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homeless people deserve shelter regardless whether or not they are using drugs, but also wealthy people use drugs at a much higher rate than wealthy people. that's something we have to acknowledge. the only difference is some people are housed and some people or homeless, so i just want to urge the commissioners today to please vote yes and support the safe shelter. thank you so much. >> hi there. my name is olivia, and i'm a resident of district one. i think that everyone can agree on one thing, and that is homelessness is a massive problem in san francisco. we need this navigation center, and i find it appalling that we have such dedicated opposition to this nav center. there is such a hatred of poor people and homeless people in this city and in this room, and it is not solely any individual homeless person's fault that they are struggling with shelter and housing. there are lots of reasons homelessness exists, and one of them is certainly that we have dozens of people who want to stop a homeless shelter. think of that, people against a homeless shelter. everyone here, we're all san franciscans, whether we're housed or not. i'm hearing a lot of concern for children and families in the waterfront, and i have a question for you all. what about the homeless children and families? there are hundreds. do you have the same concern for their safety? commissioners, i urge you not to give into this hate. do not delay this vote because people are dieing in san francisco's front yard every day. homeless people cannot wait. please vote in support of the nav center. thank you. >> thank you. >> toby? you're up. >> good afternoon, commissioners. this is very, very complicated. it also makes one feel very sad. however, you four and the fifth person, you have a lot that you can do. there have been many ideas suggested by the audience where you can perhaps move this project along but insist refinements and changes are made. our group, which is the central waterfront advisory group, has spent quite a bit of time on the issue. we sent to you four points. we think each of these points can be refined and developed, and we would like to you that you, if you can, indicate that yes, you're going to support navigation centers where appropriate, that you're going to support the homeless people of this city. at the same time, you're going to ask questions that need perhaps to be asked. perhaps we need to make people understand what temporary is. perhaps we need to look at this as an opportunity to fill the glass rather than empty the glass. there are opportunities for the residents of this neighborhood to voluntary and work with the homeless people, to teach their children about what it means to be homeless and how you as a child can help. so i don't want you just to give up and say okay, we're going to vote yes for this or no, we can't possible do that. think of something that's perhaps more nuanced that you can move this project along. >> thank you, toby. the next names are jordan, john, and brian. >> hi. i'm jordan, and i'm here to say i support building the navigation center. homelessness requires a response of the same size of the problem. what i'm hearing this neighborhood say is cars matter more than homeless people. district lines are arbitrary, people are more important than parking. saying no since the 70's is exactly how we got here, so i encourage you to vote yes today, not to delay. we need action now, and not sometime in the far off future. thanks. >> thank you. >> good evening, commissioners. my name is john, and i just celebrated my 25th anniversary living across the street from the project site. and in addition, my family came here not speaking english almost a century ago and worked on the waterfront. my grandfather would freak out if he thought i was living across from pier 3032. i thought i'd be crazy. i also participated on the three nonprofit boards all for not pay. i'm not a professional nonprofit. it's all out of civic duty, and i've participated in a lot of interactions with the city, and i've got to tell you, i've never felt such a disingenuous feeling from the city. every one of them, it's the same presentation. it's a monologue. every issue that's brought up, it's how can we mollify the neighborhood and move on from it. i understand, but we all live in san francisco, presumably, and we all know the reality of what homeless is, and we all want to end it, but we all know the reality is, and that is that there are safety issues with it. we've all walked down market street on a sunday afternoon and been afraid of someone who's screaming that's a real problem. i've got a five-year-old and an eight-year-old and i'm concerned about having a neighbor that's an open facility -- open door, coming and going 24 hours a day, half of which are addicted -- by the way, i worked in an urban trauma center. the facility says you can't use on-site. but design, that means they're using in our neighborhood. that's what we're opposed to. don't call it the southern poverty law center. we're just rational. >> thank you. next. >> good afternoon. my name is john. i'm with the united educators of san francisco. we unanimously passed a support resolution at the executive board meeting and i would love to read an excerpt from it. whereas homelessness and a lack of accountability continue to challenge fisan francisco. whereas offering 200 individuals experiencing homelessness shelter, dignity represents humanitarian progress in san francisco and whereas there is no excuse for homelessness in a city as wealthy as ours. and whereas every human being has the right to shelter. therefore be it resolved that the united educators of san francisco support the navigation center at seawall lot 330 and encourage the port commission of san francisco to approve this site without delay. again, it passed unanimously. >> thank you, appreciate it. bruce, noel, staley -- stacey. >> good afternoon, to the commission and everybody present. i am an employee here in the city of san francisco. full disclosure, i work for sfmta. i was hired about three years ago to work the night shift. i cover a number of areas throughout the city. prior to that, i used to commute through the city from the transbay terminal down to the caltrain station. the homelessness problem in this city that's growing continues to grow not just in south beach, not just in san francisco, but across the nation. we all know that this -- this -- these centers are not going to solve the problem of homelessness. that's a wider issue that this country has not been able to or refuses to address. we do know that this will relieve a lot of suffering in this city. we do know that if you delay, we can talk about how to make the center nicer, but meantime, that delay leaves people sleeping on the sidewalks. i go around them every night when i walk down to the south of market area. we can talk about property values and what your responsibility is to increase the property values or we can talk about human beings. that's what we're dealing with. when i walked through the city four or five years on alameda street between potrero and bryant, i had to walk in the streets because the encampments were either side of me. i literally could not put my foot on the sidewalk because encampments are still there. the navigation centers are doing what they're supposed to do. they're alleviating human suffering. for those of you who see the homeless people on the street and are bothered by it, the homeless -- homelessness isn't going away, but it's being helped. >> thank you, brother. appreciate it. thank you. >> don't delay. >> thank you. >> good evening. my name is noel bonner. full disclosure. i do have an as needed contract with the port of san francisco. as a business owner in district six and a board member of the united democratic club and a resident of san francisco, i am 100% in support of building the navigation center on lot 330. overall, i have been appalled and saddened by many of the comments made by my fellow san francisco neighbors over the past several weeks as certain statements that have been uttered show a total lack of regard, care, or concern for human life. on april 3, 2019 at the delancey street foundation, we heard how lot 330 was chosen, how the city was committed to opening more navigation centers across the city in all of our districts, why navigation centers are an important part to solving the homeless crisis, how navigation centers have impacted neighborhoods, gradually improving safety in neighborhoods and other impacts that navigation centers have had. and after all this information was shared, which in my upon provided evidence that navigation center would have, there was still hateful comments by people. i think it's important to say this. every day when you walk past a young man, woman, or young person on the street, remember that's someone's child, mother, father, brother, sister, fre , friend. just because -- >> thank you, noel. >> thank you. >> appreciate it. mr. chen. >> good evening, port commission. i'm a san francisco born and raised son of an immigrant, and i am urging you to vote in support of this navigation center tonight. i know a lot of my fellow members of the asian community are also on the streets sleeping in corners in the sunset speak various parts of the city, and i think it's very important that we -- we provide a place for these people to go and sleep and navigate their ways out of homelessness. i also think it's very important to address the fact that although many people in opposition have mentioned oh, there's crime, drugs related to these -- these shelters that come in, we have shelters in the city already. the data does not support any of those claims. fur more, this navigation center is getting special treatment by the police department, getting a special hotline just for them. i don't see -- if this is not a symbol of privilege, i don't know what is. thank you. >> thank you. i have peter s-e-n-a-m. i think peter, you're from infinity. sheela peace, and a sarah ellis. >> commissioner, i oppose this navigation center in this area. >> you want to state your name. >> my name is peter singh. i've been going to several meetings, and you guys are caretakers over waterfront. i think everything has to be debated and looked into it. you guys have to do some outreach program, talk to the neighbors and see the reason why everybody's complaining from the neighborhood. we have navigation centers in the city -- i mean, in the district six, and if you go around without informing them and check out what is happening, the needles, they're not being protected, nothing is being done. inside the navigation center, everything is hunky-dory. the city says we're going to have -- this street will be flooded with your words in your throats. it's going to be very bad. there's nothing temporary about it, so mayor and supervisors, they need to do some more outreach and talk to the neighbors. and we are not complaining because we are all rich. you have no idea how we are living in there. you have a two-bedroom condo, and you have five people paying the rent for it, and you call it rich? it's not. we are making it, barely, and all the stuff. we are paying taxes. people who own the condos, only 1% are the one who pay it up front. >> thank you, peter. appreciate it. next. >> my name is sarah. i live in the infinity, which people said before, it's a few minutes from the proposed navigation center. i also work right next door and i want to voice my support for the navigation center. much of the opposition i hear today is driven by fear, and you know it's fear of failure, fear of what their children might experience, fear of what their family might experience, and i think that fear is valid, but it's also a choice that we make, and it's a very paralyzing choice. i'd rather choose hope over fear. i think choosing hope, welcoming people who are unlike us into this neighborhood makes our community stronger and not weaker, so i choose hope, and i hope you all do the same. thank you. >> sheela piece. if not, allen cooper, m.d. i guess he's a medical doctor. sheela, and kyle. kyle, are you here, or sheela, or allen? please come on down. if not, i'm going to keep going. i'll get back to you. peter, tia, and curtis. peter, tia, and curtis. >> good evening, commissioners. my name is curtis bradford, and i'm district six resident. been here over 20 years. as a resident of this district, i believe i have just as much say how we used resources of this community as any other resident. i am fully in support of the navigation center for lot 330. you know, it strikes me -- i've heard the conversation about wanting to protect our children and our seniors. i'm willing to go with that argument. you might be surprised to find out i support that statement. but using that logic, this is exactly the right place to build it because it is a fairly low density neighborhood when it comes to children and seniored compared to other neighborhoods in the city. >> excuse me. let him talk. >> the tenderloin, which is the highest density children in the city, highest density of seniors in the city is also the highest density of homeless in the city. so if we're really concerned with what's best for children, seniors, and the homeless, then we should be building a navigation center in this neighborhood so we can disburse some of the burden on the rest of the city, and that's just a fact. privilege does not mean you don't get to participate in the solution. you're actually becoming part of the problem, right? and the people that they're talking about that they don't want in their neighborhood were already there before they came and plopped their ivory tower down and decided it was there neighborhood. we're not talking about people that don't belong here. they were already here. they were san francisco residents when they were displaced. they're our neighbors, they're our family, and they're our community, and they have as much right to live in this neighborhood as anyone else. i ask you to support it because it's the right thing to do. delaying it may cost lives. thank you. >> thank you. >> my name is ted, and i live in the area and also operate a small business in the area. it's a little painful for me to not know the entire problem. we want to help people, but talking about a few beds in this particular neighborhood is, i think, just painful for me because the solutions, the words that i've heard, we're going to increase the public works, and we're going to increase the police presence. to me, i've seen the problems in the past, and they -- they work first time, second time. third time, and by the seventh time, they give up, and they -- they are just overwhelmed, and i'm not sure if it's a solution. also, i'd like to see a solution that includes rest room. so if the homeless people have no place to go, they ask for public rest rooms to use. they don't have that, so they go to a business, and we as a business owner, we have been opening the rest rooms for the -- fore t the homeless, as well. guess what? they mess it up. nobody else can use it. to a few months -- so a few months down the line, we have to close it. so i think if we come up with a plan for the homeless use as well, maybe it's a rest room that flushes automatically after you use. if you push that button, not only just flushing the toilet. i've seen that toilet 30 years ago somewhere else, so it's possible. i think we should come up with something like that. thank you. >> thanks, ted. this person is called super girl of san francisco. is super girl of san francisco here? okay. if not, we'll keep going. >> hi there. my name's riley. last night, 4,000 people slept on our city streets. today, you can give 200 of our neighbors the shelter they desperately need or we can let intolerance and fear guide or actions every day. commissioners, please approve this navigation center. thank you. >> thanks, riley. next. >> good evening. my name's dale seymour. i'm from the tenderloin. you have a crumbling seawall that you're trying to deal with. let 'take an example. if that seawall were to crumble tomorrow -- let's hope it doesn't -- and your golden towers will fall in the streets, we in the tenderloin will not have a meeting to decide if we're going to approve a navigation center for you all. you know, i listen and i listen and i listen. for some reason, i can identify what side you're on when you walk up to the podium. i don't know if it's privilege or what. i don't know. let's be honest, this is about your property values. when the next homeless person dies on the streets, that's blood money because there's no right for you to deny a person's right to shelter. as a resident of san francisco, everybody has a right to shelter. why are you trying to deny it? one person says what's the rush? what the hell, what's the rush? let me tell you why there's a rush. john, mary, bobbie, tyrone, shenay, bobbie, jimmy, sheela, mary, susie. that's who the rush is for. our folks have to have a right to shelter. you know the reason why i'm standing up here looking halfway decent is because i went to a shelter in mission bay some years ago, right down the street, 300 people, and that shelter turned my life around. why you going to deny someone else that chance? what's the big deal? and i used to drive a cab in this neighborhood. the drug dealers and the drug users and the drunks live up in your towers. i used to take them home every night, so don't just think it's on the street. you've got dope fiends living in your homes. keep it real, folks. >> keep it -- all right. >> what's your name? >> peter? >> yes, go ahead, peter. >> my name is peter hosey, and i live here in the city. we need safe, well run navigation centers as part of a comprehensive program of services, not sweeps, to help our fellow san franciscans get back into healthy, happy live does. stigma does not help. sweeps do not help. services helps. safety helps. shelter helps. please approve the navigation center. thank you. >> thank you. all right. one more time, jim, christie, angela, and pat, please come up to the mic. jim, christie, angela, or pat. if not, i'm going to keep moving. [inaudible] >> she already spoke in all right. thank you, then. [inaudible] >> all right. charlie -- looks like -- charlie, john, and steven. are you here? charlie, john, and steven. >> dale seymour wants to talk about keeping it real. well, the thing is the navigation center is violating several policies and its contract with the city and county of san francisco and its contract with the homeless, but jeff kosinsky and his staff, they just sweep it all under the rug. so then, myself, i have to file a lawsuit against the navigation center because they -- they actually sent me this document that says they are above policies and protocols of the navigation centers. that includes their contract, san francisco administrative code 2400. basically, when you go into a navigation center, they do what they want to you, and you have no type of resource except to be a homeless person litigating against the city and county of san francisco. when i was in the navigation center, i was called racial slurs by the staff, they just swept it under the rug -- and i had it documented in writing. they violate the shelter standards policy, they violate the standards of care. and throw it on top of this. remember, jeff kosinsky, remember your statements in the back of the lyft, that you could ignore the supervisors in district six? he thinks he could ignore the supervisor of district six. so you're next. when there's a problem in your community, he's just going to be ignoring you. he's the same person who called the sheriff's on a -- like, a 70-year-old woman when she's trying to describe violations in the contract. these navigations are unregulated. they're less regulated that the shelter systems. they need to cleanup their act before they fling these all over the city. [please stand by] >> i have not noticed any negative impacts on my neighborhood living there. it's been a positive impact. i follow etch c ecs which operae shelter on facebook. people brought up earlier that the port's mission statement says something about a gateway to a world-class city. in 2018, the u.n. sent a housing specialist to san francisco and they called our homeless, the way we treat homeless people a violation. i've had friends peopl bring pee from out of town. he told a friend almost to stop and he said, no, no, i realize how wrong that feels. so to when i bring friend and family to the city, i want people to love it, i point to a navigation centre where we are treating people with compassion and helping pe people to turn tr lives around. i don't want to show them some other thing that's delayed or explain to my family, yeah, i live here and we decided we had to wait, we couldn't do it. yeah, we treat other humans this way. so i'm here to support the navigation centre. that's all i've got. >> thank you. next. i live in district six and i support this navigation centre because it's an issue of safety. people are dying on our streets. this navigation centre will save lives and i think that's a lot more important than, like, unfounded fears, and overactive imaginations. like, people die from not having a place to live. people don't die from living next to homeless people. so please, i ask you to make the right decision and approve this navigation centre, thank you. >> thank you. >> paul leon. nicholas abbott and laura serma. >> hi. i'm. steven buss with u.n. b action. i guess i want to say i'm here to say i'm sorry, not necessarily to you or anyone in the room, but to our homeless neighbours. who threw ou through our sheer n to take bold steps suffer every night on the streets. we have so much money in this city. we're one of the wealthiest cities in the wealthiest countries on earth and we can't bring outs t ourselves to builda shelter for 200 people who sleep every night outside. what's wrong with us? please vote in favour. >> nicholas abbott and laura serma. i'll keep going. looks like emily green, dan swislow and then louis, riviera. >> i'm a 20-year resident of san francisco andee of a video game company that spent most of the last 13 years in district 6. so very much a part of this neighborhood and community. and i'm here to support the building of the navigation centre. i think we should be honest about two things. one is that this navigation centre is not going to solve the homeless crisis. it is far bigger than that, 1300 people waiting for shelter beds but every single step forward that we tabl take and just as important is saying no to this would embodien the forces to say no to every navigation centre in the city. we should be honest that every single neighborhood we try to a navigation centre in will oppose it but if we encourage it, we'll encourage every neighborhood to oppose and oppose and never take any of these modest steps forward to help people right now. thank you. >> thank you. hi name is dan swislow, i work in market street in district 6 and i'm here to support the navigation centre. i've heard folk pose the navigation centre come up here and i don't believe them to be racist or hateful or intolerant. this is a scarry problem. drug use is scarry. homelessness is scarry. mental illness is scarry, the despair it creates is scarry. i see it everyday in the tenderloin. but it's also a reality in our city and it's a reality for all of us in the city and we're all responsible for solving it. every neighborhood is responsible for solving it. people are always going to disagree and we won't get the consensus. someone earlier said to slow down. if you reject this proposal or delay this proposal, you embrace that fear. i'm here to say speed up. the crisis is now. if you take a bold step tonight and help take steps towards building this navigation centre, you open the door for change in the city so that every neighborhood can take responsibility for solving this crisis. thanks. >> thank you. >> i'm here to speak about the navigation centre. i'm still in the shelter system. i never thought i would get to 62 years old so i could get senior citizen housing. my friends, people went to the navigation centre and they'll be able to graduate from high school and speak a second language and to hold job for two years, to keep housing. all that because from the streets, they went to a navigation center and they went to a permanent housing. they are coming back to get engaged in the work and work is work. they are living a productive life. yes, i am in the shelter system for the last seven years, on and off. our next speakers, please. come on up. >> hello. good evening, commissioners and hello neighbours. i live a little less than a mile from the navigation center in the mission and i work here in d6. i would like to echo the concerns for the children and the families this neighborhood. i am deeply concerned about the example we could set for these children by denying these humane opportunities. we do an incredible disservice to their well-being. some here may like to tell themselves the clients of this center would be nothing like me but i know better. i know i'm more community. if you don't like me very much, that's fair. think of someone you do like because the only difference between us is fortune. these neighbors would be and are a gift to the community. i wonder and i hope you wonder how can we be for neighborly. we can start by approving it without delay and every night outside is a failure. thank you. >> my name is chris. thank you for your time. i don't have a huge speech prepared. i just wanted us to think about what kind of city do we want to be and i think the folks voting on this proposal here tonight have a huge role in that. i think san francisco as a city has a history of showing who we want to be for those who try to question us. in 2000, when we were one of the first to give out gay licenses, we thought that battle and just recently, when president trump told us we cannot be a safe place for immigrants, we fought that, we showed up in court and fought that and today, we have prejudiced people, bigots and we have to tell them that is not who we are and we are better than that and to be honest, for the folks here, for the signs and needles on them and say to bullshit and et cetera, there will never be a good location for them. but every time and every location is good for the people who are dying on our streets. thank you very much. please vote yes on this. >> next. you know, i'll sitting here listening and i'm hearing opponents say that we don't need more beds. we need better services. and the answer, of course, is yes and. i'm hearing opponents say we need to build an arena and not here. the answer is, of course, yes and and i beg those in opposition to show up with me when i show up when we are building one of these and support that project. because i know i'll be there and i hope everyone in this room will be there and to stand up for that position that they're espousing. we can only do what is in our individual power to solve the homelessness crisis and one thing to do is approve this navigation center and i ask that you do that and join all of us here on both sides to say yes and as citizens and think how to continue solving this crisis going forward. thank you for your time. >> thank you. next up jonathan lack and ryan coe and megan riley. >> good evening, commissioners and thank you for your patience and hearing all of us. regarding the people who have come up here making their case against the navigation centre, long-time residents, being a homeowner on south beach for ten, 20 years, i would like the commission torse think about whether there's an inherent difference between these home hs and the humans experience homelessness. who don't live only in this neighborhood but seek temporary services. is there any difference that gives this first set of humans here more right to be in this neighborhood? how did money come to them? how many are from an oppressed section from the community or people of colour? how many have probably inherited generation of real estate because they're white and benefited from historical policies that benefit white people? people experiencing homelessness do not do so by choice. it's been they are denied opportunities and live in a system of racism. for those who claim they are not racist, that's fine, but you must believe there's racism if you consider yourselves a sanfrancisco person. we give people experiencing homelessness an opportunity to be in this neighborhood. the people who own homes in south beach do not have an inherent right than some are dehumanizing and outcasting. as pointed out earlier, most people experiencing homelessness have been in the city longer than you probably have. thank you. >> next. >> my name is jonathan and i've lived in san francisco the past fowere years. two years. i struggle with what this claims to believe and what i see on the streets. the hopelessnesno human being sd to sleep outside. each day that there remains a wait list as shelters exposes thousands to needless violence and crime. if it was a member of my female on the sidewalk, i would see this as an emergency. i would not delay or hesitate to reduce their suffering. i hope be see the basic dignity of those who suffer. we cannot tolerate those citizens to satisfy the contingent concerns of a powerful few. our values are not te defined by the boldest proclamations but defined by taking action to aid the powerless in the face of fear. today the port commission has a decision to stand by dignity that san francisco believes anyone and vouted for. voted fo. please approve this navigation center now. >> next. >> my name is megan riley and i didn't plan to be here but at work i was listening to the livestreep and i came here because i was disappointed with some of the rhetoric i was hearing and the comments lacking basic empathy for the homeless neighbours and came in support of the navigation centre and i can't say much you haven't heard today but i am a resident in district 6 and i live in the area. i live off 2nd and hairton and n and i work nearby. we have an obligation to support each other when we fall including our unhoused neighbors and mentally ill neighbors and drug-addicted neighbors. this one centre isn't everything and won't fix everything but we need every tool we can get for this homeless crisis. so please vote yes tonight. thank you. i'm here to support the navigation center and i guess i just have two points. the first logical point is around safety and streets. i think we have a lot of empirical evidence that navigation centers are good for the community, good for safety, good for reducing the number of unsheltered homeless who are on the streets, by providing the beds and services that they need. i hear the arguments about what about the children running around? let's be clear. first, your kids probably around running around the streets of san francisco as its is and if i were, i think you would be happier knowing that unsheltered hopeless weren'tunkempt under the bay bridge. there's a viral feces in san francisco and providing these people a safe place to clean themselves up is very, very important. that's my first logical important. my second logical argument as a homeowner, right, i think economically speaking this navigation center will help home values. the reasons are quite sensible. in the short term, buyers won't want to come to this area if they see the visible unsheltered homeless and by providing the support not only do we show what we can do as a community in materials of taking care of those who need it the most, but also improving, quote, unquote, the ambiance and other thing realtors like to say. >> up next, jamie whittaker and bobick and robert boggott and jamie whittaker? ok. keep going. come on up. i've lived in san francisco for over six years. as a gay man i came here to live in a desired place. speaking against the navigation centre saddened me. this is not acceptance but denial, denial that the status quo is working, that someone else needs to step up and people are dying on the streets and saying no is giving into fear. ilyed at thiri lived at third ar three years and i saw many whom i could not help. i don't know how many people i've seen lying on the sidewalk who i've outlived. i quote, this is cruel and inhuman treatment upon our own neighbors . we may close our eyes but the blood will not cease so drip from our hands until we do something. please approve this navigation center. >> we don't need that kind of talk. be respectful or the officers will ask you to leave. i've tried to be lenient to be talk but we won't allow everybody to be disrespected. everybody has a right to be heard, no matter what side you're on. >> i whole heartedly agree. >> it's a pleasure to meet you all. i'm a volunteer and a member of the action and on the united democratic board and it doesn't matter. what matters is people's personal stories. and how you all taking the vote today to approve this navigation center will dramatically impact this whole livelihood and a chance for someone to live in san francisco in the near future because they'll be able to be housed. i live in the richmond district. i realize i'm on the other side of town. i want one of these in my neighborhood. you don't have purview over the ricrichmond district. you have purview over the port. i'm going to tell a sic quick s. a neighbor of mine who lived up the block from me was living in the bus shelter. her name was sarah. she had been living there for months and months and months. if the story sounds familiar, i told it during the debate a few months ago. sarah was in a wheelchair in the shelter and she was just there, that was where she was living. that was her home and clearly she needed help and needed somewhere to go. there are not enough shelter bed or housing in this city. we need to build more housing and we need more navigation centers and we need to provide all sorts of other services, too, i don't doub, i don't doub. vote in support of a navigation centre because my neighbors were to connect sarah to jeff's apartment, hsh would get her the help she needed and she got placed on sho. that is a great story. we need toa thousand x that story if we end homelessness. i urge you to think about what it means and thank you, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> next three speakers, brenda wright, kotto and kathy lye, brendon wright, you're up. come on up. i'm grateful but i feel deeply ashamed for how we're treating our neighbors. there's so much wealth an opportunity in the city and yet, we choose to raise nearly six figures to hand over to wealthy lawyers, to fight this navigation center. we should be ashamed ourselves. i don't want to live in a city where we fear and blame those who are less fortunate than we are. i want to live in a city where we use all we've been given to lift others out of poverty. homelessness is already a crisis in this district, not building the navigation center is not a solution. i urge you to approve the navigation center without delay. thank you. >> thank you. >> state your name. >> i'm rowan and i live in the tenderloin. matt hainey is my name and i sleep homeless people all of the time and they are my neighbors, too. they are your neighbors, they are supervisor constituents and your constituents, as a port commission as people who live in san francisco. so we need to -- sanfrancisco needs to do more to help these people. i'm not a native san francisco person and i navigated here from europe and it's difficult to explain to my name where there's people living on the street when this country is supposed to be richer than the one i came from. we need to build these two hundred beds on the embarcadaro. i would say we won't run out of need any time soon. there's thousands of people that need 200 beds. i'm saddened there' there's a hg crisis. my office is two blocks from the proposed lot. so i see the unhoused folks around here and i would much rather we house and serve them than to leave them outside which seems obvious. i want to remind those of us worried about safety that homeless folks causing violence is a myth. they are often the victims rather than perpetrators. so remember the humanity of the people in our communities who have the least and who can get off the streets for good with our support. please do not delay the vote on this proposal as helping our homeless neighbors is one of the most you're gent need urgent ne. thank you. >> thank you. >> our next speakers will be

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