is retaining quality teachers. i'm going to let you read the rest of this, but this is key. these teachers are our community. as i heard you ask how many streets don't have street cleaning, a number of them. in the zone, these are the ones without it. they are flat streets as well as ones with hills. it -- prospect and winfield do not. mirabel does not. industries streets need street cleaning and enforcement. >> thank you. thank you next speaker, please. >> clerk: nicky vanderwallen. is nicky here? no? okay. is desna lurotic here? is nick miliotis here? >> yes. >> is linda kitlitz here? >> hi. thank you. i wanted to say -- change what i was going to say and address something mr. wilson said and that gary mentioned, and that is the big orange line and how the process of this rpp was implemented with the petition and all. and that is we did not know about it -- i did not know about it until the meeting of april 19th, which was at the flynn school. and we were brought in there, and we were told yeah, you can oppose it. i oppose it, and the majority in that orange -- on the orange streets oppose it. and you can all oppose it, but this is happening any way to the streets that already have the petition, and you have no say on it. the only thing you can do is vote on your own street, even though you are going to be impacted by those few streets having the rpp. and then, people who are in favor of this petition started gathering more people, and the people from the other streets started to be fearful that they are going to have the back lash, so i want you to take that into consideration. thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> clerk: nick milianis, followed by debra kitlits and debra porter. >> members of the board. my name is nick, and i live on folsom. we've all heard the rum bles that the board has, 100% approval bl approval. i think the motion bringing the rpp to or not bernal heights i think it boils down to two points. one, the majority of people do not want rpp. the data survey were less than 15 blocks out of 144 surveyed voted in favor. data study two is by the study of parked cars. over 70% of the cars are people that live in a close proximity. that stretches to noe valley. that also stretches one block away from my car. i fall into that.25 radius. instituting rpp in bernal will pit neighbor against neighbor. it is negatively affect caregivers, teachers, make no mistake about that. it will be fix the traffic problem in this city. there are too many people with too many cars in too small of an area. the data shows that we don't want it. the data shows that despite the feelings of the vocal minority, we don't need it. vote against the proposal to show that you're listening to us, and let's work together to seek alternate solutions. thank you for your time. >> thank you for your time. debra porter and then denise jones, and they can lineup over here. >> i'm linda kitlitz. i live at 28 coleridge. i've lived there 28.5 years. when i moved there, i didn't have the need for a garage because there was lots of street parking, and i don't have a garage. and my house has historical value, therefore, i cannot build a garage, okay? even if i had the money, i can't. so i just wanted to point out that i'm in a block, 193, that has not been approved for parking permit, and i think one of the main reasons is that across the street, the address 190 coleridge, belongs to an apartment building housed by, i believe, majority seniors older than me, and i am a senior. any way, people that did not vote on the parking permit -- and that building, i don't know what the deal is. i don't know why they did or did not vote, but that's hurt my block in voting. i do want the parking because i see hundreds of cars in the past 28.5 years load up on my street. i see cars park there anywhere from five days until two weeks until the street cleaning takes place. and other neighborhoods in the city have parking permits. they work it out. we can work it out. we can get permits for the teachers and the nonprofits; whatever we have to do to work with them. i'm in favor of working with them, but we need parking permits. i'm in favor of it, i want it. i'm tired of not being able to find parking often, and i came here today on muni. thank you. >> thank you very much, miss kitlitz next speaker, please. >> debra porter. >> hi. i'm debra porter. i live on mirabel. i lived there since 2002. prior to that, i lived on bryant street, and i hate residential parking. i argued against it in my neighborhood because i know o what it does on the border, but we are desperate in this situation. these discussions have been going on on mirabel before this started. we've had to park our cars at precita park late at night. i want to commend hank especially because he has helped us immensely. we never wanted to impact the teachers, of course, and i believe that if you'd look at why our neighbors in the area, it's the ones close to mission street. we have a lot of issues over there. the rest of bernal, obviously, wouldn't need it very much, so i think you've got to take that into consideration. and i know we're all committed to finding accommodations for anybody. that's the way our block is. i mean, it's a village, so if there's any way to help the teachers and the nonprofits, we'll find a way to do it. and i'm serious about that. and i really want to back the idea, when hank described to us what kind of headaches have you to go through to get this citywide reform done, it's scary to think how long it should take to get this done. it's really never been a great solution. it's really a weird block-by-block warring situation, and i think if you look at all these creative ideas that people have come up with, we could work those in. so that's my for. i'm for the rpp. >> thank you, miss porter. next speaker, please. >> denise jones, robert vic -- vickers, and emily lavitt. >> good afternoon, my name is denise jones. i'm opposed to this particular aspect of the parking permits because there aren't enough spaces. paying $126 a year is not going to create more spaces to park. thank you. >> thank you very much, miss jones. next speaker, please. >> clerk: robert vickers, emily laughback. >> good afternoon. thank you for letting me speak. i'm a resident of shotwell street. i'm also a lyft driver. since i've been driving for lyft four years and living in the bernal heights area, i have driven to our neighborhood. over 100 cars that were parked in our neighborhood. in other words, i'd come home from the airport with a passenger and drop them off, and they'd pick up their car. i've had cars parked in front of my house for over a week. it's very difficult to get those cars towed. it goes on and on and on. i've been a part of this process since its inception. we do need permit parking. and i do feel for the teachers and the nonprofits. i think we can work out a situation to take care of their needs. we also have in the next year, 342-plus new employees of st. luke's hospital and they'll be looking for places to park. i wish you're right when you say, joel, that we are getting away from cars, but i can't tell you how many my milennial are moving to san francisco with cars. i can show you 100 cars in my neighborhood with expired tags. i've been doing my own research, and i believe his research back there is skewed. he doesn't want it. our neighbors have gone out there and done the work, and it is time for our neighbors to get permit parking and take care of the teachers and nonprofit. >> thank you, next speaker, please. >> hello. there's a couple things i want to say. i have, in the past, lived in a neighborhood in cole valley where i was in a block that didn't have the permitted parking and all around me did, and i would spend 45 minutes to an hour routinely looking for parking. i don't want that to happen again. i've lived in bernal heights now for 12 years. i'm also on the block of coleridge that is just outside. we're within the orange lines, but our block has been told from communications from your department on these maps -- i've seen several versions of this map, and with some versions, our block has been included, and some, we haven't voted, so the communications have been really bad about what's doing -- happening. i have been talking to a woman named cathy steadwell from your office, who's told me that no one has gone into meet with people. i am a two -- two houses away from esmeralda, so this is going to affect the parking all around my house, and i am two houses outside the area that voted, and i won't be allowed to have a residential parking permit. so it's really going to affect my individual parking. i don't think this has been done right. i do think we need residential parking in my neighborhood, but i want to be able to petition to get a residential parking permit myself because i'm two doors down from where it's happening. and i just want to be able to have that included in this whole vote, as well. thank you. >> thank you, next speaker, please. >> john schmidt, robin hubinski, and vanessa baum. >> i have one question, and that is as the permit process continues and it is -- it is implemented, what are the -- what's the -- what is two reverse it if the parking situation does not improve? this was a question that was asked of me, and i wouldn't even know how to address it because as the parking permit gets put in place, and the residents find that it hasn't solved the problem, that can i reversed? i'm against permit parking. >> thank you. i'll be sure to ask that problem. next speaker, please. >> hi. robin hubinski. 44 mirabel. i am wholeheartedly for approving the rpp. i certainly hear the peripheral neighbors talking about the fact that their blocks are not included in the original 15 blocks that we have done. we've been canvassing. we've met way more than three. we've had hundreds of hours on committee. we've worked with staff. we've met the criteria. if you look at your application process, there was a basis line of what we had to do. i have no street cleaning, i have no permit parking. i'm 14 minutes to 24th street b.a.r.t. station. just to put a radius in perspective, you can't see it to the west, would be delores, to the east would be 28th street to the mission, over to holiday street to the east and then over to crescent area in the south, so it's a fairly large street, so neighbors -- somebody on crescent isn't my neighbor. they're not dealing with my issue. i think it's really important because what i'm hearing is the teachers and the nonprofit, and i hear that, but why is that our bernal heights problem? the reality is if you look at your district maps, district z, i, and w are on the north side of cesar chavez. the elementary school that flynn -- that we're talking about is directly across the street from the i zone. let's look at that and see if we can give the teachers that portion. but the nonprofit that they are talking about at cesar chavez is directly across from the i zone. why does bernal heights have to be the person that bears the flynn and the nonprofits? there are three other jurisdictions that have been restricted to those teachers and nonprofits. look to the whole neighborhood, and it's easier to get them on those processes and those permits than it is to exclude us. that's your permit, that's your map. that is your map. they're right there. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> vanessa baum, kathrin art, and judith. >> i work with the central american resource center. our executive director, larissa quadro-dugan wanted to be here, but we couldn't. we are one of several nonprofits and community serving organizations in that area, including mission assert fund. the city's own mission, several schools and someone mentioned leonard flynn. we are very concerned that introducing hourly parking in this section of bedroom heigrn will negatively impact our clients that receive services in the area, including child care services, basic needs assistance among other needs. many of our employees work in the area are former san francisco residents that were pushed out and unfortunately have to commute to san francisco. they're part of a growing trend of gentrification, that you can't pay the high rents and have to move out of san francisco, just like our teachers. so it would be very difficult for us to do our job if we were forced to abide by the two-hour limit parking, just like teachers can't leave the class to repark their car. we understand that this is a complicated situation, and it's very heard warmit warming to ht residents are trying to find solutions t solutions for nonprofits and working schools. there's no public parking place for us to park, and even if there was, we couldn't afford it. so please really consider the parking situation in bernal heights. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> clerk: kathrin art followed by judith, and then henry velasquez. >> my. my name is cath lykathrin art. i'm a 30 year resident of bernal heights, and i'm a fourth generation san franciscan. i jumped on the coat tails earlier of the mirabel people. it was enthusiasm for winfield street. it's a one way street that has parking on one side. before me, my mom was struggling to park in a precar, you know, house that probably will never get a garage, also. and we have no street sweeping purposely because there's no other side of the street to move your car to, so there's just no place to park if we had street sweeping, so street sweeping is not a solution for us, at all. i don't have a lot more to say, except i'm really looking forward to it happening, and i think it would be beneficial to a large portion of bernal heights. and as far as the teachers are concerned, i'm sympathetic, and i would hope that we can look to some of the process of developing parking for teachers, even though we're still moving to other resources. we're building more housing with fewer parking spaces that are coming in and going to encroach on bernal heights. you've got a school yard, we've got an underground parking space there for staff. just a thought. thank you. >> thank you very much, miss art. next speaker, please. >> henry velasques, and then ruth landry who's the last person to fill out a speaker card. [ inaudible ] >> if you'd like to fill out a speaker card. is mr. velasquez here? no? all right. miss landry. >> good afternoon, board and mr. reiskin. i live at the corner of mirabel street, at the intersection of coso, mirabel, and lundy's lane. i can see all the traffic issues that have faced our neighborhood which i've known for many years. i just want to go on the record as saying it kind of breaks my heart to see good people pitted against each other over this issue in a process that's been very involved. we have one of the most progressive zip codes in our city, and i think we would all make whatever effort we can to make sure that teachers, etcetera, and nonprofits can afford to keep living and working in our neighborhood. i do want to go on the record as supporting the permit parking as the best based attempt in an imperfect world that we're living in. i just want to speak to the traffic testifying in our neighborhood. the red carpet made things worse. it's also the ride sharing in other things. we did write there reiskin about this in august of 2016, and we have been collaborating with his team members and staff since then to see that our calming efforts are addressed. just to say despite that dialogue, we have seen very few concrete things happen in the last 18 months. there is no speed limit sign, which we've asked for as people speed up the hill, and we are committed to vision zero, and we would like to work, we encourage you, with vision zero to work on -- >> thank you. thank you very much miss landry. >>-for our community. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hi. my name is lynn. i don't live in bernal heights, but i have an idea for a solution for the teachers and nonprofits. that would be to use alomeni parking lot and other parking lots across from the tile store to house the cars from the school and nonprofits and then have a shuttle bus that would go around bayshore boulevard up cesar chavez to drop the teachers off at classes. and i don't know how municipal transit would work, but i know that megabus and all these -- google and twitter, they have buses that drop people off and pick them up. so i can't see why there can't be a fund through municipal transit or through the schools or the nonprofits or even through the rpp, people pay a little extra money to support a van that would pick the teachers up and drop them off. but there are two huge parking lots and quite a bit of available space for cars. thank you. >> thank you very much, lynn. >> clerk: do i have anymore people wishing to make public comment on this item. if so, please come up to the podium. if not, there will be our last member of the public to comment. >> my name is karen cohen. i live at 698 mirabel. i agree with the parking permits. i want them to happen. our neighborhood has become a parking lot for the surrounding areas of the city as stated by hank. he used to park his car there when he went away on vacation. so many people park their cars in our neighborhood when they go on vacation. people that live on the other side of cesar chavez park their car there because they don't want to deal with the permit parking there, and leave it there for weeks. this is a dig issu-- big issued it's affected our parking in the neighborhood. i'm sympathetic to all the teachers and nonprofits and everything, but we need a solution. something needs to be done, and that's it. thank you. >> thank you very much, miss cohen, and that looks like it was our last member of the public to comment, so i'll go ahead and close public comment. now comes the fun and hard part. director ramos, i look forward to the future you envision where we don't have such high car ownership, and we don't have meetings like this where we're pitting neighbor against neighbor for care curb space that's very, very valuable. so i think i'll go ahead and open it up to our vice chair and directors. >> i would say shame on young hank wilson, but you handled it with grace. i would say thank you to older hank wilson. generally, when we talk about community outreach, there isn't a smattering of applause. let me tell you where i am on this issue. mr. vickers and moore who explained need for the rpp in this district have convinced me that this is a program we need in this district. i am generally a fan of the rpp. it does have its flaws, but it does solve the goal of long-term parking. i want to follow up on something our chair said -- one of our fellow citizens asked the fair question of what happens if this does not work. my understanding is we can appeal this in much 9 same process as we put it in. so if at some point down the road, we, after putting in zone aa, realize that it wasn't solving the problem, it was just pitting neighbors versus neighbors, we could either repeal it or if those people on the borders see that it would benefit them to be a part of it, we woucould expand that. is that fair to say? yes, and the process and thresholds would be the same. we would generally bring you a recommendation to resint cind add based on the majority of the neighbors on the block. >> i'll ask you, current hank wilson to standup. i don't want to say old because you're still very young. we'll go with current. my personal focus is on the school and the teachers and the nonprofit and the employees, and to hear that 71% of the teachers at that school are driving in, you know, means that they've looked at all the options and they have chosen that as the most viable for them, and i'm obviously particularly concerned about making sure that our teachers still feel welcome in this city and still have a way to come to school, especially since a suspect a lot of them do not live in the city for expense reasons and need to drive here from the peninsula or other places. so here is why i see these two concerns as particularly different. our primary concern is to keep, again to call on you young hank wilson and mr. vickers and customers from parking their cars for long amounts of time and keep them there, for whatever reason, the employees of a nonprofit and the teachers of a school are different. and i suspect that what they're going to do if they're parking in this zone is just come out and move their cars, which means you have classrooms unattended for a little bit of time, you have a nonprofit reception desk that's going unstaffed so people aren't getting the -- the need -- the services that they need, and we're not solving any traffic problems. they're still parking -- and in fact now we just have rotating traffic in the neighborhood, and that's not a good thing. my first question to you is does an rpp area kneneed to be contiguous. could you simply make the school and nonprofit a part of the new zone so they could get some ration of permits that they could use for their people? and my second question would be, to get real technical on this, is can a school -- which i suspect is part of a block -- at least that school -- be a part of two zones, so that you could designate the school part of zone i and zone aa such that the school would get a ration of passes from both zones, and you sort of split up the parking burden as actually one of our last speakers suggested? >> so -- actually, i should note that five years ago, hank wilson donated that car, so that's why i don't -- >> young hank wilson is redeemed. now all eyes are on current hank wilson. >> so with that delay in place, so to speakanswer your first question, i don't believe it's in the transportation code that an area has to be contiguous, but that has been our practice. typically, that's what we do. we don't -- you know, there's not a lot of -- usually, there's the -- the reasons things are contiguous, we are locating something that's near a parking or traffic generator, and as you get farther away from that, the sort of desire of outsiders to park and walk dissipates, and so at a certain point, you can cut the area off because it's so far that people aren't going to park there and walk to the hospital or university or b.a.r.t. station or whatever. but i think it's possible to make it a noncontiguous area. policy-wise, it would be a challenge to justify that, at least in terms of the impact on people walking to traffic generators. if the overriding policy is we want to make sure teachers are taken care of -- >> that's one of my main policy concerns, i'll be clear, and this is not a situation where we're worried about teachers coming in and leaving their cars for seven days while someone takes them to sfo. this is a situation where the teachers are probably going to naturally trade places with the residents who are going off to work and leave their cars overnight, so i think there's a bit more of a nexus here, and i'm just looking for a way to solve this. i don't want to delay the rpp program. i am, you know, sort of swayed by the residents. they've gone through the process, they've been complimentary to you, but i think we have two places of employment, one, a school that need to be addressed in this, and i'm looking for some way to do that. i don't hear the residents saying this school is the problem. i don't hear the residents saying i'm mad because the teachers are parking in front of their house. they're upset about other people, so i'm just looking if there's a way to do this together, and that, to me, seems one approach that might work. divvying up the passes amongst the various nearby zones so that the teachers aren't leaving their classes and the nonprofits aren't leaving their desks every two hours. >> i was going to note that in my notes. one of the reasons that flint hasn't already been included is the transportation code the school has to be within the rpp area, and the school is not. but if we adjust the rpp area so that it is within, then i think you're meeting the letter of the law. i think i have the map -- the proposed map up on the screen here. it might be useful to have that up for reference as we're talking about. so flynn is at the eastern corner of precita park, and all of the area east of that would remain unregulated in this proposal. anything you see in blue would remain unregulated. your second question, can a school be a member of two? typically, we don't do that, but what we have done, we have buffer zones, and you'll see them especially in the northeast area of the city where, you know, no parking except areas a and c for a couple blocks in either direction so that if you have an area a permit, you can only get the area a permit, but that allows you to park a couple blocks west of where the line is. >> so i appreciate the precedent, but as far as you're aware, there's no legal restriction for us divvying passes for multiple zones to those teachers provided we address it some way that you've talked about. there's no legal restriction on the school being in two zones or in one zone and a buffer zone for another? >> i don't -- i don't think so. and again, the buffer zone would be -- is just more of an administrative -- this is for ease of use of the people who have -- [ inaudible ] >> i'm sorry. please, member of the public hold on. [ inaudible ] >> no, i'm sorry. mr. wilson is answering questions right now. thank you. >> so where i am and subject to the comments of my fellow board members and i'm always loathe to do things on the fly without considering it is i would favor consideration of adoption of the aa zone. i think we should look at ways as quickly as we can to see if they're feasible -- see if we can address them with one of those solutions, and then, finally monitor this, just to the questions that i asked of director reeiskin. if this isn't working, we need to rescind it. if it is, and what i suspect is the neighbors on the border are going to start saying we want to be in it, and it makes sense to grow it, then, we'll grow it. but that's going to take some time, and i think the school and the nonprofit issue need to be addressed sooner than that. >> thank you, vice chair heinicke. that is very helpful. yes, director ramos? >> yes, and i also want to reflect my support for the proposal. i empathize with the comments made by the residents that came down today. i live in a zone of the city that is not -- does not have an rpp, and it is -- i can empathize with the suffering and really the pain expressed by people like miss porter and others. it's terrible when you can't park on the street or anywhere near your street because the parking -- because i literally -- i, too, see it. i see people drive in from outside of my community and leaf the leave their cars for days on end. and i wonder why my neighbors haven't done it. if i wasn't a member of this board, i probably would myself, but that's a conversation for another day. i emphasize the chair's comments, recognizing the reason why we have a transportation crisis is because we have a housing crisis. the fact that etch at thatters can't leave here is a bigger problem than this agency can solve. i work for a nonprofit. i never drive to my nonprofit, even though i run around. i'm an organizer. i've got several meetings i've got to get to a day, but the parking situation is catastrophic for those of us that don't have the privilege and the luxury but need to be able to park near where we live. so we have a mess, and i think that this is a step in the right next. i'm going to support it. i think that the way that we accommodate the schools and the nonprofits has to be comprehensive because what we do here also we have to think about how it impacts the hospital and another neighborhood or the community college and another neighborhood or whatever it's going to be. it is going to have citywide implications. so i think we have to be looking comprehensively at whatever situation we have. i don't think it's fair to dump all of the teacher permits and nonprofit permits on this residential zone. when there are others that have been dumping their fair share of the burden onto the under regulated zones up to now. so i would like to support that we move forward on this. but i also want to make sure that we direct staff -- and i'd love to make this a motion as part of the legislation that we pass, that we direct them to come up with a comprehensive solution to addressing the parking needs of the teachers and the nonprofits, who we do value and cherish and want to support as best as we can within the means accessible to us. we can't build more housing, although we need to build more housing in this city. did i say that already? but i do think that ultimately we need to be able to look at this comprehensive, so i think the talking fparking for teach nonprofits goes beyond that zone. i did have one question, and that is if i wasn't clear earlier in my comments, i want to make sure that somebody can't sell their permit to the highest bidder. these permits are going to be worth a lot of money to people who have car collections or whatever, but i want to be able to make sure we have a system in place where people aren't going to be able to sell their permits. if you can speak to that. >> we have people that issue the permits, and they do a great job to make sure there's minimum amount of fraud as possible. they have -- there's a lot of requirements -- paperwork that you have to fill out. you have to submit -- for the most part, you have to submit paper files so that you can't scan things and alter them. and a lot of the fraud prevention is everything is done by mail on purpose because you actually have to be living in that place that you say you're living and to receive that permit and put it on your car. if you're trying to get a permit, and the permit is mailed to mirabel street, you'll never get it. that's not the only fraud prevention we have. i can't speak to it in detail, but that's a major focus of ours. >> the permit is license specific. it's not just something you can't hang on your rearview mirror. it actually coming to a specific car with a license plate on it. >> and then i just want to make sure it's clear as we transition into a newly regulated zone that we do give people somewhat of a grace period before we just start hitting everyone with tickets. i would like to hope that the residents would have a little bit of a grace period to allow for some of us that are going to have to change our ways to accommodate the new regulation. >> that's standard practice for our enforcement team whenever we have new parking regulations. we're saying, in 19 -- you know, in current san francisco rather than young san francisco of 1976, things have changed, and we need a lot more -- we need a more comprehensive solution. we need to make sure everyone has a seat at the table when we're creating these zones, because it's not creating more parking for residents, it's about addressing all the transportations needs of the community. it's a tall order to come up with that comprehensive solution, but we're working on it. >> thank you, mr. wilson. >> thank you. >> i have a quick questions. there's a few residents that mentioned their across the street neighbors, they didn't feel they were part of the process, and thank you so much for the awesome report, and it sounds like the involvement of the community was extensive. i'm just wondering what's why you are advice to the residents if they see their process working and they want to get their street -- can it be half a street like that? >> well, we don't particularly do half blocks, but if you live on a block that has parking on one of the side, we're not going to hold that against you. you can still join the zone, and i think there probably are some in the zone, like fair and powers. bernal, it is unique. it's hard to tell sometimes what's one block. some blocks are a lot longer than others, but typically, we use the address range. if you're in the 100's or the 200's, you're a block. and i think this is where the sort of resident driven part of this comes in that it's not -- we haven't taken it as our job as sfmta staff to go out and gather signatures. >> you have to talk to their across the street neighbors. >> right. essentially, if you really want it on your block then you're going to have to go talk to your neighbors and gather the significants. it is not our role. we're trying to be arbitors rather than advocates. >> to be clear, i am in support of the project. i think you've done a good job in balancing competing interests. i'm interested in the solution for the nonprofit and the teachers in the area? so i'm curious about the timeline. assuming this board approves the project today, what is the timeline for this going into effect, and at what point do you think is reasonable for staff to come back for a solution for the teachers and the nonprofit? >> so there's the 30-day hold. if this board passes it, nothing goes in effect for 30-days. i a and i think there is he aa decent process of notifying everybody. we've got to send out a letter saying rpp has been approved for your block. if you want to buy it, here's what you into he had to do and what you need to submit. and then we need to order the permit. that's i think at least a three-month process. while that'si happening, the sign shop can go out and install the signs. it's probably four to five months before things are up and running, and i think you would want to wait a little bit longer than that to see how people have adjusted to the parking changes and adjustmented their driving patterns or parking patterns. so then we'd want to wait -- i guess if it takes four to five months to install and then three months to settle, that's eight months out, and then we'd need another two months or so to put together an analysis of whether things are working. i think i just added up that's about ten months, maybe a little more, to be safe. >> that's not ten months to evaluate the teachers, that's to evaluate the whole program. i think what director rubke is saying, on those two particular issues, we need to be quicker. >> i think for the school issue, your proposal of just bringing in flynn, that's pretty straightforward. that's a -- that's a fairly straightforward parking and traffic change to say this parcel will be part of rpp area aa. whether that is going to be satisfactory for flynn is another question. there's a limit of 15 permits for teachers. there are no permits for staff, for people who are noncertified teachers. i don't know whether that's going to answer all their issues. and then, for the nonprofit, they could also be included. they could be granted orl r eligiblity. that's a fairly routine process, but then, they would be entitled to permit. there's nothing that exists in 905 for large companies or large businesses. >> i think the director, rather than you and i try to work this out in real-time, at least in the sense of the board, those are issues we would like addressed. i'm going to vote in this program today, this zone, excuse me, today, with the expectation that the folks from the school and the folks from the nonprofit are going to have a second chance to figure out something. and if it means you've got to put the school into two zones to increase the amount of permits. i realize other schools may come and ask for that, there's a lot of thinking here. but i personally am not willing to let those two areas go. i think there's got to be some creativity here. to bring it back to where director rubke started, i don't think that's a ten-month process. i think that's a quicker process. >> if i could, i think the timeline that hank laid out means first of all, the school will not necessarily be impacted this school year, right? school will be out in mid-june, and it sounds given this timeline, that's about how long it would take to get this up and running. the schools and the nonprofits, there's a long time before the impact is even there. what we can do immediately is start discussions with the school, with the nonprofits on what the variety of solutions are. it may be that there are solutions that aren't residential permit parking. that's not the only tool in the co toolkit to have these discussions. we can have discussions more broadly about how their staff and students get to school. we can focus on these discussions for flynn and some of the other nonprofits there. it's something we can do very much in parallel. i think we won't know what the impact of the initiation of rpp will be until it happens, but that doesn't mean we can't start conversations immediately with them to understand what issues there are, where folks are coming from, how long they need to park so that we can work with them to come up with solutions that may be the solution of let's fold some of them into rpp or there may be other solutions. i think if that ends up being the direction of the board, we can start those solutions in short order. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> i just want to say thank you for this work. i do support kind of what director heinicke put forward in terms of direction and taking care of the school and nonprofit and also look at a larger strategy around schools, i think citywide, because it's not going to be a unique situation. >> thank you very much. >> director? >> i very much like the idea of saying at the least, we just put it into the rpp program, and we can always come up with more solutions to expand the number of permits for teachers. >> thank you all directors. very good discussions. mr. wilson, if i could just clarify a couple of things -- a couple just for educational purposes, but one. st. luke's hospital, i think a few people brought that up, it's going to be another traffic generator. does or will st. luke's have a transportation management plan that will help address those concerns. >> i don't know that. i know they're building this new building, and i don't know what sorts of requirements we have or the city has in terms of -- >> i know the development -- this is part of cpmc, and the development agreement for cathedral hill has a very strong and robust requirements. i believe that development agreement covered -- and you may recall from your planning commission days. >> it did. >> all of their master plan which did contemplate the changes at st. luke's. i don't know offhand, but i believe there may be some from that development agreement that would include some of those as well. >> for those of you that don't know, the transportation management plan helps the traffic attractor to attract less traffic by helping employees and visitors figure out another way to get there instead of just driving a private car. which brings me to the number of people in that area that own cars. 80% of the residents own cars, and as we all know from previous presentations, and director ramos has touched on this, a private car spends 96% of its time parked somewhere, so i'm guessing these cars spend 96% of their time parks on their home streets or at work. this is why we have all of these discussions, and i hate to see cars cause neighbors to turn on neighbors. that is not what we want. hopefully, this rpp can help facilitate that a little bit. i appreciate residents who say i want the rpp, and we can figure out a way to work with the nonprofits and the schools. if # wi80% of the residents ow cars, you can see -- we're seeing a point where fewer and fewer households are choosing to own cars. a lot of the new residents who move to san francisco are not bringing a car with them. the needle it tippis tipping, s slow. it's not overnight. we need everyone to look at their car ownership and usage, and their neighbor's car usage and ownership. we're making it easier to bike, to walk, to take transit. easier to use all kinds of different modes, so i want to thank you all for coming down, thank you for being involved. mr. wilson, thank you and your staff for working on this. you've done a good job. we're going to get to the point where there's not such a crunch in parking. director ramos and i cannot wave a wand and suddenly turn 60% of the city no noncar household, although we would like to very much. thank you for your presentation. we're done withmen comments, we done with questions. we can just approve it as is, and staff will come back to us with a solution as they work with the teachers and the nonprofits. do i have a motion? >> yes. >> second? >> second. >> again, all the ayes? any opposed? thank you mr. wilson for coming down and for your work. >> if everybody could be a little quiet, we're still working through our agenda. we're presenting on item number 12. >> hello. good afternoon. my name is casey hildreth. >> mr. hildreth. >> your title. >> i am a senior planner with the mta livable street section. thank you today for your time and consideration of modifications to the upper market safety project. the upper market safety project is a multifaceted multiphased commitment to safety along the upper market corridor from castro to octavia boulevard. the first set of changes and improvements were approved by this board in 2015, many of which were approved for full civil changes a part of our packet that came before this board in may of 2017. the bulk are pedestrian safety measures as well as changes to turn restrictions and bike lane improvements. so one of the key aspects that was approved back in may was a two block stretch of parking protected bike way between octavia and cannon. at the time, we thought we'd put together a sufficient package of parking changes to accompany the bike way, but there was some ongoing concern raised by the fire department around how they could access those blocks with that configuration. and i believe when that package was approved, this board encouraged us to continue working through those issues with the fire department. subsequent to may, in july, there was an appeal of the ceqa determination of the project, which was denied by the board. and since july, up through the end of the year, we were in discussions and negotiations with several stakeholders, including the fire department, to come to resolution. in late -- late november , early december, there was a break through in those discussions which centered around just trying to make sure that people are close to or in those vehicles at all times, so moving to a -- sort of a loading only compromise for the market street corridor. so since that time, since that was communicated, our team put together a package of changes and did our best to communicate with each and every business along the affected blocks, as well as trying to reach as planmany residents as possible in a short period of time. we feel that now that we have a solution, we want to move as quickly as possible to implement these safety changes, given the corridor to be a long-standing line on our high injury network map. so those changes, as i mentioned, include converting the parking that is on market street associated with the bike way to loading only. so that's 24-7, both passenger and some commercial loading that exists. our previous pang was a mix of metered zones, load zones, both passenger and commercial. so with the change, we wanted to bring also some mitigation for that loss of metered parking because we do know there is some demand for longer parking on the streets, so we've taken this opportunity to come back to the board with some lood zones that support the bike way, but some parking adjacents to the market street corridor. it's a one-to-one match in terms of what was approved versus what we're bringing forward now in the modifications. the spaces on the side streets that would be impacted with the new meters include a mix of residential permit parking, our area s, which we know is quite tight. so we do think it is in support of our city's and department's goals to implement that parking. if these changes are approved, we are committed to moving forward as quickly as possible, as well as to implementing the metered parking to support the businesses. so what i have here just on the side panel here is a cross section that was included in the flier that we gave out and discussed with the corridor businesses and residents. the actual change -- there's really no change to this diagram, but i will say that with these changes, we are able to not only tweak the parking to accommodate our emergency first responders, but also we've been able to tweak this design slightly to just make it a better design overall, so there's actually better physical protection for the bike way. there's some smaller changes that can make this more accessible for folks that need to get to and from the passenger load zone. so each of the three block faces has this configuration with very generous load zone, 8 foot wide. it accommodates all types of vehicles, multiple vehicles. i'll flip over this flier just to show the proximity of the metered parking to the market street corridor, so you can see that -- and those are the red with the metered spots proposed. the yellow lines with the corridors that are affected by the bike

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