Transcripts For SFGTV Police Commission 20240713

Accountability board. You have a quorum. Thank you. Good evening, everyone. This is the december 11th, 2019 meeting of the San Francisco police commission. We do have a lengthy meeting tonight due to items on closed session and the complexity of the issues on the agenda so we will be limiting Public Comment to two minutes. Just a few housekeeping matters before we get started, there are some line items on the agenda that we will be removing from the agenda. Line item two is being removed from tonight agenda at the chief s request so sfpd and d. P. A. Can review and discuss. A line item one a is also being removed from the agenda. This is the presentation of the first and Second Quarter 2019 firearm discharge review board findings. That is an item that is obviously very important and we take seriously. I know many of us received the materials yesterday so we need additional time to look at the cases and prepare for the meeting. We will be moving that to the january 8th agenda. And then finally, in the closed session agenda, item c. Is being removed. Just a couple things, commissioner taylor. With a the juvenile policies and procedures and fdr, are they both being removed for january 8 th . Line item two, i will leave that to d. P. A. And the chief. I know d. P. A. Wanted time to be able to look at the proposed changes and perhaps talk about it with the department. I dont know the next Commission Meeting we didnt. That wasnt from us. Heres my concern. It has been seven months since the ordinance passed and this issue has been come has become ripe. We do not have a bulletin or some policy by the Police Department on how to deal with these situations. So i dont want to kick it further down the road too long because i think this is very important and, you know, chief, you and i have spoken about the youth issues and incidences that happened at balboa and how important it is to get something in place. That is my first question. My second question is whether or not the Police Department and d. P. A. Have reached out to the community, including people like patty lee from the Public Defenders Office who has received National Awards on her work in juvenile issues, juvenile detention, and miranda warnings. I think has also helped, you know, the legislation that was crafted by the board of supervisors. Those are my two issues. Then i have an issue with fdrb after that. Chief, january 8th, will that be enough time . I think it should be. Do we have room on the january 8th calendar . We do. We will move line item two to the january 8th agenda. My other thing with the fdrb report, we did not receive that until yesterday and i have been noticing instances where the department has things put on the agenda on the calendar and it will hit friday when we have to post it online, but we as commissioners do not receive the material until monday late monday or even tuesday, which isnt fair to us because as you know, we all have fulltime jobs most of us read this stuff on night and weekends. The fdrb report is very important. I received it yesterday, because apparently the department did not provide it, and it should have been in on friday. I will ask you, chief, to hold the department accountable and make sure these materials are provided to our Commission Office by friday at five or at the latest, saturday morning. Because it is difficult for us, who do have fulltime jobs, and to use any extra time we do have to read the materials and make sure we are apprised of the issues so we can have an intelligent and coherent conversation about these issues. Im scrambling at the last minute to try and get this stuff done when it is handed to me at the 11th hour. Im going to ask you to police personally to please hold the department accountable. I would agree with that. I know it would be good to have more than 24 hours to review this with a fulltime job. I understand. We will make that happen. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. We apologize for the stress that caused you. Thank you. With that, can we call the first line item . One a is chiefs report. Weekly crime trends. Provide an overview of offences occurring in San Francisco. Significant incidents. The chiefs report will be limited to a brief description of the significant incidents. Commission discussion will be limited to determine whether to calendar any of the incidents for future Commission Meeting. Major events. Provide a summary of planned activities and events occurring since the previous meeting. This will include a brief overview of any unplanned events or activities occurring in San Francisco having an impact on public safety. Discussion on unplanned events and activities be limited to determine whether to calendar for a future meeting. Thank you. Good evening, commissioners. I will start with our crime trends. I will be brief on the crime trends and move on to the rest of the report including the significant incidents that happened over the weekend. With the crime, yeartodate we are down 5 overall for crime. That break down his property crimes are down 5 , highlighted by 15 reduction in burglaries yeartodate and a 2 reduction in car breakins. Our Violent Crime is down 6 . We have had a total of 37 homicides for the year compared to 43 this time last year. This represents 14 decrease. We had three homicide incidents recorded last week. One of which was an incident that occurred on december 1st in which the person succumbed to injuries on december 7th. There was also a homicide reported in november with that the victim of an aggravated assault from august of 2019 who passed away from injuries sustained in the august attack. I will talk a little bit more about the homicide event over the weekend when i get to the significant incidents. Looking at gun violence, that is defined as number of people injured shooting injured in a shooting incident with a firearm , we have had 103 shooting incidents resulting in a total of 126 gun violence victims. Twentytwo of those were fatal and 104 of those were nonfatal. In looking at our shooting victims, we are 5 below where we were this time last year and in terms of our homicides with firearms, we are even with where we were this time last year. The homicides are at 14 reduction from yeartodate, december 2018. Significant incidents, i will start with the homicide over the weekend in the bayview district. This occurred and the 1100 block of oakdale on december 7th at 8 10 p. M. Luminary information of the victim who was 50 years old, he was at home preliminary information of the victim who was 50 years old, he was at home and other relative saw a suspicious person walking on the other side of the street. As the relative entered the house, is suspect pushed open a door, walked into their location and shot the victim who was shot multiple times. The suspect fled on foot. The victim was transported to hospital and later succumbed to his injuries. Investigators have located evidence in the area and the investigation is still very much in full swing. We have not identified a suspect at this time. There were also three shooting incidents that caused injuries to five people over the last several days. Two of the shooting incidents occurred on december 10th. Within 20 minutes of each other. They maybe related as the vehicle description is similar. The first one, one of them happened in the bayview and the other was located in the terra vale area. The three people who were injured in the two incidents we believe, based on description of the vehicle which is almost exact on both incidents, that these are related. The investigation is ongoing. No suspects have been identified at this point. Also over the weekend, we had an officer involved shooting in the mission district. Our first of the year. The officers one officer was injured during the incident and the person who was shot was also injured. The person who was shot is still hospitalized. And as we do with all officer involved shootings, we will have our town hall within 10 days of the incident. At this time, that is scheduled for tuesday at 6 00 p. M. At Cesar Chavez Elementary School. We will post that to the public and confirm that address and let the public know if that changes, but we are set for now for tuesday at 6 00 p. M. As i said, the individual who was shot was hospitalized. Charging decision by the District Attorney on this case has not been made at this time and remains under investigation. The investigations are being conducted by first the San Francisco District Attorneys office, the officer involved shooting the shooting itself is being investigated by the d. A. s office. Theyre independent into the investigation bureau. The department of Police Accountability also has an investigation on this incident as well as the San Francisco Police Department, internal affairs. During the town hall, we explained the processes and how everything works in terms of our officer involved shootings. I would note that this is actually the first shooting in our city under this recently signed an m. O. U. With the District Attorneys office. All parties were at seen on saturday. In terms of major events that are upcoming, this week there are several events at the chase center. The warriors have two home games this week beginning with the New York Knicks tonight and the Sacramento Kings on sunday. There are several concerts that will be held at the chase centre this week next week. We are deployed to handle those events. We did not have any major incidents as a result of the event this weekend. A lot of people were out having a good time but no major incidents. There were five arrests for people being drunk in public and five people that were taken to the hospital for severe intoxication. That was pretty much the extent of any incidents related to that tonight. This weekend we are having in conjunction with united players, we are having a gun buyback or we will participate in a gun buyback. Located at 1038 Howard Street on saturday, december 14th from 8 00 a. M. Until noon. We encourage any members of the public who have guns that they want to destroy our have destroyed to bring them to the gun buyback. You will receive cash or gift card in exchange for your gun. We normally get very good participation from the public. The more guns that are taken off the streets, the less of a probability that those guns will be used by somebody for purposes that arent good. Please, if you have guns in your house that you dont want or need anymore, we ask that you bring them to the gun buyback and turn them in. This is the 11th gun buyback that we have participated in with united players. We have had Great Results that have resulted in hundreds of firearms being turned in over the events that we have already had. That is the extent of the significant events and that is the extent of this portion of the chiefs report. Thank you. Chief, regarding the shooting that occurred, the officer involved shooting that you mentioned, is the individual i think i saw a press release earlier and i was wondering, the individual that was involved, no charge in decision has been made , so is he in custody or is he not in custody . He is not in custody right now. And then there was did you happen to see the Mission Local article this afternoon that recounted some observations from video of the shooting . Yes. I saw it. They seem to conflict with the press releases that have come out. Are you still comfortable with the facts that exist in the press release . We will be covering that in the town hall. And as we do always, we will make the video available per our policy. I think youll be premature for me to come in on that, but we have reviewed all the evidence that we have that we have taken in at this point, and plan to release everything in the town hall that we can release at this point in the effort to be transparent. I think a lot of those questions will be answered at that point. Okay. I guess my concern is if theres anything that is outstanding that is based on the review that is currently going on, not accurate or in some way there is concern in the past about the department and putting out information that wasnt always accurate. And actually, i defended the department to a reporter over the weekend and i was asking who was asking for more information. I said wait and see. I just want to make sure that we dont end up in a situation where things come out later that are contradicting and then we are in a position of defending the information that has been released. I attended the last town hall on the ground avenue and i thought that that was done really well. So im looking forward to the town hall in this event. I appreciate your question. We should do it in the parameters that we set up and i dont know what video we saw a, but we do have video. We have Video Evidence and we will release it per our policy. I think the public has a right and a need to know that and we will put it to the town hall. And this is the extent that something that will most likely come before the commission. We have to strike a balance of not delving too deeply into facts and opining on things before the matters come before us. Everyone obviously has questions and wants to know what is going on. Yes. Thank you for the report. I do want to echo a commissioner from last week. When looking at our trends, a lot of them are trending downwards. I want to commend you for the work that you do to stay on that trajectory. One of the things i would like to see coming into the new year is while the trends are going down, i would like to see how they are per district. I would want to see how the fatalities and how homicides look in certain districts last year compared to this year. While we see the trend overall in the city going down, i would like to see it in any of our districts in the city that there has been a spike as something we can look at. And also, chief, correct me if i was wrong, but i was reading in the paper today, there was a fatality with a pedestrian who was struck by a car over the weekend, too . There was. There was a fatality. It was bayshore and bayview. I do have some details on that. Okay. One of the things i was going to request is another report on vision zero. So while we have this program, we are consistently saying fatalities rise seeing fatalities rise. I want to see what type of solutions we are looking into two assists this number in trending downward. Yes, sir. We definitely can do that. On our page on the website, Crime Statistics are broken down by district, but i would be happy to bring that to the commission as well. Please. I would like to invite community groups, bicycle coalitions, for example, to come and talk about vision zero. Is a problem and we all recognize it as a problem. I think we need to put our Heads Together to figure out how to decrease what is a concerning trend. What time is this town hall meeting on the 17th . 6 00 p. M. Thank you. I have been on a long time and we used to get notifications before press releases were done. I have to say, saturday i was getting phone calls and i finally read it in the examiner before i was notified by the department that there was an o. I. S. I just remember when we first got here, we were the first ones to get notified and now the community notifies me. Even after they notify me, i still have to wait. All we get is the press release. I would ask if you can look into that and we can get notified much quicker than that. We get called, as you here, not that we want to discuss it, but we should be informed that some thing has happened. We already have. There were some issues with doc is under reconstruction, if you will. There were issues with the phone systems on saturday that caused some notification issues and also, we have looked into it. A lot of new faces on these teams and that causes a few of our issues as well. It is something we debriefed on already and that should not be a problem in the future. Okay. Next line item. Line item one b. , d. P. A. Directors report. Report on recent activities and announcements. The report will be limited to a brief description of announcements and activities. Discussion will be limited to determine whether to calendar any of the issues raised for a future Commission Meeting. Presentation of the august, september, in october 2019 statistical reports and presentation of the first, second, in Third Quarter 2019 quarterly reports. Okay. I have my ongoing information in terms of the cases. We have talked a little bit about them in the past, the numbers are continuing to go up. We are at 709 cases that have been opened this year which is up from 620 at the same time last year. In terms of cases closed, we have closed 621 cases versus 578 at the same time last year. We have 413 open cases that are pending right now on our caseload. This year last time we were at 213. For sustained cases, so far this year we have sustained 83 cases. Last year at this time we sustained 48 cases. And cases that are older than the nine months are having investigations that have gone beyond nine months. Theyre 25 of those cases this time last year. We had 22 last year that were at the same level. The mediated cases are also up. We are at 35 so far completed this year versus 23 this time last year. Of the 25 cases that we talked about that the investigations have gone beyond or have taken longer than nine months, 11 of those cases are tolled. And i know we received a more indepth report last week about what that process looks like. In terms of the operation monthly statistic report, you will get that section as soon as i finish the review. I promise to try and keep that as short as i can. I know we have a long evening ahead of us, but i wanted to point out that we have had a steady increase of the complaints. As of october 301st, we had 637 complaints, which is a 14 increase over just this last year. It doesnt count to the increase that we had the year before that i just want to point out and we will go over it, is our Case Summaries are much more detailed now in these quarterly reports which you will be seeing. Part of that is because of the new Case Management system. So before we were limited to 50 characters to describe a complaint and now we can actually put in full sentences. Again, a large part of it was working with this new operating system which took essentially everything offline for a period of time throughout the year. He will have all of that in front of you. That will also be presented because i want you guys to be able to compare what the system looks like in terms of these quarterly reports before we revamped all of them. I went back as far as i could to give you the updated information in terms of 1421 updates, we talked a little bit about you had the presentation last week, but i want to give you an update on what has been going on with that. The commissioner had asked for more regular updates about what was going on. Since last week, we have concluded our review of all of the cases that were potentially disclose a bull under the category. That was a big category we are working on for a long time and we disclosed one more additional case and request that we received. In terms of the mediation, we continue to have a successful year in mediation. Nothing new to report other than the statistics i have already shared with you in terms of the outreach. We participated in a number of events as an agency. On december 7th we participated in the district five family summit on the 6th of december where we participated in the Youth Commissioners mixer. On december 11th, our attorneys will be presenting an overview of d. P. A. For the Senior Center community. On december 11th we will also be participating in the power of Community Engagement, the blueribbon event at the bayview ywca. We also will be participating in many of the Station Community meetings and i will report on those as we participate in them. We do not have any cases in closed session this evening. In the audience joining me this evening, in case there issues throughout the evening were d. P. A. Can be helpful and answer questions, is my chief of staff and my senior investigator and our operations manager. Also my policy director. Thank you. Just one followup question. So you have reviewed all potentially disclose a bowl Sexual Assault cases in d. P. A. s whole history . Yes. Impressive. How many were disclosed . If i may, lets just go to the source. [laughter]. Good evening, commissioners. This is much ado about nothing. I am unclear. I know that it was not a high number, but i want to confirm before report back to the commissions with specificity so that exact number will be included in the next commission agenda. I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Thats it. Thank you. Anything else . We have to [laughter]. Yeah,. Next line item. Here we are. Before we begin, i want to pass out these books. These are what the quarterly reports looks like before. Theyre all in the record, but this is what i have converted things from what you are about to be presented with right now. Good evening. Good evening. I am here to represent the first , second, and thirdQuarter Reports for the department of Police Accountability. Each of the three reports follows the same format, so all of them contain summary investigation statistics which include the number of cases that we received each quarter, the types of allegations associated with those cases. They all have demographic information about complainants and officers and the outcomes of cases, which includes the cases mediated as well as the cases sustained. Those are all broken down by quarter. And note about some of the charts. All of the charts that are compiled by unit, there is a little bit of a formatting issue we consolidated them so they sit on one page. In the process it eliminated some of the delays for the district station. I just wanted to point that out. We expanded them and created bigger versions which we brought over brought this evening and will post to our website. It is the same concept in the reports currently but bigger and easier to read. In addition to investigation statistics, h. Quarterly report contains updates on our operations and our Core Practice areas. Those include the policy division, mediation, outreach, and auditing division. Because we all are very similar in structure, i will take some differences and some of the highlights from each of the quarters. In the first quarter, for the first time ever, d. P. A. Investigated share ofs misconduct cases at the request of sheriff hennessy. We also prepare the changes and obligations under the California Public records act, which made, as you have been discussing, confidential records disposable be . Held a mediator Refresher Training for our large staff of volunteer mediators and we had a swearingin ceremony for new staff. In the Second Quarter we worked with the Marriages Office and the board of supervisors to reach a balanced budget which will cover the next two fiscal years. Our division came and presented to the commission on the status of the audit and the difference between our audit and sfpds 96 a report. Our agency developed a Strategic Report plan and the Second Quarter a report contains a lot of information about our internship program, which is most robust during summer. In the Third Quarter we incorporated the new findings into our workflow under 2. 04, we were to adopt consistent findings language with sfpd so that was implemented when we rolled out our new Case Management system, which was the other huge project for the Third Quarter. That concludes my remarks about the reports and im here to answer questions that you have. Go ahead. Please. Okay. [laughter] i might have just missed this, but why do we get the threeQuarter Reports all at once . I will go ahead and answer this. Essentially this is for 2019 and we will have the reports were presented chronologically. That report was ready to be presented to the commission but then delayed for scheduling reasonings and to make sure all of the commissioners were present for that. And then these all, based on commission scheduling needs had to be put on one calendar and we wanted that done before the end of the year. Also, we revamped how they did the report. We could have gotten them done a little sooner but they follow the old format and would not have had the new details and consistent format that we wanted to present to you. [please stand by] will every single month i get calls from the deaf advocates who are at the table and they are so distressed that this has taken so long. I just want to underscore the great work that happened and that the delay has caused innumerable stressor points for those throughout the table. Where do they get bogged down i would ask the department in part. I know ultimately the d. G. O. Is it sent to cala d. O. J. For comments, but there were significant delays. And again, this was a working group. We had done best practice research. This is based on federal consent decrees across the country. We met you were there. You were there. Did i miss a meeting and we passed it . Absolutely not. The delays undermine the fabulous work. These advocates were coming to the east bay. They are individuals who work in the city. I look forward to us being able to present this next phase but it is urgent that we get it. Thank you. I appreciate that. Before you move on, are you able to speak to the delays . Part of what happened, as you all know in the commission, you have been involved in many of these policy developments. After we finished the policy, we actually had the california d. O. J. Weigh in as part of their Collaborative Reform Initiative pack. They had some recommendations for us. That process is part of the reason for the delay. A lot of it is just the negotiations that happened along the way. I know i said in some of those meetings myself with the mayor and others that it is just the process we have. It takes probably longer than all of us would like. However, when we get the recommendations from the california d. O. J. , then it sets us back to negotiating those. That is where we are on this. I will followup with the executive director to go to the commission. I think we are through everything. Just a comment, this is something that we talked about earlier in the year, which which was having a quicker turnaround of the documents and policies that are going through the department and not getting things bogged down in the process. I do understand having worked as part of the state d. O. J. Process , when they are a fort unfortunately overwhelmed. I do want to see things turnaround on the commission side. Please feel free to reach out to me if we are not if this is not moving forward in the beginning of the year. Thank you. I have a question on a few areas of the report. I will start with youth. On page seven of your thirdQuarter Report, the demographics of complainants. It appears, from my understanding, that ages 14 to 16, there were 46 complaints within that age bracket, which is essentially a 20 increase from the Second Quarter report, and then the first Quarter Report didnt even have the category in the cable. So i am trying to figure out why that is a pretty significant jump in terms of the complaints for that demographic, especially those youth. Im trying to see why. We have not looked at that particular statistic or the reason behind it. I am happy to drill down on what could be the cause and provide answers in the future. As of right now, i dont know what caused it. I would really like to know. A 20 increase is huge from last quarter for young adults. I know this is an issue that we are dealing with in terms of the new legislation that is being passed by the board of supervisors and the m. O. U. With the schools and all the work that the commission and the department has been doing about involving youth, so i think that we need an answer to that. And that is part of the value of the reports is to point it out in the analysis even that we would do is only coming from the complaint perspective. If there were complaints made or associated with those, that might be a question that is more appropriate for the department to answer about if it is correlating to the statistics that they have as well, but that is exactly why we have the reports so we can see stuff like this and chalk it. It will be important to see reports are being filed by this demographic and this particular age group. That was my first question. My second question is with respect to the next page on page eight with the demographics of officers with complaints. I noticed theres a rising trend in terms of the sergeant category. It appears in the Third Quarter it is about 10 and it is up from eight and a half or 9 from the Second Quarter, and i know it is a smaller category of officers compared to officer and inspector and captain, but i guess my concern is if there is a rising trend, i want to know more in terms of why that is happening. Again, i dont have a specific answer as to why that number is what it is. One thing that i think comments on this, as well as your previous question is we are working on the creation of the disciplinary review board that is newly required. And one of the purposes of that board is for us and the department to Work Together to analyse exactly those types of trends and statistics. These could be a good starting point for us. I will look into it further. I do think that the department and d. P. A. Have a plan in place where we will actually, on a quarterly basis, we talking about those trends and having a more of a conversation. In my third area, and then i will stop, is a supplement that you just passed out today that broke it down by unit, what is the unknown assignments . Are those the undercover units . What does that catch a good what is that category . Is significantly higher. Is that because it is a catchall if it is a catchall, what does the capital include . Unfortunately that number is high. It is a catch all. It is the default value when there is a data entry error or a data point that is not entered. That is something that we are working to resolve for the first and Second Quarter. Those numbers are based off of our old system. Now we have migrated everything over into the new system and we will backtrack and try to fill in those data points for the annual report. I think it is the Third Quarter. Do we not have it . I believe the Third Quarter had all of the data labels in their. Never mind. Thank you. Can you come back up . I was looking through the Language Access for the Third Quarter and i do remember these in the Third Quarter, but im wondering if you can update us. Can you update us on what has anything that has been accomplished or where we are currently . Thank you for the question. I met with d. H. R. On monday specifically to talk about what are the possibilities so we could expand certification for officers in languages beyond the five core languages. I also met with them to talk about institutionalizing the ability for recruits to be able to be tested, and also officers also be able to be tested from the academy. I also talk to d. H. R. About if we could get officers certification concerning translation. I was meeting with a new policy employee from d. H. R. , but the request that we had in that individuals mind seems quite reasonable, especially when i pointed out that employees have these opportunities for certification, but for some reason, sworn officers dont. So i had a good discussion with d. H. R. I invited them to come to our next meeting in january and they will do the research and hope that they would come. We also talked about the plan being that we would also like the chief to come to the Language Access working meeting. So we can really problem solve and be able to move forward on these parts. We have been working on them for quite some time. Can you let us know about the next meeting in january . It is the second tuesday at mission station in their Conference Room that is on the 17th avenue side. We meet from 9 00 a. M. To 10 00 p. M. I will also send out that specific date and the draft agenda. Thank you. Please call the next item. Line item one c. Is Youth Commissioners report. Is there anyone here from the Youth Commission . Good evening. Hello. I represent district 11 on the Youth Commission. Im filling in for commissioner jones, representative of district 10. I will be reporting back on what the commission has done and general requests. I havent done this before. [laughter] good to have you here. Thank you. And the Justice Committee we had talked about Police Officers and Community Engagement hours. We were informed that not all patrol officers are required to go out into the community and necessarily spend time in it. Is recommended, but not necessarily crucial. So we wanted to ask if there was some type of requirement for them to be out. Maybe a couple of hours within a sixmonth capacity or something around that so they can understand what communities they are serving. There is also yeah. As long as Police Officers are going and the communities are being represented. It is important for them to understand the members of the community and understand their issues. If were going to combat issues in regards of Community Communities of colour, trusting Police Officers is a twoway street. We have also had conversations with acting chief williamson chief scott regarding having plainclothes officers to have a more vulnerable and honest dialogue. Often times people may feel uncomfortable around seeing officers in full uniform, especially with the weapons that they may have. If theres any rumour flexibility around that, that would be greatly appreciated. Trust is necessary when building relationships with these communities, and investment into the relationships because history with communities can be so complex. Falling along with sfusd and the sfpd m. O. U. , we hope to see these voted on by the board of education with the recommendations we have submitted. We played a vital role in outreaching and putting our recommendations on the chief ordinance and we hope the department can make sure to follow the right procedures to make sure my people young people know their rights and their rights to council. In terms of what we can report back to what these commissioners have done since november, we have visited Juvenile Hall and met with the director from there and we had a conversation of what the daytoday schedule me look like for youth in there. We have had conversations with chief scott and conversations with yolanda and kevin. What we are working on currently is that person here . Sorry, kevin. And what we are applying to do in the next year, we are currently working on our budget priorities. We are ultimately hoping to do a resource fair or youth please youth police roundtable. Thank you. Wait, wait, wait. Not that fast. [laughter]. You have great ideas. I wanted to ask you about one of them. It was about plainclothes officers. Are you asking for uniformed officers to spend some time in plainclothes . Yeah, i was just reading off my phone. If they were to attend community events, for example, when the minister of justice attended a town hall, many of the officers were there and they were in full uniform with all of their weapons intact. And some of the individuals at the event and other commissioners had felt it was a bit uncomfortable, especially seeing it was if there is any way that a commissioner commissioner jones has said in adaptive uniform, away where they honor the rules that they have to be ready for anything that may happen, so an attacker, but also be aware that sometimes the uniforms that they may wear may scott justly or subconsciously trigger the environment and the culture that the room is an with certain members of certain communities. So if there is any wiggle room around that that would be appreciated. Thank you. I wanted to thank you, commissioner jones, because he came to our working Group Meeting this past monday and it was, number one, great to see him. I think commissioner taylor and i were very happy took us up on our offer to join or participate in the working group. Not only was he there, but he provided some invaluable input and advice in terms of us and a working group, because we are at the part where we are trying to roll out the bias free policing strategic plan. So it was really refreshing to have his young, youthful point of view, and not only that, he is a San Francisco resident. He was able to share with us some of the experiences he had growing up, as well as his family, which i think really helped put things in perspective when we are in those kinds of groups. I wanted to tell him thank you. Let him know i really appreciate it and i would welcome any other Youth Commissioners or youth to participate in this process because it is very important, and it does help us, especially when we are writing these policies and implementing these policies. Of course. I will pass that along to him. Thank you. Thank you. Chief, if you have any answers for the young commissioner tonight. Yes. I met with the board of the Youth Commission on monday and the discussion was around when we meet some of the members of the commission, and probably others feel uncomfortable when we are in uniform. The ask was, is there any way we could meet in a plainclothes capacity. What i told them is there are occasions where that can be worked out. I think we had our roundtable and many of the officers were in plainclothes. It can be worked out. But i also explained that when officers are on duty, they have to carry their equipment because they have to be ready to respond to whatever comes their way. They understood that part. It is just a matter of setting the parameters of the meetings where we can have officers like we did the last time come in plainclothes where it is appropriate. Is something we will work on together and hopefully have another roundtable here to discuss in the future. I did want to touch on that point because it is a twoway street. The communities will try to do is much as they cant have a more positive and more sustainable relationship with Law Enforcement. I want to honor that. Thank you. Thank you for your presentation. Of course,. One of the things i wanted to ask that you can do, and you might know about it because i thank you touched on the work you guys are doing around Youth Councils. I thank you have one in district 11. I thank you have one in district 11. I was asking about the Youth Councils. When you come up to the next Commission Meeting, it is worth mentioning the progress that you guys are happening having, and if there any issues working with groups to help you guys formalize those councils. I believe district one has developed a Youth Council. I know district 11 has and i believe. Commissioner jones that there is a d10 Youth Council in the works i am not part of that but i know that there has been evidence strides to make sure that the youth in the district 11 are represented because district 11 is representative of many marginalized communities, big families, immigrants, so there is a lot of political there is a big political culture there so to have that space i think with anybody, it is difficult to get the word out because of accessibility and who can hear these things. We have a little bit of accessibility for some communities. I think the Youth Commission has done a lot to help aid them around anything that they need of getting outreach and connecting with each other. Absolutely did. Thank you for that. I think that is worth noting just to see how active our Youth Commissioners are. The fact they have taken the time to say that they know either youth cannot come down to city hall, so we need to create councils within the district to make sure their voices are being heard. I want to speak to the activity that you guys are doing. Keep it up. Thank you. I am glad to hear that you guys are going into the community, and especially d11 where there is a huge Asian Community and their is a big need for translators. Do you have the capability to have translators follow different languages in that district . In regards to what exactly . When we go to those ones, we have to get translators to come because there is a heavy asian, and documented population and asian population. They speak a variety of dialects i am wondering how the Youth Commission, when you go out to these communities, are you able to bring interpreters or do you see that as a problem . It is a concern. It does go back to the point of accessibility. Many of the commissioners on these commissions are bilingual. We try to get as many people for any event. There is always a mix of languages. We tend to be very intersectional. We do come to issues, but it is one of those things we dont necessarily know because we know x amount of people are here, but who is missing from the table and that dialect . We do struggle with those things and we are making strides in order to make it more diverse. It is important to be aware of diversity but making sure these communities and people and spaces are safe for them. If you just have eczema out of marginalized people in a space, it is not safe for them and you are not doing anything and you are only contributing to the problem. We have made a number of interviews and meats and one on ones to work around communitybased organizations to get translators to get a workaround for and documented immigrants. That is a big population in d11. There is we want to go to these events, but we dont feel like we are seen. We are not historically allowed in these conversations in that language barrier. I want to say these things, but unfortunately i dont say it in a language that is socially accepted in america. How can i get my point across if they dont literally understand me . I want to thank you. So often i worry on this commission that we are in a small little bowl and we are not necessarily there is a very small segment of the population that can be here at city hall on a wednesday night at 5 30 p. M. People have jobs, people have families. I wonder i worry it is not reflective of the entire population. So much of what we do as a commission affecting people in San Francisco. I want to thank you for showing up here and showing up at the working Group Meeting we had. It is really important that we have the voices of young people. Just a little unsolicited unsolicited praise. Thank you very much for being here and giving your input and ideas. Of course. Thank you for saying that. I also think there is merit in being able to say that. Although there are 17 representatives, we are only 17 people and there are many districts. The issues are only intensified and we can only speak to my narrative in my story that. Hopefully that is something that not only this board, but our board as well can tackle and be aware of diversity and having everyone at the table. Because the concept of being a voices no longer a thing. Sometimes people just need to be able to pass the microphone. Thank you very much for that. You make us feel not good. [laughter] thank you, its amazing. Next line item. [please stand by] sorry about that. Thats okay. Its really just an announcement. I wanted to make sure i thank commissioner karen from the Southeast Community facility commission. Her organization has given help to underrepresented families. I think its the fourth or fifth giveaway shes done, correct . Tenth, i believe. The tenth giveaway. It was last friday. They do bike giveaways. I did want to make sure i acknowledged her and thanked her and her organization for their charitable donation to families in the community. Commissioner hamasaki thank you. Last week i attended a meeting at affirmative action for captain yick and one of the sergeants who i dont recall his name, as well as a number of members from the Chinatown Community to discuss the ongoing real problems that asianamericans, the Chinese Community are having in this city, both in chinatown and other districts where theres heavy asian populations and the Mayors Office as well. And really i think everybody is seeing the news reports and headlines so i dont need to repeat all of that. But people are really looking for new and Innovative Solutions to a problem that seems to have spiked up in a way that is causing a lot of real challenges within various communities. So it was good to be there and hear everybodys perspective and hopefully we can keep working to make advances so that theres no longer the fear or concern of chinese and asianamericans being targeted in our communities. Thank you. Next line item. Line item 1e, commissioner announcements and scheduling of items identified for consideration. Action. Our next meeting is january 8, is that right . Thats right. January 8, 2020 at city hall room 400. All right. Next line item. The public is invited to comment online item 1a through 1e. Good evening. My name is john jones. I would like to follow up on the chairs comment that Public Comment is going to be curtailed this evening because you are all so busy. It has been my impression over the years ive attending these meetings that this commission is uniquely unresponsive to the Public Comment. Ive rarely if ever seen a commissioner ask a question about someone commenting. If you care about what they say, you ask a question about it. The most important thing to this commission is the speakers add here to the twominute limit because god forbid we dont want to waste your time. With respect to the twominute limit, i think some people come up to this podium merit more than two minutes. I particularly remember the two chinese businessmen who came a couple months ago. And in my opinion, if i merit two minutes, they merit at least five, because they had a story to tell. So a larger question on my mind is whether or not this commission individually or collectively has the accuminimum to ask a question of john q. Citizen who stands up here and asks a question or makes a statement, whether or not you have the ability to discern what that person has to say. Its a question in my mind. I give up the balance of my time. Thank you. Next speaker. Good evening. My name is adrian. Im with justice. Im here to address the shooting of a young man of color in the mission on saturday. And i would like to know if the commission would ask the chief, right now, to tell us what are the names of the officers who shot this person, because that is not confidential. Also i would like to know the name of the officer who was supposedly injured and under what circumstances was he injured, and if they will provide evidence of that moment to the public at the town hall meeting, because an article just published by Mission Local has indicated that there was a video that was viewed by Mission Local, though not published, because they didnt have permission, in which it is very clear that the person shot by these officers was being chased and in no way presented any threat, therefore this makes it an unnecessary shooting that violates also time and distance policies of this commission, which i really hope you will enforce with disciplinary action. I would also hope that the chief informs us what is the records of these officers involved in the shooting, including what type of complaints they had had, disciplinary actions, internal affairs incidents. We also hope that you will give us more information about evidence that we hear is out there, which is drone videos that have been confiscated by sfpd, cell phone Security Camera, and whether there was any body camera videos. If the names of those officers could be please given to us, that would be great. Thank you. Can you repeat what the town hall is going to be, chief scott . Yes, thank you. Tuesday at 6 00 p. M. , this coming tuesday at 6 00 p. M. At Cesar Chavez Elementary School. Thank you good evening. I went saturday to the corner and talked to the community. It was upset, disturbed and yet not surprised, sadly, by the incident. We are very concerned why if there are no charges, has the family not been allowed to be with this man who is in Critical Condition. We know when people are in Critical Condition they need love, they need care, they need to know somebody is there. No charges and not being allowed to see their family. Their family was at the press conference last night. Why . This is cruel and unusual punishment. If any of you saw the video they published of this young man, he has had a difficult childhood with a lot of drug abuse around him. They showed video of him in a recovery program. It was amazing video saying how hes learned to try to participate in society. Maybe he held back from it, we dont know. Im not going to conclude anything. But i find this so disturbing. Where was the time and distance . How come the police are saying, and they are not saying what weapon, theres implications of a bottle that no one else in the public or witnesses have concluded or said that there was a weapon involved. So we are very upset. Now, that building on the corner there is mainly filled housing for parole and probation. So those people are very afraid and could be intimidated very much by the police if they try to say what they saw. So no time or distance, no charges. Family is not allowed there. Names withheld of the Police Officers. This is not how procedure is meant to be. Using time and distance, a negotiator, we are chasing this man down the street, obviously hes having some kind of incident. This is not compassionate. Its not fair. Its wrong. And i do hope and pray that he survives this. His body was also laying naked on the dirt [off mic] thank you. Next speaker. Yes, i would like to make some comments about the shooting on saturday. Specifically regarding some of the euphemisms that have been used in the discussion of it by this panel tonight. So i keep hearing the phrase officerinvolved shooting, which to me is a bit strange because what we are really talking about here is an officer shooting a member of the public. Its not just simply involved. Okay. Lets be specific. Lets not minutes words with that. What would be a better phrase . I would like to finish first if you dont mind. It would be simple to say that the officer shot the member of the public. I dont think we need to say officerinvolved at all, really. Secondly, ive been hearing people say that the officer and the victim were both harmed, which to me also seems like euphemisms. Lets be clear that the damages were completely disproportionate on the side of the victim here, as i understand it, the officer was discharged the same day with minor head injuries, while the victim is still in the hospital in the trauma unit, still in Critical Condition from being shot in the legs three times. Thirdly, i would like to be clear that even though there are nonviolent means to disarm a person who is being violent toward the Police Officer without a firearm, without a knife, these were not used in this case apparently or if they were used, the man was still shot three times. So i think we have to be clear about these facts in the discussion. And i think the panel has so far evaded the seriousness of this incident. Thank you. Chief, im going to ask you to explain. We often use the term officer involved shooting in this commission. If you can explain to the public what that means, what that covers. Thank you, commissioner, Vice President taylor. To the public an officer involved shooting is used to describe any incident in which an officer discharges a weapon at a member of the public, intentionally discharges a member at a member of the public. Whether or not theres the person is shot or not. Thats the definition of an officerinvolved shooting. Thank you. Next speaker. Im luke moody, formerly home lessen. Im here to speak about the shooting of jamaica hanson near 23rd and cap. The people want police to hold a town hall meeting without delay. I was here in this building a week ago speaking about the frequent flouting of senate bill 1421. This is a perfect opportunity for police to comply with that law and communities demand a release of all written and video records right away. A gun was discharged in confrontation with a citizen who was unarmed. Only the Police Department say that the man was armed with a makeshift weapon. We want the body cam footage. All three cameras, Security Camera footage and the statement from the officers involved as is procedure. All items confiscated from bystanders should be documented as well. Police have had ten days from december 17th to release the date and location of a town hall as is procedure. Well, now we know the town hall is scheduled for december 17th, tuesday, 6 00 p. M. At Cesar Chavez Elementary School which is the maximum at the extent of ten days. Lets work hard to follow the law and do our homework on time. Thank you. Good evening, commissioners. If i can hand a copy of my comments, if you would be willing to take that, please. I am patty, managing attorney of the San Francisco Public Defenders Office juvenile why do you want. Im responding to the very eloquent comments of Youth Commissioner on the youth rights bill. That legislation was effective in april of this year. And i worked really hard on with the board of supervisors in drafting the legislation and ensuring that it passed the board of supervisors. It was unanimous and the mayor immediately signed it into law. I will say that after my training with 11sros at mission station on august 21, many questions and concerns were raised by the officers. They were worried about violating the new state and local ordinance, resulting in d. B. A. Complaints which could pose barriers to promotions and worstcase scenario, what happened in Alameda County Sheriffs Department where there was video taping of conversations between an attorney and youth, providing miranda consultation. The sheriff is prosecuted and is facing four felony charges for eavesdropping on confidential communication. So the miranda bill was enacted to ensure protections for the youth. And i remind you this ordinance was written as a result of the Police Interactions with students when a gun was discharged at the high school. And since april, we have provided 24 7 consultation for 152 youths. Of those, 27 youths, 17 were 13yearolds. Six were 12yearolds and three were 11 and yes, 1 10yearold. So the reason for the legislation, we need to move forward on [off mic] i want to give you copies of the training that i did with the s. R. O. S. You can pass that to after they continue the training just so you know, the item regarding the juvenile issue has been moved to january 8. And i have asked the chief to include you in conversation. I think youre too humble to sort of say all to list all of your achievements, but you are one of the experts in this field. You were appointed to a federal board under the Obama Administration on juvenile justice. Youve worked tirelessly in this area and have received national recognition. I think this is a great resource for the department chief to be utilizing, especially in helping train the officers so they are aware of the requirements under these new juvenile laws and provisions. And i really am going to encourage you to please have the Department Reach out to patty lee who has been, as i said, sort of Ground Breaking in this area and been doing it for a very long time, despite how young she is. Thank you. I want to say for the record too that ms. Lee and the Public Defenders Office have been working closely with d. P. A. Throughout the process and getting us to where we are today. So it hasnt been an isolated work. Weve been trying to work as collaboratively as possible to move the agenda forward as quickly as possible on this item. I wanted to make that clear. The actual district stations, the officers just want to know whats going on and to be trained properly so they can follow it. They continue to call us. Because they are receptive. They want to know. And they are very intelligent, and they want to know what it is they are supposed to do. They appreciate the help we are providing. This is not on the agenda. We will be talking about it on the eighth. We could go on and on about this. I have two other commissioners who have questions. Clarification. Were you here for the thing we continued, the juvenile issue . For item 2 that we continued . Or did you have Something Different today . I guess im confused. It was just disappointment that it wasnt Going Forward for consideration by this body, because we need it immediate. Every call that i take, i was on miranda call duty last week for a full week. The patrol officers will tell us i dont know the process, can you help me through this. So the need is immediate and urgent. The chief has heard you. So im sure hes not going to wait to start training. But weve heard you. Sorry it got continued to january. We will be back on january. I appreciate that. This will be on the agenda for that meeting. Next speaker. I wanted to ask a question. So what happened to item 2 . I wasnt aware. So, again, i was late. Why did we continue this . Madame president . I think you were here when we said but i will say it again. No, i was late but i appreciate it. This was continued at the request of the chief. And there was some apparent miscommunication and ms. Marin was not provided with a copy of the proposed changes. And so the chief wanted to make sure there was enough time. And i do not want to belabor this. It will be on january 8. So with that, again, repeating why it was taken off, and we will talk about it all. Im just seeing members from the juvenile justice community. Ms. Lee, casey lee and ms. Chan. So it seems like when the public is turning out to have a discussion, we need to respect that. And i obviously read the d. P. A. Report on this issue. Obviously theres some real problems with the bulletin as drafted. And so i just dont us to come back in january and have to plug this again because the work wasnt done. So ill move on but with the admonition that i want this done on january 8, and i want the department to really consider i thought that the d. P. A. s letter on this was very wellsupported with receipts and authority. And lets have it done on january 8. Im sorry to the people that turned out today. And i dont think that pulling things off last minute when people have come out of their busy schedules. I know they are all fulltime employees that sat here and waited and now we are saying come back in january, inconvenienced again, because we screwed up. So let me just apologize on behalf of the commission. Ill apologize on behalf of myself, not for everybody, but let me apologize for the inconvenience that the actions of the commission created. Thank you. And the chief is also i want to say the chief asked we take this off the calendar. My understanding was ms. Marion, d. P. A. , they were not provided with a copy of the proposed changes. I didnt want to have a Commission Meeting can we hear . I didnt want to have a Commission Meeting where everyone who should be at the table wouldnt be at the table with the information they needed. So chief, if you can speak to that briefly, but we continued it for that reason. I appreciate everyone for showing up. But thats the rationale. Thank you, commissioner. The letter that i received from well, the copy of the letter i received from director henderson, i think it was monday night, had some points in it that were raised. We agreed with some of them. The bottom line on this is that the policy section that was cited in the letter, which was 3. 01. 10 requires process to happen. We didnt provide a copy of the d. G. O. To d. P. A. As the policy requires. But it also required the discussion on what items that were changed. So that process, thats what we are asking to occur. We are asking to follow the d. G. O. That this commission spent a whole lot of time working on. And we plan to have that done by january 8. Thank you. Commissioner dejesus. So that was my clarification. Because paul says its more complicated than that. It was. We had challenges with the analysis as well, but yeah. A different approach interpreting the thing. And that gets us into the weeds. But thats why i responded with the letter that i did, outlining the issues and then well take it from there. The only issue that needs to be resolved . There were five issues that i think it was five. Some clarity issues. What we would like to see happen is that we sit down with d. P. A. And work this out and bring a policy hopefully that we can all agree upon to the commission. Thats what we would like to see happen. By january 8 . Whats the pinpoint person thats dealing with this . Go on. The commander ross, the commander of investigations is the point on that. It will go through director mcguires bureau. She has written directives under her umbrella. So written directives are responsible for facilitating the draft but the subject Matter Experts are various other members of the department. The commander is going to be the point on this. Does everyone think this can happen by january 8 . Yes. The last thing i would like to say is Going Forward when we have an item thats complicated and we have public thats here, we can at least discuss why its being continued so not only can all the commissioners know why but the public can know what the snag was and why its not going over. I want to say we have to stop finger pointing and move onto our agenda. I want to thank patty lee for being here. Its no surprise the Police Officers call her for advice. She did a great job when i was a young attorney. Thank you for all your hard work. You were a great prosecutor. [laughter] we work well together. Did you pay her to say that . [laughter] thank you. You look much younger than me. Shes on a roll with you today. [laughter] good evening, commissioners. Im julie. I know all of you, and its nice to see all of you and those of you who know me know im big on collaboration but we cant collaborate if we are not getting information. I want to remind you its not just the public defender. We represent 40 percent of these kids. We have seen body camera footage where officers are confused saying, wait, what was the age, when are we supposed to do it . So clearly we need to do this. But make sure we get to the table too along with patty. And then the other thing i wanted to take a few minutes to talk about was the Youth Commission. And i really want to thank our commissioners who are part of this for being there, who came to the meeting and spoke. The more we can involve our youth, i celebrate their voices and their role and their importance in this work. I will share with you one of the comments that the Youth Commissioner mentioned was the feedback they have received from the community. Williams and davis and i went out to the Community Center a year and a half ago to talk to the youth. We asked them what do you want from this Police Department. And they said unequivocally, tell them to get out of their cars and get to know us. Tell them to get out of their cars and get to know us. So i agree with them the more we can do to create those conversations among our youth and among our officers, the better off we will all be. So thank you again, and i hope we see more of our youth. Thank you. Next speaker. I would like to speak again on the tragic shooting that happened on saturday. I would like to say that someone shouldnt have to die in order to treat this with the seriousness that it deserves, even though in this case we were fortunate and the person looks like theyre going to pull through, which is incredibly lucky, despite the best efforts of the San Francisco Police Department. Its still a travesty that has occurred in this city again. And sfpd kept everyone in the dark for days after the shooting. People trying to find out what had happened, who it is it happened to, whether they made it. It took days for people to figure out on their own without any information from the San Francisco Police Department. The Police Department kept this person isolated. They couldnt see their family, couldnt see Legal Counsel which as far as i know is no justification in the law. And i think that the fact thats not being treated with a sense of urgency, the fact that this happened and is still happening, is, i think, reflects on the system that this city as a whole for supposedly Police Accountability and justice that it claims that it represents. Hello. If someone even attacked me, i dont pull out my gun and chase them through the streets while civilians are around and then shoot them eight times. Theres been a lot of talk in the in the city about deescalation. And unfortunately we dont see the cases where thats successful, right . We only see these kinds of says caseys. Its still incumbent upon sfpd to show an accurate depiction of events as soon as they know of it and not just from officers. So what we were led to believe was that so in this press release it says the officers made contact with the person matching the description, how many times have we heard that in headlines . The suspect assaulted the officers with a weapon and officerinvolved shooting occurred. Thats the most passive language ive ever heard. Its a great way to deflect responsibility. And of course, still discovering the actual turn of events. But it took us five days. And a news report and honestly a lot of media attention, to really get to the bottom of this, which was that a Police Officer were chasing someone who probably had a bottle in their hand, throughout the streets of the mission. And having the mission with use of force, not a good look, sfpd. I would like to see the board being much more straightforward and not saying this was a specific turn of events. And obviously no one should be left, especially someone my age, who is 25, should left alone to wake up in the hospital without any family or legal representation. Thanks. Can i make an additional comment given that two minutes and above were given to an agenda item that was not even on the agenda . I would like to basically mention that the police also breeched the penal code in denying access to family to the victim while he was while they yesterday, according to the criminal code, i understand that after even in custody, after 48 hours, that person must be given access to attorney and or family. The family was there for six hours. And i believe those officers need to be disciplined who denied access to jamaica hanson. Im making the d. P. A. Aware of this complaint as well. Thank you. Thank you. Any further Public Comment online on line item 1 . Good evening, everyone. I dont know what im going to say so im going to talk about my son now even though we are talking about homicide and all the killings that have been happening here and the ones that have been shot, especially the young man they are talking about now, concerning officerinvolved shooting. May i use the overhead . I brought this last week, talking about officers and violence. And im saying that because it doesnt matter who is doing it. And i want to tell those people that when they are talking about representation from family members, i wish that same things, the uproar that they are doing about officerinvolved shooting that they would do about community violence. I bring this because my son was murdered august 14, 2006. And they have the names of all the persons that shot my that were there when they murdered my son. Thomas hannibal, jason, anthony carter, marcus carter, one of them is deceased. So i walk around with my pictures all the time to let you know that we talk about these people that are the mothers and fathers. My son had a father. A mother and a father at home i bring these pictures because i want people to see what i go through and know what i go through and that young man that was shot, that young man had been murdered that his family would be here also. The pain goes both ways, whether its the police or an officer or a community person. Again, this is what they left me with. The son laying on the gurney, lifeless. This is my therapy, yall. So this is what i come and do. Thank you. Thank you, ms. Brown. I hate that we have to say this every week, but the anonymous tipline for anyone who has information about the death of your son is 415 5754444. And i look forward to the day when we no longer have to give this number. Thank you. Its definitely horrible that she has to go through that. I think one of the main situations is civilians and criminals or whatever, criminals are supposed to do criminal things. Police officers are supposed to do good things. And, you know, shooting someone eight times seems more like overmalicious intent to do grave bodily harm and possibly murder. I think im just very enraged at the way government treats its citizens. Most of the people that, when we were protesting and rioting in city hall and in the streets, most of the people on this commission are gone. I just want to remind you that you, mr. William scott, you got your position because we protest and riots to get the person who was aloof to our lots in life, our blood ran in the street, and they were aloof. We protested and riots. They are gone. The police chief with the aryan nation haircut is gone, and you are here now. I want you to consider i have a funny feeling we havent all gone to oakland. We are still here. We are still willing to defend our lives and our community. So you are just stay off the shit list. We will be seeking justice. And i litigate against the city, i get stronger. Next line item. Line item 3, discussion and possible action to adopt a resolution urging the board of supervisors to authorize the chief of police to retroactively accept and expend a grant in the amount of 298,000 from the department of Homeland Security federal Emergency Management to purchase an underwater remote operated vehicle, discussion and possible action good evening. My name is patrick. Im the chief Financial Officer for the San Francisco Police Department. Tonight we are requesting the approval of the commission for a resolution for the 2019 Port Security grant program. The actual grant is for 298,414. There is a 25 percent local match in the amount of 99,471. The grant funds will be used to purchase a video remote operated vehicle that would give our marine unit the ability to search and mitigate potential underwater threats and to help secure our Port Security and infrastructure. Our marine unit is the primary Agency Responsible for securing our Port Infrastructure and for patrolling our waters. There are no similar capable remote operated vehicles within the San Francisco bay area region. For this equipment would be stored and headquartered at our San Francisco marine unit headquarters, but it would also be made available to our other Law Enforcement partners within the San Francisco bay area as a mutualial aida set if the need arises. Mutual aid asset if the need arises. I would be happy to answer questions. Commissioner dejesus. You have to forgive my ignorance. I dont know what you are buying. [laughter] i think its a submarine but we do have staff on hand that can provide information. Yes, its a little submarine. [laughter] im a supervisor down at the marine unit. Im also the dive team supervisor. [please stand by] i have the current r. O. V. I can kind of explain what it is. It has video capability. More importantly it has sonar visibility. There is zero visibility in the bay. I dive in the bay. Unless im within sixinches of something, i cannot tell what my surroundings are. With the r. O. V. You have sonar capabilities which emits a signal and we are getting sound waves back and we are able to project an image and able to locate items as in the plane crash. And it helps us to a future line item is going to be the dive team general order. It helps us to keep divers out of the water. Inherently diving is one of the most dangerous activities you could possibly do. It doesnt matter if its a real life operation or a training operation. Theres a thousand ways that a person could have a complication underwater which could cause serious injury or death. Having the ability with an r. R. O. V. , it would give us the capabilities to work in the San Francisco bay with current. Right now the smaller version, the older version is a very proficient tool. And like a lake or a pond or Something Like that, but in the bay, as we know, there is a tidal change four times a day. So that limits our operational capabilities to about maybe 15 minutes at a time when the tides are slack. Its a great tool. If there are any questions, i can answer them. I have one more. This is more curiosity. I was looking at the price. Are we purchasing new equipment or is this military equipment . Its not military equipment. It is new equipment. It does give us the ability for example, beside recoverytype of applications, when we have fleet week we will routinely do sonar scans on piers. If theres a suspicious anomaly underwater, we have the ability to send the r. O. V. Down to take a look. If it rises to the level of higher suspicion, then we would contact the e. O. D. Dive team to go hands on with it. If we dont have to put a diver in that dangerous type of a situation, its no different than a canine or perhaps how the bomb squad has robots they will send into environments like that. Great, thank you. Thank you very much for your presentation. I too thought this was a submarine. Just so you know, commissioner dejesus has always asked to go on the marine unit and go on the boats. Shes been asking for 12 years. We can arrange it. See, making a mischristmas wish happen over here. I forgot about the boat. Right. Is it just a camera basically . Basically yes. It has a remote control. Ill just show you. Theres a camera attachment to it, so like i said, with zero visibility, the human eye can maybe see at best six to 12 inches. This would give us the ability to see three feet. But three feet, it doesnt really do us any good. The sonar is the bread and butter of the equipment. Oh, there it is. Like a little robot. Thats 300,000 . Theres attachments that go on. Theres an articulating hand that can grab onto things. So in a plane crash, we could grab on to a part of the fuselage once we located the fuselage. Prior to that, we were locating the field ladder and we were able to grab onto that and recover that. Theres a serial number so we could confirm that was the plane that crashed in the midair collision. So it is basically an underwater robot. I thought it was something you could go on. That much money. It can do multiple things. So this older generation, the technology doesnt give us the ability to remotely hold station. The new one has this has three thrusters. An up and down thruster. The new one has seven thrusters. That gives us the ability to work up to two and a half knot currents. So we can possibly work for a couple hours. So its a huge, huge advantage, and its an invaluable asset for the department and the city and the region. Any other questions . I just wanted to see it, really. Its pretty cool. Do i have a motion . Second. All in favor. Aye Public Comment . Oh, sorry. Before we move Public Comment on on line item 3 . With the department of defense so im interested in this vehicle. My question, i think it would be good to put to the commissioners is how long you envision this particular vehicle being usable and so like its life span and whether its upgradeable. Is it something thats going to have to be replaced or something you can replace in pieces . Thats a great question. The particular model we are operating with has had at least three or four upgrades in sonar technology. You are able to upgrade it. So the useful life span on this is going to be well over ten years, if not longer. I mean, the biggest advantage from this particular the newer model is the ability to work in current. And as you know, the bay, with the current, if youve ever been in a river, thats what the bay is like four times a day when the current is coming in and going out. All right. Thank you very much. So no other Public Comment . Lets vote. All in favor. Aye. Passes. That was unanimous. All opposed . The motion passes. Next line item line item 4, discussion and possible action to approve revised department general order 6. 03, underwater diving operations, for purposes of engaging in the meet and confer process with the Police Officers association, discussion and possible action. Good evening, commissioners. Chief scott and director henderson. Im jason sawyer, lieutenant at northern station, coming here to talk about the general order, revising for underwater diving operations. We currently have a general order, 6. 03 which we are seeking to replace the prior general order, it goes back to at least 1999. There have been no revisions since then. If you review the prior general order, virtually none of it other than the concept of water applies today. The old system has virtually no its a page and a half where our divers used to use their own equipment. There was no real chain of command or any type of medical protocol. Ive been diving for over 30 years. Many of the years with the department. And i wish Something Like this would have been revised for all the time ive spent in the water. This goes very well hand in hand with what the sergeant was speaking about regarding the r. O. V. And the concept of there are so many ways a diver can get injured in black water or overhead diving. This new general order at least laze out a general policy qualifications, training, medical requirements, the personnel, basically who is in charge, the equipment, again, which is now purchased and maintained through the Police Department. We have so much highquality equipment now and spelledout dive operations. And one of the key advances that ive noticed in my time with the dive unit is go back 20 years ago, we did not have a very robust marine unit. The marine unit and dive unit were separate units. Now our marine unit is extremely robust, one of the best on the west coast. Our dive unit and qualifications of our divers is also the same. If you go back to one of our most famous incidents with scott peterson, if you remember, and lacey peterson, i was one of the primary divers in that incident, and we were not consulted initially, but the other departments did not have the capabilities of doing the dive. We were consulted, and we went down instead. Many days of time in the water to ultimately find and locate lacey peterson. Because our unit is so robust, we are called upon by many other outside agencies, both in San Francisco and outside of San Francisco just because of the capabilities of our divers. We ask that we can just get some type of policy put in place to help protect the divers and the department. Does anybody have any questions . No questions from commissioners . Move to adopt. Second. Thank you for what you do. Getting in those waters i can tell you, its a lot different than going to cozumel. Any Public Comments before we move for a vote . I dont see anyone. All right. Want to vote . All in favor . Aye. Anyone opposed . All right. The motion passes. You get to play with the mini submarine too . I tell you what, we used a piece of equipment like that in locating lacey peterson. It was phenomenal because like the sergeant alluded to, instead of having us down there, if we were trying to search an area the size of this room, it would take days. Like you are on your hands and knees crawling, because you have no visibility. To use a piece of equipment like that while the divers sit on topside is a tremendous asset as opposed to you drop a diver in, they stay in 30 minutes, they are cold, they have to stay out of the water for a certain amount of time. By the time you come out your core temperature has dropped so much and you have to come back the next day. Its an incredible amount of divers you can put in. It takes time when but it saves the fatigue on the divers. One last question about the equipment. What happens with the old piece of equipment . Do we utilize it for training . No, you cant have it. Do we use it in conjunction so we can send one out . You cant afford that. Optimally it would go to an inland agency that can use it because it still has a usable life. So whatever the procedures and protocols would be, ideally, if we could transfer it to an inland agency that doesnt have the current issue. The time ive been down there, weve gone from mutual aid as far up to lake shasta to assist them with drowning victims because it is hundreds of feet deep. We can send a piece of equipment down. And theres almost zero risk other than maybe an entanglement hazard. But hopefully we can give it away to somebody, whatever the policies and procedures would be. That was more of the question. In lieu of the question that phil asked, also ensuring that as it is an investment that we really get the entire life span of it. And it was purchased through grants funds as well when we did receive it. All right, cool. Free federal money. Thank you for your time. Next line item. Line item 5, general Public Comment. Public is now welcome to address the Commission Regarding items that do not appear on tonights agenda but that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission. Speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners or department or d. P. A. Personnel. Under Police Commissioner rules of order, during Public Comment, Neither Police or d. P. A. Personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions presented by the public but may provide a brief response. Individual commissioners, the police and d. P. A. Personnel should refrain from entering into any debates or discussion with speakers during Public Comment. Good evening, commissioners. Chief scott, director henderson, im deputy public defender brian cox. Im here to raise two points related to sb1421 records they have a legal mandate to produce. I would like to thank the Commission Commission for its wisdom in asking both departments to report on the progress of complying. I think thats a great idea and is going to help add clarity to our process. The first point i want to raise is about tracking mechanisms. D. P. A. Has created a tracking mechanism as new complaints and investigations occur. We havent heard from sfpd on whether it plans to do the same. As we heard last week, identifying and locating these records can be challenging. Some of that problem could be helped by creating a mechanism to immediately identify new sb1421 records as they are created by the departments. The departments should make their systems operational as quickly as possible, even if the Technological Infrastructure is currently in development. With as much transparency as possible to save time and effort later on. My second point is about ongoing public incidents. Both departments should publish sb1421 records with new incidents without waiting for a request. Publishing on a online database can streamline disclosure. The public should hear more about both processes in the database departments intend to build. These two common sense procedures that will make future sb1421 efforts faster and make sure the public gets what it is entitled to. The public should encourage the departments to create the tracking mechanism and release new public incidents on their own. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker. My name is sean jones. My it please the commission, i wanted to tell you that i really wanted to hear out hear what the woman in the gray sweater had to say earlier this evening. The fact that she was told to sit down and shut up was rude. I think its an abuse of discretion not to grant her an additional minute or two to complete her thoughts. Think if you will, for a minute, how that incident would play out if put on tv in moscow. What would they think of the Great American democracy if they see citizens treated like that . I ask you, just think about it. Sir, i have a question. Who was told to sit down and shut up. I dont recall that happening tonight. Im sorry . Who was told to sit down and shut up. Thats what you do. What does that say . Sit down and shut up. All you had to say, not addressing you personally, madame Vice President , but all you had to say was take another minute, we want to hear what you have to say. This commission never does that. Its always, we are going to listen to you because we have to and we are going to get on to the more interesting stuff later. Thats what it looks like. Call me wrong. I could be wrong. But its terrible. Its just bad theater. People come up here because they want to be heard. Its scary to talk in public. You are not dealing with people who have the skills to organize complex thoughts into a two twominute presentation. Thats difficult to do, to develop over time. So what im telling you is you want to know why people dont come . Thats a reason. Thank you very much. Good evening again. I wanted to say thank you for mentioning the anonymous number that you do every time i come here. I need that. I need it to be continued. I know its repetitive and i keep saying it. I feel the same way when i come here every wednesday that im just saying the same thing over and over and over again, but i need to do this for myself. Its not for anybody, its for myself. And i do want the public and sf gov television to see this and to know that im hurting and that im in pain. I bring my granddaughter with me when we should be at home studying, but im not. We study but not like we should. But i wanted to thank you guys for and please continue to say that number. And im hoping that if you are no longer here, the next person will say it and the next person will say it until i get justice for my son. So thank you. Thank you so much. 415475444. Is there any additional june Public Comment . She doesnt have your skills yet. All right. Sorry. It happens. Good evening. Im wondering when and where will the information be posted regarding the meeting regarding what evidence shes going to produce about the shooting, like when and where will that be at and where will you post it . Do you want to again this coming tuesday at 6 00 p. M. On Cesar Chavez Elementary School. If there are any changes where can people find that information . On the website. Well also post it publicly. [please stand by] closed session including Public Comment on items a seven. Vote whether to hold item eight in closed session. Is there any Public Comment online item eight moving into line item seven, moving into closed session . No Public Comment. Vote on whether or not to move into closed session . Second. All in favor . Aye. Before we go into closed session, i would like to vote on whether to invoke the attorney and client privilege for those items as well. Is there a motion . So moved. Item nine, vote to elect whether to disclose what was discussed in closed session. Aye. Is anyone for adjournment . Aye