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[speaking spanish] your time is up. thank you. thank you. next speaker. are you going to translate? >> yes, i am. my name is louise who is a family man, a mayan indigenous man being murdered of the san francisco police department april 7th, 2016. the names of those officers are nate steger and michael malone. our family has looked fought for all legal means to demand consequences for those officers and so far we have been ignored which has deepened our trauma and despair. at the end of june, my family and i learned from a newspaper story that the department of police accountability found the says that -- subjects broke s. fpd policies that are there to protect citizens from police abuses. imagine our surprise and hope to learn that there will be consequences, but it means the d.p.a. is a brief and temporary discussion for each one. we also understand the chief of police can ignore this recommendation. more importantly, my family and i believe that we can raise the bar and police accountability and fulfil a long-standing demand of communities of colour in san francisco. that is why i speak before you today to employ you to take your duties seriously and defend the fulfilment of the policies that you approved to safeguard life. how is it possible that the only consequence for these two policeman for violating the law and killing my cousin is a simple suspension. enough easy enough. fulfil your duty and order that these irresponsible men be fired if you refuse every once and for all that you are a commission that does not take itself seriously and that you are really there to ensure the murder of incident -- sit ins go unpunished forever. >> i think this was general public. -- general public comment. i don't think this relates to something that we address. next speaker, please. this is on items iiia through 3d >> a response for the d.p.a. report that is also about louise by murdering this individual, less than 36 after they arrival at the scene, the officer michael malone and the sergeant showed blatant wrist does disregard of the life, date blatant bliss regard to the basic and simple rules of the use of force policies. time and distance. callous disregard for the suffering of the family and community. they should be held accountable for your restless acts of violence. i am asking that michael malone and nathaniel steger be fired because they are a threat to the public, especially to people of colour. as a nurse armed with only a stethoscope, i have had training in de-escalation and always use those techniques with the commitment to do no harm. michael malone and nathaniel steger had crisis intervention and other trainings as s. fpd hammered home the basic principles of time, distance and establishing rapport in a crisis since 2,011. they have violated every basic principle and killed a loving and generous father, son, brother, cousin, friend, someone who was particularly vulnerable because he was homeless after an eviction. there has been known just as already for family or for any of the families for police violence in san francisco. the very least that san francisco can do is take away their weapons and fire them from their jobs. thank you. >> thank you. next. >> this is regarding the d.p.a. report. the officers murdered them in 29 seconds. they should have been indicted and in jail, short of that they should now be fired. all of this talk of 21st century policing, de-escalation and creating time and distance is meaningless and b.s. if there's not the wait of accountability and punishment behind it. the ultimate bad behavior by cops will not be curtailed otherwise. and the case suspension is a slap on the wrist it is disrespectful and unjust and they must be fired to send a message. [applause]. >> any other public comment? >> good evening, commissioners. i am an episcopal priest and i have lived and worked in the mission for many years with my family. i want to speak to the d.p.a. report as well. as a gay man, i remember how i felt when i learned that dan white, after murdering harvey milk and the mayor would spend only a few short years in prison at that moment, the lives and struggles of gay people seat team trivialized. deemed unimportant. but our pain could somehow be placated and brushed aside by giving dan white such a lenient sentence. many of us feel that way today as we hear about the leniency shown to jeffrey epstein after all the lives he has destroyed and many of us feel that way hearing that the killers of this man may only receive a few weeks of time off for what they did. if this were simply an administrative concern, a failure by these officers to meet certain department standards or follow certain protocols not showing up for work, let's say are failing to submit the necessary reports, then an administrative moment and measure like this might make sense. but this is more of a failure to follow x-men -- and ministry have expectations, not just a management issue. it requires weightier consequences. comanche life was taken. his wife and kids will have a hole in their hearts, the trauma of those bullets that riddled his body will now be theirs to live with for the rest of their lives and the wider community of the mission where i live which is no stranger to excessive use of police force. these two have been traumatized. it is not just rhetoric to say all our lives are still diminished by what these officers have done. none of us will ever be quite the same again. please do not think of this as an administrative matter. it has profound human and moral implications and these must be considered in determining consequences. >> time is up. next speaker. >> i have a few of my own words to say in response to the department department police accountability agenda item. i am a 12 year resident of the mission district. i am a provider for the school district for good samaritan family resource centre and the felt in statute. i have worked with the family in the past and there was -- they are respected members of the community. when i am doing my job, if i were, at any point to violate the policies of the organizations i worked for to the point to which it led to the death of one of the members of the communities i serve, i would no longer be working in any of those organizations or any organization of any similar organization in the city. the bay area, california, and probably anywhere. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good evening. i also speak on behalf of justice for luis. he will recall that at the time that s. of p.d. rolled up and killed luis within 29 seconds of arriving on the scene, it was after the panel had been in panel to determine the depth of racism. after the shooting of mario woods, after the u.s. department of justice was here investigating s. fpd, there was so much heightened activism. i will never forget the january police commission meeting here in the tenderloin when the p.o.a. showed up to show their defiance. they did not care. in front of their own commission , their own oversight, they have no respect for all of the communities that are engaged in activism. your role as their oversight. you showed up with their guns, they will lead to their way to the front of the podium, and it was just unbelievable to me. that with that many layers of oversight that they would feel that they could just roll up on this man and kill him within 29 seconds of arriving on the scene who do they think they are? it is so important that we have accountability. we can have 272 recommendations, we can have the forward meeting, we can have all these different things. if there is no accountability when people defy these things, why are they going to stop defying it? i urge you to fire these officers, send a signal, assert myself. you are their oversight. they must respect to you. >> next speaker. >> good evening. my name is chase, i am a candidate for san francisco district attorney. i want to take a moment to reflect on the fear that police officers may experience when responding to a 911 call about someone carrying a knife. the fear that they would understand and experience when they get out of their car and not knowing what they are confronting that they are any day on the job. they do far more in this city than the agency was designed to do, responding to a homelessness crisis, mental health crisis, and drug addiction crisis. it is because of those fears that would polite just provide the police with overprotection, funding, tools, man and woman power to do the job. it is because of that fear and the risk that officers face in the line of duty that we have rules to minimize the help of violence and loss of life. and those rules are essential, not just to protect people like him, but to also protect officers themselves from being hurt in the line of duty, to ensure that we have trust between the communities that officers swear to serve and protect and the police department. trust that has been tremendously damaged by racism, by theft, by dishonesty and by murder that goes unpunished. it is essential for public safety that we have meaningful consequences for a police officers that failed to follow rules and regulations put in place for all of our safety. thank you. >> thank you. i just want to make one comment for the public so they understand think something. this commission does not have the authority to issue any penalty in a disciplinary matter that is greater then the penalty that is being sought for the charging agency. we're prohibited by law from issuing a greater penalty in the penalty that is sought here. i just think that is important for you to know. next item. >> line item four. >> do you have public comments now? >> correct. >> all right. do you notice the disconnect between all of you and the public? until the public started to speak, all of you were commending each other on everything that you have done and here is a family that is grieving. here is a community that is afraid of their own police coming to speak to you and this idea that we can't talk about what the chief of police doesn't say or the d.p.a. doesn't say, even though it is all over the press is absurd. that is why we can talk to it like the braking into the journalist's house. that just disappeared. it was all over the media. nobody says anything. all i hear is commendation. when are you going to call the police officer's association on the carpet here and tell them to stop advising their officers to say they fear for their lives, to stop saying that the d.p.a. wasn't brave like the district attorney to not press charges? when is there going to be any accountability because when police officers can kill with impunity, no matter what you train them, they know they can do it and they come within 30 seconds and kill a human being who is no threat, no threat at all. i knife next to them. many people have knives because there is no safety out there. there is no housing, there is no care. when will this change, one of the officers going to have to look in the eyes of the people, the families that are grieving, that they have killed? when there will be any restorative justice? we don't want the police in our community. we don't want to. we want to take care of ourselves. we don't want you to come and kill us. we are done with this. we don't want police at all. we don't want your guns, we don't want your beanbags, we don't want your tasers, none of this. >> public comment is now closed. next item. >> line item four has been removed. line item five, general public comment. the public his welcome to address the commission guarding items that do not appear in tonight's agenda but what are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission. they shall address the commission as a whole and not to individual personnel. they may provide a brief response to individual commissioners and police d.p.a. personnel should refrain from entering into any debates or discussion with speakers during public comments. >> general public comment although i think we have had it, but we will have more. >> i have general public comment >> chiefs got, my name is ruben david goodman. i am a retiree of the san francisco assessor's office. during my time in the assessor's office they held him to be the elected assessor. i had the pleasure of helping him give the endorsement about various democratic clubs and voluntarily drove him around his lint -- lincoln continental. i like to dedicate my reports to richard. it was my pleasure to know him. he was a real gentleman, he did not last long as chief, unfortunately, but i think the assessor would have been a very secure job with a good paycheque , but he rose to take the challenge of police chief and unfortunately that did not last. i want to give regards to his ex-wife, elizabeth colton, and his children rj and ashley. the father was a great man. my mother was muriel schapiro, born february 26, 1920 in chicago, a nice jewish girl who sang italian opera. my father settled in india. [indiscernible] they risk their lives to form the c.i.o. my uncle, may he rest in peace, was known as the chicago kid. i have a brief poem that i dedicated to the men and women at the sfpd. and in love and memory of our fallen comrades. ashes to ashes -- >> thank you. your time is up. can you submit the poem, if you would like? >> god bless the men and women of the sfpd. >> next speaker, please. >> hello, district 11. usually i am more afraid of s. of p.d. today, we've got probably a poorly vetted and undertrained deputy over there who will interact with a member of the public in that fashion. i was very offended about that. there is an order that i know you take seriously. the website, let's talk about that real quick. not surprising. we have infrastructure. it got shouted out a little early. there is the number of things. yes, it needs some quality assurance work. best thing you can do right now, it is not indexed, it is not indexed to internal or external search engines. you will do an old webpage. it will give you a 404 error. if anyone who does this that is a professional, it is the first thing you do. it is easy, it is a button. maîtres -- matrix staffing study , this will be a joke. they will come out and say, you need to bunch more. because they will compare with all of the other police departments. aren't we better than that? aren't we better-than-average? won't we figure out a way to fulfil the tasks, and get the ends that we seek as opposed to, hey, let's put more cops out there and give them every job that nobody else wants. that is not good for anybody. when they have too many of those things to do, then they are taxed -- then the tasks that do involve security and weaponry, then those are the things that they have less acumen at. i appreciate in the commissioner noting commissioner hammer's work. i thought it was well presented. i think the commissioner was baiting these sometimes back when he has commended the commissioner. and said i was president, i let her do it with the train. >> thank you. i don't thank you were being debated or any other public comments. >> good evening. how many minutes? >> two minutes. >> can you start me over? >> please. >> i would like to use the overhead. i am here concerning my son who was murdered august 14th, 2006 next month will be his anniversary, august 14th. he was shot at 3:00 p.m. in broad daylight from a semi automatic gun, 30 rounds of bullets left. i am still coming here as usual every wednesday to bring awareness to my son and other children that are dying senselessly. you just got to talking about all the other homicides that recently happened. i said last time that i was here that homicides were going to happen again because here is the summer and they are happening. three of them, one of the boys's family members are in our circle we are expecting them on this thursday coming up, the boys that were with the young boy. so we talk about families suffering. these families are suffering and we are talking about police killings. i just wish that the intention that they give to the police killings they give that same attention to the community violence, but it is not there and i don't know how to make it happen. but there is nothing i can do about it. i know that august 14th, i just want to let you guys know that my son did have a father. he was not a single son. he had two parents at home. this is what the perpetrators left me of my son. i see -- i show this because they want people to see what i am going through. here are the perpetrators and the murderers of my son. they are walking the street to kill again. what do we do? i am asking for help. >> thank you. >> you still have a quorum. line item 9 whether to disclose discussion on item 8. code section 67.12a action. >> is there a motion. >> so moved. >> second. >> is all in favor. public comment? there is no public. all in favor. opposed. i assume the motion was not to disclose. >> yes, that was my motion. >> line item 10 adjournment action item. >> all in favor. aye. >> public comment. thank you. >> we are so excited -- i am cheryl lynn adams, director of market street youth services, and we work with young people to 24 who need laundry or place to hangout or come in from outside to get the tools they need to begin to resolve their homelessness. we have lots of programs and lots of educational and behavioral health supports that are here throughout the city. we are excited to be here with our partners to launch or to be a small part of the effort to address child trafficking. larkin street started years ago with huckleberry to fight youth trafficking. we know without intervention on the streets, children are at high risk for trafficking if we don't get to them soon. i think the most wonderful thing about this partnership is the prevention and the early intervention and the collaboration and us bringing together so many partners to work on this issue in a very profound way. we're excited to be here and excited to be a small part of it. and i am always honored and delighted to get to introduce our -- our mayor. mayor breed has been in office for just about a year now, right -- tomorrow? wow. [applause] >> she has been an active supporter of homelessness, of youth homelessness, of diamond youth shelter, which is one of the -- our part in this project, and so much more in the city to support young people to help all -- to help so many of us -- so many residents in san francisco thrive, and i am deeply honored to introduce you this morning, so welcome. [applause] >> the hon. london breed: thank you. i am excited to be here. thank you, cheryl lynn, and thank you to larkin street for all the work that you continue to do to support young people in san francisco and huckaberry, i'm excited to have this organization as well as other organizations for partnering what we are announcing today, which is a $9.3 million grant from the department of social services for the state of california, which is absolutely incredible. [applause] >> the hon. london breed: this was a very competitive grant, and it was awarded to ten partnering organizations who helped to deal with the challenges that we know sadly so many of our young people face around sexual exploitation. in fact, in 2017 in san francisco, we had over 300 reported cases from young people of sexual exploitation. and in most cases, they were women of color and women from our lgbtq community. we know that just last year, cheryl lynn and the folks from larkin street, we announced the rising up campaign where we are determined and committed to end youth homelessness in san francisco, investing millions of dollars in providing the kinds of support and wraparound services that young people in order to get their lives on track. we know that all young people may not have that safety net, may not have that support. i did not have that support in my family. in fact, i was so lucky that i had a grandmother that took in my brothers and me and raised us. my grandmother was very strict, very focused, she determined to make sure she did everything she could to protect us. when young people don't have that safety net, when they don't have that support, when they don't have that protection, sadly, that's when they turn to predators and do things that they never thought they'd do. and this $9.3 million grant allows us to provide services and housing, and to track and find out what we can do better to keep this from happening in the first place. so i'm excite todd to see how is going to change the lives of so money youany young people i city. we are well on our way to addressing so many challenges that we know we face one at a time. it takes dedicated partners, it takes dedicated public servants, it takes dedicated people from the public community who care about addressing these issues, and so i want to thank each and every one of you for being here today. this is an amazing, amazing grant, and i am looking forward to the implementation and changes that i know are going to come forward as a result of this funding. thank you so much. [applause] >> the hon. london breed: and with that, i'd like to introduce the director for the commission on the status of women, emily murase. [applaus [applause] >> commissioner murase: thank you so much, mayor. i wanted to recognize the mayor for empowerment of youth and her focused commitment to housing individuals who are homeless. as you know, commercially sexually exploited children are mostly homeless. it's really one of the root causes of this problem, and now, it's my great pleasure to introduce the executive director and founder of freedom forward, alia whitney johnson and doug styles, my second grade classmate and director of huckleberry youth program. please give them a warm welcome. [applause] >> good morning. thank you, cheryl lynn for hosting us this morning, and thank you, mayor breed and commissioner murase for the work that you do on behalf of young people in our community. i realize that commercial sexual exploitation is a story of failures. times that we have failed to meet young people's needs, and these young people have taken their needs into their own hands. times to fail to respond with compassion when they needed us has added to their story. but within this story is a story of incredible youth brilliances, a story of navigating the system, a hustle that is purposely resourceful, resilient. knowledge that is absolutely critical if we want to build a vibrant, healthy system that works for all. these are the voices that we are centering in this continuum. they deserve choices, and they deserve a system that works for them and a voice in what that system should be. by ensuring young people are a part of our design process, and that we build in feedback loops to honor their input, we believe we will build a more effective system of care for all. so what is this collaborative that we're building and here today to announce? through this grant, we're bringing together 11 community partners to develop a continuum of services that we hope will meet youth where they are, recognizing that meaningful change is rarely linear and needs to meet youth when they are ready. this continuum includes five major components as well as a protocol for navigating those components and a rigorous evaluation. we hope to openly share our successes learned, and if effective, to replicate what works across the state. the five components of this continuum include first, a drop-in center where youth will be able to access services under one roof whether or not they identify as being exploited or currently being housed in the continuum. second, a launch pad shelter for youth transitioning from life on the streets or unsafe living situations. third, a short-term residential treatment program. fourth, a new model of family-based foster care right here in their community with wraparound support. and finally, 24-7 response and emergency services. family first will be leading the foster and family services. we a our role will be to facilitate and coordinate services from across our community, bringing the best our community has to offer, remaining accountable to what youth want. in early 2020, we also aim to launch our family-based foster care pilot. as many of you in this room now, problems in foster care often lead teams to being moved around -- teens to being moved around, isolated, surrounded by only professionals, far from loved ones and the people who they care most about. all of this instability and lock of connection makes an environment that's ripe for exploitation. we plan to pilot a new model of foster care that will provide stable family homes right here in their community and will wrap youth and families with both the professional support that they need as well as a real emphasis on the relationship with family and friends that youth want in their lives. this pilot will engage a great team of providers in what they do best, including family builders, west coast children's clinic, huckleberry youth programs, and this pilot will also include additional caregivers, who provide what grandmas do, like what mayor breed talked about, so often, aunties and grandmas show up to support our youth. as i step back and think about building a community where every young person can experience all that it means to be free, i want to end today with a quote from a young person who grew up right here in san francisco and was interviewed by our friends at the elements freedom center. she said, freedom is when we reach back and pull the next sibling with us because we see your brilliance, and we know that you will shine when surrounded by real love. let us pull each other with us, and let us all move forward with love as we move forward. thank you very much, and it is my pleasure to introduce doug styles, the executive director of huckleberry youth program [applause] >> thank you, alia. thank you, mayor breed. thank you, my classmate, emily. thank you to larkin for hosting this fabulous event. it's an incredible group of people for this collaboration that's been brought together. what we need to start with is that trafficking, sexual exploitation happens here in san francisco. these are our children. it is a systems issue, not an individual issue. no one chooses to be exploited. trafficking and exploitation inhibit the entire community from thriving. that's why we've all come together to change the trajectory of lives of young people affected by trafficking and exploitation and to prevent others from becoming more deeply involved. in 1967, huckleberry youth programs established the first youth shelter for run aways in the country, addressing reasons why people found themselves on the streets of san francisco. unfortunately, our 52 years of experience, we have seen too many young people commercially sexually exploited and too many young people at risk of human trafficking. but every day, we also experience the resiliency of young people. this project is an attempt to bring together various experts from various fields to provide the needed supports for young people to heal and to provide the chance and the necessary tools to reduce the risk of further exploitation. as one of the partners in this project, huckleberry youth programs will provide case manager and mental health support to divert young people to a safe and healthier life. our experience, working with adolescents in challenging situations, whether it's mental health counseling, juvenile court diversion, we know that young people thrive when they direct their own future. our process is to listen to each youth, hear their hopes and dreams, regardless of their current situation, to traem thtraem -- treat them as human beings and become a catalyst for changes. huckleberry youth services will be part of the crisis team to provide services to young people when are they need it the most. we'll be able to work with young people to maintain their current living situation, and for those with less permanent housing, a placement coordinator will help determine a safe living environment for their future. we will provide residential counseling staff. finally, if emergency shelter is needed, huckleberry house will provide temporary safe home environment. as a native san franciscan myself, raising my daughters in this city, i am very proud to see this collaboration come together and very excited to work with this incredible group of people. i look forward to a future where we no longer need these services or these programs. when all of our children are safe, healthy, treated justly, and are well educated. but we have a lot of work to get there. by working together with the support from the california department of social services, i believe we can build a stronger community. thank you. [applause] >> thank you so much, doug and alia. in closing, i want to introduce the san francisco continuum team, the department of the status of women, just give a wave. huckleberry, youth and family services, family builders, west coast children's clinic, edgewood center for children and families, claire's house, learning for action, berkeley human rights center, and of course larkin street youth services. [applause] >> finally, i want to give a shoutout to the mayor's office of human tracking. through these bodies, san francisco has odd voe indicated for critical services. through this grant, we're going to be tackling homeless service and housing options. i want to thank the housing advisory board and youth advisory committee for putting this all together. thank you for joining us. [applause] francisco. >> my name is fwlend hope i would say on at large-scale what all passionate about is peace in the world. >> it never outdoor 0 me that note everyone will think that is a good i know to be a paefrt. >> one man said i'll upsetting the order of universe i want to do since a good idea not the order of universe but his offered of the universe but the ministry sgan in the room chairing sha harry and grew to be 5 we wanted to preach and teach and act god's love 40 years later i retired having been in the tenderloin most of that 7, 8, 9 some have god drew us into the someplace we became the network ministries for homeless women escaping prostitution if the months period before i performed memorial services store produced women that were murdered on the streets of san francisco so i went back to the board and said we say to do something the number one be a safe place for them to live while he worked on changing 4 months later we were given the building in january of 1998 we opened it as a safe house for women escaping prostitution i've seen those counselors women find their strength and their beauty and their wisdom and come to be able to affirmative as the daughters of god and they accepted me and made me, be a part of the their lives. >> special things to the women that offered me a chance safe house will forever be a part of the who i've become and you made that possible life didn't get any better than that. >> who've would know this look of this girl grown up in atlanta will be working with produced women in san francisco part of the system that has abused and expedited and obtain identified and degraded women for century around the world and still do at the embody the spirits of women that just know they deserve respect and intend to get it. >> i don't want to just so women younger women become a part of the the current system we need to change the system we don't need to go up the ladder we need to change the corporations we need more women like that and they're out there. >> we get have to get to help them. >> >> this is one place you can always count on to give you what you had before and remind you of what your san francisco history used to be. >> we hear that all the time, people bring their kids here and their grandparents brought them here and down the line. >> even though people move away, whenever they come back to the city, they make it here. and they tell us that. >> you're going to get something made fresh, made by hand and made with quality products and something that's very, very good. ♪ >> the legacy bars and restaurants was something that was begun by san francisco simply to recognize and draw attention to the establishments. it really provides for san francisco's unique character. ♪ >> and that morphed into a request that we work with the city to develop a legacy business registration. >> i'm michael cirocco and the owner of an area bakery. ♪ the bakery started in 191. my grandfather came over from italy and opened it up then. it is a small operation. it's not big. so everything is kind of quality that way. so i see every piece and cut every piece that comes in and out of that oven. >> i'm leslie cirocco-mitchell, a fourth generation baker here with my family. ♪ so we get up pretty early in the morning. i usually start baking around 5:00. and then you just start doing rounds of dough. loaves. >> my mom and sister basically handle the front and then i have my nephew james helps and then my two daughters and my wife come in and we actually do the baking. after that, my mom and my sister stay and sell the product, retail it. ♪ you know, i don't really think about it. but then when i -- sometimes when i go places and i look and see places put up, oh this is our 50th anniversary and everything and we've been over 100 and that is when it kind of hits me. you know, that geez, we've been here a long time. [applause] ♪ >> a lot of people might ask why our legacy business is important. we all have our own stories to tell about our ancestry. our lineage and i'll use one example of tommy's joint. tommy's joint is a place that my husband went to as a child and he's a fourth generation san franciscan. it's a place we can still go to today with our children or grandchildren and share the stories of what was san francisco like back in the 1950s. >> i'm the general manager at tommy's joint. people mostly recognize tommy's joint for its murals on the outside of the building. very bright blue. you drive down and see what it is. they know the building. tommy's is a san francisco hoffa, which is a german-style presenting food. we have five different carved meats and we carve it by hand at the station. you prefer it to be carved whether you like your brisket fatty or want it lean. you want your pastrami to be very lean. you can say i want that piece of corn beef and want it cut, you know, very thick and i want it with some sauerkraut. tell the guys how you want to prepare it and they will do it right in front of you. san francisco's a place that's changing restaurants, except for tommy's joint. tommy's joint has been the same since it opened and that is important. san francisco in general that we don't lose a grip of what san francisco's came from. tommy's is a place that you'll always recognize whenever you lock in the door. you'll see the same staff, the same bartender and have the same meal and that is great. that's important. ♪ >> the service that san francisco heritage offers to the legacy businesses is to help them with that application process, to make sure that they really recognize about them what it is that makes them so special here in san francisco. ♪ so we'll help them with that application process if, in fact, the board of supervisors does recognize them as a legacy business, then that does entitle them to certain financial benefits from the city of san francisco. but i say really, more importantly, it really brings them public recognition that this is a business in san francisco that has history and that is unique to san francisco. >> it started in june of 1953. ♪ and we make everything from scratch. everything. we started a you -- we started a off with 12 flavors and mango fruits from the philippines and then started trying them one by one and the family had a whole new clientele. the business really boomed after that. >> i think that the flavors we make reflect the diversity of san francisco. we were really surprised about the legacy project but we were thrilled to be a part of it. businesses come and go in the city. pretty tough for businesss to stay here because it is so expensive and there's so much competition. so for us who have been here all these years and still be popular and to be recognized by the city has been really a huge honor. >> we got a phone call from a woman who was 91 and she wanted to know if the mitchells still owned it and she was so happy that we were still involved, still the owners. she was our customer in 1953. and she still comes in. but she was just making sure that we were still around and it just makes us feel, you know, very proud that we're carrying on our father's legacy. and that we mean so much to so many people. ♪ >> it provides a perspective. and i think if you only looked at it in the here and now, you're missing the context. for me, legacy businesses, legacy bars and restaurants are really about setting the context for how we come to be where we are today. >> i just think it's part of san francisco. people like to see familiar stuff. at least i know i do. >> in the 1950s, you could see a picture of tommy's joint and looks exactly the same. we haven't change add thing. >> i remember one lady saying, you know, i've been eating this ice cream since before i was born. and i thought, wow! we have, too. ♪begin? good morning. today is wednesday, july 17th, 2019. this is a regular meeting of the abatement appeals board. i would to remind everyone to please turn off electronic devices. the first item on the agenda is roll call. president, >> here. >> vice president lee? >> here. >> commissioner clinch? >> here. contribution commissioner mccarthy? >> here. >> commissioner walker? >> here. >> commissioner konstin is excused. next item, b, is the oath. will all parties giving testimony today please stand and raise your right hand. do you swear the testimony you're about to give is the truth to the best of your knowledge? >> yes. >> thank you. you may be seated.

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