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[speaking foreign language] [speaking foreign language] in this election, we had over 100 members to march around chinatown to ask members to vote yes on prop c. I know that there are volunteers all over the city every day and night. They are a member of families, nonprofits and homeless people. Its the people power that made prop c pass. Yes, this is just a first step. I hope that the organizations can continue to work hard together. Always remember, our goal is to protect our home, our city, thank you so much. [cheers and applause] [speaking foreign language] [speaking foreign language] [speaking foreign language] interpretor hi. My name is amy, one of the organizers. Today i represent the family in chinatown. The passing of prop c means that families will get adequate housing and the help they need. In chinatown, there are around 400 families that share bathrooms and kitchens. Its too small. And parents have worked hard, but they still cant afford the expensive rent. And this is their own choice. The passing of prop c is a good start to provide more housing opportunities. Finally, we hope the board of supervisors ensure prop c properly and make good use of the money. Thank you. [cheers and applause] supervisor peskin i have several certificates, but i think we have other colleagues that want to honor. Maybe when theyre done, we can take pictures out in the hallway. I will hand them the certificates and then we can go outside and take a shot. Supervisor ronen if i could call up staff and leadership from Community Services in the mission s. R. O. Collaborative program. If you can make your way up to the mike. Today im joining supervisors peskin and kim in honoring many leaders and organizations whose extraordinary oh, sorry. Do you want me to stop . President cohen sorry. My deepest apologies. Were going down the row. And supervisor kim is next on the roster. Well come back to you at the end. My apologies for the confusion. Supervisor kim since she started supervisor ronen sorry about that. Continuing. Lots of amazing people and organizations to honor. It was a citywide effort to pass this incredible proposition our city our home. And that effort included many leaders and organizations from the Mission District that im lucky enough to represent on the board of supervisors. Prop c was incredibly powerful because the campaign brought together a variety of business leaders, residents, organizations, to generate revenue and address homelessness with longterm solutions. In the mission, three major organizations played a role. The shelter staff and members of the organizations hit the streets day in and day out to make sure that the campaign was a success. I would also like to recognize a few important individuals at each organization whose contributions were absolutely critical. Amy aguilera. [cheers and applause] leticia arse, becky holm, chris durazo. [cheers and applause] deanna flores, lower street Community Services. Katie salcraig, mission s. R. O. Collaborative. [cheers and applause] together and in partnership with many others, this mission team led a very successful bilingual campaign. This effort helped to bring about the extremely high voter turnout among the diverse residents of the mission. My deepest gratitude and highest honors to you for your leadership and determination in this campaign. The implementation of our city our home will make a profound difference in the most vulnerable among us. Amy aguilera will speak for the team. [cheers and applause] great. Thank you so much, supervisor ronen, for the recognition. I want to draw big props to the Mission Organizations who participated. Katie has led the conversations with us and she organizes s. R. O. Communities and so its been a great collaboration with everybody. Were really happy to say that the work done to make prop c a success is really due to it being a peoplepowered solution. Its a testament to the fact that when we allow the experts, who are our communities, who know the issues and the best way to go about the issues is, to take the lead, that way we can have genuine out comes that are communitybased. And so we organized with latina communities, made up of monolingual, spanishspeaking mothers, mostly, who brought out their children to canvas and phone bank and visible. Our youngest member was 3 months old. And they do it because they know that the homelessness crisis affects all of us. And that on any given day, we can find ourselves in that same situation. And so thats why as organizers, we made sure to have oneonone conversations in language and reach out in a culturally competent way in our communities. So, lastly, San Francisco is leading the way by showing the nation that we care and we can take care of our own. So lets work together. And its implemented, who are in need in these scary moments. [cheers and applause] president cohen thank you. Thank you. I want to recognize supervisor kim. Supervisor kim i would like to bring up the coalition on homelessness. [cheers and applaus [cheers and applause] its my honor to introduce and honor the coalition today. And its been such an honor to work with you over my eight years serving on this board of supervisors. And today we do have individual certificates recognizing our director, jenny freedomback, becky evans, sam lue, kelly cutler, miguel herrera, jack rice, emmitt house, cynthia fong, and lauren hall. You know the coalition on homeless celebrated its 30th anniversary leading the fight to change the hearts and minds of the root of homelessness. A rag tag group and by the way still a rag tag group of Community Activists and homeless residents came together to strategize a plan for permanent Affordable Housing access and dignity. Known as being creative and confrontational, its known for its work, most proudly, of establishing standards of care in our shelters, expanding access to Substance Abuse for homeless residents long before we were all talking about it. And our city funded sub city program, win which ive been fighting with you. Found a paper with the largest circulation. And it was a key signatory of the ballot measure. A one of the Amazing Things about the campaign is it was led primarily by women and i just want to thank again jenny, sam, cynthia, kelly, jen and so much more to lead the fight to expand what we should be contributing to helping those that are the most vulnerable here in our society. And by the way, folks on the streets have jobs and are working and just need an affordable home. The crisis were trying to address is the Affordable Housing crisis and we need significant money to address it. The 1 million to 2 million to 3 million that we fight for in tears on budget night will not address this. Prop c will be the single most important investment that the city has made to face the most important challenge facing cities today. I want to thank the coalition on homeless. You employed 150 residents, largely homeless that led the strategy and outreach from the ground up. I heard about your meetings. Theyre crazy. Very few campaigns are ran on such a level of consensus, where everyone has a say and input and folks on the ground have the most input on how the campaign is led and the policy were developing because you are the true policy experts that live and breathe the system and know how it can be improved. Sam lue, rounded up 700 volunteers that came on a weekly or even a daily basis to knock on doors and signs and fact sheets. Its a communityled initiative and i want to thank you for making sure that we pass the 61. 34 . [cheers and applause] thank you. And i should add, if not for the coalition, we would have never drafted family homelessness. When i started on the board, i remember when you famously sat in front of the Mayors Office in a budget deficit year and demanded we do something so houseworking mothers and parents and children sleeping on our streets. Its unacceptable. Its the largest growing demographic. It would not have happened were it not for your creative and confrontational organizing strategies at city hall. So thank you. President cohen anyone interested in making brief remarks on behalf of the coalition . Please . Come on. Only 1 minute. A brief remark. Hell o. I want to say, on behalf of the coalition, we worked really really hard. Im grateful. In the long run, we can stop this crisis. So lets give ourselves a round of applause. [applause] president cohen thank you very much and congratulations. Okay. Supervisor mandelman, get ready. You will be next. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. [applause] supervisor mandelman can i get the querr lgbtq advocate for our city our home up . Come on up. Today im recognizing the work of the amazing lgbtq advocates that passed the our city our home. In castro, prop c passed with more than 2 3 of voters. In no small measure because of the work of you folks. Thank you. Prop cs victory was not the work of politicians, but the result of a communityled effort. There are many to thank. I want it extend the highest commendation to some of those that made the victory possible. Deion jones, San Francisco aids foundation, gary mccoy, and executive director of the q foundation. I think i missed that. I missed a few folks. Its a great group. Brian in particular has committed his work to securing housing for those who need it most, particularly those in the queer community. The problems being addressed by prop c, thousands of unsheltered people, Mental Health and drug addiction crisis have disproportionate impact in our lgbtq community. Brian was there from the very beginning of the ballot measure, advocating for it in the queer community. In the days before the election, i think he was a constant presence at castro and market. In the days after, i enjoyed reading his social media posts. Citywide, nearly 1 3 of the Homeless Population identifies as lgbtq and nearly half of San Franciscos Homeless Youth identify as queer. Still, there is only one shelter dedicated to the lgbtq community. Its because of the work of people like those before us that i have hope that our city can correct course when it comes to meeting the needs of homeless queer folks and all folks having to live out on the streets. Id like to call up, i think, brian, or any of you. Come on up, brian. In my 15 years, this is the first time ive prepared remarks for the board of supervisors. First of all, thank you for recognizing the work of the individuals that came together to win prop c. Its the best campaign that i worked on. And it really is tremendous ly because of the work of jennifer readenback and sam lu. Theyre really good. [cheers and applause] as we sit here, we want to extend an olive branch to those that didnt always support us. So quickly get together to meet the number one challenge of our times. Peoples lives are on the line and this is no time for egos or politics. We must approach the road ahead with humility, focus, diligence and collaboration. Thank you, supervisor mandelman, for recognizing the contributions of the lgbtq community, to winning this effort. When we came up with prop c, i had three personal goals. One to unite the lgbtq community, especially alice, melk and bay area reporter that came together and supported prop c and to get to 2 3 in the district. And also to deliver the most number of votes in support of prop c of any district in the city. Im weird that way. I like to have goals. I like to have numbers and i like to meet them. Makes me feel good. Those of us in the community are talking about centering the leadership with lived experience of homelessness in the work we do. As a former homeless gay teenager kicked out of home at 15 1 2 for being gay, i know what it takes to survive. And know what it takes to succeed. So i want to call out Rafael Mandelman that overcame all the struggles that we talk about and you are on that side now. [applause] fortunately, ive done this work long enough that i no longer feel the need to hog the spotlight. And its really about everybody who came together and made this happen and the whole Community Coming together and gary and deion and ken jones and cleeve jones, juanita moore, San Francisco aids association, everybody thats here that made this happen. Did i leave anybody out . And courtney. And then in closing there are five communities in San Francisco that are carrying the burden of homelessness and that burden far outweighs the other burdens in the community and its the same ones that carry the burden of h. I. V. And thats africanamericans, h. I. V. Positive San Franciscos, its nativeamericans, disabled adults, and more than anybody else, transgender san franciscans. 1 in 5 transgender people in San Francisco are homeless. And i hope and pray that we will have an lgbtq census supported by this body and so that all of us can come together and really address equity in the way that we Fund Programs and not just in the way that we talk about it in headlines. Thank you very much. [applaus [applause] hi. I just want to say real quickly, i want everybody to know i found out today, unfortunately, that my neighbor, my new neighbor, who just got into housing, passed away in august. And the reason im saying this is because i deeply feel today that we failed her. We didnt get her inside quick enough. Its so imperative that we implement prop c so i dont have to come home and find out another of my new neighbors died. Thank you. President cohen thank you. Supervisor brown, your turn to honor your guests. Supervisor brown thank you. I want to thank everyone who has worked diligently to get prop c passed today. Homeless coalition, jen, we worked years and years together, mostly late at night during budget season, trying to get just a few dollars for Simple Services for homeless. And its heartwrenching. To think that were able to have this kind of funding that we can address the Homeless Population and the crisis we have just makes it feel a little bit better. But today i want to also extend my highest commendation to a district 5 resident and merchant kristin evans. [applause] are you here . Yes. And joey pistachio. She never goes anywhere without joey pistachio. Kristin wears many hats in the neighborhood. Not only is she the owner of several Small Businesses, bindery and book smith, also the president of hate as Haight Asbury association. We witnessed her advocacy at fullest capacity. Her tireless organizing to support prop c our city our home initiative, kristin is more than aware of how our housing affordable crisis is creating a dire situation for our elders, youth and family in San Francisco. While on the campaign trail, she spoke to hundreds of people to let them know. Its time to get our chroniclely homeless off the streets. Its time to make sure that kids and teens dont fall into homelessness. And its time to make sure that folks dont lose their housing in the first place. In my opinion, it was one conversation, however, that really helped turn the tide for prop c. Kristin took a big risk knowing that no one is too small or too big to care about homelessness in our city. [please stand by] i look forward to work with you and we are working on solutions. Thank you. Thank you, congratulations. Next we will hear i wanted to say it has been a journey in the first campaign. I was learning what was the challenge of homelessness in San Francisco. And through that decade of working closely with the coalition with the station and with our supervisors, i began to understand the challenges and what the Necessary Solutions are to create Real Solutions in our community. Two Women Inspired me to be personally involved in this campaign to the respect that i was. One was eileen. She is from San Francisco. Diagnosed as an mentally disabled individual. She lived on Social Security and is 60 years old. Over 90 of the Social Security income goes toward her rent now. And every year, a little bit less for her basics, whether today or clothing. She was allowed to stay in her home and have a quality life. Eileen has been struggling to meet basic needs. Another person talked about not feeling safe in the current shelter system and how we need to enter a shelter and be able to establish the way to work yourself off of the streets. I think the quality of the shelters, we can provide our Homeless Youth is something i look forward to work with you as we implement. Thank you very much. Thank you. We will hear from the supervisor who will make a presentation on behalf of the supervisor furin who is not today. There will be a pause after this. I think this is the final on behalf of the coalition. Providing services on the ground in the market. Working with you is phenomenal and it is one of the important parts of this and addressing homelessness here in San Francisco. And because of the leadership from janice and people, you brought so many celebrities who provided greater awareness on the cause and the issue as well. I just want to thank you for being one of the first to champion the prophecy. Getting the individual leaders to bring the additional funds to kickstart the campaign. And ensuring that be included by so many with poverty. We always have been able to partner with you on numerous initiatives. Whether on the Harm Reduction treatment and again long before this became mainstream conversation. Pushing Harm Reduction strategies. A your organization put together to make sure the volunteers and councillors can distribute them on the street and to recognize the center for social justice with the leadership. The initial signature gathering efforts that got our city on to the ballot. The leaders are key to successful organizing and we have seen this in the history of our country on the movement. We always had churches as part of that and we want to thank you for being part of that in San Francisco. I suppose i should say a few words in addressing gratitude and compassion. There are so many people who have been part of this. It is amazing to see the love that the city has and the concern. We look at things from t perspectives. Sometimes we get into an economic arguments. Sometimes the arguments are so far from the reality. But there are campaigns that so many people and the congregation those who take part in the services, it is a testament to the heart, a testament that what it is that draws us together around the issue. We know that the folks that we visit, they are family and these are friends. So many people have an affected. So thank you so much for recognizing this through the board. Thank you for being part of this going forward. Thank you to everybody who has been a leader in this. Thank you. We are going to take a photo. I guess i wi i will ask if th can do a quick we will take a five minute recess. Five minutes. Just five minutes. Thank you, everyone. We are resuming after the recess to allow the award recipients to take a full picture with several members of the board of supervisors. Madam clerk now that we are out and we have finished. Please remind me where we are on the agenda. Item 8. Item 8. Going back to item 8. Could you please call item 8. reading item 8 all right. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen. I want to publicly acknowledge that we had the supervisor in the chamber earlier. He was here earlier with buildings and trades. Thank you. Item 8. I would like to speak on item 8 if i may. This legislation is also known as beyond the box. It will prohibit private and post secondary institutions from asking about an applicants criminal history as well as their criminal history, means the preadmission qualities. The history will be after an admissions offer has been made and an applicant has agreed to enroll in the college. This is a continuation of the legislation that we passed here in the chamber several years ago. This legislation before us would be the first, we would be the first city to pass the legislation as relates to education. Young adults have been involved with the criminal justice system. They have an obstacle to secondary education. They need a fair chance to thrive. We should support them and join in realizing their full potential. This is what we want to see in manifest in positive Second Chances. I also want to take a moment and recognize steven sajaka. He created the Background Research for this. Thank you very much. I want to recognize all that came to us with the idea and presenting this forward. Are there any discussions you would like to take place on the item . Supervisor kim . I just want to thank president cohen for expanding. I want to add my name. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Supervisor ronan. I want to thank you for your work at the committee. There were some really compelling stories from people who didnt get into certain programs despite their brilliance and their high test scores and incredible grades because of their criminal records. And i think this is a significant piece of legislation. Thank you. It means a lot. I thank you for bringing this forward. They deserve a Second Chance. I would like to be added as a cosponsor. Thank you very much. I am touched by your acknowledgment of the important piece of legislation. Again, thank you for your work on this. If you would like, we can take this we need a roll call. We will do a roll call for item 8. roll call there are 10ayes. With that, passed on the first reading. Please call the next item. item read n thank you. Colleagues can we take the call. Passed on the first reading. Madam clerk, the next item please. Item 10 to amend the campaign conduct code to provide additional retaliation protection to establish retaliation protection from city contractors to increase the remedies available for whistleblowers who have suffered retallation and have greater confidentiality protection for identity. We have good legislation. Quite frankly, it updates the whistleblower protection policy to make it easier for whistleblowers to file their claims. And to protect their identities and their livelihoods when they report corrupt or misuse of funds. You may recall the hearing about the Africanamerican Community about concerns. They have suffered being whistleblowers in their respective departments. The version before you today reflects a delicate compromise between the department of human resources, the ethics commission, and the controlers office. I would like to thank patrick ford from the department of ethics, i want to recognize the leadership of ben wilson in the Controllers Office and susan guard and mickey callaghan. The three of those entities have been able to produce this an update to the whistleblower protection. This will result in more than just an equitable system for whistleblowers in San Francisco. I think it will also begin to help us move in the direction of restoring the whistleblower program. Seeing there are no names on the roster. I assume there are no questions. Thank you very much for your support. We will take the roll call. Passed on the first reading. Madam clerk. To amend the administrative code to authorize the commission to accept certain gifts devices and bequests of objects or other articles from the museum collection. All right. Passed on the first reading. Reading item 12. Thank you very much. We can take the same call. It looks like we can without objection. It is passed and passed on the first reading. Madam clerk, the next item. To amend the administrative code. Same call. Passed on the first reading. The next item. Item 14. item 14 read i would like to make a motion to continue this to december 11th. I will acknowledge the names on the roster. Supervisor ronen. I will second the motion. I appreciate the continuance of when i was looking into this candidate for the board, i came across a video of him hosting a program on youtube. During that show, a comment was made this is november 2017. There was discussion how to respond to tenants seeking to use section 8 certificates without risking discrimination lawsuits. And that causes me a lot of concern. I would like a little more opportunity to look into this. This has been an opinion up holding the San Francisco law prohibiting landlords from accepting the section. The law is a little different. It concerns me that we would appoint someone to the board who is trying to allow landlords to skirt the law, to the detriment of section 8. I will be looking into more until the next hearing. For that reason, i appreciate your motion for continuance today. Thank you for supporting that. Supervisor ronan. I made a motion for the record, to continue this item to december 11th meeting. Supervisor ronan seconded the motion. Without objection . Thank you. Without obje without objection. Continued. What do we have next . Committee reports. Okay. Item 1520 were considered by the budget and finance committee on november 29th and were forwarded as committee reports. Item 15 was recommended as amended with the same title. Item 15 is an ordinance to amend the environment code to require audits every three years of large generators for compliance. To establish enforcement measures, and to affirm the determination. Colleagues, i want to recognize the supervisor. Thank you. I want to give a little context for this. And thank a host of people who have worked with the ordinants for almost the past year. About ten years ago, going to 2006 and 2007, we set mandatory recycling goals and mandates. And even a few years prior, the City Department of environment commissioned that the objective of achieving the waste in the city and county of San Francisco. And set the mandatory recycling rate. The supervisor brown was working in the office at the time. Since this time, we have achieved a significant, significant amount of goals in the sense that rather than sending all of our waste to landfill the release of Greenhouse Gases and methane gas, it takes away land used for farmland or development and prevents conservation and uses the waste stream as the main source for that. We now, ten years later, with a lot of experience and a lot of data, we asked to see at that time back in the fall, if we were going to achieve our zero waste goals by 2020. It became apparent really quickly as you can imagine, that we are not going to achieve zero waste. Meaning sending zero amount of waste that is generated to landfill by 2020. We have made significant strides and achievements. I think at the time, we were still reporting a citywide diversion rate. We were far above 85 . Meaning that only 15 of the waste was still going to landfill. The last 15 is the most difficult. And so, the hearing that we had last fall, we asked to see why it is not achieving zero waste by 2020 and how we can achieve a better diversion rate on sending less to landfill. It became very apparent quickly that in that conversation, 60 of what we send to landfill is still recyclable and compostable. Meaning that although we have a Wonderful Program and we provide this in almost every corner of San Francisco, people are still putting things in the trash bin, whether they are tenants of a large building, tenants in a commercial property, hospitals, hotels, apartment buildings, universities, large generators. In that hearing, the department of environment said what are the areas we can tackle that would begin to remove what we are sending to the waste stream and landfill and tackle this. Three areas were identified. One, was construction and demolition waste. There is a significant increase in that over the last number of years. The economy has increased. People that are doing rehabilitation or rehab jobs and new construction in general, the waste is going straight to landfill. The second category, and the category that this legislation focusses on are on what we are calling large refuse generators. They produce more than the legislation. More than 30 cubic yards of waste. What does that mean . That is the equivalent of about 100 Single Family homes. 80100 Single Family homes. Who are the large generators. I mentioned some of them. They are class a large apartment buildings. Class a office buildings, excuse me. They are large apartment buildings. They are universities. They are hotels. please stand by and in many cases, in some of the Large Office Buildings and hotels and hospitals and universities and apartment buildings, it is a janitor. In other places like an Affordable Housing complex or someone on a lower scale, it could be someone with mental disabilities or mental challenges, places like tool works and Affordable Housing. Theres organizations that focus on Employment Training opportunities for those that are residents like green works. So we have multiple examples in the economy that targets this and we want to set a baseline though we already know because every one of the account holders on the list already knows their diversion rate and theres a builtin incentive to do a better job. And why are they not doing a better job . Because in many cases theyve decided the cost of doing business is doing better than hiring an individual and lets be clear, colleagues, it is an almost 100 of the cases a minimum wage job that pays for itself, helps the large refuse generat generator divert cost from their bill and we have savings we have a refuse generator and the goal and overall objective is to meet our environmental goals to be efficient as aggressively as possible to achieve now no longer zero waste, mayor breed made an announcement well be cutting our waste in half by 2030. So some of the concessions we made, we made conditions to allow for the city because it has a different hiring process than what we asked for in the legislation. We allow for the city to do their audits. After we set the baseline over a threeyear period we allow them to do their audits outside of the budget process. We allow for more flexibility for city agency to hire because the hiring process cannot meet the goals of this legislation so we worked with the department of environment aggressively over the last year to craft this legislation. We talked with the port, we talked with sfusd, with the Small Business commission and the city administrator. We talked to sfmta. We talked to almost every single entity that would be impact and made concessions and amendments. At the heart as i say in closing and if individuals have questions, im happy to answer them, we move the Effective Date back from january 1, 2019 to july 1, 2019. We allow for a threeyear period to do the audit to set the baseline and know already without doing the baseline how well almost 100 of the people are doing. I have amendments today and one last set of amendments to take into consideration. For nonprofit Affordable Housing providers and nonprofit food banks and the entity that we care deeply about in this chamber and i think supervisor peskin will agree the flower mart a consortium of many vendors is almost like a nonprofit we almost put them in to allow for the ability to two audits in this category and allow for the districtrector to discretion if theres Financial Hardship and i stated on committee and ill state again, we plan with the nonprofit food providers and Affordable Housing providers to look for grants and opportunities to look into whether its a green works or whatever the right approach is to allow them to be ahead of the game. Theres also two other categories i want to talk about outside of the large apartment hotel. The restaurant industry, once we raised the threshold, its another concession of 30 cubic yards to 40. Theres only 40 restaurants left in the mix and put them at the back of the line and the director the direction to discretion and theres ways to adjust to not have them be considered as part of the large refuse generator and that may be better education or tools. Ill end, colleagues, i think this is the right ming thing to do and we spent time at the Department Working on. We feel confident because we are compelled to do this in a very aggressive way if the camp fires and Global Warming and other things dont compel you enough, the fact this is in its heart the solution as a minimum wage job that pays for itself and saves entity money, then we feel 100 confident its the right way to go. Ill say quickly the amendments that i have and we can make a motion to accept these to allow for greater flexibility if theres a Financial Hardship and abut for and allow for the hardship for the nonprofits and thats it. Those are the two main amendments in those categories. Thank you. Im happy to answer any questions. Thank you, very much. Supervisor, i want to recognize supervisor yee. Thank you, president cohen. So my questions not about the amendments in which im more than happy to support. Through the chair i want clarification. When we talk about audits my understanding is that an audit consists of somebody from ecology taking a photo or something and that it goes through the one folder that could possibly not pass inspection and things can go wrong because of that. So can you clarify that as oversimplification. Through through the chair, if its a rolloff compacter or the other mechanism they use or the large refuse generators, they actually take it back to the plant and look at it and its not just based on photograph, they actually pour the content and go through at it significantly to look at it and we define in the ordinance the threshold which contamination is acceptable. Theres a really throw threshold for composting and recycling and higher threshold for the waste stream. In most cases theyre having three bins but on a much larger scale and its not just photograph and surface, it take a few hours. Its at no cost to the account holder, ecology does perform those. Thats one of the amendments we made. We originally wanted the amendments to happen over a twoyear period but we lengthened that out to three years. Supervisor thank you for the explanation. Thats helpful. I was guessing i was over simplifying when it was explained. I guess i appreciate your amendments for the nonprofits and flower mart and so forth. I follow your logic there. So can you explain for the chair, can you explain whats the rationale in providing that Second Chance to nonprofits versus not providing a Second Chance to the others . It boils down to economic means. Food pan tries pantry operating at losses an come for

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