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belongs to the people, and you told the h.s.h. that you've got to have the support of the community behind you if you're going to make it successful. the community is still divided on this proposal, and the city has not engaged in good faith with all of us and does not have the support of surrounding residents. my own experience i was shouted out of speaking at the last two events. commissioner w commissioner wu ho, you stated that we need to sochl the issues in the lease. commissioner gilman, with your 25-year career focused on public policy on homelessness, your person proposal clouds your fiduciary position on the port. due to your conflicts of interest, please abstain from voting on this proposal. commissioner makras, you would lease this lot to the city for free or for $1 which calls into question your fiduciary role on behalf of the port. b but -- president brandon encouraged us to have an open mind, listen, and get educated. over the last seven weeks, this community has repeatedly listened to the city's educational narrative, and it has been a one-way dialogue. i ask you to extent the vote to a later date once the city has had more time to engage the community. >> thank you, christie. >> i'm james, a resident of 200 brannan. i live in the community, but i was going to give up my time to speak, but i was just called a racist, elitist, because i don't want this in my neighborhood. i don't think not wanting something like this in my back yard does not make me a bigot, a racist. i would ask the people supporting this project to raise your hand if you're a racist or a bigot. yeah, i didn't think so. i see a lot of poor choice of language from the yimby and the pink signs being held up. i see their heads shaking any time someone has a valid concern being brought up to this commission. i think there's a lot of intellectual dishonesty going on in these meetings. i would ask the port commission to delay their vote to engage the community more. we're seeing progress already, the revisions to the plans. there's a little bit of traction there, and i ask the commission, everyone to delay that vote to engage more of the community on this until we all get to an agreement not on the perfect plan because we know it's not going to exist, but a better plan that the community has a voice in. >> hello. my name is diana drew, and i'm a resident at the brannan, and i'm going to change my hat and put myself in your positions as port commissioners. earlier, i believe a gentleman who was your chief operating officer had mentioned some numbers, and i thought wow, there's a cruise line that's increasing the number of passengers from 240,000 a year to 250,000 a year. wow. on may 7, there's a ship coming in for an anniversary of some sort. 3,000 passengers on that ship. i took a look on the port website before i got up here, and i noticed for the entire rest of the year, you've got about 64 ships planned on docking and coming in. earlier, i heard mention of 500-plus tenants that you work with, and i'm thinking wow. i think you guys need to delay the vote so you have time to do your due diligence and find out how it will impact your clients and your tenants and what you want to do with the port for san francisco. this will also give the mayor the time, unbeknownst to her that she needs to do her due diligence and get the proper feedback and maybe do things a little differently and maybe not thinking about things where she's achieving her campaign agenda, stepping back and saying hey, i'm a mayor for all san franciscans as she said in her inaugural speech. i would like her to treat us like she will treat all citizens as she said in her speech. thank you. >> thank you. our next three speakers are jean, angela, and katey. >> hello. my name is jean brian. let me state the blind obvious to me, let's start with commonalities. safe, safer, safest. we all want a safe san francisco. in terms of the homeless problem, we all know there's a problem. in terms of the models, as far as i'm concerned, as far as a lot of residents who have investigated this, talking to people from the navigation centers, it's an experiment that you're trying to escape up. in terms of location, talk about welcoming? let's talk about the score board just to get it on the record again. homeless services score board. district six shelters, shelter beds, 65% in san francisco. permanent housing, 73%. district two where mark bennioff, salesforce, 0%. district six. 2.9% in shelter beds, permanent housing, .3%. district five, jeff lawson, 10.1% in shelter beds and permanent housing, 3.3%. we care about the homeless. we have put our efforts in and actually have enough in our district six. it is a citywide problem. let me just remind the crowd, if -- and i'm sure you all know, your mission statement of the port. the port of san francisco manages the waterfront as a gateway to a world class city and advances in environmental sustainable maritime, reccal and economic opportunities to serve the city, the bay area, and california. you are failing in that if you don't get an r.f.p. to get that land use that is economically feasible and enhances the beauty and what you've stated in your mission is your responsibility to the city of san francisco. to recruit homeless that have issued into that area is not responsible. >> thank you, jean. thank you. >> my name is angela jenkins, and i'm a south beach resident. i've also been living and working in the area for about 30 years, and i hear a lot of statements, and i've actually had cordial conversations with people who may not be for the navigation center. let me state right away that i believe the navigation center is fine. i heard statements that speak about what we do. i've lived, as i said, about 20 years in south beach. i have yet to be able to use a parking space at the brannan because i've been racially priefld, securi profiled, security called on me three different times. it's deeded to me, but i stopped going. the security have called me, citizens who are vigilantes have stopped me from going into something deeded to my property. i've been parts of neighborhood associations and suggest that we look at racial profiling, suggest that we be more concluesive, only to be told in a written letter, i'm not a part of that association even though i've been there five years. so when you speak and say "we," do not include me. i have met and worked in that south beach mission way so many things. i am a person who can say if i feel racially profiled, if i feel racism. if you're not in color, please don't try to describe what that is like when someone is a racist. thank you. >> thank you. miss katey lidell. >> good afternoon, commissioners. my name is katey lidell, and i am the cochair of the central waterfront advisory group along with topi levine. i don't know if you've had a chance to read our letter yet. our letter reflects a variety of opinions. we had a meeting last week, and our opinions were all over the map. there was no consensus so we cannot come and recommend anything to you. but we had a great meeting. it was very civil. we are all over the map. as chris, one of our members said, corrine would be proud of us. we did a really good job. the things we would like to point out and focus on are first, the thorough vetting of the m.o.u., the good neighbor policy, and the lease. these documents must be very detailed and vetted with the port and the neighbors until every detail is ironed out and agreed upon, we ask that you refrain from voting. secondly, is the design inside and outside. we want to ensure the inside promotes comfort, healing, and learning for its residents, and the outside must be pleasing and acceptable to the neighbors. third, we were not happy with the pay this -- way this project was rolled out. too fast, with very little outreach. this needs to be a lesson learned with future navigation centers. and lastly, we strongly encourage the port to issue an r.f.p. for this site in order to properly plan for its future. and speaking just for myself, i will tell you that a lot of the controversy could be scaled back considerably if the plans for the center were downsized. the fact that this has been billed as the largest first of a kind navigation center has a lot of us very worried. the various city agencies are already overloaded with problems, and we just don't think such a large facility will be in their band width. thank you. >> thanks, katey. martha, d.j., and jim. >> well, commissioners, thank you for hearing us. my name's martha branigan. i've been volunteering for a little while for the coalition on homelessness. but i'm speaking for myself. i have been living south of market for 20 years. i live in western south of market which has kept a little bit more of the live and let live spirit, since the south market for the people who are a little different. in western south of market, i live around the corner from the episcopal sanctuary, and certainly, i don't think it's unsafe to live near a shelter. but i just want to say as a resident of south of market, i've heard some comments about who lives here, who's an out of towner. i just want to say we are all guests of the dead south of market. enough people have died south of market because they were homeless, because they were addicted and not receiving treatment, because they were in trouble in some way, acting differently, because they were gay, because they were immigran immigrants or because they were the wrong type of san francisco native. because they were a working people in a working waterfront trying to get a living wage. we are south of market here, and south of market has always been the place were people were not thought not important enough. this has been always the place that was too valuable for poor people to park on, as mr. hermann put it. you know, now that the land has become valuable, it's just so tragic to see that now, south of market is too important for poor people to be south of market. a little less hate, please. thanks. >> thank you. thank you. thank you. >> good afternoon, port commissioners, port director. my name is d.j. sigmund. i'm in favor of the proposed navigation center on the embarcadero. i believe they provide dock pattate care and services to one of the city's most vulnerable populations. navigation centers are but one tool in the box and while they may not help everyone, they help some and to see that's worth the investment. it's time to stop criminalizing trauma and stop helping people. please vote yes on this m.o.u. thank you. >> thank you. >> hi there. good afternoon. my name's jim greer. i've been living in san francisco for nearly 20 years. i have two children year, and a number of people have spoken about the crisis of people living on our streets that are suffering and dieing. obviously, that is the priority issue. we have a moral imperative to do everything we can for them. i want to take a moment to talk a little bit about the quality of life of the rest of san francisco and to the many visitors here. building beds and providing services is the first step to addressing homeless encampments. it's the first step to addressing people in crisis and shouting frighteningly on the street. it's certainly the first step to cleanliness and many quality of life crimes. we can't help these people if they're sleeping in tents on the streets and so getting them into supportive housing is the ultimate step but getting them to a navigation center is the way we get to that. there's no perfect place for a center like this. there's no perfect design for a center like this, but i ask the commission to not let the perfect be the enemy of the good and to please do the right thing and the compassionate thing for everyone in the city whether they have a roof over their heads and a bed and a good meal every night. thank you. >> thank you. sheela. >> i spoke. >> you already spoke? i have two cards. thank you. max e-h-e-n-i-s? poppy? is there a max ehenis, e-h-e-n-i-s? and then, a poppy allen? okay. max, kelley, and m-c-a-u-a-n, human dignity. please come on up. >> hello, folks. my name is armando. i'm with the coalition on homelessness. i've written down a lot of things that i could present here today, and as i've been sitting here, my head's been spinning, and it's been a little emotional because i can't really wrap my head around the otherizing and the exclusion and the misinformation about who the homeless population is, how serious the emergency in the city actually is with thousands of people on the streets. a safe center with 200 beds may not be much compared to the thousands on the streets, but it's something. you know, i feel this way because i have a friend who was a veteran who was homeless and now is happy with a family. i have another person that i know who was a homeless firefighter. these people are not noncontributing citizens, they're not criminals. they're san franciscans, just like anybody here. many of them have lived here a long time, and they don't deserve for -- they deserve to share in the success of this city. some of the other things i wanted to say is i'm aware of a lot of the land that the port manages is in the public interest. and given that we have an emergency right now, that homelessness is a public emergency, i want you to strongly consider that the best use of this land in the public interest may actually be to put a safe center on it. i also want you to think twice when you're considering land use policies, the policies that we have on that. there's been a long history in this country in the bureaucratic land use policies are used against people. homelessness is an issue that affects the entire city, if not the bay area. it's the larger problem. that's all i wanted to say. >> thanks, armando. >> hi. my name's kelly cutler, and i'm an organizer at the coalition for homelessness. i don't know what i want to say today. i've been sitting in the back row, and it's really hard to keep my mouth shut and keep my comments to myself when someone talks about someone dieing and signs go up. this is sad. that's really sad, and that's where we're -- i just really want the discussion to be about -- that we're talking about human beings and that, you know, the most marginalized people in our community. we have a duty to come together as san franciscans and helping to care and to do something, and this is something that we can do; and so yeah. this is a challenging one, and it's just sad. so let's push this one through 'cause we need more shelter. >> chris, michael, and stephen. >> stephen. i'd like to submit this petition to right size and relocation the navigation center. it certainly has over 2600 signatures for people that oppose the current plan. i'd like to take a moment to say that people that signed this, there's nowhere in this petition that says they oppose helping the homeless. there's nowhere in this petition that says they want to be racist. what it does say is we can come up with a better plan, and what i'm asking the commission to do is defer the vote because the mayor's office has made some progress in my personal opinion, but we still have work to do. we can craft a better plan for a navigation center in our neighborhood that will support the waterfront homeless. we have things that still need to be worked out, like metrics for performance and scaleability of the navigation center. supervisor haney and director forbes agreed to responsibility, and that hasn't been worked out yet. this will make it a better plan, and it will make it a plan that the community can get behind. and i think that's what it's about because we do want to help the homeless, and we need to find a plan that everybody agrees is a great plan. thank you. >> okay. >> it's really important to remember we cannot keep saying no when we're working toward fixing problems because all it does is stay where we are. what is it we're giving up to help people who really need it? a space, a lot that has a beginning and an end, and the help is huge. we have a chance and an opportunity to intercede in the livings of other human beings who need this. i'll take the chance, and i have. i live in the mission district. san francisco is changing. let's move it toward good. being good and doing good, because that's what san francisco is. and one of my favorite quotes is we are all just walking each other home. thank you. >> thank you. >> chair adams, i just want to recognize that the district supervisor has just arrived, supervisor matt haney. nice to see you, sir. >> supervisor haney. >> hi. my name is sam wagner. for clarification purposes, i'm not a hater, a bigot, a racist or an elitist. i'm a compassionate person, and i have a homeless family member, and a clollege friend s homeless. critical thinking without analysis will not solve a problem, it will make it worse. currently, the city and the h.s.h. failed to meet the commitments of the navigation centers daily. if the city and the h.s.h. cannot successfully manage the navigation centers currently, if they cannot fulfill the policy at a 70-bed facility, how can we expect them to do this at a navigation center that's two to three size of the centers of their current failures. how can you trust them with the land that you're responsible for? i'm willing to have an open mind, but i stug will to support a program with a 54% failure rate. less than one in six homeless land in supportive housing. how poorly would the navigation centers have to perform before someone starts to ask questions. instead of raising the number of beds, perhaps questions could be asked to improve services in the navigation centers could be asked. require them to improve the model before allowing them to super size them. what would it take for the navigation center rates to improve their failure from 54% to 40% to 30%? improving the services and reducing the failure rate will do more to help the homeless than blindly throwing more beds at them. in 2016, the san francisco controller agreed with this. we ask that you require the h.s.h. and city to engage with our community and find a mutually beneficial solution. >> thank you very much. supervisor haney, would you like a special point of privilege? no. okay. you want to keep hearing from the community? okay. thank you. dave, chris, and bob. >> hi. i'm dave. i have never been to a meeting like this. i hate public speaking, don't do any of this. i'm a native san franciscan. i'm going to be 50 this year, and i live right across the street from the port site, and i work four blocks from this site. i work at a business that's open to the public. i have been hit and spit on several times by homeless people. i've gone to court to get restraining orders, and they still came back to the business and still do the same thing. i respect and i appreciate the police department. i know they're overworked. if you try call 911, it takes sometime to get there because there's so much stuff going on in the city. now, i'm not against homeless. i've met with the sheriff's of san francisco about two to three years ago to work with the homeless situation. and when talking with her, we talked about a couple issues we had in san francisco. one is we only have one psych ward in the hospitals, and that's at general hospital. we need more psych wards to take care of these problems. two, if somebody gets arrested and goes to court, and they say yes i will go to a rehab or a center, we don't have enough in san francisco because they case gets dismissed because they agree to go to rehab, and their case gets dismissed, and it just happens over and over and over again. if we want to help the homeless, we need to get more psych wards and more rehab. i really think we need to look into those areas. thank you. >> thank you, dave. >> hello. my name is bob abassi, and i'm a south beach resident. i don't have a whole lot to say, but it boils down to this. we all want the same point, we all want the same thing, but i think all san franciscans have to sacrifice equally. somebody just said it would be courageous to build a shelter here, but i think it would be courageous to build a shelter in the marina. i haven't seen anyone do anything like that. this district has disproportionately carried the load. i just want to see every district step up to the plate. >> okay. thank you very much. >> hi. my name is chris cooper, and i live in this neighborhood. i've lived -- actually lived here for 17 years, "bohemian rhapsody" f rhapsody" -- but for many years, i've hung out on my boat. i've been part of this neighborhood for a long time, as has my husband, and i'm here to represent him for a few minutes. he's over volunteering at the homeless shelter tonight because they need the help. i want to just ask all of you on the board in your lives had a chance to save someone's life because if you vote yes, you may save somebody's life, even -- that's -- even if it is one, you might do that, and that would be something fabulous that few people get to do in their lives, so thank you very much. >> thank you. ravi sancar, simone, and margaret king. >> hi. my name is simone, and i'm a san francisco resident. san francisco has a homeless problem. over the past few decades, we've seen more and more people being edicted from their homes -- evicted from their homes by shady landlords, and homelessness has been criminalized. our homeless neighbors can't wait. homeless people need a place to live. homeless people are dieing in our front yard. that is unacceptable, it is immoral, and we have let it go on for almost half a century. a previous people cited the number of people on the shelter wait list, 1300 strong and called them all druggessers. that happened in this -- drug users. it's interesting that white people have come up to publicly say i'm not racist, but. it's interesting that some speakers refuse to acknowledge that our homeless neighbors are human beings, and by interesting, i really mean appalling. homeless neighbors are not criminals. they are more likely to be victims of crimes. these are the kinds of bad faith arguments and opposition that have delayed other shelters, delayed navigation centers and delayed affordable housing for people who are homeless. homeless neighbors can't wait, homeless neighbors are dieing in our front yard. homeless neighbors are san francisco citizens. they can't wait. this navigation center must be built, this port commission must approve this project today. commissioner willie adams, commissioner dorie wu ho, commissioner victor makras, you will be personally responsible if you do not approve this navigation center. >> my name is ravi, and i want to remind the commission that it's hard to come to these meetings in the afternoon, and the people that are able to make it are not necessarily a representative sample of the voters. i think we've seen in san francisco that the most consistent thing that san francisco voters care about right now is addressing homelessness between proposition c and london breed's election, this is an issue that voters in general and voters in district six care about a lot. it's true that district six has a lot of the shelters, but it's not this part of district six. the tenderloin does not get the same amount of leeway to defer projects when they're proposed, and i think it's important to be consistent with what we've seen that voters are asking for and move this project forward. thank you. >> thanks, ravi. >> good afternoon. my name's margaret king. i'm a soma resident. my message is very simple to the port. slow down. you've spent five years studying like lanes for the embarcadero enhancement project. you spent five years studying the lot since the warriors project felt apart. all of a sudden, you're on a six-week collision course. you can get off. it's within your power. if you're not going to do that because of the things that you've heard today, do it because it's your legal obligation. the port entered into a settlement in 2017 with the state land commission. you undertook obligations with public lands to make findings about the burton law and commitments. you agreed to enter into an extensive public dialogue. i believe wallace said it when he said you can move on, build it, or engage the public. thank you. >> thank you, margaret. >> barbara, patricia, valerie, and looks like carrie or cory. >> hi. i'm barbara inaba, and i've lived at the port side for 25 years. i'm a senior. i know i look young. any way, my first experience with the fisherman's wharf, the waterfront was when i was a freshman in college, in 1974. never in my wildest dreams did i think i would be a homeowner at port side. i'm from the islands of hawaii, and i believe in the port process. you guys have done a marvelous job in improving the waterfront. you know, this is unscrupulous. it's the city's shenanigans, forcing it down our throat. this happened on washington where the city had the expedited process, you changed the height zoning so there was a referendum, and the people voted in the democratic process to shoot it down. then, the warrior project was going to be rubber stamped, and this is only the end of the sixth week. i plead with you, this is not an appropriate use of the seawall lot. there are other lots that you could actually put it on also, not just pick an r. -- our seawall lot at 330: the actual north beach district had been vetted for six months by the port, near embarcadero and kearney? why are we being discriminated against? the yimby people think we're white -- i'm not white, i'm not wealthily. i pay $16,000 in taxes. >> thank you, barbara, and from the islands, mahalo. >> aloha. >> my name's patricia stone, and i'm a lifelong san franciscan franciscans, and i live two blocks from the proposed location. i just want to say that doing nothing is not really an option. these are homeless people who deserve a place to live, to transition to something more productive. this is a temporary option, a short-term plan. i don't see a problem with using the proposed location. it's a temporary plan until you come up with your development plans. so my husband and i fully support the navigation center at the proposed location. it might be too big, it might have some other constraints with it, but i think we all need to take ownership of moving the homeless in this neighborhood off the streets. there are a lot of homeless here. i'm sure there are more than three dozen, as others have said. so i fully support having the navigation center. i think there's been plenty of public input into numerous sessions. i feel like the staff has listened to us. they've made changes to the plans, and i think many in our neighborhoods just have closed their minds and don't want the navigation center. but i felt that they did a good job describing what their plans are, and i'm willing to give it a try helping the homeless in san francisco. i would appreciate not hearing some of the rude comments for people that do support it because i do think it's something that we've got to solve, and this is a temporary plan, so why not give it a chance. thank you. >> thank you, patricia. >> my name is pat. i'm a san francisco native. i'm also a licensed structural engineer, and i understand, i hope how you do, how reckless it is to put a temporary structure, a tent on a liq liquefaction site, if there is an earthquake -- homeless people have a fundamental right to safe housing, even temporarily. you are the landlords. you have to provide safe housing. providing a mat slab that's 4 inches, that's not a mat slab, that's a ridiculous statement. if you want to build safe housing, you can do it, but it's dramatically more than what's being proposed in the ceqa study. thank you. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners. my name is cory smith, i'm president of the san francisco housing coalition. united dems, we put out our mission statements on a variety of topics, to explain what we feel on a variety of things and why we feel. our value statement specifically on homelessness states we believe that san francisco should address homelessness with navigation centers, affordable housing and administrative services which will help achieve the ultimate goal of ending homelessness. we support evidence based solutions for the varying degrees of challenges that our homeless neighbors face. this proposal checks every single one of those boxes, and when i think about the values that san francisco has, the values that i know all the neighbors in this room have in caring for one another and loving one another, i think that that's enough to say hey, we have to do this for the betterment of everybody. we had multiple elections recently, and in this very precinct -- so you have districts a little bit bigger, and precincts, they're a couple of blocks around a specific neighborhood. this precinct supported mayor london breed who ran on a platform of building more housing. this precinct supported supervisor matt haney who said i will build more navigation center, and this precinct supported prop k. we voted. everybody in this very precinct voted yes to this proposal. so for you to then reject that proposal and reject the will of the voters would be unwise in my opinion. i ask you to support. thank you. >> thank you. larry ackerman, tina, and janet. >> my name is tina hua, and i'm the owner of port side. the first thing i want to say is it might not be apparent in the room, but the overflow was just completely packed? not only were all the seats filled, but 15 rows deep made up of all these concerned citizens and neighbors, and i wanted to just make sure that the commission understood that. i have heard a lot today, and i have tried to keep an open mind in this process. unlike what some of people have tried to portray the homeowners of, they are very compassionate of helping the homeless, and not being unilateral lly oppos to having a project like this in our neighborhood. but the one thing that astounds me is what is the rush about it? i'm not saying delay for no reason, but in the actual report the mayor cites, it calls for specific items to be further researched because it wasn't covered in the report. so it would be great to have a delay so that you can answer some of these concerns. maybe if there was a plan to express why this is really just a temporary shelter, what the exit strategy is, it would make the community feel better and united about what is actually being proposed. if the additional proposals that supervisor haney talked about right now, if those were flushed out and told to us, maybe we would be better behind this. >> thank you. thank you. thank you. is larry or jane here? >> hello. thank you. my name is max, and i'm a resident of the infinity. i'm excited that our neighborhood has the opportunity to house some of the over 4,000 san franciscans sleeping out shelter. besides a human rights crisis, a day delay is a day we're condemning our neighbor's mi misery affects us all, not just those who live around it. almost every time my brother used the b.a.r.t. elevator in san francisco, it strongly smells of urine. i want people to have a home with a bathroom here so people are not forced to make transit a biohazard for people with strollers and disabilities. we need 20 more shelters for those experiencing homelessness. when the city proposes the next shelter in the tenderloin, or the embarcadero, people will be able to say we did the right thing or they'll block it on the grounds suggested here, the neighborhood is too residential or the police isn't responsive enough or people are too wealthy. i want my neighborhood to be an example of the good that we can provide, not the rich insulating themselves from these responsibilities. i urge you to approve the nav center. thank you. >> our next three speakers are brett, todd, andrew. >> my name is brett cooper, and i live just a few blocks from the proposed center. i just want to .1 thing out po out to the commission. i live near delancey street, and if they were proposing an expansion of that project, we would be supporting it. one person who spent 40 years providing supportive services, she said this was the wrong solution. i would courage the commission to reach out to her to get her views. if you're not going to listen to the immediate residents, then listen to an expert who lives right next door. thank you. >> is todd -- okay. >> yeah. my name's todd. i live at the infinity. thank you for allowing me to speak. i think everyone here, or the vast majority of people here agree we have a significant homeless problem in san francisco, and i believe that a significant portion of people want to help on both sides of the issue. the problem is that the mayor does not have a plan to solve that homeless problem, she has a plan to build 1,000 beds of a navigation center in the city by 2020. and this plan gets her 200 beds closer to that goal, period. the residents -- there's been reports that the -- you know, this has divided the community. for the residents of south beach, this has united us. representing the infinity, which is roughly over 1400 residents on south beach, the h.o.a. took a poll about this, and it was 90% against the plan. that's the original plan. again, we want a plan for the homeless in san francisco, but we believe that this is a bad plan, and we want it improved. supervisor haney thinks this is a rushed plan, as well. he went on record asking you to defer your vote to give the city and -- more time to come up with a comprehensive plan that would include navigation centers to address the homeless problem, and i think that's what we're asking for, to have more time to get this properly planned. >> thanks, todd. jordan and martin and she reasshe -- shereen mcspadden. >> my name is jordan, and despite the way i'm dressed, i was that homeless people with matted hair and lice, but people believed in me and put me up at a homeless center at 16th and mission. if that was not there, i probably would have killed myself or died on the streets. while i have concern about the number of people at the safe center, i'm willing to support it because i'm in favor of real solutions, which is not only navigation centers, but permanent supportive housing which we just seem to be delaying in building, and we really need development and not displacement and actual services. and finally, let's face it. the southern poverty law center should be considering these nimby groups a bunch of hate groups. navigation centers will not lead to the apocalypse. i just want to -- to lastly say hate has no home here. thank you. >> my name is marty mattis. i'm here on behalf of myself and my wife, who couldn't be here today. we have homes on delancey street a block from the planned site. we also have a home in the sunset district. we're privileged to have two homes to spent -- spend time and to have raised our family. but in the 72 years since i was born in san francisco, i've seen a lot of change in the city. and the biggest change is we have a lot more wealthy people and a lot more really poor people. and it's the duty of the wealthy people to live near the poor people and to help them and to observe them and to assist them. and we need a such as is being proposed -- we also need one in the sunset district, where we need to pay attention to the poor in our community. somebody talked about a 54% failure rate of the present navigation system. well, to me, that's a 46% success rate. and somebody else talked about saving one life. one life, 46% success, you guys can achieve a lot. talk to your lawyers, get this thing approved as quickly as you legally can. don't listen to those who are calling for delay. they want to kill the project. approve the project as quickly and as safely as you legally can. thank you. >> good afternoon or good evening, commissioners. my name is shereen mcspadden. i'm a resident of san francisco, and as a matter of disclosure, i work for the department of ageing and adult services, but i'm here on my own time. i am in support of the navigation center and i will be in support of every navigation center in san francisco. we've got a crisis on our hands and it is our responsibility to fix that. one of the things that i've been impressed with is they really coordinate services for people. it's simplistic to think that people are going to make it through the first time. these are people with complex needs who have experienced lots and lots of trauma. it's not about a success rate, it's important we're providing services to people. i live in the mission near a navigation center there. as a homeowner, the other side of it, yeah, of course you want your property values to be great, and you want to walk down the street without needles and feces, and i have seen a huge difference since the navigation center went in. i walk by the navigation center to get to work. i don't feel unsafe ever, and i'm glad that the city is doing this. thank you. >> thank you very much. i have christine miller, daniel matisse, and sam lens. christine, daniel, sam? if not, i'll keep moving, come back to you. olivia, tim, or toby. i know toby's here. >> hi. commissioners. my name is tim, and i'm with st. anthony's foundation. two years ago, i was a small business owner on mission street and 26th which placed me about a block away from the mcmillan electric company that was a navigation center. i just want to talk about the history very briefly. my business was a small pet store, which was a neighborhood pet supply store, which is much like a barber shop. you have -- the whole neighborhood comes in, you hear everything. there was a great deal of push back to that navigation center. i heard much of the same rhetoric that we're hearing now. in fact, the neighbors managed to push it, to delay it for a couple of months -- pardon me. but when it finally opened, many of the problems that we were experiencing in that problems disappeared. it didn't solve everything, but many, many of those problems disappeared. and to this day, many of those problems continue to not be as serious as they were two years ago, 2.5 years ago. there's a lot of speculation, but the history of what navigation centers do to neighborhoods is very clear, and i can attest to that. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> got to put my brightness up now. hi. my name is sam liu, and i was born and raised in san francisco. a lot of the comments that i'm hearing today is what is the rush about? why not wait until we have a better plan? why not wait until we have a better site in another neighborhood? and i want to say the rush is that we have people dieing. since 2014, people have died on our streets. in 2018 alone, it was 280 people. if the 200 or people here who spoke due to lack of housing, we wouldn't have 30 meetings with about. we wouldn't think -- about it. we wouldn't think if it was economically sound. we would within a week setup a shelter, setup services to get people back into housing. homeless people deserve shelter regardless whether or not they are using drugs, but also t

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