The minutes of october 22nd, 2019. Are there any additions or corrections . Any Public Comments on the minutes of october 22nd . May i have a motion . All those if favor . Aye. Opposed. The motion carries. Next item, please. Clerk item 4 is general Public Comment. Members of the public hey direct the commissioner on matters within the commissions jurisdiction and not on todays agenda. President caen i have some speaker cards. Mr. Decosta. Commissioners, its novembe november 2019 and the community in the bay view Hunters Point keep asking the advocates why is it smelling so much . The stench . From the digesters that are now operating. The stench also is in the creek. So, i see that some of you commissioners have visited the is the east, what i call the raw Sewage Treatment plant, but what are you doing about it . For how long is the Community Going to be impacted . And i say this because we have all sorts of vultures i call them vultures because theyre outsiders coming in, doing surveys and trying to ask questions of the citizens but not once have i seen the sfpuc do anything linked to health, linked to blood testing, linked to the adverse impacts that the raw Sewage Treatment plant has impacted the community all these many years. And i know, among yall, some of yall have your heart in the right place. Not all of yall but some of yall. So, who is going to stand up and speak truth . Who is . Not once have yall discussed here with the accountability and transparency the socalled Community Benefits that is operated by assistant general manager of external affairs chief strategist. So the community is hurting. The most vulnerable in the community are hurting. The children, the infants, the elders, and those with compromised health. More of those who are physically and mentally challenged. What are yall doing, commissioners . Whatever is going on in washington d. C. Something needs to be done there. A veron the matters im talking about. Thank you, very much. President caen thank you for your input. Next speaker, eileen brocken. Coalition for San Francisco neighborhoods here on my own behalf. At its october General Assembly meeting, the coalition for San Francisco neighborhoods passed a resolution supporting emergency firefighting capabilities on ter aville as part of theel tell aville project which includes transit, water and sewer upgrades. A copy of this resolution has been submitted to the commission secretary. The resolution supports dedicated high pressure, high volume resilient pipes and high grants as well as an ocean pump station. The merchants also known as pops, have voted to support the csfn resolution. They introduced the resolution at csfn and also at the merchants. Ter aville is a transit corridor and a commercial corridor. To be consistent with the citys policy, aish was included in the original puc plans for ter aville. It was not. Therefore, the taraville neighbors and merchants have taken it upon themselves to note this glaring emission and advocate for the puc to rectify it. Other issues that are being brought before the commissioner are as follows that the south base on of Sunset Reservoir has not been seismically retro fitted and they are reviewing the management plan. The cfnn are advocating for the waters off ocean beach to be included in the sanctuary. Based on recent information, the oceanside Treatment Plant may still be an obstacle to National Marine sanctuary status. Thank you. Thank you. The next speaker. Peter. Good afternoon. Peter of the i was glad you had a conversation about the 265mgd and it was very clear that there are no demand studies that project 265. If there, they are should be posted for poem to see but 265 is really the sales tap, 184 for bosca and 181 for San Francisco. And it was interesting that the bosca representative said a couple things, one, that theyre revising their demand projections and her guess is theyre le going to be lower thn 184. Her customers dont want to pay for projects that are unnecessary. Theyre sensitive to rate increases. Holding on to that 184 puts the sfpuc in a position where we have to come up with the water because if they collect on their full contract, we need to be able to meet them and that money will be spread out across the system. Thats an issue thats challenging for you, im sure, and something that needs to be addressed. Now the current demand is, the last two years its been less than 100mgd. Our guess its not going to get close to 265, even close to 223. But this is an opportunity. What happens though is the design drought is planning for eight and a half years of drought at 265 demand assuming no new Water Supplies are going to come online. What happened during the most recent drought was right off the bat, there was a dry year and it was like ok, he go into design drought mode. We release the minimum amount we have to. There are three years worth of water and storage at height of that drought. A different approach would be to acknowledge that well, right now, its demand is 200mgd. We will voluntarily give up water and early droughts. Maybe the first two years were voluntarily putting 40 down the river. And then we go back to where we takeaway that voluntary commitment and go back to base loads and we get through the design drought. You can model it and see. We meet the eight and a half years. That would, in these situations where we have shorter droughts, three or four years, at least of the river is benefiting for the first two or three and maybe we have a bad year, a bad couple of years and the system replenishing and we start over. I hope you would consider that and we would be happy to discuss these issues with staff. Thank you. President caen thank you. Is there any other Public Comments . Next item, please. Clerk communications, item 5. President caen any comments, commissioners . I would like to address item 5e. And i would like to have a public discussion on this. So, if we could do it now or scheduled it at next meeting. We can schedule it at the next meeting. Is that 5e . Yes. Any Public Comment on this item . The next item has been removed so we move on to the report of the general manager. All right. The first item is the bay delta Water Quality control plan update. Age steve richy. Good afternoon, commissioners. Steve richy assistant general manager for water. On the bay delta water control plan as i reported routinely the commission we are working with the state of california and our partners on the river and environmental groups on trying to successfully come to a set of voluntary agreement thats can be reviewed by the state Water Resources control board as an alternative to their action to approve the Water Quality control plan last december. And i most recently reported, things are moving slowly on that front and the state is still working through numerous issues internally within itself. There was a hope and expectation that by midoctober the analysis would be ready to go forward to the state Water Resources control board. That did not happen and the projection is that might be ready by the end of the calender year or by middecember, since the last two weeks of the year people tend to not be around. And so, we are hopeful that that can happen. I am not 100 confident that will happen. Hopefully we will make progress with the state on the important matter. And thats all there is to report. President caen any comments, commissioners . Any Public Comments on that item . Yes, peter. Peter jackmire. The voluntary agreements it sounds good. Voluntary, its an agreement. Theres really no faith from the Environmental Community that can you produce more fish with less water. There are six environmental groups that are involved in the voluntary agreements. We are not. Not a single one of them right now feels much hope for the voluntary agreements. Weve lost about a year implementing some serious promising changes and conditions to the and we hear the science is inadequate and the analysis is wrong. The specific studies that were conducted by the irrigation district, they hired firms that came up with what sounds great, wow, we can accomplish these things without putting more water down the river. Staff argues that is superior to the state science. This is a really robust state agency and its really disappointing that were really at this point of battling science. There are some wonderful resources here in the bay area who under the science. It would be interesting to have a workshop and hear from both sides. Hear from the consultants who have hear from environmental scientist whos have been a lot of effort into this and disagree with that science and i would love to see the sfpuc take a leadership role and getting to the bottom of the best available science and how can we repair conditions and the we are really on the brink and this is our river. Were the stewards of it and were not behaving that way so the report in a two month or two months were still at a stand still with the voluntary agreement and at what point to are do we acknowledge the science is are not telling those who want it to say that these will work. These will work. The science isnt there. Thank you. President caen thank you. Commissioners, missing in this discussion are the first people that were here for 13,000 years thats 13,000 years before someone came and all the shenaniganses i have described to you before and they damned the most Beautiful Valley in the world, the hatch hatchy valley. Today you commissioners have to know your history the history of the area. Not ones as the sfpuuc met with the tribes from the area. Peter comes here and he does his best and gives you the data. I Pay Attention to it and i dont want to say anything much and it is onesided empirical data. For 13,000 years, the first people to care of the rivers and the redwood trees, the entire area was pristine until someone came and within 200 years destroyed everything and we get the pristine water and flush our toilets and we have to make the connection. So when they have this discussion in sack ra men co and they say ok, well do this and well do that and we deem the San FranciscoPublic Utilities commission and within the act yall have a right to fight and dyou ask silly questions and the whole area and the environment under the director of the Environmental Justice advocacy. The first people have not been consulted. Try it. Bring them here. Only one commissioner saw that and they speak from their heart. Theyre not scientists. Theyre nature unlike someones what i call the living dead. They have in soul. Call the first people. And try to see if you can bring about some sort of a solution. Thank you, very much. President caen thank you. Anymore Public Comment. Madam chair, i have a question. I have a question and im now saying it into the mic. If i could ask council about the question that i was just about to ask before just on a procedural basis. President caen certainly. So through the chair, you know, i attend Union Meetings and i belong to different organizations and very robust organizations just like this organization is and this commission is and the dynamic that we experience democratically right here. When i ask the question when someone from the public comes in with accusatory questions, i was told that with no dis respect, that thats not the procedure and why it is out of order. I sometimes dont feel comfortable here being accused, this has nothing to do with mr. Acosta, but i feel uncomfortable being accused of being in a process where im not allowed to enter change with public that comes to the microphone fully loaded and can say whatever he or she wants to and we have to just sit here and listen to it, which is wonderful. I have patients. I work on for the Labor Movement and i have many constituents. In my day job. So, i guess my question to you is why am i unable, as a commissioner, to engage someone who comes to the microphone and says things that i have questions about or that i disagree with . So a couple of points, can you direct staff to followup directly with a Public Commenter about a particular issue . Your first comment i was ruled out of order. Im speaking to clarify what the rules are. I dont know that president caen will do out of order. With no disrespect to madam president the general rule is at least when the commission is holding general Public Comment that what is to be avoided is engaging in any kind of item not on the agenda which item pre includes you from discussing specific items in anyway substance or debt that are not on the agenda. This was not on the agenda. With regard to matters on the agenda its within the commissions discretion if they want to ask a followup question of a present erroer or a Public Commenter. The legal issue is proper notice to the public that the commission is going to discuss a particular topic or issue. And trying to avoid getting into discussions of items that have not been a again diesed o on the agenda. An example is that in the if its voted on or heard as commissioners, that does not mean that the general public can come up and make Public Comment that may be germane to the issue thats being topics, which means you know, where is the fuzzy line between the comments of the general public versus what is actually been agendad and that is not where im going but its what im pointing out as little bit as to what i experienced. So, someone comes up and says something and im muffled from making a comment back. Thank you for the clarity but thats why i am asking that question. I can sit here for five hours and listen or i can participate in the democracy that i so enjoy. President caen what problem is that often times one question then leads to a discussion and then because that is not, as council said, on the agenda, thats where the problems come in. In my world sometimes it leads to a fight. Thats what were not necessarily interested in doing. I am going to thank you for clarifying. President caen good. Moving on. I think that i would like to hear a conversation regarding the science. Maybe we can schedule a meeting to discuss a lot of changes and Climate Change and rapidly. Different sciences, i think it would be interesting to be able to have a Public Meeting to hear the different sciences. And im sure you have had them before but would it be a problem to update . No, certainly not. We can schedule that. We have discussed this many times. Part of the problem maybe thats the wrong word to use. Theres a disagreement about the science. So id like to hear the disagreements and i think maybe people would be interested to hear the disagreement and they may not be so as far as we think but it would be a good idea. Its always brought up. Id like to hear it. So maybe what we can do is we can refer you to because we made presentations at the Commission Meeting about our science versus their science. And maybe we can actually send you so that you can kind of see what our position was and what, you know commissioner maxwell back into the past. Send me the information. We did a presentation on it. When you look at it if you want an update or something and you want, we can tailor what you would like us to do im here to serve, right. I trust what the professionals are looking and i assume that many of them are scientists looking into the things happening. I am a little bit leary of setting up a forum for someone that disagrees with everything that the puc is doing just because they have not been able to make sure that a differing opinion ends up being the result of what is moving. Setting up a forum just to have not debate but just to have disagreements to get back is not something that im terribly interested in and promoting. Commissioner maxwell thats fine. I would be interested in your suggestion and if there was any further information. As commissioner max well said, i would like to see on that information well because things have been done and were both new commissioners. Also, we can send you stuff that peter has done at other i think it was recorded at bosca . Your presentation . So we can send you a lot of stuff that we have. Its a good beginning. Thank you. From there we can move. President caen next item for you, mr. Kelly. The next item is a clean power sf quarterly update. Barbra hail and mike hines. Just you. Ok. Barbra hail assistant general manager for power. This is our Quarterly Report schedule. Were coming to you less frequently to talk about our clean power sf progress. What wed like to do with these Quarterly Reports is provide you with our usual clean power sf customer enrollment and Service Status updates. Then go into some highlighting of some of the activities of what has been happening currently and since the last report and then share a bit about what we expect to have coming up for you. And specifically a couple of items that well bring to you to weigh in on over the next quarter. So we propose that as the basic approach well take for etch of theseach ofthese reports. What has been happening since our last report and a look ahead. Its not working. So first up are enrollment stats. You can see we have over 400,000 accounts that were serving. City wide. That is about 3. 6 have opted out so were happy to report a 96 retention rate since launch. We have 1. 8 of those customers that signed up for super green and products and representing about 4 of our annual energy sales. Here is what is happening. Im super happy to report that we over the last