Chair fewer sheriff, i just want to say, i think this committee has heard that. I think this committee, as you know, has heard that and recognized that, and that is not what im talking about. I didnt know about this 232,000 that youre giving back. Could you please explain and mr. B. L. A. , were you aware of that . Well, thats what they recommended. If theres an alternative proposal that the department is presenting, wed be happy to take a look. Chair fewer okay. Mr. Holling . If we were given a dollar amount by the b. L. A. , wed be happy to identify 250,000 to give back. We dont think cutting back the civilianization is the way to do it. Its the qualitative aspect of these services, not the dollar amount. Were happy to work with the b. L. A. To identify 250,000. Chair fewer that is very good to know, mr. Holling. So confer with the b. L. A. , and im wondering if youre willing to come back after conferring with the b. L. A. Well take a break after lunch. I think the thing about the dollar amount, we are hearing you. We have heard from years, we have heard from your deputy sheriffs how they resent you making them work mandatory overtime, and taking time away from their families. My husband was in Law Enforcement for 35 years, but i want to say we have heard you, and we applaud the fact that you requested a controllers report on staffing and you are trying to follow the recommendations. What we dont applaud, quite frankly is unwillingness or perceived unwillingness to find any funding savings within. So i think the disagreement is ideology, not monetary, and that we can come to this is the budget and finance committee, so if you can confer with the b. L. A. On this, i think that we might be able to come to an agreement today, and i definitely think that this committee hopes so. So if you wouldnt mind if you have a time constraint, we hate for you to have to come back tomorrow. Actually, wed like to get it done today. If you can do that, that will be great, and well hold our other committees i mean, departments ahead of you. And if you can work that out, and i hope you can, well get that settled today. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. Well do that. Well do that. Chair fewer okay. So lets hear from Public Health now. Good afternoon, chair fewer and supervisors. Grant colfax, department of Public Health. We are in alignment with the b. L. A. And their recommendations. Wed like to thank kristina and severin for their hard work on our collaboration and we are in agreement with the recommendations. Chair fewer thank you, dr. Colfax. In fact, lets hear first from the b. L. A. Thank you, madam chair. The departments proposed budget for fiscal year 201920 is 52,875,813 or 2. 2 more than the fiscal year 1819 budget of 2,369,898,228. The departments proposed 2,228,448,000 is. 1 less than the mayors proposed fiscal year 2019 budget. Our recommended reductions to the proposed budget total 3,822,052 in recommended reductions. 2,034,833 are ongoing savings. This would still allow an increase of 2. 1 in the departments fiscal 1920 budget. Of the 2,063,364 in recommended reductions, 50,000 are one time savings, as you just heard from the department, we are in full agreement. [inaudible] supervisor ronen yes. I just wanted to thank everyone from the department for getting me all that data. I know there is one outstanding thing, but i just wanted to say i appreciate it. Thank you. Chair fewer thank you, supervisor ronen. We do have one item, which is item 5, which is an expend. Madam clerk, would you please call item 5. [agenda item read]. Chair fewer thank you very much. Dr. Colfax, would you like to comment on that . Yes. Ill have greg wagner, our chief Financial Officer comment on this. Item number 5 is an item that you see each year for the budget submission with the department of Public Health. This is a set of grants that we receive from the state on an ongoing basis. As part of the conditions for those grants, were required to have approval by this board either under our local laws or requirements of the state and rather than bring those individually to you through the accept and expend process which is coumbersome and since these are repeating and recurring grants, we bring them to you in a single resolution at the budget period and ask for your approval to accept those funds. They are aproeptpropriated in proposed budget. Chair fewer all right. Well open this up for Public Comment. Mr. Wright, do you have any Public Comment on item 5 . You know, i object to the services thats been applied by department of Public Health. Youre getting all this money to serve people with a kbip combination of physical and mental disabilities, and theyre homeless. Youre making appointments to see people out sleeping in sleeping bags, and you make an appointment to come back out to the same time location expecting to see them and provide them with services, and then youre in the newspaper how youve got a shortage of beds. Says it right here, and then, the amount of beds that you provide is less than 2,000, okay . Youve got mental professionals saying the best way to provide services with people with disabilities and mental disabilities is to provide them with permanent housing. The amount that youre spending on calling yourselves treating people with mental disabilities should be spent on providing permanent housing and then you can provide the treatment thats needed that youre being paid for because the persons the people that youre helping have permanent housing and you know where theyre located instead of running around the city like a chicken with its head cutoff. Youve got approximately 8,011 Homeless People out on the street right now, and youre supposed to be providing Mental Services for them. How are you going to serve them when theyre out on the streets . And by the same response, your shelter system is outrageous. Heres a person right here thats got nowhere to go, got a mental disability and nowhere to go, and the police is moving their property when theyre living out in the tent. The shelters are overcrowded, dont have nowhere to go, and the population has swelled up 17 . Los angeles has swelled up 16 , and the police are getting infected by diseases thats supposed to have been way in the 1800s thats now populated because of the homeless. Chair fewer thank you, mr. Wright. Any other Public Comment . In conjunction with the increase in attorney employment with review and analysis of prior judicial determination and response to the changing legal environment, will you consider Youth Mental Health counseling as an adjunct priority . Ive spoken with several deportees abroad who have spent time in u. S. Prison prior to deportation. These individuals shared a common story. They were a passenger in a vehicle, they were unaware that drugs were present. Their charges in sentencing, simply explaining their circumstances took the edge off the conversation in each incident. I think psychological counseling or talk therapy for young people might save these cities significant funds and direct these youth downed the correct track. A brief word on implicit bias. Theres an interesting technique i discovered to ameliorate it. Simply imagining the individual going about this lives on a daily basis, conscious psychological transposition or playing with metacognition. Ive heard some of the material in socio linguistics as well as government funded texts on methamphetamine entitled the physiology of emotion. They dealt with the principal in this attribution of error and psychological chemistry, so thats what im drawing on. Chair fewer thank you very much. Any other Public Comment . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. [inaudible] chair fewer sorry. I would like to make a motion to the full Board Meeting of july 16 with a positive recommendation. Can i have a second . President yee, thank you very much. And drwell take that without objection. Dr. Kcolfax, thank you for beig in agreement with the recommendations. And mr. Controller, will you note that it is the intent of this committee to accept the proposals and report of the b. L. A. Chair fewer Human Services, would you come up . Human services. So can we have a b. L. A. Report, please. Yes, you may. The departments proposed 1,039,024,619 for fiscal year 1920 is 6. 9 more than the original fiscal year 201819 budget of 971,834,727. The departments proposed 1,062,899,769 budget for fiscal year 2021 is 23,875,152,or 2. 3 more than the mayors proposed fiscal 1920 budget of 1,039,024,617. Our recommended reductions to the proposed budget total 1,977,272 in fiscal year 201920. Of that recommended reductions, 333,219 are ongoing savings, and 1,064,033 are one time savings. This would allow a 6. 7 increase in the departments fiscal year 201920 budget. My understanding is that we have full agreement with the department on our recommendations. Chair fewer mr. Rohrer, what do you say . Trent rohrer, we are in full agreement. Chair fewer mr. Controller, can you please note it is the intention of this committee to accept the agreements between the b. L. A. And this department. Thank you very much. And i believe our sheriff is ready to come back. Sheriff hennesey, and we wouldnt mind mr. Hollings. Crispin hollings. Im glad to report we have agreed to cuts of 250,000 reduction to the budget. I am proud to report that we are in agreement to the 250,000 cut to the service line. Chair fewer thank you. Are we still in agreement with the positions, now . I believe this replaces the positions. Chair fewer okay. Thank you for taking a second look at that. I greatly appreciate it. So mr. Controller, can you please note it is the intention of this committee to accept the recommendations set forth in the agreements set forth between the b. L. A. And also this department. We will, madam clerk, and we understand this to be 250,000 in each of the two years of the budget. Chair fewer is that correct, mr. Hollins . [inaudible] chair fewer okay. And thank you very much. And thanks to the sheriff. Thank you very much. All right. I am going to make a suggestion, that we will now break for lunch oh, can you come back . Yeah, you can. That we take a little break for lunch and also some bioneeds, and so i would ask that we reconvene this committee at 1 15 and i ask that we be prompt because we have several departments coming before us. I see we have several departments before us. Chief, my apologies, but any way, i think we could all appreciate a little break. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Welcome back. Were reconvening the budget and finance committee of june 20, 2019, and we are hearing the Department Budgets and next we have jeff gaziski, the homeless and Supportive Housing department. Mr. B. L. A. , can we have a report please. Clerk item number six to go with this item. Supervisor fewer please read item 6. Clerk the year 2019 life 2020, and 20202021 expenditure plan for the department of homelessness and Supportive Housing fund. So lets tackle item number six before the budget. Mr. Gazinsky would you like to address item number six. Im have our director of finance and administration address the board on this matter. Thank you very much. Thank you, members. Its required under the admin code for the board of supervisors to approve the expenditure plan for the homelessness and the Supportive Housing fund and this is revenue that we received from the Human Services agencies to support the clients on county assistance and permanent Supportive Housing. And the resolution before you supports 1,300 units and permanent Supportive Housing along with Supportive Services and Money Management services and the care fund is growing in the budget because the h. S. H. Fund is getting a cost of doing business increase but as you can see about 1 million in discretionary general Funding Sources still go into this fund to support the total cost of the program. Happy to answer any questions that you may have. Thank you very much. Any comments or questions from my colleagues . Mr. Haney . Thank you, chair fewer. And i can ask about general things . This is about item number 6. We are going to be discussing the budget after the Committee Takes a vote on this. Okay, thank you very much. And seeing no comment from my colleagues lets open this up for Public Comment. Mr. Wright . Thats pretty good, 1,300 permanent housing units. I hope that youre talking about the complexes and not Navigation Centers, because theres not enough to support all of the people of the Homeless Population of 8,011 people from the latest census count and heres an example where no one has a place to go. After police moved their encampment. Heres another example of the Homeless Count by the Census Bureau and as you can see it constantly increases. And its up by 17 . And by the same response, heres another example on how after 60 days that the people who are in the Navigation Center get put back on the street and another example why i believe that we need permanent housing, period. Instead of temporariness. And by the same response we had two hearings this week where the management and the upper level divisions made reference to the Development Agency and the rules and regulations that benefit the high income brackets but rules and regulation from the same book of law pertaining to lowincome, they never incorporate. This one here report 15 is supposed to be low income and every Apartment Building that comes out of the Mayors Office on office, if it was supplied like it was supposed to at mission rock, 1,500 units and 225 of those units would be for very low and lowincome bracket and moderate income bracket. People with the population out on the streets. And moreover theres a shortfall and you keep taking care of business like this. Youre wasting money. You keep doing like youre doing and its already been projected that youll be 643. 9 milliondollars in debt over a fiveyear period. And as a result my next demonstration, incorporate my 27story twin towers to put the finishing touches im sorry, mr. Wright, your time is up. Thank you very much, any other members of the public. Seeing none, Public Comment is closed and i move item 6 of the positive recommendation to the full Board Meeting of july 16th. And supervisor mandelman, seconded. Without objection. Done. Mr. B. L. A. Now, please give us a report on the homelessness and Supportive Housing department. please stand by . All of which are onetime. We also have recommended reductions to the fiscal 202021 budget, all of those, 795,000 are onetime. The changes from the report that was sent out on tuesday versus what has been revised, recommendation no. 2 has been reduced by 8,830 due to a clerical error, and recommendation no. 5 and recommendation no. 6 were originally not marked as onetime, and those should have been marked as onetime. That was a clerical error on our part. My understanding is that the department is with our recommendations. Supervisors are in full agreement with the blas recommendations. Can you please note that its the intent of this committee to set the agreements between the bla and the department. Supervisor haney, did you have a question . Supervisor haney yes, supervisor fewer, a couple quick questions. What is the support of housing and how we make sure that within the budget were keeping the units affordable, especially for people that are living in sros . I often hear from my residents that from my constituents, that they are paying over 50 of their income in rent and some of the master lease sros. Are you analyzing that, or are there ways that youre ensuring that we arent basically taking all of the very little money that people have and sort of forcing them to not have funds for other basic necessities . Well, some of the way that the Supportive Housing works was decided by the care not cash legislation, i believe proposition n, which has a different formula to calculate how much income people pay to rent. We did inherit some housing from the department of Public Health in which residents are paying 50 of their income to rent. Weve been fixing that incrementally. Most recently swapping out funding using section 8 vouchers rather than local funding in which its mandated by law tenants pay 30 of the income to rent, and all of the new housing weve brought onboard since we started as a department in 2016, tenants pay 30 of their income to rent, and that is our plans moving forward with new housing, that we remain at the 30 level. Supervisor haney and when you say were fixing that incrementally, is there sort of a plan, or are there any investments in this budget, or how exactly are we dealing with the issue of the many people, i guess, in buildings that youve inherited and with the care not cash that are paying over 50 . The care not cash question, we would have to get that hsa to have that discussion about the formula around how rent operates through the care funds. And that is approximately half of the units in which tenants are paying more than 30 of their income to rent. For the department of homelessness and Supportive Housing, the general fund units in which tenants pay more than 30 of their income to rent are approximately 1,000 units. In order to fix that, it would cost the city at least 4 million a year in general fund dollars moving forward, raising, you know, incrementally over time as costs go up. We dont currently weve been working w