that condition with the discretionary review that is impending in mind because the person who filed discretionary review was concerned about the existing noncomplying rear stair. So while it does focus very specifically on those scopes, i think we tried to write it in such a way that we would also have the ability to look at other aspects of the building that need to be refined, for whatever reason. Certainly if we are editing the language, we can edit it further than what was presented today if you feel there should be a little more latitude, but i think that as its written we can probably make those refinements as necessary. I would welcome if he thinks we should change it any further. I think we do kind of have some preem with the way that its written now freedom with the way that its written now. I think were good to go then. I would agree with you, monica. Very good, commissioners. On that motion to approve this matter with conditions as have been amended by staff, on that motion, xhairgs black [roll call]. So moved, commissioners. That motion passes unanimously 70 and places us on item 10 for case no. 2019021832coa, 300 bartlett street, also known as 3359, 24 street. [indiscernible] certificate of appropriateness. Staff, are you prepared to make your presentation . Yes, i am. The floor is yours. [indiscernible] good afternoon, commissioners. The application before you today is a request for a certificate of appropriateness for interior and exterior alterations on a twostorey over basement addition to the building located at 300 bartlett street, also known as munition branch library. One of the carnegie libraries, is city landmark no. 234, designated in 2002 for its association as a carnegie grantfunded project and for its architecture. The two storey Public Library constructed 1905 and designed in a [indiscernible] architectural styles and features a tiled roof, overhanging [indiscernible] roof, terra cotta applied features and is clad in terra cotta. The building underwent a number of interior alterations that resulted in the loss of the original stair and addition to the south side and other treatments. The current scope of work includes the following. Restoration of the historic 24th street entrance, interior alterations to remove and modify much of the [indiscernible] in the 90s. Reintroduction of the introduction of a new central stairway in the historic location. Addition of landscaping and streetscaping on bartlett street, which include fronting and benches and landscape planters. And a twostorey lshaped addition over the south and west side. The project was reviewed by the Architectural Review Committee on march 18, 2020. The sponsor has addressed most of the comments provided by the arc, however, arcs comments related to bartlett street, specifically the height of the fence, and the new stair, materials and relationship to what the historic stair looked like were not fully addressed. This is outlined on page 3 of the report. Some say that the proposed work is generally in conformance with the requirements of article 10 and the secretary of engineer standards and recommends approval of the certificate of appropriateness subject to the following conditions. First, that prior to the issuance of the building of site permits, the sponsor shall revise bartlett street comments provided by the a. R. C. Prior to the issuance of the building site permit, the project sponsor shall work closely with staff on [indiscernible] that is the subject of the historic stairs based on documentation and in keeping with common [indiscernible] a. R. C. [please stand by]