>> thank you very much for allowing me to walk you through, excuse me, the nomination. most of the purpose of this is to show you some photos, as you'll hear the planning department didn't receive the photos. and probably all of you could have written three quarters of the nomination from what you know about the building. i'm not going to bother reading off all the bullet points here about the building. and really just try to concentrate on the photos. this is the entry portal which unfortunately in the '60s was modified and removed. it is a still character-defining feature. here's the building when viewed looking west on golden gate avenue. these are two of the most important character defining interior spaces above this. a men's gym and below in the basement is the swimming pool. the carpeted area in blue carpet. it covers the swimming pool, which is still there because tndc didn't need a swimming pool and could'nt operate one. this is the main lobby on the second floor looking down the grand stair toward golden gate avenue. in the 1960s, the building was redone and the stair was taken out and the opening from the ground floor was floored over, if any of you remember it. it was kind of like going into a basement off golden gate avenue. this was restored by the projected tndc did in 2012. these are just some views of the rehab. that is the main window you saw from the other side on golden gate avenue. this is the original boy's entrance on leaven worth building. there isn't anymore an adult and children's programme because now it is housing for formerly homeless people, 174 units. and this is one of two stairs up from the second floor to the third floor in the main atrium lobby. one of them had been removed during that earlier remodel and was reconstructed. this is just some of the character defining features. the italian renaissance revival. here you see the cornice, which like so many in town is made of sheet metal. this is the second floor up from the boy's entrance. the building has a number of character hfl defining circulation spaces that survive. that is the sky light in the atrium lobby on the second floor. and this is the auditorium which has a flat floor, i think, for flexibility of use. but is otherwise quite a remarkable auditorium and that is the caoelg looking back at the balcony, at the back of the auditorium. these next four images didn't go in with the national registration, but we all love historic images so i thought we would throw them in. this is, i believe, a typical hotel room when the building was first completed. and here we have the gym with the kind of exercise activities the y offered. and there is the pool. in use. and anyone who's alive in the 1970s and '80s that see this, even though it wasn't in this building. i did want to address the staff comments. the nomination concentrated on the areas of significance that differentiate this building from other ymcas and that's what drove the emphasis. and just so you unls where we are in the process today, the nomination originally went to o.h.p. in sacramento last april and by about september-october, the revisions with the staff historian were completed and it's scheduled for the february 2 resources commission meeting. [bell ringing] i found out last week about the planning department staff comments and you're now hearing this and any comments you make will then go with the staff comments to the historic resources commission and the historian there will consider them. so, we're on a very tight timeline. and i would like you to know that. and as some of you may know, approved nominations ready for action -- [bell ringing] jockeyed for position on agendas as a state historic research commission and tndc did this nomination voluntarily as a property owner. they are a nonprofits housing developer, as you probably know. the executive director don faulk, is aware of this review. and he said he's hoping that this process will not derail action on february 2 from occurring and that's just for some future meeting of the historic resources commission. we don't know when. i will -- once the historian in sacramento receives the city's official comment and yours, i'll work with her and i'm just hoping we can get this acted on february 2 and not delayed for some indeterminant amount of time. on the comments the staff made, the social welfare programmes of the ymca are mentioned in the nomination. in my judgment, after doing the research, the education association of the building was more important. so it got a lot more emphasis. similarly, the nomination does not suggest that the building is eligible under criterion three as the work of a mast sore that's why there waunlts lot of emphasis on the macdougall process. the copy ed iting and moving the social history, it went in to the state originally. organized the way the planning department is suggesting. the staff historian in sacramento said move all the social history to the end. so, there you go. two reviewers, two viewpoints. i personally agree with the planning department staff but you work with a reviewer you are working with. i would be a little bit concerned about removing the statement that it's significant as a building type, an early 20th century community building. it had it, as we showed here, a lot of different problematic components that supported its mission and were expressed in a certain architectural style and i think it's significant for that. so, i -- i just suggest consideration that. but thank you very much for allowing me to present it to you. >> thank you, mr. knapp. one final question. i'm not sure if you commented on this item revising the social history or reviewing section eight, which includes relevant information, the founding of the ymca >> that was the thing -- the way the planner and i both saw it eye-to-eye. the historian in sacramento said move all that stuff to the end, which i did and then the planner didn't even get the photos, by the way. so the communication here is not seamless so she didn't know that the order you see it in was what the historian in sacramento judged best. >> ok. thank you. >> are there any questions for mr. knapp or for staff? that the time, we'll take public comment at this time. any member of the public have any comments? seeing none -- >> actually, i do have a question. >> ok, commissioner pearlman. >> that last point that mr. knapp made about whether it should go in as a community building or not, can you exmine why you think it should'nt? >> because by suggesting that it was a community building type that it was relevant to the organization -- the structure of what the -- or to meet the needs of the ymca. but not a -- or wasn't stated in the nomination that this was a new building type that generated other buildings, copying its style or between a new hospital building, that there is a new problematic anxietier of a building that becomes a commonly used style. that wasn't explained clearly in the nomination. >> so, i'm still not understanding. is the term "community building" implying that you -- that you think or that the nomination would imply that community building is a new building type? >> yes, that's what -- yes. that's it implies. yes. >> and so can i ask mr. knapp a question? would you come up for a second? so, could you respond to that? because you're thinking that it should be in there as a community building. s >> the nomination traces earlier, san francisco ymca as different facilities. and the description says what facility's in it is how they're laid out and this one was much larger than the previous ones and had more different facilities. so, i feel the nomination makes a case that this building has significance for not only its size but the number of different programmatic rooms and facilities. >> but do you characterize it as an evolution of this building type? >> it wasn't the first time anyone -- >> right. >> combined these things. but -- >> this is a type that existed, the ymca hadle previous buildings. and so this is just a continue wall streeting of a specific type. >> it's a continue -- continuation of a period in which the ymca is an organization not only here but around the country and in other countries was growing and building larger buildings that could do more. >> ok. >> and this is an example of that. >> i guess what i'm driving at is, you know, is the community building already a type? it's not a type. ok. this seems confusion because it seems like if there were previous ymcas and there were community buildings that had programmatic things like this one, it would be part of those kind of buildings. >> the difference is the department is suggesting that the building is locally significant under example of renaissance-style architecture. but the way the statement significance is worded, it's significant under criterion c in architecture because it embodies the distinctive characteristics of an early 20th century building. it's not stating wlitz's like because of its architecture or because that it's this community building type. that is the difference. >> ok. why can't it be both? >> it could potential little be both. -- it could potentially be both, but it is not stating as it's viable and eligible example of a early 20th century community building. >> right. could that be added? the renaissance revival -- >> that's faced later. that's why i'm saying the recommendations for copy editing, it's not stated clearly up front that it is a example of renaissance reviral-style building. it's discussed later in that style in the community building details is not discussed at length later. so it could -- >> thank you, joe. [laughter] we've been watching all day long. thank you. [laughter] >> so yes. and it could -- if it is -- it could be revised also to say if this generated other ymcas following this, you know, this building plan. the nomination does mention the ymca. the first one that had elements of the same -- you know, trying to have public spaces, public and private spaces, to meet a variety of needs and programmes and then this followed that example. but that not that it generated, you know, this is a building type that became building wide and would be a good detail to add if that was the case. but this is one of models for community buildings. >> got it. >> ate really innovative design of a community building? because criterion a addresses the social programme and the social history. so, it's kind of like saying -- >> thank you. gave some clarity. >> commissioner? >> i swouz thrilled to see the photos of the pediment because i'ves driven by that building so many times and thought there had to be something there. [laughter] i appreciated seeing that. >> thank you. >> commissioner hyland? >> i have some questions for staff and for mr. knapp. the point here is we're trying to get this approved in the february meeting. so, the question for staff is do you think without these changes it might jeopardize that? >> i don't think so. and i don't think what the recommendations require a great amount of work. >> that was my question for mr. knapp. these seemed to be minor edits potentially and can they be picked up in time to get -- >> i think we can all agree on the interpretation and the question is how quickly and how minimally it can address this because the point is well taken and bringing that distinction up within that one sentence, if that's sufficient, it seems like it's just a tweak to that. >> do you have a response? >> yeah. mr. knapp? >> the proof is in the pudding on timing. can we all do it in time and get it on the agenda? i'm happy to work with it. i don't know, you are out workload. i don't know the workload of the historian. i don't know how many days ahead she has to have it final. so that would be my only concern. >> mr. knapp, i'm sorry. tim frye, department staff. if i could interrupt for a second. i don't believe this would feel to come before the commission again. so, that may address your concern. i think what the commission would do is direct staff to make edits and send a positive resolution to the state commission. >> at the state level, you may want to make the tweaks. >> commissioner johnck? >> i'd like the get this right. thinking about what mr. churney said about the coit tower. [laughter] and i think if all of this is a tweak and the staff can get it done. i mean, i'm just -- >> mr. knapp would be doing it and staff would be reviewing it. correct. ok. >> the something usually the commissions have to get out the agenda with the staff report, well it's probably 10 or 15 days ahead of february 2. so -- >> 16 days from now. >> and that is only 16 days from now. so, i'm wondering -- that is what i'm wondering about. i do think that we should get this right and if it is just a tweak they can get it. that would be getting to it staff and check on when their deadline is. today. >> and ms. mcmillan? >> we just discussed this is the version thaft state has and i'm happy to work with mr. knapp to address these edits and contact the state as well and how this works with their process and how it is -- to fit within their timeline so it stays on track to go ahead in early february. >> commissioner matsuda. >> i'm interested in making sure we get this right and i thoroughly agree with the staff recommendation and the social welfare programmes and because this particular place, so many very positive things have happened within various communities and i don't see that clearly reflected. i don't think it would be that hard to collect data and even to bullet point all the various xhunltzs that have benefited from this building being there. i was a recipient of being a beneficiary of using their gym when i was in law school. i know that there are many communities, specific communities that have specific place to help them heal and help them empower themselves and move on to expand to other bigger and better things. the social welfare, the social history of this is clearly missing and it is really important, particularly until today's world. >> those programmes were offered at the y, this is at the central branch, but if the focus was more on education, then it should -- the social history, social welfare programmes should be expanded. but if they're greater pramenting was devoted to education, then that should be explain add little more clearly in the nomination as well to make it clear why, in the nomination, the focus was more on education than social welfare was of its link to golden gate university. that is very clear. >> yeah. but fast forward to all the things that happened post world war ii as well. there's many communitis that benefited and continue to benefit. >> yeah. if it's -- it may be a simple fix like bullet points, stating the number of programmes and there's already a good bit of information in the nomination, just expanding that a little bit further. >> right. we could rely on this information, you know, for nominations at other levels and other historic context statements could use this information. >> right. >> thank you. commissioner pearlman. >> can i ask about the need for speed. we're talking about cramming a lot of information and deadlines and up to the 16 days from now is friday, february 2. so is there another hearing within a short period of time, because like we're saying, i'd hate to have it almost done and then something happens because it's almost done as opposed to waiting a months or two. so, mr. frye? >> commissioners, i was going to reframe what our thinking of the process would be moving forward is if this commission -- because this commission has passed resolutions in favour of a national register nomination with the condition that certain edits be tidied up before the state hears the item. you could do that, in this case, and your recommendation is still advice to the state commission if they decide to agree with it or disagree wit, that is their discretion. i think what ms. mcmillan and mr. knapp have said is they're willing to work together quickly to address these edits so that way when mr. knapp is at the state commission can say he's addressed this commission's concerns. i think that is still an appropriate approach. if you don't, i mean, we're certainly open to other options. >> it's fine. you know, i heard a number of people, including maybe the director of the ymc, or mr. knapp said something that the ymca, you know, i feel this kind of vibration about gotta get done, gotta get done. >> the tnbc -- >> yeah. ymca. mr. faulk, i'm sorry. i'm just wondering is there some reason that, you know, if there is another hearing on march 2, can it just be moved one month. we postpone thing all the time here. i'm just wondering if there is something about this particular date, mr. knapp? you know something about this? >> maybe i didn't explain it before. they meet four times a year only. and in the hopper of nominations, the staff in sacramento have approved, they can't hear them all at one hearing and there is this jockeying. so my concern is not only could we get bumped three months, then we could be competing with other people who are better at lobbying than we are and find ourselves bumped six months. that is my concern. >> ok. i appreciate that. thank you. that's helpful. thank you. is >> commissioners -- >> oh, ok. [laughter] i'll move that we -- i'll move the staff recommendation that we do the edits, that we explained here and described today. and that mr. knapp work with our staff to support our recommendation for nomination to the national register [inaudible]. >> thank you. commissioner hyland? >> i just want to understand mr. frye and ms. mcmillan is -- can we commit to working with mr. knapp to get the edits done so it doesn't get booted off of this -- >> right. it would have to go immediately because they requested 15 days before their hearing. we would get the letter right away and it would say that we're recommending approval with these revisions. i guess the question is, can the revisions be made in the time and -- >> that means hspc staff would want to see the revisions before they made their own recommendations. >> correct. once we have the resolution number, we'll forward remail the resolutions to the state, o.h.p. and then we'll just continue to work with mr. knapp. if he needs ours tansing, great. if not, we're happy to just work dlektsly with the state office to let them know that, you know, we're working in earnest with the consultant to address all the concerns or edits in the document. >> yeah. i mean, i guess the question is, we're saying our recommendation is conditional. but could we have it be less qualified? >> we recommend approval and we recommend these revisions but we're not subjecting our recommendation to the revisions. >> thank you. >> commissioner hyland, did you have another comment? >> a question. just trying to figure out how to tweak the motion so that we can offer our strong support to the nomination. because ultimately, we support the nominations. so this is really an ed iting function that needs to happen. and i don't want it to hang up the -- i mean, we'll find something in another two months that we wish we had caught. so, i'm happy to support -- i don't know how to phrase it. >> how to change it. yeah. >> how to frame it. >> is the motion a resolution to support the nomination with -- with revisions as suggested by staff? >> i believe that is the motion. >> that is the current motion. >> currently it says we hereby support the nomination subject to the revisions consisting of and then there are these six items. sick move that. -- >> so i move that. >> i move that. >> i second that. >> and let's hope for the best. >> there's nothing further, commissioners, shall i call to question? >> yes. >> there is a motion and seconded, commissioners, to adopt a resolution in support of the nomination subject to the revisions recommended by staff. on that motion -- [roll call] so move. that motion passes unanimously. >> best of luck. [laughter] >> thank you. >> commissioners, that will place us on items 13a, b and c. 1*6 63 mission street, 4073 4th street, 4025 gerald avenue and 2120 chestnut street. these are all legacy business applications. >> hello, commissioners. preservation staff. if i could have the presentation up on the screen, that would be great. so we have four application for your consideration today. and right off the bat i did want to say i did make a mistake and not notifying the applicants until yesterday of the hearing. so, i'm not sure how many applicants were able to make nit such short notice. i'm correcting my procedures. that will not happen again. i apologize. i wanted to start off by just running through each of the applications and i'll give our recommendations for maybe modifications and then i'll turn it over to any of the applicants for their additional comments. >> this is a nonprofit organization located on the east side of mission street between plum and 12th streets on the northern edge of the mission district. the organization was founded in 1983 and officially incorporated in 1989 so it is 35 years old. alrp was initially formed as bay area lawyers for individual freedom. the founders were responding to the deaths of many gay men from complications of aids. their original intent was to help these dying men draft legal documents such as wills and durable powers of attorney in order to help them die with dignity and fulfill their wishes about health care and disposition of assets. alrp has a staff of 10 attorneys and 700 volunteers that offer direct legal representation and personalized attorney-clients referrals and more than 2100 cases per year. they help people with h.i.v. keep their housing, maintain their financial stability, get and keep access to health care, fight discrimination in the workplace and address immigration issues that keep them from becoming fully integrated into society. through their work, especially their housing work, they have helped preserve the character and identity of many neighbourhoods and community within the city. alrp have contributed to the history and identity of the hiv-aids and lgbt communities and all neighbourhoods of san francisco by serving as a source of legal assistance and an advocate, particularly in the areas of health care immigration, insurance and housing. alrp is committed to maintaining the traditions that define the organization, including relying heavily on attorneys to volunteer their time to serve their clients. taking on cases in all areas of civil law and last providing all services by alrp staff as free and providing low-cost services by volunteers. this is a slightly unusual application in that staff is not recommending any physical features to be part of the nomination. other than the location of the office. and staff is recommending fully support of its nomination. so that brings us to a full-line bakery located on the south side of 24th street between castro and the valley neighbourhood. it was founded 29 years ago in 1989 but it is one of several bakeries located at the 24th street site since 1923. so, this is continuing the tradition of nearly 89 years, i believe, of bakeries that the site. bakeries owned by a husband and wife, michael and mary gaffeson. they make everything daily in the store and they sell out almost every day. michael handles the culinary operations and mary handles finance and business administration. and the couple opened a second bakery at 28 west portal avenue in march of 2017. although the business has only operated for 29 years, not quite making the 30-year cutoff date, staff does believe that the business significantly contributes to the neighbourhood's history and identity by continuing the long tradition of bakeries that the location. also the business could face significant risk of displacement if not included on the registry due to upcoming rent negotiations. noe valley is committed to maintaining the physical features and traditions that define the bakery and the 1902 building located on 24th street, including the full line of artisan baked goods and the building's facade and foot print. staff is recommending support of the application, but we would like to add some additional features. and to the description of the business, including business and the store front components at 4073 24th street location, including large glass panels, the transom windows, bracket sign and awning feature. we'd also like to include an intangible feature being the seasonal storefront displays of goods w. that, i'm going to move on to the next applicant. and that is the san francisco wholesale produce market. the applicant is actually the san francisco market corporation, which manages the wholesale produce market. their office is located on the south side of gerald avenue in the bay view neighbourhood. the corporation manages the wholesale produce market, which is located on the site. the managing entity was created in 1963 and reorganized in 2013 as a nonprofit. the business has been in place for 55 years. in the 1960s, the merchants were moved from what's now the area near the embarcadero centre to its current location, prieveyously the wholesale market had operated at the site of the embarcadero centre since the 18 70s. the produce market currently occupies 300,000 square feet of space and 10 buildings and housing over 30s produce wholesalers and distributors. the approximately kanltz is commited to defining the large warehouses and staff is recommending supporting the application and adding several features to the description of the business. we would like to include the large open space which is the marshalling yard where the truckses and distributing come in. we'd like to include the wide variety of vendors as a feature. we'd also like to include the nighttime operations of the wholesale market, which is key to supporting restaurants in the city. and we'd also like to include the fact that affordable spaces are offered that incubate new and small vendors. and our last applicant is luca delicatessen, an italian deli located on chestnut street in the marina district. it was founded in 1929 and it has been continuously operated by the bosco family for the last 89 years. the owners of luca delicatessen sold and do sell many imported italian and french shelf items, they created a kitchen at the rear of the store to cook and produce italian food and they purchased a machine, built in italy, to make ravioli and fresh pasta. in the 1980's, the third generation of boscos began working at luca delicatessen and eventually took over management at the store. luca delicatessen has contributed to the identity of the marina district and to san francisco's culinary heritage by providing northern italian food and recipes, originate ining the area of luca. it also helped develop an italian community in san francisco. luca delicatessen is committed to maintaining the physical features and traditions that define the italian deli, which include the luca sign, the traditional green, red and white striped awning, the 1920s black storefront tiles t original storefront windows, original store shelving, the ravioli machine, bayfront window displays, the hanging cured meats, the recipes for ravioli, bolognese sauce, minestrone soup, fritatta and potato salad. staff is not recommending any additional features and we fully support the application. so i'd like to turn it over to any applicants that are present today. >> would any of the applicants like to come forward to make a comment? you have three minutes and there will be a warning bell and 30 seconds before your time is up. >> sure. good afternoon, commissioners. my name is bill hirsch. i serve as the executive director of the aids legal referral panel. we provide legal services to people living with h.i.v. and aids and have been doing that for 35 years. i believe we are the kind of long-standing community-serving business that was contemplated by the registry. like our sister agency's open hand, we have served thousands of people living with h.i.v. and aids and importantly we mobilize hundreds of volunteers to respond to the epidemic. each year we leverage over $1 million in donated legal services through our volunteer attorneys. so, i'm happy to answer any questions that you might have. i want to thank the staff who will be helpful with the application process. thank you. >> thank you. >> hi. i'm janna, the programme manager for the san francisco wholesale produce market. the general manager sends his regrets. he wasn't able to come today. he is actually meeting with fundraisers to help us move into the future. we have a very colourful and important history. and we also have a very bright future ahead of us. but one of the things we're hoping with the legacy business designation will help us move into the future, raise our vizability and help us raise funds we need to maintain and upgrade and bring our produce businesses into the future so that we can continue to have a strong food economy here in the bay area. so, one of the things i wanted to just update, we've recently done an employee count of all the -- we have 30-plus businesses at the market. we have now over 850 employees working there. our small office is very tiny, but the collection of the businesses that we support. so, essentially we're at platform for critical access and scale for these types of businesses, providing the food infrastructure that they need to grow and not only are 31 businesses but all the food businesses and the wonderful bay area restaurants that we have, the catering businesses. aument interesting businesss that are cropping up or growing now in san francisco. so, our produce businesses supply them with fresh, local produce. a lot of it from california or even local, but some of it from outside when we can't get it. i just wanted to share one story with you, if i have the time. do i -- well, this is a photograph of stanley kariya and his father and grandfather started stanley's produce. in the 1940s when the businesses were clustered down in the embarcadero area. when they moved the businesses in 1963 to the bay view, his family moved as well. and stanley started in high school working for his father and grandfather, delivering produce. he was telling this story this morning. waking up at like 3:30, 4:00 in the morning, doing a delivery and then going to high school. and he actually bought his first condo -- [bell ringing] when he was 24 years old, using the money that he made. and now he runs the business. so he's a third generation and it is just one example of a business that we've helped to incubate and grow at the market. we have several businesses that have multigenerational connections. and we hope to see that into the future. so thank you for your support today of our designation. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >>, there any other additional speakers who would like to comment on these items? . >> good afternoon. my name is michael gaston. i open noe valley bakery on 24th street along with my wife and business partner, mary. we've been at that location since 1994. i greatly appreciate your consideration for the designation that we're seeking. especially given the current climate of business climate and what's going on the city and how difficult it's becoming for small family-owned businesses to compete with larger corporations to stay put for generations and to continue the same type of business in the same locations through the decades. we've carried on the tradition of supporting our neighbourhood through schools and fund raising efforts, bake sales and don't underestimate your local school bake sale. [laughter] we can raise quite a biting of money with lots of donation of product through the years. so, i greatly appreciate the efforts of the staff to get this in front of you and whatever consideration you want to give this. thank you. >> thank you! are there any other additional speakers for this item? any other public comment for this item? seeing and hearing none, we'll close public comment. commissioner johnck? >> i am -- what's resonating for me today, listening to these stories, is kind of the point-counterpoint because on the threat. so we focused the programme, legacy programme often associated at this point with threats and how we can counteract those. but i love the market discussion about how the programme will help elevate and move forward with a new vision for the future with growth and that kind of thing. rather than just a threat. i like that. and i'm good hear from the noe valley, too. if i had known about that, i would haven't spent all the time i did making cookies for the mckinley school bake sale! [laughter] 40 years ago! so, anyway, i support all businesses. it's wonderful. >> thank you, commissioner pearlman. >> i think this is an interesting day because of the breadth of the kind of businesses that we're focused on today. we've been through 120 or so businesss that we heard about over the last year or so. and the breadth of the legal referral pan knoll a produce market and a bakery, i just missed one -- which one? oh, the delicatessen, luca. we have two businesss that have the many generations, the market and luca's delicatessen. and that's exactly what the programme is about. so, we're very, you know, proud and honoured that you guys are part of our city and that we do the tiny little bit of voting, but you are the guys that do all the work and create the spirit of san francisco. thank you very much. and i heartily endorse this, of course. >> commissioner hyland? >> i support it, too. i want to thank all of the businesses who came out on such short notice, but i would like to ask something a little out of the ordinary. since we -- for us, for commissioner matsuda and myself, we really like to hear the public comment and trying to figure out how to capture it. so, to know that it was short notice, i would move if it hasn't been moved to approve these and move them forward. i would ask to re-calendar this and have it come back before us again so that if there's other people who want to come out and share their story we can capture that. so i don't know how that aligns with our process. >> did you have them bring it to the c.h.a. maybe? you can invaoets. this. i don't know if we want to calendar it in because we're making the recommendation forward and it is in the middle of the day but you could invite them to the c.h.a. and tell them that their public comment could be -- >> if we could impose on staff to send out an invitation to those businesses that may not have been able to attend today and they can speak under general public comment at the cultural heritage assets committee. >> and then they know come to the beginning of the hearing and speak. otherwise if we calendar it, they have been waiting here for two hours or more. >> it's a continuety of the oral history that we may be missing. i just don't want to -- >> right. right. >> we have an important businesses here that weren't able to come today. >> yeah. >> i think that would be great. >> ok. do we have a motion? >> you motioned and i seconded it. >> who made the motion? >> all four. >> commissioner hyland. >> a motion, a second and separate request for staff, not related to the motion, to have -- >> right. >> maybe i can clarify that. what we're asking for. this is actually for the businesses that didn't come today, we have a cultural heritage assets committee that's the committee of this commission and we're trying to get all the public comment for businesses to speak about their history. we're trying to record that. and so we're going to send out an invitation to all the businesses if they're willing to come to speak at a future hearing of the c.h.a. it is not an obligation, we're just trying to record as much of this comment as possible. >> record and promote. >> yes. [laughter] yes. yes, you can go to the microphone. >> can comments be submitted in writing because our merchants are sleeping in the middle of the day. [laughter] >> absolutely. >> you know, they work midnight to 10:00 a.m. or whatever. so that is part of the challenge of the market and visibility as you saw the picture we submitted was the nighttime one. a lot of people don't know we're there because we operate at nighttime. >> yeah. that would be probably even better to have, you know, if some of your, you know, the merchants could submit a letter to talk action their own history. >> or video. >> that's a lot. maybe for our merchants are not super tech savvy for the most part. >> just what they sell and how long they'ves been there. and the pride that ignatieff in selling their merchandise. i know it's hard for bakers, too, because i know they get up pretty early. [laughter] >> right. right. i also forgot to say i'm going to leave my card. if any of you want to come and tour the market. we'd love to show you the market. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> ok. so i think we had a motion and a second. >> indeed we do. there is a motion that has been seconded to approve -- to adopt recommendations for approval as modified by staff for each of these legacy business registry approximately kanlzes. on that motion -- [roll call] that motion passes unanimously. >> thank you for all for coming. >> that places us on item 14 for case 2014-00127dva, this is the informational presentation. >> could we take a five-minute? >> i think that is request for a brief break. a brief break. five to eight, 10 mince. >> 3:00 on that -- >> yes. >> ok. >> thank you. >> we'll take brief br >> we're ready to reopen the hearing. >> very good. welcome back to the san francisco historic preservation commission regular hearing for wednesday, january 17, 2018. i will only remind members of the public to please silence your mobile devices that may sound off during these proceedings. commissioners, we left off on item 14 for 2014-001272dva, pier 70 mixed use project. >> good afternoon. michael christiansen, department staff, presenting. this is phase 1 submittal. the board of supervisors approved the amendment related to the project in september, 2017. as related to the special use district for the project, the board of supervisors approved hearings to the historic commission and planning commission. these are required for the approval of the port of san francisco. each highlights the scope of work undertaken by the developer relative to the disposition and development agreement that was entered into by the board of supervisors. the phase one submittal includes the rehabilitation of building 2 and 12, infrastructure, construction of 3.4 acres of new park and open space. and preparation of the development paths for new residential and commercial development. this concludes my presentation. i'm available for any questions, along with david book from the port. >> good afternoon, commissioners, and president wolfram. happy 2018. may 2018 be a prove in the right direction for everybody. sorry. >> i think we fixed that mike earlier. [laughter] >> probably was fixed lower. >> how much time do you need for your presentation? 5 minutes? >> i was thinking 15, 20. kidding. >> 5 is okay? >> we'll see. i haven't timed myself on this. >> good practice. [laughter] >> it is. so what i would like to do is, the phases, as was described to you all in the planning commission and port commission and board of supervisors is basically unchanged. i would like to walk you through some of the principles of the phasing and what it looks like in physical form. i will leave out things like transportation and public benefits, but we can talk about that to the extent that you have questions. so there's our -- as you well know, there's already activity happening at pier 70. the port is starting to build crane co park. orton is rehabilitating the historic buildings. and american industrial center continues to evolve and do the great things they've been doing. for us connecting to the adjacent uses is an obvious thing to do, not to start away from that with a big gap in between. so you can see here the boundaries of our first phase. and we have two of the three historic buildings, about 80% of the square footage will be rehabilitated in the first phase. that's building 12 on the left here and building 2. one of the things that we need to do to make new buildings and rehab of existing buildings happen is to build entirely new infrastructure, so that means bringing 22nd street down from dog patch into the site. 20th street exists today, but it needs entirely new utilities. and maryland street, the primary north-south connector, complete that backbone utility loop. so here's a diagram that shows you, it's basically everything you need in a city street that we have to build from scratch, the wet and dry utilities, as well as street surfacing and street-scape improvements. and so maryland street, which is the north-south connector i referred to, this is a rendering of maryland street. you see building 12 on the left and a new residential building, the greenish building, in the center there. maryland street is that shared public way, so it's -- there is vehicular access, but it's a raised street, so it's a flush curb condition, that allows for it to be more pedestrian-friendly and being able to be closed during events. so at the -- it was really important for us to start with the majority of the historic buildings. building 12 is where we've envisioned, the makers market hall. so 60,000 to 100,000 square feet of pdr in a public market experience, visitor oriented retail storefronts and people making the goods in the back. so ceramics is a good example, though their footprint is bigger than what we'll have. we would have a series of smaller users on the first and second floor. we're raising the building. and then building 2, which is a concrete building, actually lays out quite well for residential. so that will be something that we'll also do in the first phase. one of the changes -- was it 5 minutes when i started or 3? >> 5. >> really? >> you ccan go on. don't worry. >> there's a shed structure adjacent to building 12 called building 15. we're looking at retaining the structural beams and having new 22nd street run underneath it. at this point, because we're raising the grade of all the streets on the site, that looks like it will require disassembling it and reassembling it. there was a scenario that was looked at where it was literally putting it on roller skates and rolling it away, but it doesn't seem to be the most efficient. we are including a mix of uses for all of the phases, including phase 1, which we think is a key piece of making a coherent, holistic district. so you can see here the blue is new commercial office, a, as a new construction building. and the red, building 12. the oranges are residential, two rental buildings and two for-sale condo buildings. there is an additional condo building on the upper left, which is not something we will build, but the port will sell that parcel for condo development. so there's quite a good mix here of places to live and work and the amenities that would support that. >> one second. can you go back to that? the yellow building above building 12, is that building 2? >> correct. >> is that residential? >> do we have paper handouts? sorry. i thought we had given those. >> it's okay. >> so 2 is the existing concrete structure. >> is the yellow residential? >> yellow and the copped -- condo is orange, gold and orange. >> okay. our screens don't work very well. >> i apologize. >> at the planning commission, the screens are not very good. >> yeah. time for an infrastructure investment. >> much better. >> there we go. >> oh, pier 70. [laughter] >> apologies. >> don't worry. all right. >> so we're on the land use program slide. >> okay. >> and then in addition to the retail and the place making component in the buildings, we're building about half the parks in the first phase. earlier versions of the plan, we didn't have any of the waterfront park built in phase one, but we've been working with the port to find a financially feasible way to do that. it's a great amenity. and the community that's really supported and embraced the project has done so for -- to a large degree because of the future access to the waterfront that they've not had access to for quite a while. >> that park will be in phase one? >> exactly, exactly. i think this is a rendering we've shown before. this is the walkway between building 2 and building 12. and you see that market hall on the right and the beginnings of that plot, first a plaza, an urban plaza, that transitions into the slipways commons park out to the waterfront. at the waterfront park -- the buildings that you see in the rendering won't be done in the first phase, with you this portion is the spillways commons portion of the waterfront. so i'm going to stop

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