In the neighborhood. Were cutting down the back yard. Were taking a two bedroom one bath house and turning it into a five bedroom four bath house. Theyre trying to disguise that its going to be multiple families by saying that they have two laundries in the house. Theres going to be a laundry upstairs and another one downstairs. I say that downstairs one, which on the original plans which i received, was called a wet bar is actually going to turn into a kitchen and be another unit. Thank you. President honda thank you, sir. Good evening and welcome. Im paula davis debella. Im at the same address of stanley. I wanted to bring up the fact that two years ago we were given plans by the owner or his agent. We had a neighbor give several comments and we never heard anything further. Until recently, which is about two years later, when we were made aware that a permit had been issued to build a much larger building. However, this time there was no effort to provide plans or to meet with neighbors to discuss plans or neighbors concerns. And i guess that was under the, you know, vetting plans to speed upper mites through originally thats what that was meant for. So we accepted it. We knew there would be a building eventually or they would try to have a building eventually. Then we just didnt hear anything. When we finally did hear something, the plans were completely changed which i think my husband eluded to. Again, there was no plan or notice to the neighbors. Well, there was some notice, i think. But there were no plans or no discussion. So we feel this type of megaconstruction, which is consistent which is inconsistent with the other houses, takes away space between neighbor, yards for kids to play in, also privacy between neighbors because its going to look right down we have a rental cottage which is very close to where they plan to build. Thats going to be impacted. Theyll have windows that can look down into our cottage in the back that we rent out and actually over to our own house which we have a tiny yard in between the cottage. The cottage is the original house in the 1800s. It was built in the 1880s, i think. We feel its very inconsistent with the neighborhood. It takes away space and also privacy between neighbors and the proximity and height of the proposed structure will also interfere with sunlight to the cottage because the kos taj is only one story high. And finally, we hope that the neighborhood is not destined to just become megamultiunit buildings. It just seems, like in our neighborhood, if one big building goes up and the building is completely changed and there are condos, we aoefr had this happen on one side of us where it was three apartments and urned into five condos and we didnt even hear about the change to that building. But, were just afraid this will be an outliar type building that it will become the normal for the neighborhood. Thats what we dont want to happen. Thank you. President honda thank you. We can hear from the permit holder. President honda good evening and welcome. Thank you. Good evening. My name is zhou xin wei. I am the owner of 2616 24th avenue. I Submit Application to do the addition back in 2015, like march. I did a site meeting during that time. I did submit the notification later. I did that. And then so theres no one protesting or complaining about my plan, therefore, i waited almost two years, little over two years for the Planning Department to approve the plan. And then so i just got the well, i never received like the brief later from mr. Debella, so i didnt know what was their concern. But based on the first appeal they filed, i think im now making the house into multiunit condo which is not allowed. Then i just the condition of the house right now is inhabitable. I would just like to remodel and move in with my family. Then mrs. Paula debella concern. Her cottage on her back yard, actually her lot is sitting a story higher than my lot. Basically even her cottage single level, but still its same high as my second story height. So after the addition, the Property Line, her Property Line to her cottage to my new addition, theres still about 42 feet of distance. And then regarding the tree or like a fence because those are existing things that i have no control over right now because i dont live there. Not that i dont want to make house better or make neighborhood better. Then therefore i guess i have no more to say. Thank you. Commissioner lazarus in the material you submitted you said i am not adding four new bedroom, existing four bedrooms and two baths. Im only adding one bedroom. But this new two bedrooms, family room and two bathrooms, two new master bedrooms and master bathrooms second floor. So which is it . Regarding that. Existing house has two, i would say like illegally has two bedrooms. Then one bathroom up stairs. Then the basement, like the first floor has two bedroom and then also a bathroom. I doesnt show on the tax record. Basically existing house has two bathroom, two bedroom, kitchen, living room, dining room and like a small family room downstairs. So im not taking away the garage. Garage still stays. So i have very long drive way. Like other neighbors how they park. Basically, im not taking up like the street for parking space. Theyre concerned about commissioner lazarus that wasnt my question. Im not interested in how many bedrooms are there now. The permit says youre adding four bedrooms. Are you adding four bedrooms . I guess so. Because the basement existing has two bedroom already. Commissioner lazarus well come back to it. Thank you. President honda thank you. Batter up. Shed some light on this. Good evening. Corey teague planning tkep staff. Yes, the Building Permit thats before you tonight was first filed in march of 2015 for a rear addition to the existing two story Single Family home and interior remodel. I think the point you made before is that legally the existing building has two bedrooms but there are two other rooms on the ground floor that may not be legal bedrooms. Maybe have operated as defacto bedrooms in the past. Depending on which number you use. Probably adds theyre adding four bedrooms. Thats obviously the number of legal bedrooms theyre adding. This project was reviewed by our staff. It did go out for a neighborhood notification in april and may of 2017. No requests for discretionary review was filed during that period. The Planning Department found the project to be code compliant consistent with the residential Design Guidelines and approved the permit in may of 2017. The issue about the potential use as mull. Units or rentals or Group Housing is an issue thats been before you before. Its not an uncommon issue that we see. As weve discussed before, this is an issue of design versus use. Its a fact that as proposed the house would have five bedrooms. Theres nothing in the planning code that equates the number of bedrooms or bathrooms to the number of units. You can have large Single Family homes. You can have small Single Family homes. We can deny a permit because the sponsor may illegally use the legally, you know, developed scope of work in a way thats not consistent with the planning code. What we do though is our planners do look for these situations where large numbers of bedrooms are being added and to try to make sure that the interior is not designed in a way that compartmentalized or other ways where it seems highly likely that it could be broken up and used by Group Housing which would be more than five unrelated persons or for illegal units. As you know, we have our rooms down bulletin, it does put restrictions on what kind of amenities and connection is required. The ground floor in this project does meet those. There was reference that the ground floor originally had a wet bar proposed and then didnt. That was probably a direct result of that Building Measure bulletin which this type of project would not allow a full bath and a wet bar on the ground floor. That would make sense. I did want to make you aware that planners are on the lookout for this issue but, again, we can deny a permit thats otherwise completely code compliant because theres the potential for the future owner to use that legal scope of work in an unpermitted way. Im available for any comments. President honda is this rh1 or 2 . This is rh1. Maximum number that should be on the site is one unit unless you could add one 80u. President honda could you explain i know this is located d7. Adu program is city wide. Its two programs. Single family homes have two options. Generally in this situation Single Family home could add one additional adu. It would essentially have to be within the same building envelope that exists to add that adu. So part of this permit could have been to come in and add an adu on the ground floor. Thats not what theyre proposing to do. If they want to do that in the future an use some portion of the addition thats being proposed, theyd have to wait until three hours after that was constructed to do that. There is potential for a second unit there as an adu in the future. They could have proposed it as an adu initially. They could have. They would have been able to come in with the existing building today. President honda okay. Thank you. Inspector duffy . Joe duffy, dbi. It was a form 3 permit that was taken in for review. It looks to be meeting the intention of the Building Code. I see that they do have a total of five bedrooms and five bathrooms when its all done. I would also warn, just warn them that if they start using it for some other use rather than its intended, used as a Single Family dwelling, that dbi could be involved in the enforcement of that as well through our housing inspection services. Lot of neighbors do get worried about these type of projects, and rightly so sometimes, but we cant look into the future. We do know it is legally a Single Family dwelling. From the plans, it does look like it meets Building Code requirements, from what i see. President honda inspector duffy, was there any permit history of illegal work being done on the garage level . I couldnt find any. Theres no complains on it either. President honda thank you. Is there any Public Comment . Seeing none well have rebuttal starting with the appellant. Im the appellants son. I wanted to start by saying good evening everyone. They were saying it was compliant with all the Building Department but i says on their website the type of building couldnt be visible from the street which the picture showed it was visible from the street. So that would not be in compliance. The owner came up here and described the number of bedrooms set by an illegal number that was not part of any plans or legal number. I think this represents more than a remodel. This is more than doubling the size of the existing home. Many of our neighbors are elderly, who are not able to make it. A couple neighbors were able to file comments with you guys. These are people who have lived there for 40 years or more. Who have described the neighborhood in one in which families grow up, grow fruit trees in their back yards and have open areas where everybody can barbecue and talk across yards. I think building this would cut off the yard an cut off a sense of that community, not to mention taking away the yards from kids. Difference in height. There is a slight difference, but its only about the height of the foundation. Maybe one or two, maybe a foot or two higher than the other. You can see the distances for how that puts everything away. Its already a congested neighborhood. Diane feinstein el menry is right across the school. Weve got restaurants that are booming and happy to see customers. This represents, even if it is a Single Family, it would be a large one. It would be a further strain on an already congested neighborhood for parking and the number of other reasons, not to mention taking away our southwestern exposure for the sun, taking away any repb of view from the cottage, blocking off lights in the windows and generally setting a dangerous precedent, one that many neighborhoods stressed would style or type buildings. What could be relative in the future is up for debate and open for whatever happens in the future. Right now we can stop that building from being the size that it is. I have no problem with, i dont think anyone has a problem be Single Family homes. What were talking about building is something that would be larger than a Single Family home. Thank you. We can have rebuttal did you want to Say Something . I just wanted to say, you know, we feel that putting in a house its just going to start a press den. There are big megahouses that have been going up in various places around the neighborhood. Soon as theres one, theres another and another. The Street Parking is just crazy. Theres just an alley thats been used by the people who live on the street. They use some of that alley that has some theres never vacant parking on our street. There never is. When we have this huge church. Weve got two restaurants on the street. Its just so dense. It is so incredibly dense there. Its gonna probably mean four more cars at the very least, six cars. One other thing id just like to mention. Maybe its not relative to this. Maybe it is. In the neighborhood where my mothers house was near San Francisco state college, there was a contractor who came in i guess and bought the house. He put in, we were told by people on the street he was putting in eight bedrooms for students at sf state. When you start this, the neighborhood is going from these houses where really truly they were family sized houses and there were yards for kids and so forth. There arent that many playgrounds around. You can come out and look can i stop you for a minute. The clock stopped. I didnt hear the bell. President honda sorry. I didnt know that either. Its because the clock stopped. We stopped the timer. But the timer is up. President honda thank you, director. We can hear a rebuttal. If you have anything further to add . Nothing further . President honda thank you. Okay. Anything further from the department . Id like to speak with planning. Deputy director is it assistant director or Deputy Director . If you dont know by now. President honda deputy dog. Weve heard a lot about max houses. We deal with this on a regular basis. This is a benefit for the people in front of us. Where are they as far as the envelope as far as their build and rear yard set back . Are they code compliant . Are they max buildout now or could they build further . Can you explain where theyre at . Sure. They are rh1. Rear yard requirement at least 20 . This has a jagged rear line, so it actually, they would have a little bit of extra space on one half of the lot to go a hair deeper. And then it has a fairly significant front set back at the front and the maximum height here is essentially 30 feet. You can do three stories here. Theyre coming close to maxing out their two story envelope, but not touching what could otherwise be permitted to put a third story. Granted, again, that would all be under review by the resident and design guideline. Theres no guarantee they could get an entire third floor, but what they are proposing is well within what is permitted. President honda generally speaking they could get a top story with a significant set back 30 , 40 . Krebg. President honda that would still be in compliance. I believe the Square Footage proposed, the home will be just under 3,000 square feet. President honda okay. Thank you. Okay, commissioner. President honda sorry. I have got one more question for the appellants. Which ever, who ever wants to come up. Just for clarity, i mean, there was 311 notification where they sent you a notification and you have the option to have a discretionary review or what we call a dr process through the planning commission. Is there any reason why you did not respond . We never got that notice. The first notice was got well, we got a set of plans in 2015. Then we got a notice of the approved permit. President honda just so you know, they will come up and explain that. When someone goes onthe envelope of their home, beyond the footprint i saw the radius. President honda theyre next door neighbors. Theyre behind. President honda okay. Theyre on 23rd. President honda okay. Maybe i can have the assistant da explain that. Would they be in the radius . Yes. On your block, you have the corners a little bit. Usually everyone right around you. President honda its 150 feet. Basically three to five neighbors on each side. The notification was conducted. I didnt have an opportunity to pull everyone there. President honda we have to assume that its a third party that handles these radius things. Its not the project sponsor. Correct. They pull the data from the records. President honda okay. Thank you. Commissioner lazarus i dont see any issues with this permit. Commissioner fung two things that were brought up. One was the site coverage which, of course, leads to the size of the building and everything. If you look at the buildings that are there, they are all larger. Have greater sight coverage than this particular project. Its cocompliant and therefore i see no basis to president honda i agree. I believe, i live on the west side as well. This is within the envelope. Theres no variances or exceptions which means that theyre building beyond what they could build. I sympathize. I go to riverside myself. But they are within the envelope of what they can build. Theyre actually building less. They could actually max this out even further. So i would concur. Would someone like to make a motion. Commissioner lazarus i move to deny the appeal. On that motion to deny the appeal and issue the permit on the basis that it was properly issued, Vice President fung . Aye. President honda. Aye. Commissioner wilson . Aye. We are on the last item, item ten. Anne mcateer and margret ruxton. 294129 29412943broderick street. New deck at fourth floor, removing exterior back stair, install new stair, mechanical electrical and sprinkler under separate permits. President honda we are going a fire wall has all been part of the design plan and repeatedly rejected by